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04-06-2017, 12:50 AM
#9026
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
On top of the fact Judge Parrish didn't say any such thing in her final judgement, in fact saying the complete opposite, Scoville has rocks in his head if he believes either the Morrison or Dodd-Franks decisions or legislation permit fraudsters to establish and run from within the USA as long as only overseas investors are involved.
When will we see the headlines "USA BECOMES INTERNATIONAL CENTER OF PONZI AND PYRAMID FRAUD"
Umm, Not ever.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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04-06-2017, 04:34 PM
#9027
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Chirley has filled his diaper again.
Todays filibuster brings in Amway among the usual repeated themes.
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04-06-2017, 07:02 PM
#9028
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Comments are a long but hilarious read.
Chirley rants and raves in extremis.
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
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04-06-2017, 08:09 PM
#9029
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
Charles thinks he should get credit for being "in a whole different mindset" within the traffic exchange Ponzi scheme "industry"...
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04-06-2017, 08:28 PM
#9030
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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04-06-2017, 10:29 PM
#9031
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
IF Sharley had some facts to regurgitate it would be refreshing, but he keeps spewing the same tiring irrelevant effluvia! Now he's comparing himself to Amway and Texas AG Paxton ? Will he ever realize that what he defines as a ponzi is irrelevant, it is what the court defines as a ponzi that counts?
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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04-07-2017, 02:04 AM
#9032
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
laidback
IF Sharley had some facts to regurgitate it would be refreshing, but he keeps spewing the same tiring irrelevant effluvia! Now he's comparing himself to Amway and Texas AG Paxton ? Will he ever realize that what he defines as a ponzi is irrelevant, it is what the court defines as a ponzi that counts?
To answer your question laidback, NO!
EagleOne
Author: "Robbing You With A Keyboard Instead Of A Gun - Cyber Crime How They Do It" available in soft cover and eBook at Amazon.com
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04-07-2017, 11:02 AM
#9033
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The time is nigh for Scoville to quit the jailhouse lawyer shtick and prep for his commissary filling duties as honey dipper.
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Because Amway has a product meant for consumption and/or resale requiring effort to profit it isn't viewed as an investment, let's explore. First perhaps we look at the test for a Pyramid Scheme using the Koscot Test as applied to Traffic Monsoon.
Originally Posted by
"Koscot Test" (for pyramid schemes)
It can be roughly summarized as follows:
The participant makes a payment of money to the company;
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In exchange, the participant receives the right to sell a product (or service);
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In exchange, the participant receives compensation for recruiting others into the program;
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The compensation is unrelated to the sale of products (or services) to the ultimate user.
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To be judged a pyramid scheme, the scheme must have all four elements.
Traffic Monsoon earned four ✔️s. But but but a Ponzi and a Pyramid Stacy would ejaculate if he were still here playing the dupe. Sorry Kids.
Originally Posted by
"Howey Test" (for to determine an investment as applied to Amway)
It is an investment of money
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There is an expectation of profits from the investment
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The investment of money is in a common enterprise
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Any profit comes from the efforts of a promoter or third party
Amway fails the fourth test under Howey as the affiliate must either resell the product they have purchased or recruit others to purchase yet more product for them to make money. No one buys Inauguration Bundle. Item #: 259234. Retail Price: $338.45. and expects that magically it matures in sixty days for $500. (Which would be more like Traffic Monsoon Ad Packs)
This is not so say I think the MLM model is a great one unless someone has a knack for endlessly recruiting others and can stomach that 95%+++ of their downline is destined to lose money. Recruiting however is not a "passive" activity as Scoville portrays, in fact to the contrary which is why so many lose in these schemes.
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04-07-2017, 11:18 AM
#9034
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Looks as if Weird Willy Bryant is about to get a lesson in the realities of life as a ponzi pimp in the aftermath of the prosecution of a "next-big-thing" scam / scheme
Statistical anomaly or are the sheep victims being forced to face reality ???
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04-07-2017, 11:30 AM
#9035
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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04-07-2017, 12:40 PM
#9036
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Stacey is in my paying ads now. Hes posted in MPA thread in MMG.
Further proof- trash is gonna act like trash...regardless.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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04-07-2017, 02:54 PM
#9037
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
Stacey is in my paying ads now. Hes posted in MPA thread in MMG.
Further proof- trash is gonna act like trash...regardless.
His last post at MMG was on Feb 17,2017, so you can basically list him as MIA!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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04-07-2017, 04:44 PM
#9038
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I reached out to him and he responded. He told me he was done, well at least for now, with any programs. So don't expect to see him back until he changes his mind. In his mind TM is not a Ponzi, and NOTHING is going to change his mind.
EagleOne
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04-07-2017, 09:14 PM
#9039
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Sometimes the best wake-up calls cost you your life-savings!
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04-08-2017, 02:46 AM
#9040
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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What I find funniest about this, is that people in these schemes seem to have the universal aim of giving up the day job. They dream of living off their online "earnings".
Yet here they are pleading with people who have day jobs to help bail Chazza out!
Presumably they don't see the irony of the situation.
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04-08-2017, 01:29 PM
#9041
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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04-08-2017, 02:11 PM
#9042
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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04-08-2017, 02:20 PM
#9043
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Charles refuses to accept the fact that "the Court found that Traffic Monsoon, LLC operated as a Ponzi scheme"...
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04-08-2017, 04:36 PM
#9044
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
Charles Scoville's posts are going to be prohibited from being displayed due to their unfortunate side effect of turning readers into slabs of granite.
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04-08-2017, 04:49 PM
#9045
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
I don't know if I feel like this.....
Or this.......
When I read this.....
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04-08-2017, 05:30 PM
#9046
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
I don't know if I feel like this.....
Or this.......
When I read this.....
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Charles Scoville, ethically and morally in the same sentence? I don't think so!
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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04-08-2017, 07:42 PM
#9047
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Sunil can't decide which side he's on...
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04-08-2017, 08:01 PM
#9048
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
Honor among thieves?
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04-08-2017, 08:13 PM
#9049
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
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Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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04-08-2017, 11:07 PM
#9050
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
Sunil can't decide which side he's on...
See what happens when people spend too much time reading "The Secret" and similar books and start to believe they can somehow alter reality with positive thinking and focusing on what they want, rather than what's actually happening.
None of them seem to realize, none of the huffing and puffing, beach protests, petitions or thousands of Facebook posts has made the slightest bit of difference to the (entirely predictable) outcome.
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