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10-20-2015, 08:48 AM
#401
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
laidback
I believe Brian and Edward own both TG and MMG. I remember them banning a lot of naysayers, but damn few ponzi operators or pimps.
I think they don't own either one but rather administer both. The actual owner is some sort of Pakistani corporation the name of which I forgot.
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10-20-2015, 08:54 AM
#402
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
I think they don't own either one but rather administer both. The actual owner is some sort of Pakistani corporation the name of which I forgot.
Possible, although at one time I think they did own them. I haven't followed either one recently.
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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10-20-2015, 09:16 AM
#403
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
PayPal gave you green light to use them for mybinaryprofits? Have you got proof of it?
Wire fraud...? Conspiracy...? This is most certainly not the case. Selling online advertising as a service is not against any laws. The admins here should sell advertising, like mmg does. Or even put up google ads. That's free and doesn't require much coding knowledge, it's good monthly income. I'm lost as all heck as to why some of you people think I lack common sense. With everything going on online, companies being shut down, people going to jail... Why you think I'd purposefully set myself up for disaster such as those mentioned? it's 2015 for Cx's sake, not 95. Also, I must have listed at least a dozen other ad sites that use paypal as well.
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10-21-2015, 12:16 AM
#404
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Do you think those legitimate big investors Steve is chasing will be impressed if they Google his projects' name ???
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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10-21-2015, 07:12 AM
#405
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Steve is completely ignorant of the law. On MMG he put forth an idea to take deposits via one processor and allow withdrawals via multiple. That's a money laundering charge in addition to a fraud one. He really should forget HYIPs and take some time to learn the laws.
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10-21-2015, 07:18 AM
#406
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
SteveLawson
Wire fraud...? Conspiracy...?
Wire fraud is what you would be charged with. If PayPal officially agreed to act as your payment processor, PayPay would be charged with a conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
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10-21-2015, 01:58 PM
#407
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
littleroundman
Do you think those legitimate big investors Steve is chasing will be impressed if they Google his projects' name ???
LoL, It's all well and good. You can google anything and find not so good stuff. Cars, appliances, computers... you name it, they all have not so good write ups, it's the nature of the beast. Some people like firefox, others like chrome, 5 people like Internet Explorer ( Huh? ) LoL.
At least if people read the forums, they'll see I've just been standing my ground and defending myself. ok, sometimes not using the best words in the dictionary, but excuse me for being driven to the point of becoming pissed off. It was getting nuts with the accusations, attacks and abuse, just saying. This time around at least everyone now is making valid points and given me a chance to address and/or rebutt.
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10-21-2015, 02:10 PM
#408
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
Steve is completely ignorant of the law. On MMG he put forth an idea to take deposits via one processor and allow withdrawals via multiple.
I know very well about this. I have members all of the time telling me to send their money through pz, meanwhile I pull the account records and see their purchases has all come through pp. They receive an email directly from me saying it's against the law to spend through one and send back through another. I have some international members swearing up and down they paid through the one that they are trying to receive their commissions through... I'm not that dense... I see every transaction is the system Live and where it is the payments come from. People are ridiculous... One of the benefits of running an online company... you get to meet and experience many facets of the human condition.
I was actually looking the other part up, if we were to just use, let's say first data as the merchant account, that we could send commissions through the online payment processors, My partners informed me that they would have to send back commissions through the credit card / debit card that they used to make purchases, back through first data or authorize. So that settles that.
I'm pulling pz off the site, as far as purchases, but the few members who have used payza to make purchases can receive their withdrawals through pz for as long as it is open still here in the usa. But as far as purchases, We're done with them, 86'd... I hate alertpay/payza. I have no Idea why people swear by them. Just another LR... HEY, that's just my opinion.
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10-21-2015, 02:17 PM
#409
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
Wire fraud is what you would be charged with. If PayPal officially agreed to act as your payment processor, PayPay would be charged with a conspiracy to commit wire fraud.
Hmmm, there is nothing that would be charged, now or in the future, there are no laws being broken. One can do a Huey, Dewey, and Louie test all they want, however, like you suggested in another post, let's all take some time to learn the laws, instead of firing out one liners. if any of you have actually bothered to research, what exactly is exempt or can be non-registered... then you will understand, it's all there, you just have to read it.
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10-21-2015, 02:42 PM
#410
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
SteveLawson
Hmmm, there is nothing that would be charged, now or in the future, there are no laws being broken.
Then you can show us proof that PayPal officially agreed to be your payment processor? Let's see this proof.
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10-21-2015, 04:28 PM
#411
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
Steve "Potty Mouth" Lawson
Also, I must have listed at least a dozen other ad sites that use paypal as well.
All those other sites are scams too, haven't we already covered that? Putting it in language you might understand, "ad rev shares" are like a circle of glory holes where pimps are posting same ads for the same referral links for yet more scams. Maybe one of the advanced pimps has an upsell for a super funnel system that they claim to personally use while screwing their sucker lists.
Originally Posted by
Steve "Potty Mouth" Lawson
With everything going on online, companies being shut down, people going to jail... Why you think I'd purposefully set myself up for disaster such as those mentioned? it's 2015 for Cx's sake, not 95.
Roman, the answer to that question is you will simply vanish one day. Maybe a few victims show up at a mail drop and find a puzzled Vietnamese cobbler renting PO boxes to supplement his income. Says you are actually a sassy redhead, certainly not a Steve.
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10-21-2015, 05:01 PM
#412
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
Says you are actually a sassy redhead, certainly not a Steve.
Where would a sassy redhead learn the sort of language Steve used before cooling off? I haven't heard anything like that even in girly jail. No, he is a male, and probably not very sassy.
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10-21-2015, 05:15 PM
#413
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
Where would a sassy redhead learn the sort of language Steve used before cooling off?
Eyeing the Flash on the carny circuit would be my guess.
Originally Posted by
E2014T
No, he is a male, and probably not very sassy
Could probably use a spa day...
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10-21-2015, 05:21 PM
#414
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
Eyeing the Flash on the carny circuit would be my guess.
Thanks. Had to look it up. I'll add it to our book section.
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10-21-2015, 06:18 PM
#415
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
laidback
I believe Brian and Edward own both TG and MMG. I remember them banning a lot of naysayers, but damn few ponzi operators or pimps.
Brian bought MMg years ago.......I reported it soon after it happened but of course very few believed me....
Proof came in the TG "cash folder"....Was a folder where members could win between $1-5 in e-gold for answering trivia, guess the number or whatever...
Was a thread started by Geoff there that included the posting of a pic....I googled the pic link(photobucket) and it took me to a thread at MMG made same day in their cash folder....
Geoff is "Realist" at MMG....
Brian is "UncleAwesome"....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
I think they don't own either one but rather administer both. The actual owner is some sort of Pakistani corporation the name of which I forgot.
LMAO....And you believed that BS story??.....
Brian owns a bunch of forums and no, not all are scammy forums like MMG or TG.....He also invested heavily in domain names...He owns hundreds if not thousands of them....
Don't know if anyone else got the opportunity to read the TE folder at TG...In particular the thread about how Brian was watching super bowl and saw an add...He immediately threw up a forum and by the end of the game he had made a heap of money through google adds on the forum and the like....
Brian is an incredible genius....Just unfortunate he used his wisdom for scammy forums...
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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10-21-2015, 06:21 PM
#416
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
SteveLawson
Wire fraud...? Conspiracy...? This is most certainly not the case. Selling online advertising as a service is not against any laws.
Selling advertising as a service is not against any laws.......Selling advertising with a fixed expected ROI like you are selling is indeed breaking numerous laws....
Understand the difference yet Steve??....))
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10-21-2015, 06:29 PM
#417
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
okosh
LMAO....And you believed that BS story??
It sort of made sense to me. A forum advertising for the most part fraudulent opportunities would be open to lawsuits if owned by someone in U.S.
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10-21-2015, 06:55 PM
#418
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
It sort of made sense to me. A forum advertising for the most part fraudulent opportunities would be open to lawsuits if owned by someone in U.S.
And in Pakistan, it would be open to lawsuits over riba and gharar.
http://www.onislam.net/english/polit...ia/433870.html
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10-21-2015, 07:12 PM
#419
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
ProfHenryHiggins
Thanks, very interesting. What is more likely: a lawsuit in Pakistan or a lawsuit in the U.S.?
Also, would mybinaryoptions be considered gharar on the part of Steve and riba on the part of the participants?
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10-21-2015, 07:22 PM
#420
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
okosh
Brian bought MMg years ago.
MMG was sold in 2006 or 2007 by the owner who started it in 2004. I didn't know who bought it but there was a thread on MMG about new administration.
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10-21-2015, 07:34 PM
#421
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
SteveLawson
At least if people read the forums, they'll see I've just been standing my ground and defending myself.
This means you are not a professional scammer, only an amateur one. Listen to the good folk here. They know what they are talking about. They have never been wrong about a program being a scam. Not once.
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10-21-2015, 07:43 PM
#422
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
E2014T
MMG was sold in 2006 or 2007 by the owner who started it in 2004. I didn't know who bought it but there was a thread on MMG about new administration.
Was March 2007....And the only mention was this joke thread started by previous owner Jason Tucker a year b4 it happened...
Mmg Has Merged With Talkgold! (April Fools Joke)
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10-22-2015, 04:42 AM
#423
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Originally Posted by
SteveLawson
if any of you have actually bothered to research, what exactly is exempt or can be non-registered... then you will understand, it's all there, you just have to read it.
Do you think we want to be right? No, we would all be very happy if there was a legitimate program with a sustainable model that helped out people in need. But there isn't one.
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10-22-2015, 04:23 PM
#424
Re: mybinaryprofits.com / Steve Lawson ...Ken Russo says this is real.....
Originally Posted by
SteveLawson
LoL, It's all well and good. You can google anything and find not so good stuff. Cars, appliances, computers... you name it, they all have not so good write ups, it's the nature of the beast. Some people like firefox, others like chrome, 5 people like Internet Explorer ( Huh? ) LoL.
Philosophically you are making two points here
1. All businesses get bad reviews. Indeed they do but
...Based on that you seem to think that a toxic brand with multiple bad reviews showing they are toxic and not showing any business model at all or any actual corporate ownership structure pertaining to liability is somehow acceptable. WHY?
2. It is all a matter of taste.
... Some people like banks or companies on the stock market (which by the way had to be a limited company for five years and produce annual accounts and memorandum and articles of association and listed shareholders and directors before having an official public offer) and you rate them the same as HYIP ponzi frauds
This time around at least everyone now is making valid points and given me a chance to address and/or rebutt.
address and rebutt 1 and 2 above please.
I don't by the what think you can refute it.
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10-24-2015, 12:22 PM
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Steve has been silent both here and on MMG for a few days now. There seem to be a couple of unresolved complaints reported by MMG members in the program thread.
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