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03-24-2017, 06:42 AM
#8801
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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03-24-2017, 07:03 AM
#8802
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charlie Scovilles' tactics explained.
Straw man
This article is about the logical fallacy.
A
straw man is a common form of argument and is an informal fallacy based on giving the impression of refuting an opponent's argument, while refuting an argument that was not advanced by that opponent.
One who engages in this fallacy is said to be
"attacking a straw man".
The typical straw man argument creates the illusion of having completely refuted or defeated an opponent's proposition through the covert replacement of it with a different proposition (i.e.
"stand up a straw man") and the subsequent refutation of that false argument (
"knock down a straw man") instead of the opponent's proposition.
This technique has been used throughout history in polemical debate, particularly in arguments about highly charged emotional issues where a fiery
"battle" and the defeat of an
"enemy" may be more valued than critical thinking or an understanding of both sides of the issue.
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03-25-2017, 08:51 AM
#8803
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
http://www.realscam.com/f8/traffic-m...tml#post112745
Ironically Charlie is right. the word "terrorism" is over used BY THE MEDIA ( including social media). In fact academics and diplomats and legal authorities still dont have a single definition. As someone currently studying counter terrorism I can say charlie is partly correct. A lot of the other things he says however arte totally incorrect. so it seems scammers rely on being correct about one widely accepted or widely held view and his targets are the sort of gullible people who count his hits and ignore his misses. When he ropes them in using that he then introduces the toitally unrelated topic of "investment" and his scam.
As for the definition offered he supplies no reference but it says terrorism is 1 unlawful 2 involves violence 3 especially against civilians for 4. political aims.
the forst 3 of these are satisified and Charlier argues on the basis number 4 isnt on his seeming ignorance of the word "AIM" . He seems to thinkk a "political aim" means soimeone has to "aim#" a truck at a building with politicians in it. Now this might well have been the case and the driver was struck or panicked but an attack in the entrance to Parliament at Westminster is clearly a political aim whether or not the aim of the driver was.
I never fail to be amazed at the incompetence of the waffle offered by scammers . Even the evidence they themselves off contradicts the case they try to make but they seem to press on regardless of any logic or reason confident oin the knowledge that their scam is working. and truth be told it IS. Until the time when it ISNT! that time has already passed for Chuck scamville and the consequences of his actions will soon become apparent when Judge Parish returns on this issue.
But somehow I do not expect Scamville to express remorse. Thats why such people need to be removed from civil society. they are harmful and dangerous people and their doctrines are harmful and they need to be removed from hurting defenseless people.
Indeed to take charlier up on his point and apply iot to hois own case the words "ponzi" and "pyramid" and "scamming" have lost their meaning to some degree but "wire fraud" and "fraud" have NOT! Nor have the penalties for it.
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03-25-2017, 05:48 PM
#8804
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
shipdit
Hmm. An internet marketing/slumlord "millionaire" paying only £360 a month in child support? Methinks Sunil Patel is either hiding money up his nostrils or "fudging his personal success a bit" when he brags online.
Originally Posted by
laidback
YEp! And since courts usually require documentation and verification...!
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
360 in child support....And SCAMil claims he is a multi-millionaire????
SCAMil Patel showed his income tax form a few months ago. He only payed 7000 in income tax in that crackpot video about why he wasn't under SEC jurisdiction.
I would be surprised if that pansy makes 6 figures. It's to bad he couldn't get paid per crackpot lie. He would be a billionaire.
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
But....but Sunil.....you are an internet millionaire.....made shedloads in TM....and in property...........buying a Bentley should be easy-peasy for you; why would you need a bank loan?
I'm confused.
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
So Sunil is looking to buy a new pimp car.
Originally Posted by
laidback
OR, he wants people to think he's buying a new car...kinda like those pretendy check thingys!
Sunil Patel needs to decide if he's on an average working joe's salary and should be paying £360/month in child support or whether he is a multi-millionaire real estate mogul who should be paying a lot more.
In this video he has posted to both his Traffic Monsoon Sunil Facebook page and his Youtube account, he appears to have told a purported BBC reporter that he has real estate holdings worth over £4,000,000. Assuming he can net 5% income from those holdings (typical, if not conservative for real estate) he should have an income of at least £200,000 per year. No family court on the planet would let him get away with paying out only £4,320 in child support with an income like that.
Published on Mar 17, 2017
"Hi Friends i will be filmed on Saturday 25th March 2017 speaking about my journey to becoming a self-made Millionaire. The Interview Video will be released in April"
0:37
"He now has a huge portfolio, net worth four million pounds"
In this video, he states:
11:00
"I've run out of cash completely, I'm 60,000 pounds in credit cards and overdraft debt at the moment"
Which is it, Sunil? Prince or pauper?
Does anyone know his ex-wife or her solicitor's name? Those child support guideline worksheets work on a pretty simple formula with no wiggle-room.
Does anyone know if this BBC-online reporter Toyin Davidson-Ero knows that Sunil Patel was convicted of defrauding the Councils of both Hounslow and Ealing of £33,686 after claiming for a number of different benefits to which he was not entitled?
Does anyone know if this BBC-online reporter Toyin Davidson-Ero knows that Sunil Patel was convicted at Hammersmith Magistrates’ Court of forcing tenants in a property in White City "to live in a ‘house of horrors’ with mould on the walls, broken smoke alarms, faulty electrics, a missing letterbox letting in draughts, faulty central heating, broken laminate flooring and a missing carpet" for which he was given an 18-month conditional discharge and ordered to pay costs of more than £8,600?
http://www.propertypillars.co.uk/
SD
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Last edited by shipdit; 03-25-2017 at 06:02 PM.
"No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people" - H. L. Mencken
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03-26-2017, 08:00 AM
#8805
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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To follow up on my post above, it looks like Sunil Patel may be confused about who works for the BBC and who doesn't.
Toyin Davidson-Ero "has served professionally as a Property Litigation Legal Executive for over 17 years" and is "the Host/founder of Property Pillars". It appears she is attempting to broaden her own entrepreneurial motivations by running the website. Unless they have other interviews already in the can, the Sunil Patel interview will be their first content.
Ms. Davidson-Ero lists the following on her Property Pillars team:
Mr Nigel Spinks
Professional Videography and Editing
Mr Gyles Buckle
Digital Marketing Specialist (post production)
Mr Tunji Bada, Freelance
Digital Content Producer
A fledgling website wouldn't be outsourcing their production to the BBC, would they?
Any small-time slumlords who need their ego boosted may apply to be interviewed by Toyin Davidson-Ero here.
SD
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"No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people" - H. L. Mencken
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03-26-2017, 08:11 AM
#8806
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
you really didn't expect any truth did you? I would bet it's one of his marks.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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03-26-2017, 08:15 AM
#8807
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
You can let them know they are about to embarrass themselves / destroy their credibility by featuring a convicted slum lord.
Contact us - Property Pillars With Toyin
Include this link
Court fines allow council to come after dodgy landlords - Get West London
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03-26-2017, 10:01 AM
#8808
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
What's the old saying
"If you can't do the time, don't do the crime"
How about this, Silly Sunil,
Instead of blaming "haters" how about you admit the truth, both to yourself and your victims ???
You were warned, and chose to ignore the warnings.
How much have you cost your victims, Sunil ????
Hundreds of thousands ????
Millions ???
Instead of apologising and trying to make amends all you continue to do is rationalize, justify and lay blame everywhere except where it belongs.
Scoville did it and you and others like you enabled him to do so.
End of.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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03-26-2017, 10:37 AM
#8809
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
You can also include the results of Google search- Sunil C Patel and scam.
https://www.google.com/search?q=suni...obile&ie=UTF-8
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
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03-26-2017, 12:04 PM
#8810
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
One can only hope that the sweet smell of comeuppance is at hand...can "the Nose" handle it?
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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03-26-2017, 02:46 PM
#8811
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Touching, really.....
TM 119 Mar 17.jpg
.....or not, depending on your point of view.
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03-26-2017, 02:57 PM
#8812
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
soooooooooo close
monsoon scam1h.JPG
moron
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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03-26-2017, 02:59 PM
#8813
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
It is Mother's Day in England, but definitely not even close here. Sharley and the judge would not be celebrating. Doh!!!
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03-27-2017, 12:25 PM
#8814
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Well Dazbo, Shazbo and Sunil know what the answer is.
A crypto version of Traffic Monsoon!!
TM 120 Mar 17.jpg
What a great idea, eh?? How about it Charles??
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03-27-2017, 12:32 PM
#8815
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
How about it Charles??
Do you think he'll have enough time on visiting day to organize it ???
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03-27-2017, 12:54 PM
#8816
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
If you are interested in Sunil Patel as landlord, try this:-
Return of Deposit [Archive] - LandlordZONE Forums
One "Sunil Patel", a landlord, is asking whether he has to return a tenant's deposit four years after she left his property. In the UK, a landlord must protect a tenant's deposit in something called a "tenancy deposit scheme", but here Sunil is saying that as this happened before deposit scheme was introduced "surely I can deduct from the deposit as I see fit"?
Er.....no, you cannot, actually. If you want to do that, you have to tell the tenant why you are making deductions and how much, and give them chance to dispute them. You cannot just keep their money and hope they'll go away.....as these people on the forum point out:-
SP 2 Mar 17.jpg
Dear Sunil. Such a shining light he is! Of course we do not know this is the SAME Sunil Patel, but I'm kind of guessing it is.
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03-27-2017, 01:45 PM
#8817
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
If you are interested in Sunil Patel as landlord, try this:-
Return of Deposit [Archive] - LandlordZONE Forums
One "Sunil Patel", a landlord, is asking whether he has to return a tenant's deposit four years after she left his property. In the UK, a landlord must protect a tenant's deposit in something called a "tenancy deposit scheme", but here Sunil is saying that as this happened before deposit scheme was introduced "surely I can deduct from the deposit as I see fit"?
Er.....no, you cannot, actually. If you want to do that, you have to tell the tenant why you are making deductions and how much, and give them chance to dispute them. You cannot just keep their money and hope they'll go away.....as these people on the forum point out:-
SP 2 Mar 17.jpg
Dear Sunil. Such a shining light he is! Of course we do not know this is the SAME Sunil Patel, but I'm kind of guessing it is.
LOL,What are the odds, right?
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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03-27-2017, 04:43 PM
#8818
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
If Sunil was the great businessman he claims to be, he would know the answer to his own question. The mere fact he doesn't shows he is not the astute and successful businessman he claims to be. The only thing he is successful at is stealing from others and his tenants.
Sunil doesn't require "haters" to destroy his reputation when he has accomplished it with his own words.
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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03-27-2017, 06:56 PM
#8819
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
It's just not like the old days where you can lose people a million and slip into the night.
Disgraceful that Patel cost people 1M.JPG
Mee-thinks its high past time for Sunil to own up to his messes. (PLURAL)
DAMN HATERS.JPG
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03-28-2017, 02:08 AM
#8820
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
The more Charles keeps going on and on and on and on about how TM is not a Ponzi, the SEC got it wrong as you were not investing in TM but buying advertising reminds me of the Dinar Guru's still claiming the Dinar is going to revaluate at any moment; and they've been saying that for 7 years now.
More like 11-12 years.....Thread at talkgold is from like 2005-6...
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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03-28-2017, 06:09 AM
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03-28-2017, 06:50 AM
#8822
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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03-28-2017, 07:16 AM
#8823
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
If it weren't so serious, the faithfulls' reaction to Scovilles' post would be funny:
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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03-28-2017, 10:01 AM
#8824
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Has anyone told Michael Banks aka Happy Days Goldfinder that he stole money from people in Traffic Monsoon who do live in the United States?
Traffic_Monsoon_Updates.png
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03-28-2017, 10:14 AM
#8825
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
Has anyone told Michael Banks aka Happy Days Goldfinder that he stole money from people in Traffic Monsoon who do live in the United States?
Like it would make any difference.
The guy's a non discriminatory thief - he'll steal money from anyone, no matter which country they're from.
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