Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

Originally Posted by E2014T

Excuses and rationalizations. Do you want me to point out posts where you said you only promote programs that use Paypal or can you find them yourself?

Yes mpa right now is dead so i will not promote it and or mess with it since Paypal is changing their terms to not be able to include any ad rev share programs.. The way the new terms read neobux is not supported either.. The monsoon is taking a different approach. They are not under review . not limited charles is Telling us he is setting up a better payment arrangement than paypal is. I see it as a step up . most of you guys are telling me that paypal is no guide for legitimacy. I will believe that anf ask will a real bank and or visa debit card be a more legitimate way to judge a business vs one that only uses payment processors. If we do only get to use payza and stp and the bank is bullshit then yes i will leave tm and not promote it at all..

Forget about TM, forget about Charles. Yes, it's a nice scam and if you want to be a player it's a not a bad choice to ride it out. But you don't want to be player, right? Or do you?

Originally Posted by E2014T

Forget about TM, forget about Charles. Yes, it's a nice scam and if you want to be a player it's a not a bad choice to ride it out. But you don't want to be player, right? Or do you?

I just took mpa off my mmg signature .. And yes i will ride it out but i never have considered myself as a online marketer or player as you call it ..
I figured the ponzi police would be rejoicing today . funny thing is if the bank and debit card does happen i see it as a step in the right direction.. Ive always heard that credit card companies like visa and mastercard dont allow money games or ponzis.. We shall see how they view the monsoon.

Originally Posted by stacy532

And yes i will ride it out but i never have considered myself as a online marketer or player as you call it.

If you ride it out from this point on, player you already are. Now let's see if you want to be a pimp on top of it. Are you going to continue to promote it?

Not until the bank stuff is sorted out .. No i wont .. People will have no way to buy services unless they have payza and stp and anyone with those processors. That wants to be in the monsoon already is so no point. ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

. Ive always heard that credit card companies like visa and mastercard dont allow money games or ponzis.. We shall see how they view the monsoon.

Remember Banners Broker had a "Mastercard" (it really helped to reel the suckers in) and look how that turned out.

Originally Posted by stacy532

funny thing is if the bank and debit card does happen i see it as a step in the right direction

Definitely a step in the right direction for Charles. He needs to get money out of Paypal, Payza, and STP. STP most likely won't let him do it and force him to payout the balance to members. Paypal may or may not let him do it. That leaves Payza. How much he got there?

Originally Posted by E2014T

Definitely a step in the right direction for Charles. He needs to get money out of Paypal, Payza, and STP. STP most likely won't let him do it and force him to payout the balance to members. Paypal may or may not let him do it. That leaves Payza. How much he got there?

Did u watch the videos ?
He shows 37 million in paypal
250k in payza
And 35k i think it was in stp

https://youtu.be/THV9AiCnYdY

Originally Posted by stacy532

Did u watch the videos ?

No, what for? I'm not in the scam to worry about it too much and you'll tell us everything anyways.

Lol well im glad to have been so helpful ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

How can i prove anything is legit ? I cant

If you can't you have no business giving investing advice!

Originally Posted by stacy532

It either is or it is not .

Simple really...

Originally Posted by stacy532

He shows 37 million in paypal
250k in payza

Let's say 10% out-exchange rate, that's 225K he made in admin fees for a fact. The big question is what happens to 37 million, but this is up to Paypal now.

Originally Posted by stacy532

He shows 37 million in paypal

Where is the video with independent confirmation of how much he owes?




He provided some investors with false account statements to mislead them into believing they were profiting by investing their money with him.

https://www.sec.gov/News/PressReleas.../1370541869072

Peister had sent fictitious account statements to investors - Even the auditors got a does from this guy.
See more at: September 2015 Ponzi Scheme Roundup


He sent out account statements by mail

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madoff_investment_scandal

Segal allegedly created fictitious account statements and other fake documents purporting to show the missing funds had been transferred back into the customer's account.
SEC Charges Malcolm Segal with $15m Ponzi Scheme Selling Fake CDs, Unrealistic Interest Rate

You gotta feel a little bit sorry for stacy532.

He's locked into defending Scoville and Traffic Monsoon when he knows, we know and even the local stray dogs know Traffic Monsoon has been busted and it's all over, bar the shouting.

Originally Posted by stacy532

Not until the bank stuff is sorted out .. No i wont ..

How much do you owe your current downline? They are going to be screaming for their money soon.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

You gotta feel a little bit sorry for stacy532.

Not a little, a lot. He is the only player in town that pays his downline back. This isn't going to end well for him.

If you used PayPal for withdrawals, you'll be able to gain access to your funds with Payza instead during this transition.

This is money laundering.

We do recommend that you start using Payza for purchases for now

Of course you do. This is the only one you know for a fact you can cash out.

Originally Posted by E2014T

How much do you owe your current downline? They are going to be screaming for their money soon.

551$ total referral comissions only owe april about 170$ been giving her 10$ a week i paid the other ones in 100% on day 1 . she spent 350$ i gave her 100$ on her first day back .. Thank you for your concern ..

Originally Posted by E2014T

This is money laundering.

Of course you do. This is the only one you know for a fact you can cash out.

He is expecting to place 9 million from PayPal to payza so all that can use payza withdraw until the cards go out.. He is exchanging it i guess.. They programmed a way to add payza live to our dashboard..

Originally Posted by E2014T

Let's say 10% out-exchange rate, that's 225K he made in admin fees for a fact. The big question is what happens to 37 million, but this is up to Paypal now.

If you watch the video none of those accounts he is logged into limited or frozen ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

He is expecting to place 9 million from PayPal to payza so all that can use payza withdraw until the cards go out.. He is exchanging it i guess.. They programmed a way to add payza live to our dashboard..

Thanks for the numbers, but it doesn't change the fact that when he accepts the deposit via one payment processor and allows withdrawal via another one, he is acting as an unlicensed exchanger. Exchanging e-currencies without a license is illegal in the U.S. and constitutes money laundering. The way around it is to screw the U.S. members and process everyone else.

Originally Posted by stacy532

If you watch the video none of those accounts he is logged into limited or frozen ..

I didn't say they were limited. I said what is likely to happen when he attempts to cash out his STP account. Paypal I have no idea about. They might be stupid enough to let him cash out 37 million or they might not be.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

Remember Banners Broker had a "Mastercard" (it really helped to reel the suckers in) and look how that turned out.

Loads of them had a MasterCard or Visa. I remember people claiming Bob Krimm's programs had to be legal if they issued cards.

If scammers try this on and you want to ask your bank some questions, it is important to ask your bank which of their branches specialize in online transactions because the ordinary people behind the counter do not have much to do with online transactions. I know that the right branch to ask if you bank with NatWest, Is Royal Bank of Scotland in Leeds.

It's premature to discuss the cards. There might not be any cards. If Paypal lets Charles cash out 37 million, he'd be stupid to drag it out any longer.

Take a look at some of them comments here, and how people think they have been scammed, yes you have!. And that Simon Church always has an answer, mind a load of rubbish it is! lol

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spash2k9 7 hours ago
So now no paypal no notice? All my moneys in traffic monsoon?
I cant get work i cant pay bills
i opened traffic monsoon to take money out weekly to stop being skint

Can i take out all my money whenever i want with payza?
Why do i have to pay money in first?
Can i just get all my money back i put in - money i took out as i cannot afford to not be able to get work tomorrow :|''

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyb7LmUcCVw