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    the telefree scam sponsored a soccer team. he is finally admitting flexkom/flexcom/flexscam is a scam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    It is, however, a perfect example of how fraud operators and pimps twist words to suit their needs.
    In watscos' case, the market is the USA where the vast majority of potential victims new members will see English soccer and immediately assume Premier League and see "association football" and presume it refers to the governing body of UK soccer, the "Football Association" which runs the internationally known FA Cup.
    Just took a look at http://www.bristolrovers.co.uk/ I for one cannot find any trace of FlexKom on their website.
    If it is on there it's not at all prominent. Is anybody else able to find anything?

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    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Deborah Brolley says:
    February 2, 2014 at 3:29 am
    In the U.S. it is 1 Global Team Member, for evey 10,000 human. Each state manager and regional director knows exact number peers state and they break it down. So glad they just hired Kevin Thompson as another big hitter attorney, to work with Grimes and Reese. Glad Visa, and Paysolution did background check, and U.S. Market is getting ready to have some areas lunch next week, after each Global Team member gets certified next next week. Best kept secret!

    - See more at: Is FlexKom a Scam? » Lazy Man and Money


    I have previously posted this quote by Deborah Brolley aka Flexkom Corporate Headhunter according to her past LinkedIn description. Thought in light of new developments, it was worth posting again. Mr. Grimes in big trouble for aiding in the Zeek Rewards PONZI, THAT's PONZI Scheme as well as the TelexFree Ponzi. Read official court doc below.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...E3MzNiM2E2Nzk0

    P.S. Don't forget Brolley pimped Visalus too. I posted earlier the class action lawsuit filed by former affiliates getting scammed. Brolley must not be the sharpest knife in the drawer OR she knows EXACTLY what this business is about. Judging by the "Flexkom CORPORATE Headhunter" self title, I'd say the latter.
    Last edited by Char; 08-07-2014 at 08:04 AM.

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    In the U.S. it is 1 Global Team Member, for evey 10,000 human.
    no way there's ever been 30-40,000 or so 'team members' in US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    Deborah Brolley says:
    February 2, 2014 at 3:29 am
    In the U.S. it is 1 Global Team Member, for evey 10,000 human. Each state manager and regional director knows exact number peers state and they break it down. So glad they just hired Kevin Thompson as another big hitter attorney, to work with Grimes and Reese. Glad Visa, and Paysolution did background check, and U.S. Market is getting ready to have some areas lunch next week, after each Global Team member gets certified next next week. Best kept secret!

    - See more at: Is FlexKom a Scam? » Lazy Man and Money


    I have previously posted this quote by Deborah Brolley aka Flexkom Corporate Headhunter according to her past LinkedIn description. Thought in light of new developments, it was worth posting again. Mr. Grimes in big trouble for aiding in the Zeek Rewards PONZI, THAT's PONZI Scheme as well as the TelexFree Ponzi. Read official court doc below.

    https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&p...E3MzNiM2E2Nzk0

    P.S. Don't forget Brolley pimped Visalus too. I posted earlier the class action lawsuit filed by former affiliates getting scammed. Brolley must not be the sharpest knife in the drawer OR she knows EXACTLY what this business is about. Judging by the "Flexkom CORPORATE Headhunter" self title, I'd say the latter.
    I'm sure they only reason why they hired Kevin Thompson was because Kevin Grimes is in deep doo-doo with the Receiver in Zeek. One has to wonder if they will terminate their relationship with Kevin Grimes and his law firm hoping the feds won't look into them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I'm sure they only reason why they hired Kevin Thompson was because Kevin Grimes is in deep doo-doo with the Receiver in Zeek. One has to wonder if they will terminate their relationship with Kevin Grimes and his law firm hoping the feds won't look into them.
    This was 2 months before telexfree got jammed. I'm wouldn't be surprised the government has started some research already. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    Deborah Brolley ... OR she knows EXACTLY what this business is about. Judging by the "Flexkom CORPORATE Headhunter" self title, I'd say the latter.
    If you knew exactly what the business was about, why you would put it on a LinkedIn page?
    That's got to end badly eventually, or is the thinking that FlexKom would continue to get away with it from here on out, and indeed become a brand worthy of respect such that you'd want to have it on your CV ?
    Or maybe the LinkedIn account is seen as a throwaway one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by watsco View Post
    Cant be done where I am since we have no stores yet. But in a week or so I will post it for you to see. We just got the green light as seen on the video above with Volker all 52 states are go in USA as of today.
    Any news on the videos you will be posting of all the terminals you have sold in your area?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    There are only 50 states in the US... ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    There are only 50 states in the US... ;)
    51 if you include the Terrible State that the Flexkom, Flexcom, Flexcon is in.


    Still waiting to see the video of all the terminals you have sold in the past week or so Watsco.

    I wonder how many have you sold? 10? 20? 1? 0?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Another Facebook page posting some interesting info:

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...fref=hovercard

    Flexkom Flexcom Light Here the translation from Turkey of the article above: 1. Ahmet İNEKÇİ, Flexkom rep in Turkey, committed suicide because of all the debt laid upon him by Flexkom, has survived with a life-threatening injury 2. Turkish courts issued an arrest warrant against Cengiz Ehliz 3. Erol PAKEL, first person on left - Flexkom PT in Turkey, deeds/possesions and bank accounts were seized. "Cengiz fleeing to testify for fraud case..
    But Erol PAKEL convicted of fraud in Turkey....
    Erol PAKEL %25 owner Flexkom company... ( Old Flexkom )"
    19 August at 17:13 · Edited

    Flexkom Flexcom Light Quoting from Turkey: Davut Türkoğlu is being sought for doing his military service in Turkey, he DESERTED.
    19 August at 23:50

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeSelby View Post
    Bristol Rovers have never played in the Premier league, in fact last season they dropped out of the league which means they are now outside of the top 92 professional clubs in England and Wales.
    Reminds me of a different guy, who claims to 10 times "World Series player and coach"... Except he didn't say it's American Amateur Baseball Congress World Series (Huh?) (read the comments)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    There are only 50 states in the US... ;)
    Just to be pedantic, technically there are only 46 states in the US. The remaining 4 are commonwealths. ;)
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    Quote Originally Posted by watsco View Post
    Cant be done where I am since we have no stores yet. But in a week or so I will post it for you to see. We just got the green light as seen on the video above with Volker all 52 states are go in USA as of today.

    Still waiting for the video of the many FlexKom terminals you have sold in the last couple of weeks or so Watsco.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    WOW!!! Here is absolute proof of what a lot of us have been saying about Flexkom too. As I have said before, I really don't believe Watsco understands that Flexkom is basically just a pyramid scheme and the regulators will eventually shut them down, in my opinion.

    Bottom-line: If you are going to promote an MLM program, it better be PRODUCT BASED with actual RETAIL CUSTOMERS and not just internal consumption. This includes coded bonus deals, license programs, $1,200 Buy-In Deals, Money Games, most binary programs, matrix spillover deals etc. Yes, times....they are changing.

    Here is the link and information. I WONDER WHAT WILL HAPPEN WHEN THE MERCHANTS WHO ARE LISTED ON THEIR SITE READ THIS HEADLINE? Ask Tiger Woods what happens when the HEADLINES turn negative. What happened to his sponsors?


    http://www.realscam.com/f9/lyoness-2855/

    Lyoness, cashback loyalty card operator, taken to court by ACCC over allegedly operating a pyramid scheme

    THE consumer watchdog is taking a popular loyalty card company to court for allegedly operating a pyramid selling scheme.

    Lyoness, an Austrian company founded in 2003, operates a ‘cashback’ scheme which provides rebates to members who shop through a Lyoness portal, use its vouchers or present their Lyoness card at participating retailers.

    A number of large brands participate in the Lyoness Loyalty Program, including Vintage Cellars, Overland, Oakley, Microsoft, First Choice Liquor, Liquorland, DealsDirect, Tyrepower and Barbeques Galore.

    According to the Australian Competition and Consumer Commission, although Lyoness has been investigated by regulators in other countries, this is the first court action taken against the company alleging that the Lyoness Loyalty Program constitutes a pyramid scheme.

    The ACCC also claims the conduct by Lyoness breached laws against ‘referral selling’, where a consumer is induced to buy goods or services by the promise of a commission or rebate contingent on a later event.

    WHAT IS A PYRAMID SCHEME?

    A pyramid scheme involves existing participants gaining a financial or other benefit from recruiting new members into the scheme.

    New participants are in turn encouraged to join largely by the prospect that they will be entitled to benefits relating to the recruitment of further new participants.

    Pyramid schemes may offer products and services, but making money out of recruitment is their main aim. The only way for a member to recover money is to convince other people to join up.

    This is in contrast to multi-level marketing schemes such as Amway, in which people can earn money by selling genuine products to consumers and not from the recruiting process.

    ACCC chairman Rod Sims told news.com.au: “The old days of simple pyramid selling don’t exist anymore, understandably. They’re complex schemes. The judgement we make at a high level is whether your money essentially comes from signing up other people rather than selling something of substance.”

    The most recent pyramid scheme to be targeted by the ACCC was accommodation site Jutsen in 2011. In that case, the court determined while the site offered accommodation, the most important inducement was making money by encouraging others to join the scheme, who then had to pay a fee

    LYONESS IN THE FIRING LINE

    While cashback offers themselves are not prohibited by Australian Consumer Law, the ACCC alleges that the Lyoness scheme also offers commissions to members who recruit new members who make a down payment on future shopping.

    According to Mr Sims, Lyoness had around 50,000 members in Australia as of May this year. “Our concern was that this scheme is growing rapidly — by the nature of a pyramid it can,” he said.

    The ‘premium’ membership, under which members can participate in what the ACCC claims is the pyramid recruitment side of the scheme, costs $3000.

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    To all the Flexkom true believers who think the posters here are negative, jealous, and simply want you to fail. I suggest you read the banners broker thread - Start on page one then skip to page 640. http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...onzi-scam-897/ You will also recognize some of the same names who have been trying to warn you about Flexkom.

    Sadly, a Banners Broker affiliate committed suicide due to the collapse of BB. The friend who recruited him posted the story and you can only imagine how he must feel as he was the one who sucked in the suicide victim. I hope this doesn't turn into a double tragedy and the friend continues to spread the word on how these scams operate and can make some good out of it. THAT IS WHAT REALSCAM IS ATTEMPTING TO DO WITH ALL THE RESEARCH AND EXPERIENCE MANY POSTERS HAVE. So much evidence has been posted about the scam of Flexkom, and there are 647 pages of BB, yet people still believe!!


    Stop giving Flexkom your money, don't recruit and risk harm to others for personal gain, and try to get your money back now. Good luck trying though.

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    Some goodies over on the Facebook page Flexkom Flexcom Light. Here's just one below:
    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php...fref=hovercard



    Flexkom Flexcom Light
    6 September · Edited
    MAYHEM in the US Flexkomedy camp:

    A bonehead decision?

    Here is the astonishing time-line of this full-action week with US FlexKomedy and Next Level Team up-roar:

    Monday, Sept. 1, 2014: FKA Skinni Larry’s menacing email that the kissing bonus was cancelled ….

    Tuesday, Sept. 2, 2014: CM Bill Resides and State Manager of Alabama AJ Krause are known to have a fit and planned to quit FK – they finally had it with these guys in Munich … cancelling the kissing bonus was the last they wanted to take from these clowns anymore. The selfish sons of a gun were ONLY concerned about their reputation … because they had LIED to their followers … they were finally going to come out of the closet … they knew for a long time that FK is a …. HOAX … but for a good weekly payment they continued to play the game for their own gain … all the while they were looking for an alternative program to jump ship … to become the heroes that “rescue” all their sheep and merchants (except, everybody’s money was already in Cengiz’ fingers) … now they were going to take actions …

    Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2014: informed about the “Kissing Bonus Dilemma” was published … the Blog Talk Radio voices in the US stayed silent that morning, without warning …

    Thursday, Sept. 4, 2014: AJ Krause sends out his HELP-email, see picture … sounds like the end for FKA … don’t you think? Notice, where is Bill Resides in that email?

    Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday night Skinni Larry holds corporate calls with nobody on there to talk to, so he reads out loud the latest FK videos … as if nothing was wrong and just to fill the gap (even the latest videos would need to be redone – FK Germany and their technical gurus can’t get it straight!!!)

    When you thought FKA was ready to go down in fire …

    Friday, Sept. 5, 2014: SURPRISE - SURPRISE … Blog Talk USA is on again and Billy Resides is back in bed/sorry … business with FK. According to Billy, FK just made a bonehead decision to send out the email on Labor Day of all days … but everybody has made a bonehead decision in life, so what …

    What about the kissing bonus you might ask … so what?

    Now they are locking arms again! They are a strong family, some call it CULT! Together they are fighting the “flat world syndrome” for FK with
    • the honorable country manager of FKA Bill Resides and Dr. Josef Bird from Chattanooga TN,
    • SM of GA Eric Stinnett
    • Calling in for SM of FL George Kasprzyk the substitute George
    • RC in Atlanta GA area Mike Livingston,
    • RC in Orlando FL area Jason Marks,
    • Steffan Schumacher in TN
    • Steve Cobb covering southern area of Atlanta GA
    • Larry Holcomb – Skinni Larri’s right hand from Ringgold GA
    • Mark Mandela - Asker Sakinmaz’ promoter, Mark is overcoming obscurity
    • Alex Vuginshteyn - Ex-CEO US Volker’s mouth piece out of the cold Russia

    But where was SM AJ Krause on that sensational Blog Radio, his best friend RC Gary Elvis Britt, and AJ’s buddy realtor Jimmy Lyon from Mobile AL, and why did AJ send the email, see picture below? Did AJ pull the plug too early, does he have an egg on his face now?

    Why did the Richardson bro’s from VA lie about their resignation from FK?

    Why would Volker come next week as Ex-CEO of FKA, or is he coming?

    Bizarre, no dates and locations have been announced … days before the customs-banned Ex-CEO arrives to do the famous roadshow?

    Why would Skinni Larry not already promote the meetings with Volker or the hallucinary meeting in Las Vegas in October?

    Ludicrous X 10!
    Who could you believe? The honorable CM Slick Billy or the preacher/SM of Alabama AJ or the lunatics at FK? You must have dollar signs in multiple layers on your eyes not to see, the only goal of FK is to sell positions and terminals and creating chaos instead of a lasting successful business. Supporting the small business in our communities – nice try, who falls for that anymore?

    You might also ask, how did FK International pull it off this time to rope Billy back in? Did Billy sign the same pledge that the European CMs had to sign in the mountains of Austria, August 2014? Maybe they promised Billy now AJ’s weekly paycheck as well? Just thinkin’ …

    How much money did they promise Eric Stinnett who suddenly knows that Europe is exploding! I.e., besides 1 meeting in Italy there is nothing going on, not even new merchants … New Vision: They need to build power teams in Europe now to make $11,000 in 60 days … FB posts are repeated posts …

    Any intelligent person keeps their distance from such a demented comedy, like so many do, already. Who can afford to be associated with such a scam? This is not an international corporation, this is a gang of primitive networkers (exaggerating their past careers because they are so out there, they don’t expect us to check up on them) that have no idea how to run a business, none of them has a formal business education, we learned.

    Do YOUR homework.


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    Russell D. Longcore The Flexkom death watch continues unabated. How long before the European con men pull the plug on the US market? The cash flow into FK has to be anemic...and they have to be gushing red ink.
    6 September at 13:29 · 1

    Flexkom Flexcom Light Some people can't see through their $$ signs that they get paid and continue to bleed the un-expecting ...
    6 September at 13:34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Russell Longcore
    the only goal of FK is to sell positions and terminals and creating chaos instead of a lasting successful business. Supporting the small business in our communities – nice try, who falls for that anymore?
    HUH, I think I heard something similars somewheres sometimes back.

    I thought I read on one of the threads that Longcore has bailed on Beepxtra as well. http://www.realscam.com/f8/banners-b...226/#post75709


    Is he now linked to this crap? http://www.realscam.com/f9/paid2save...ney-game-3384/

    Damn Russell, we truly need all the help we can get fighting these insidious scams but I need a blackboard, EA, and push pins to keep up with all the hopping you do. Why not just come around to the fact that ALL these gimmicks be scams? It is like musical chairs except with money and time. Sooner or later the music will stop, and only the kid who's mom threw the party has a place to sit.
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    Are you saying Russell Longcore has ALREADY quit BeepXtra? I just checked his page and couldn't find it. Did he hope to leave yet another money game and hope nobody noticed? I see some of the ex-Flexkommers now promoting Dubli. Geez! Talk about jumping from the frying pan and into the fire!

    When are they going to learn? If your MLM is just moving money between friends with no focus on retail sales, it is probably an illegal pyramid scheme.

    Of course, there is no longer any question as to whether or not the Flexkom model is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLM Broken Model View Post
    I see some of the ex-Flexkommers now promoting Dubli.
    I was just wondering the other day if that turd of a scam was still going.

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    Dubli is NOT growing but that doesn't stop the Deal of the Day-type moneygamers from giving it a shot. Most of them are broke anyway. Why not take a shot at getting rich by "selling the dream" while their spouses end up "living a nightmare."

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    Is the same user still 'winning' all the auctions? lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by MLM Broken Model View Post
    Are you saying Russell Longcore has ALREADY quit BeepXtra? I just checked his page and couldn't find it. Did he hope to leave yet another money game and hope nobody noticed? I see some of the ex-Flexkommers now promoting Dubli. Geez! Talk about jumping from the frying pan and into the fire!

    When are they going to learn? If your MLM is just moving money between friends with no focus on retail sales, it is probably an illegal pyramid scheme.

    Of course, there is no longer any question as to whether or not the Flexkom model is broken.
    There is no probability about it. If 51% of your income does not come from retail sales in a MLM, it is an illegal pyramid scheme.
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    Eagle One -----> Are you saying that each distributor must maintain 51% of their income from retail sales, or the company?

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    This is crazy. 55 pages. Of speculation. No evidence. Just post after post after post... of what Bill said and what Jane said and what Mike wrote in a blog... Time well spent. :)
    Hey, how much money the US citizens lost in 2008? You remember, the banking scam? Did you raise your voice then? Did you?

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