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    Online Profit Masters Scam Or Legit

    Online Profit Masters is using the usual boiler-template with the big red headlines, fake testimonials, link-posting calculations, fake Karl Goodard story, and many more of the usual red flags. They also include the usual "bonus claim" of a one-on-one phone consultation which of course leads you to a high pressure sales call trying to get you to spend thousands of dollars on worthless coaching or questionable products.

    There's a comment from a person named Clark who goes over the sales process in detail all the way from the lead gen product to the lead qualifier to the final closer. He describes the sequence as follows:
    "- When you make the “get started” call, you’ll get a front line phone person who will have someone (an expert) call you back. That person for me was Lorenzo Mecham. Mecham pre-qualified me as to how much time I was willing to invest which was his segue into how much money I could invest.
    - The next expert (Austin Bawden) called hours later and immediately told me the training package I needed to purchase ($5000)
    - Over the next two weeks they called me relentlessly. Changing their method and putting “BLOCKED” id on their phone did I answer, lo and behold it was David Merill from Online Profit Masters. He seemed like a nice enough chap using his version of sales psychology needs/hopes/dreams. I actually, enjoyed the conversation. He reaffirmed I was their “ideal candidate” and they would even waive some costs to get me started."

    He said one of the "training" companies is they use as the instructors is FocusLC.

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    Austin Bawden and Phil Gannuscia of Online Profit Masters are no strangers to the high pressure scam telemarketing industry.

    Here's a complaint from 2011:




    and here's another from 2010:

    Sunday, December 19, 2010

    Should this company ever contact you!


    Do not do business with them they are crooks! They will course you into purchasing there products and at a high price tell you lies what they can do for you and what profits will make. However they do not stand behind what they preach to you. I purchased products from them to see what he business was allowing them to convince me that I would be making a profit in a week to pay for the product that was purchased.

    I told them that I worked a full time job and could not dedicate a lot of time to the business. I was told that is okay you can work at your own pace and still be able to do good at the business. I logged in to the account and found out what it dealt with which was ebay. I didn't want an ebay business but I figured I would give it a shot for a few weeks and cancel it if I couldn't do it. Thinking to myself that everyone has a thirty day return policy, otherwise they would have told me up front that it was shorter. Well I tried to cancel the product and was told that it was canceled and that someone would call me in a few days for my return. Low and behold I never received a call about two weeks later I decided to call them and find out what was going on. I was told that someone would call me. A couple of days later I received a call from a gentleman telling me that I can't cancel this program and that I was locked in to this program. He explained that he would help me through the program and have coaches call and help me like I was suppose to be getting in the beginning. Well I figured that the worst that could happen is that I would get a business going that would make a good profit which is what he also promised me. Well three weeks went by and I never received a call, so I decided to dispute the charges on my credit cards. I then called the guy and told him what happened and that I just wanted my money back and to cancel the entire program. The guy told me that no I will have a coach call you back today, well that call never came. I received a refund on my cards from the dispute. Then on Wednesday, December 15, 2010 I received a letter from my credit card company telling me that they have recharged my card for $3500.00 now the amount charged to my card is $3000.00 over my credit limit. I don't want any problems with these people and I have not done anything other than trying to get a business going that will take care of me and my family. Now they are taking food from my family and myself by doing this. This company is full of lies and deceit I tell you

    DO NOT DO BUSINESS WITH THIS COMPANY!!!!

    This is warning for your own good. VENSURE INTERNATIONAL LLC, address 1780 W. 90th S. West Jordan, UT 84088, Company contact Mr. Phil Gannuscia and a Mr. Austin Bowden. They are not an accredited business. They are very unfair in their business dealing and caution should be used when dealing with them. They have just screwed up my family's Christmas while they are sitting their rich schist-er selves at home spoiling there family's and children after messing up the lives of the people barley making it in life. Selling you information that cost $7000, that is free on ebay itself to learn. I wish that I would have not let them course me into giving them my information and did my research before talking to them. But I fell face flat on the floor with that one. The crooked people we have in America that are screwing their own people trying to make something of themselves and just survive life in general. To all my fellow Americans and people of the internet world stay away from crooks like this. They will do nothing but bring harm to you.
    http://vensureinternationalllc.blogspot.com.au/
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    Philip Gannuscia is quite the busy little scammer:

    Another one of his fake "education" sites:




    http://educationtrainingsonline.com/

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    Sounds like he's probably the same person behind the company in the Government Actions Section at this BBB page.

    "Government Actions
    The following describes a government action that has been resolved by either a settlement or a decision by a court or administrative agency. If the matter is being appealed, it will be noted below.

    On March 4, 2010 the Utah Division of Consumer Protection issued an Administrative Citation against Drop Ship Development LLC ("Respondent"). On May 10, 2010 the Division and the Respondent entered into a Settlement Agreement wherein the Respondent agreed to: a) comply with all requirements of the Utah Consumer Sales Practices Act, Telephone and Facsimile Solicitations Act, and Telephone Fraud Prevention Act, and all other laws and rules administered by the Division that are applicable; b) refund in full a specific consumer within 10 business days; c) initiate internal controls and policies to monitor sales transactions to ensure compliance with the above acts and statutes; d) make sales offers in a clear and conspicuous manner so as to make the consumer aware of the products and/or services being offered, the price to be charged, and that consumers are agreeing in a specific/express manner to the offer of products/services/offers and any associated costs; and e) disclose in all offers any qualifications, restrictions, or costs, or to receive any "free" offer or product. Nothing in this Settlement Agreement shall be construed as an admission of guilt or liability by Respondent under any law. Respondent entered into this agreement freely and voluntarily without any undue influence of the Division. On May 10, 2010 the Division issued an Order of Dismissal for the Administrative Citation issued March 4, 2010.

    What government actions does BBB report on?"
    Contact information is listed as:

    Primary Contact: Mr. Phillip Gannuscia (Accounts Admin)
    Mr. Alexander Smith (General Manager)
    Mr. Guy Gritton (Operations Manager)
    Mr. Chad Huntsman (Personnel Manager)

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    I'm beginning to think whenever we see "Phillip Gannuscia" we can safely assume "serial scammer at work"



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    SCAMBOOK.com has opened a group report on the activities of Online Profit Masters:



    Commenced on March 20, 2012 and already has 38 complaints.
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    Paul Schlegel (Founder, WorkAtHomeTruth) has some very uncomplimentary things to say about the Online Profit Masters "opportunity":

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