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    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    Ow god, I had to laugh today. The big company like Ip-mart (that is a registered company) doesnt give any inssurence for registerd post that it arrives. So that why I choose for only dhl and TNT. If my customers want to take the risk on them, they can order it (and see proofs I ordered it)

    I did some research on you Fgold, not only you been banned of alot of forums (that we did already know), but you trust an other company who does just the same as us, since "you choose the product and we dropship it...". Ok, they are registered as company, but that gives you not a garanteed of anything in this world. Since a company can be bought for 200$ on the internet... wherever you want.
    Ask them to send something with registered air mail... and see if they guarantee it if it arrives... THEY WILL SAY NO. Since I asked it them.

    FGOLD STOP BEING A TROLL!

    Do not reply here untill you got REAL PROOFS. No ASSUMPTIONS. Proof me your NOT paid poster and you are blackmailing us. Since I make the assumption, because you never bought or come with a real proof... Maybe you even work for that company I talked about...

    You made the assumption about the free shipping? did I lie about it? Did you found any proof? Did you PM'ed me about the request to talk, I would show you my lightinthebox account... You didnt even asked FOR PROOF. You keep on bashing my website with your sick mind.

    I gave what you asked, I been open in my answers, I came and defend.
    Which company are you talking about??? There are ones who are real but others can be fake. Without knowing the name its impossible to know if they are real or not. I'm not supportting any company who does the same service. I opened this thread to expose lrapshop.com who claim to be a service to shop accepting payment methods like LibertyReserve and Alertpay(for ammounts bellow $20...)

    The truth is:

    1-There's no company and you're dealing with anonymous individuals
    2- They are not paying taxes and operating illegally...
    3- They do not offer buyers protection neither accept payment by paypal/moneybookers/Ccs
    4- One of them is an old shill monitor who were pimping many ponzis in the past...

    All the points above are enough to prove that this site is not REAL company but a REAL SCAM....
    BTW you're freely to think what you want. If you decide it isn't it's you own choice.

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Hmmmm Ok, what your definition of a scam?
    Definition of proof?

    I am just trying to help people out here. To call me a scam I need to first scam people. I sell chinese products, I do, they are not fake... they work. Other than that I opened up for brands since I found a dropshipper who can. So do you call dealextreme.com a scam too? They sell chinese products, THEY do not have stock, but they have direct contacts in shenzen with manufacters. You do not know how the world works.

    Whatever dude, I spoiled enough time on your blackmail post. I have orders to make at lightinthebox. Peace

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    btw, here is a thread people can complain.

    http://www.realscam.com/f16/www-lrap...-760/#post9462

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    Hmmmm Ok, what your definition of a scam?
    Definition of proof?

    I am just trying to help people out here. To call me a scam I need to first scam people. I sell chinese products, I do,they are not fake... they work. Other than that I opened up for brands since I found a dropshipper who can. So do you call dealextreme.com a scam too? They sell chinese products, THEY do not have stock, but they have direct contacts in shenzen with manufacters. You do not know how the world works.

    Whatever dude, I spoiled enough time on your blackmail post. I have orders to make at lightinthebox. Peace
    LOL!! Everyone knows you well. You were a very well known ref whore monitor the so called Guarddogmonitor ... You helped many people to get ripped off by all ponzi hyips you pimped... Now You're trying to help people to get ripped off again by these Chinese wholesale scammers...

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    Ben,

    Your major problem is going to be that you have been, and continue to be, involved with HYIP ponzi games.

    You may attract fellow ponzi players to your business, HOWEVER, any genuine customers who do any research at all will quickly find out your history.

    Remember, what goes on the internet STAYS on the internet.

    AFAIK, you've never come out and admitted HYIP ponzi games are both illegal and immoral.

    You're forever tainted with the stain of being involved.

    If you're quite happy to rely on fellow HYIP ponzi players for your business, good luck to you.

    For all anyone knows, you may have woken up to the reality of what you were doing and decided to go "legit"

    BUT, you are going to have a hard time convincing Joe Public your business is not just a variation of the HYIP ponzi scene.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Fgold View Post
    LOL!! Everyone knows you well. You were a very well known ref whore monitor the so called Guarddogmonitor ... You helped many people to get ripped off by all ponzi hyips you pimped... Now You're trying to help people to get ripped off again by these Chinese wholesale scammers...
    So what, hyip were wrong, thats why i stopped with it. All my history is from some years ago... I am still moderator on flaxtalk, but you dont have a clue what on their, since its a invite only community, since we only invest in real bussineses.

    Felipe, I see you win money on goldtalk sometimes? Were do you think that money is from lol, your money is dirty. Mine i worked honest for, not by ripping of people...

    Felipe, talk to my hand, go have a new hobby, since being an ass doesnt work, maybe play ...


    For joe public, I come here and i fight, the same I will do for your customer. Why would I scam? One bad post can ruïn my bussines. A returning customer will make me more.


    @ PMlittleroundman, I do not care, the users will see i fight back against the trolls. And your even helping me with my SEO and credibility.

    @ PMlittleroundman, I was active in hyips, thats true, I played on them... just the same as going to the casino... although true it wasnt legal.

    Their was a reason why I stopped? Hyip is wrong, every visitor who comes to my life chat and asks about a way to earn money, I tell them to stay of hyip. I lost enough on them. When you checked my accounts, did you see any activity?? Tell me, did you?

    If you want to check out flaxtalk, I can invite you in, and have a second opinion about me. Probelly doing more research about me...

    Right now you live about ASSUMPTIONS

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    Ben,

    you can stamp your feet and threaten as much as you like, and it won't make a bit of difference.

    Facts are facts.

    Most of what you're now claiming to be "true" WRT your current business is the same as what you claimed to be "true" WRT HYIPs during your time as a HYIP ponzi player/monitor.

    The fact that you're here having to argue the point is proof of what is being said.

    There's an old maxim: "past behaviour predicts future behaviour"

    All "Felipe" or anyone else has to do is bring up your past and you and your business are dead in the water.

    Except, perhaps for a few unwary souls and some of your HYIP ponzi "friends"

    You may be quite happy to carry on that way, who knows ???

    Would YOU trust your money to Bernard Madoff, given his history ???

    One vindictive victim of your past life with a keyboard, and internet access and you'll spend the rest of your life fighting fights just like this one.

    It is what it is.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    WHatever... Beleave what you want, you guys never listed to any argument I brought up here. Although I defended myself, and I am content about how I did it. Keep an eye on the thread I made (;

    Have a nice day (-:

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    Keep an eye on the thread I made
    Why ???

    Do they have paid shills in the online electronic biz the same as they have in the HYIP ponzi games "industry"

    Who's going to believe any posters in your thread are genuine customers ??

    Do you have customers who will provide "I got paid" testimonials ? Or perhaps "I got my stuff" or "I got my refund"

    You know EXACTLY how to fake forum postings, just like everyone on the HYIP ponzi fantasy games forums.

    Oh, yes,

    before I forget:

    Online "Private" investment clubs are neither "private" nor legal in most countries, only in HYIPland.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    that thread is only for support, not a get ordered thread. The custumers who have been mistreated can reply their if they even would exist. You proballe BEEN To lazy again to read... Just like you don't even know what flaxtalk is (since its closed community), Just like felipe told that free shipping doesnt exist... I all proofed it wrong. You making assumptions...
    And yes, thier are people, even people who uploaded something to youtube. I even give them a coupon if they send me a picture. For the record, I do not threaten anyone. I am just defending. You calling my girl ugly here, and I am trying to defend my girl here. Btw, do you got any other members here? it seems like a death community... Probelly because the most killed themself by always thinking so negative. Yes thats an assumption I want to beleave haha
    Last edited by lrapshop; 06-28-2011 at 10:12 AM. Reason: realscam is biased useless forum

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    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    So what, hyip were wrong, thats why i stopped with it. All my history is from some years ago... I am still moderator on flaxtalk, but you dont have a clue what on their, since its a invite only community, since we only invest in real bussineses.

    Felipe, I see you win money on goldtalk sometimes? Were do you think that money is from lol, your money is dirty. Mine i worked honest for, not by ripping of people...

    Felipe, talk to my hand, go have a new hobby, since being an ass doesnt work, maybe play ...


    For joe public, I come here and i fight, the same I will do for your customer. Why would I scam? One bad post can ruïn my bussines. A returning customer will make me more.


    @ PMlittleroundman, I do not care, the users will see i fight back against the trolls. And your even helping me with my SEO and credibility.

    @ PMlittleroundman, I was active in hyips, thats true, I played on them... just the same as going to the casino... although true it wasnt legal.

    Their was a reason why I stopped? Hyip is wrong, every visitor who comes to my life chat and asks about a way to earn money, I tell them to stay of hyip. I lost enough on them. When you checked my accounts, did you see any activity?? Tell me, did you?

    If you want to check out flaxtalk, I can invite you in, and have a second opinion about me. Probelly doing more research about me...

    Right now you live about ASSUMPTIONS
    So Why do you think I got dirty money??? Just because I did some tasks in a forum about DGC's, Forex and hyips??? So the forum cannot sell ads to generate money?? many people in this forum already got earning from other hyip forums(ex: Okosh got money from Talkgold sponsored contests...) Its forum advertisement market. If an advertiser want to buy a banner, text link, sticky thread... the advertiser is the only responsible for any legal liability relating to the advertisement. Forum just sell a product(ads) and should NOT be responsible for their bad usage. For example many shops sells guns,knifes but are those shops responsible for the crimes made by buyers who made a bad usage of those arms and killed someone with it???
    Was I a hyip player?? Yea in the past. I risked my money in such scams but never recruited anyone to join it! None deposit any cent under my ref links. I was not a ref whore just a small hyip player who left it 1 year ago...
    You were a hyip monitor which is totally different because monitors receive paid listings and rarelly spend a single cent to minitor X,Y or Z scams and you got money from ref commissions, advertising fees and monitoring memberships... you were who benefit the most from Hyips and you KNOW about the nature of the industry and continue to profit, show no remorse and you promoted them knowing this info and you got profits from those illegal activities by getting tens,hundreds referrals.
    And flaxtalk does list many reviews about such scams and it seems to be just a private forum for hyip players, pimps, ref whore/shill monitors, etc...

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    OMG... read it yourself what you wrote here, Are you mental ill?
    I saw goldtalk list scams, 200% daily ****, hourly ****, company in where panama ****... Talkgold, moneymakergroup and other's... all They didnt DO ANTHING FOR THAT money! They did just the same, refer new people in that imagine land. I even did something for the money, I posted on forums, once a payment. They did ref whore too, although they got a fixed ammount...

    They did the same as me, the forums never invested a single cent, I invested the money I got from them back in the program that asked for a listing and brought report out on forums with ONE account. if they were paying or not. I had a listing of my monitor in my signature, so everyone KNEW I was a monitor. I just wrote what I saw.

    You wanna know how many people I ever reffered? 5, true... because my monitor only had 20 viewers a day including me. Get real, you getting money that is a sick as mine in the time of the monitor. I stopped, you still play this ****!

    I was not a ref whore just a small hyip player who left it 1 year ago...
    I never said hyip would make them rich, I never activly reffed, I only listed them, their were message written in the HEADER and the FOOTER hyip is a serious risk. I dont seem even wat was the diffrence between me and a forums. I had the same policies, I sold the gun's and the knifes too...

    YOUR MONEY IS DIRTY

    They come part from the hyip, that little investor your are talking about, is paying you.
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    Question Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    OMG... read it yourself what you wrote here, Are you mental ill?
    I saw goldtalk list scams, 200% daily ****, hourly ****, company in where panama ****... Talkgold, moneymakergroup and other's... all They didnt DO ANTHING FOR THAT money! They did just the same, refer new people in that imagine land. I even did something for the money, I posted on forums, once a payment. They did ref whore too, although they got a fixed ammount...

    They did the same as me, the forums never invested a single cent, I invested the money I got from them back in the program that asked for a listing and brought report out on forums with ONE account. if they were paying or not. I had a listing of my monitor in my signature, so everyone KNEW I was a monitor. I just wrote what I saw.

    You wanna know how many people I ever reffered? 5, true... because my monitor only had 20 viewers a day including me. Get real, you getting money that is a sick as mine in the time of the monitor. I stopped, you still play this ****!



    I never said hyip would make them rich, I never activly reffed, I only listed them, their were message written in the HEADER and the FOOTER hyip is a serious risk. I dont seem even wat was the diffrence between me and a forums. I had the same policies, I sold the gun's and the knifes too...

    YOUR MONEY IS DIRTY

    They come part from the hyip, that little investor your are talking about, is paying you.
    What is goldtalk??? LOL I never heard of such forum... You do not know what you're talking about. I'm just a mod in a forum which its main sponsor is Eurogoldcash and at the moment there's NO HYIP ads showed there ! I'm not the one resposible for forum advertising revenue and I'm only responsible for forum moderation and nothing more... You can see 4 forex brokers and 1 casino banner in the top of the forum so where are the Hyip ads you were talking about??? There's no hyip ads at the moment so you lied...

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    I mean goldage (; my bad

    I talking in the history about goldage... just like you talking about my history. Now go play you little violin! haha you call me a scammer because I moderate in a hyip forum? But your doing it too... jezus help him find the light. you lied already some times here... Read the post about free shipping, and how I OWNED you lol "free shipping doesnt exist cry cry..." nnanananana cry cry" ...

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    I mean goldage (; my bad

    I talking in the history about goldage... just like you talking about my history. Now go play you little violin! haha you call me a scammer because I moderate in a hyip forum? But your doing it too... jezus help him find the light. you lied already some times here... Read the post about free shipping, and how I OWNED you lol "free shipping doesnt exist cry cry..." nnanananana cry cry" ...
    LOL even in the past their main advertising revenue didn't come from hyips... And its totally diferent when you're just a mod in a Forex/hyip forum and when you own a hyip monitor... Your doggy scam is already dead but he bit many people in the past who still seek to heal those wounds... And as I know you used to open special offers to encourage members to join under your ref link in such ponzis. I'm not sure how many you recruited but I guess I was 1 of your referrals who invested $1 in fxtradingworldwide. com LOL I got about $1.08 back after 5 business days minus LR fees which part of the ridiculous profit. Anyways I played just for fun and I don't think that $1 I got back had done big hole in those who lost money there. So it couldn't be only 5 referrals because I still renember how many refs guarddogmonitor got in this hyip and were more than 5...
    About free shipping I said that is not for all types of orders. I joined those sites to make a simulation and they ALL charge shipping fees for small ammounts... So It makes no sense to offer free shipping for purchases lower than $10...

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Fgold, your a lozer. how much times I am saying we only added the free shipping up? Did you even checked that on my site? I bet NOT. Btw, the branded products people need to mail me, since true, big items we only allow paid shipping, do we can give them a tracking number DHL, FEDEX ect. We can even make an account for people, so we are doing only the paying part. You have no ******* idea were you speak about.

    Check Cool Gadgets, Electronic Gadgets on Sale, Free Shipping for all New and Cool Gadgets at MiniInTheBox, its part of lightinthebox were we added 95% of the products...

    US$ 1.38 - Screen Protector for 2.5-inch Digital Camera LCD, Free Shipping On All Gadgets!
    we selling the product Buy Electronics & Gadgets | Alertpay Libertyreserve Perfect Money| Mp4 players ,solar chargers,ear phones

    Your not only a liar, but a hypocrite. You play still hyips, I left it for what it is, I made my idea true. Search me that cheaper item, I dare you. Now go play your little violin (;

    btw, check the thread of fxeuro or something, their was an inssurence that did go wrong, I paid the guy back... but hey, beleave what you want, since every proof I trying to give you are saying i "faked it".

    Why not come on gtalk and see on webcam some of my lightinthebox, everbuying accounts, and have a chat with me... but probelly you gonna say if "fotoshopped" that too lol... ow no, its videoshopped lol

    But i didnt see you yet comming to ask proof, no your keeping on bashing... And the more you talking here, the more useless this thread comes.

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    Fgold, your a lozer. how much times I am saying we only added the free shipping up? Did you even checked that on my site? I bet NOT. Btw, the branded products people need to mail me, since true, big items we only allow paid shipping, do we can give them a tracking number DHL, FEDEX ect. We can even make an account for people, so we are doing only the paying part. You have no ******* idea were you speak about.

    Check Cool Gadgets, Electronic Gadgets on Sale, Free Shipping for all New and Cool Gadgets at MiniInTheBox, its part of lightinthebox were we added 95% of the products...

    US$ 1.38 - Screen Protector for 2.5-inch Digital Camera LCD, Free Shipping On All Gadgets!
    we selling the product Buy Electronics & Gadgets | Alertpay Libertyreserve Perfect Money| Mp4 players ,solar chargers,ear phones

    Your not only a liar, but a hypocrite. You play still hyips, I left it for what it is, I made my idea true. Search me that cheaper item, I dare you. Now go play your little violin (;

    btw, check the thread of fxeuro or something, their was an inssurence that did go wrong, I paid the guy back... but hey, beleave what you want, since every proof I trying to give you are saying i "faked it".

    Why not come on gtalk and see on webcam some of my lightinthebox, everbuying accounts, and have a chat with me... but probelly you gonna say if "fotoshopped" that too lol... ow no, its videoshopped lol

    But i didnt see you yet comming to ask proof, no your keeping on bashing... And the more you talking here, the more useless this thread comes.
    Like I said free shipping is for certain products and not for ALL products... Probably you only order those with free shipping but you-ll need to re/shipp or not it to potencial clients in your lrapshop...

    Untill now I-e never seen any reputable shop showing sales proofs in their facebook page. Because the major insurance for their clents is the legit way of operation. If they are registered, have real contacts and allow paymentmethods like paypal, Ccs,etc..
    In LRapshop the way of operation is based in Hyip model. We accept LR or AP and promise that in future you will receive your items... Why we should only trust in sellers words??? We need a real guarantee and not some mere words from an old hyip pimp

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Look, maybe I sometimes sound angry here. But the only thing here is want to proof you the other way.

    1. we list proof

    why? because all shops do, check lightinthebox, probelly the best china's webshop do it. Go to the picture proofs uploaded by other customers. THey are real people, over the whole world.

    2. Lightinthebox is a respectable company. When an item doesnt arrive, you can ask them to track it (we got a platimum dropshipping membership). If they see that it has been lost due custum reasons or lost (read stolen), they refund without batteling.

    3. The model is based on any other e-bussines. Although we use other e-currencies. Alertpay can ben recharged, so basicaly they give security for people who want to try us. These other e-currencies give us the power to find a market for those who havent paypal, that the only reason. You work with eurogoldcash, did you ever researched they got the real papers to operate such unit? Well alertpay and liberty reserve, flaxpay and perfect money have.

    4. Alertpay doesnt offer Credit card protection against people who use stolen credit cards.
    So thats the only reason why we dont accept credit cards.

    5. Offcourse to get the items, you need to buy them, that everywhere like this.

    6. In your post you told I was scam because free shipping didnt existed... I delivered proof it was.

    Maybe I am an old pimp, but I never scammed anyone. I swear this on the life of my girlfriend and my mother's grave. I am christian, so I beleave in something that will judge me. If I am a pimp, your one too. why did you joined fxtrading for the first way? You knew they are ponzi's,... You may only got some cents, but they were dirty.

    Fgold, when will you come to my webcam session?
    Make a fake gmail if you really are so scared of me. I do not ask that you are on webcam, I will show you my screen with them cam.

    People who are negative, only see the bad things.

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Look, maybe I sometimes sound angry here. But the only thing here is want to proof you the other way.

    1. we list proof

    why? because all shops do, check lightinthebox, probelly the best china's webshop do it. Go to the picture proofs uploaded by other customers. THey are real people, over the whole world.

    2. Lightinthebox is a respectable company. When an item doesnt arrive, you can ask them to track it (we got a platimum dropshipping membership). If they see that it has been lost due custum reasons or lost (read stolen), they refund without batteling.

    3. The model is based on any other e-bussines. Although we use other e-currencies. Alertpay can ben recharged, so basicaly they give security for people who want to try us. These other e-currencies give us the power to find a market for those who havent paypal, that the only reason. You work with eurogoldcash, did you ever researched they got the real papers to operate such unit? Well alertpay and liberty reserve, flaxpay and perfect money have.

    4. Alertpay doesnt offer Credit card protection against people who use stolen credit cards.
    So thats the only reason why we dont accept credit cards.

    5. Offcourse to get the items, you need to buy them, that everywhere like this.

    6. In your post you told I was scam because free shipping didnt existed... I delivered proof it was.

    Maybe I am an old pimp, but I never scammed anyone. I swear this on the life of my girlfriend and my mother's grave. I am christian, so I beleave in something that will judge me. If I am a pimp, your one too. why did you joined fxtrading for the first way? You knew they are ponzi's,... You may only got some cents, but they were dirty.

    Fgold, when will you come to my webcam session?
    Make a fake gmail if you really are so scared of me. I do not ask that you are on webcam, I will show you my screen with them cam.

    People who are negative, only see the bad things.
    Last edited by lrapshop; 06-29-2011 at 12:57 PM. Reason: Fgold is a pimp

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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    I sell chinese products, I do, they are not fake... they work.
    Just cos they work don't mean they not fakes....And if they fakes then what you doing is stealing.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fgold View Post
    The truth is:

    1-There's no company and you're dealing with anonymous individuals
    2- They are not paying taxes and operating illegally...
    3- They do not offer buyers protection neither accept payment by paypal/moneybookers/Ccs
    4- One of them is an old shill monitor who were pimping many ponzis in the past...

    All the points above are enough to prove that this site is not REAL company but a REAL SCAM....
    BTW you're freely to think what you want. If you decide it isn't it's you own choice.
    How do you know if he pays taxes or not??....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fgold View Post
    Having no company means having NO GUARANTEE!!!
    This is not true...But of course it would depend on where the seller lives....

    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Alertpay, Liberty Reserve and Western Union just scream scam. Why would anyone buy through you and not go directly through the actual merchant with the quality name brand product that they wish to purchase?

    Soapboxmom
    Many reasons.....In many cases to buy through the actual company costs more...Best example here in Aus is Coke....Only a fool buys Coke from Coke as it's cheaper from almost anywhere else....

    The reasons for this do vary from company to company but can be as simple as "bulk purchase" or being what we call a "Grandpa account".....
    Those who hold "Grandpa accounts" can often retail for cheaper then the average person can buy wholesale...

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    There's an old maxim: "past behaviour predicts future behaviour"

    All "Felipe" or anyone else has to do is bring up your past and you and your business are dead in the water.

    Except, perhaps for a few unwary souls and some of your HYIP ponzi "friends"
    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Ben,
    You're forever tainted with the stain of being involved.
    This is more than a little unfair LRM
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    Quote Originally Posted by lrapshop View Post
    If you want to check out flaxtalk, I can invite you in, and have a second opinion about me. Probelly doing more research about me...

    Right now you live about ASSUMPTIONS
    I agree....Lot of assumptions here and very little facts....

    Is the offer of Flaxtalk open to anyone??....I would like to check it out
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    This is more than a little unfair LRM
    I don't consider it unfair, merely pragmatic.

    The situation is what it is.

    The facts are:

    * LrApShop isn't merely a former "player" He was at least one step up the totem pole, a fact which can be easily researched.

    * He's not now commenting as a former "player" he's asking people to trust him with their money. And that would be to trust him AGAIN.

    * He's doing EXACTLY what the great majority of "experts" warn people NOT to do i.e. only accepting Western Union and non refundable "alternative" payment processors

    * Fgold is proving my point that there only needs to be one vindictive anti HYIPer following him around, and his business has a handicap establishing itself.

    What I think personally has nothing to do with it.

    There's a whole industry out there warning Joe Citizen to be careful shopping on the 'net.

    IrApShop in its' present form ticks most of the "what to be careful of" boxes.

    It's just another thing HYIP ponzi players need to be aware of before they start plastering their name and/or identity all over the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    Just cos they work don't mean they not fakes....And if they fakes then what you doing is stealing.....


    How do you know if he pays taxes or not??....



    This is not true...But of course it would depend on where the seller lives....



    Many reasons.....In many cases to buy through the actual company costs more...Best example here in Aus is Coke....Only a fool buys Coke from Coke as it's cheaper from almost anywhere else....

    The reasons for this do vary from company to company but can be as simple as "bulk purchase" or being what we call a "Grandpa account".....
    Those who hold "Grandpa accounts" can often retail for cheaper then the average person can buy wholesale...



    This is more than a little unfair LRM
    Okush, thanku for being objective, I really appriciate it that their still are members who arent biased. Okush, do you remember me of teamgpt.com? You were member of our forum?
    Littleroundman, I been a monitor, I did it, and I stopped since I was tired of how it worked. I always presented the information for what it is on the forums, just like these forums list banners up. They placed disclaimers, I placed disclaimers too. I only actually did my insurrence things on hyip forums... people who know that is is super risky! You taking assumptions and place them up here as real, you screamed I was not trustful. Were are the people?

    Do you see the comment in yahoo answers about my shop? This guy did never do his research, check scam.com, were is lrapshop.com somewhere?

    Maybe I do not pay taxes, and thats wrong in some way. But it al started out as an idea. When your student you don't thing longer than that. I am a programmer, so I only think on how i would implement it. This is a trust-service, thats true.
    See me as the friend in the middle who helps out people who dont have credit cards, who dont can use payal due their country laws, eg pakistan, india,...
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    Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    On okush comment about the chinese products:

    I never advertised them as the brand. I always told it is brandless, although it can work with the product. Untill 1 week ago we didnt have any brands. On the about page of lrapshop:

    Our shop is about offering a unique service. Providing electronics and little gadgets to customers with Alertpay, Perfect Money and Libertyreserve funds.

    See us service as your personal assistant in shopping. We buy for you the gadgets and you can pay with your favourite e-currency without going to exchangers! Or service doesn't stop their, we also help you with support after you bought it to make sure you have the best expierence!
    Open since March 2010 LrApShop has been offering a resell service. LrApShop has trusted big name suppliers that package and ship out the products listed on our site. All products are shipped from China with Free Shipping. Our trusted service , and great customer support has grown to what we are today!

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    Lightbulb Re: lrapshop.com another scammy shop owned by an old hyip monitor!!!

    I originally came upon lrapshop.com by Googling merchants that accept AlertPay. Not because my country doesn't accept PayPal, but simply because I was screwed over by them and vowed not to use them again. I believe the search term was, Merchants that accept Alertpay. I was then directed to this site, Where can i use Alertpay? which in turn directed me towards Irapshop.com.

    I then came to this forum by searching, Buy Electronics & Gadgets | Alertpay Libertyreserve Perfect Money| Mp4 players ,solar chargers,ear phones on Google and this site was on the second page of results.

    Anyway, has anybody actually dealt with this company? I do find it very odd that he only accepts three merchants that are quite known to be perhaps shady. However, in trying to keep an open-mind, perhaps this is his attempt to be legit.

    If nobody has and is simply going by his previous track record, then perhaps I can be the guinea pig?

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