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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gqh...3ehzmvlftz45hw

    This video, i commented about TM been a scam and ill show some of the 'responses' from an individual, same old same old. Ive found out you cannot convince these people once they get brainwashed with rubbish!

    +wayne tew didn't you ******* read what I said ? and yeah my cash has gone upto 35 dollars now btw �� ******* dumb **** �� and a friend of mine made 51k �� don't call it scam just because you're too much of a pussy to try it

    +wayne tew and for the record my friend only invested about 140 from what I know..and he's earned 51k from it �� SUCH A SCAM �� ..dumbass

    have you actually done it ? I realised anyone who talks negative. .has never actually done it lmao I started this business two three days ago and my cash has already gone upto 28 dollars so yeah ..'scam' ennih ? just because you're too scared to try something new ..don't misguide others

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne1983 View Post
    Ive found out you cannot convince these people once they get brainwashed with rubbish!
    Most of the time you would have more success explaining to a 4 year old why Santa's job is logistically impossible.

    Someone may have made $50,000 recruiting suckers to pump $500,000 into this Ponzi scam. Hell drop off $500k at my place, I'll let you keep $50K no questions asked. The endless recruiting is where Traffic Monsoon quickly falls apart as a legitimate business. Scoville pays $5 in commission for each $50 Ad Pack the recruiter encourages a mark to purchase. That pack allegedly matures for $55 after the sucker clicks a few ads. Meaning for every pack $50 pack purchased, Charles owes $60, the more sold the deeper in debt he goes. Of course blah blah blah revenue streams pay for this decadence say the pimps.

    If TM really had sufficient external revenue to pay people to click: Scoville could skip the recruiter and their commission, skip the $50 sucker infusion, and simply pay people that sign up on the website $5 for clicking their ads. The return is exactly the same and without wasting money on needless commissions is better for the business. Constant cash deposits are necessary to give the illusion that folks are earning as packs mature. Once recruiting dries up this will go the way of all the other ad clicking scams.


    Current Model $500,000 pumped in

    $50,000 paid to recruiter
    $500,000 that serves no purpose (other than keeping the scam alive of course)
    $550,000 allegedly returned when the clicking is done (why ask for $500k if you are giving it right back)

    Direct Sign up Model
    $0 Paid to the recruiter, what the hell do we need them for?
    $0 Put in by the clickers, why do they have to pay to earn? We allegedly have external advertisers that for that.
    $50,000 paid when the clicking is done, same return as above without all the Ponzi foolishness.

    I am pretty certain if Charles Scoville offered this model word would spread making Youtube videos and payment proofs on MMG unnecessary. Sadly this would require Traffic Monsoon to be a real business.




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    Now come on folks. TM is the real deal. I can prove it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNRt...ature=youtu.be

    I mean if it is on the Internet it has to be true, right?
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    What Imy also wants you to believe is that after only 3 months in the business, he is making 31,000 pounds per month (video of Jan 2015). One has to wonder why it took him another 6 months to get to his proclaimed 60,000 pounds per month? He should have been at 90,000 pounds by July, not 60,000 pounds. Guess that was too big of a number for people to believe.
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    A few of us have launched a new Facebook page tonight: Traffic Monsoon Scam. Please come over and 'like' us!
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    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    Putting aside any questions about legality and talking only about the HYIP ponzi "scene"
    Anyone who has been around the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums for more than five minutes will tell you to never, ever, ever join any rebound ponzi such as Traffic Monsoon which is attempting to hitch a ride on the coat tails of something like My Advertising Pays.

    They are NEVER as successful as the original and they NEVER last anywhere near as long

    Anyone who believes what the ponzi pimps are telling them and joins Traffic Monsoon might as well save themselves a lot of time and trouble by ripping up their money and flushing it down the toilet.
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    Here's the latest defense by Charles of his Ponzi, and I quote from MMG:

    "Let's be logical, reasonable, and tune our minds towards a more realistic and professional view

    Condemning a company simply because they encourage sales is to judge every business that exists.

    Look at any business with sales affiliates, associates, or representatives, then you obviously will see them encourage their sales force to sell more so the sales reps will earn more.

    That's normal for business, and only seen as a bad thing for non-business minded individuals who don't understand working for an income.

    TrafficMonsoon does not require a purchase for anyone to start earning as an affiliate. There's no membership fee, no subscriptions, no start-up business package people are required to buy. Anyone can sign up FREE, and start earning. They can also earn referring other FREE members who simply click on ads.

    Commissions are only paid on the services sold. There is no "recuiting" bonus, or commissions for "recruiting" -- no one is paid simply to bring people into the business, but only paid when someone they refer buys a service, or clicks on the paid-to-click ads.

    If someone is in business to earn more money, then learning sales is a natural and legal way to earn more in that business. If selling and working harder does not result in an increased income, then it would shoot up a red flag.. but since TrafficMonsoon does reward a greater income to those who work and sell more of the ad services. So what exactly is the problem?

    TM is not a get rich quick program.

    Sharing revenues exists, and is only designed to reward clickers for the value they bring to TrafficMonsoon by sharing revenues with the clickers. The amounts shared only come after services are sold, and after the revenues have been held by the company a minimum of 24 hours.

    The services stand alone. Those who buy the services receive a true service priced lower compared with many other advertising services online.

    Example: $30 for 1000 image impressions (not visitors) on TheAtlantic.com
    Sounce: https://buysellads.com/buy/detail/253571

    Ad services on Traffic Monsoon hold true value for buyers. Anyone can buy the services without participating in earning money from Traffic Monsoon, and receive a service appropriately priced, and at cost savings over many other ad sites which exist all across the internet. There's no scam when you fully recognize the services being offered, and the actual value they hold.

    TrafficMonsoon is ranked #1 among these 3 rank sites, and hold high value among internet marketers all around the world.

    Best Manual Exchanges on Traffic Exchange List
    Rapid Downline Top 10 Traffic Exchanges
    Affiliate Marketing Toolbox

    Yes, TrafficMonsoon offers above standard advertising services which connect people's offers with potential customers.
    Yes, TrafficMonsoon offers an income for those who sell the services.
    Yes, TrafficMonsoon offers an income for those who refer free members to click on ads.
    Yes, TrafficMonsoon rewards cash to those who click on ads which deliver the services paid for.

    People are only paid from the sales revenues, not any amount that exceeds the sales revenues generated. There's zero debt created. "


    And he did it with a straight face. He also posted it in the same color of font that I use at MMG. After all, imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Scoville
    Condemning a company simply because they encourage sales is to judge every business that exists
    How a real business exits.

    I went out this morning for a double skinny half calf latte xtra foam and was charged $5. Was given said drink, paid for it and left.

    How Coffee Monsoon Operates

    I went out this morning for a double skinny half calf latte xtra foam and was charged $5. Was given said drink, paid for it, used the store's free wifi, toilet, pestered other patrons about deals I am working on, toilet again, and after I finished my double skinny half calf latte xtra foam I took the empty cup back to the register and the young lady gleefully gave me $5.50.

    I said to her crikey girl with the nose ring and hot tats how ever do you stay in business, she said we make it up in volume by encouraging others to recruit people like yourself. Then something about capitalism, but all that went right over my head.




    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Scoville
    People are only paid from the sales revenues, not any amount that exceeds the sales revenues generated. There's zero debt created. "
    Bullshit, there is $10 "debt" needlessly created for each pack sold.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Here's the latest defense by Charles of his Ponzi, and I quote from MMG:

    "Let's be logical, reasonable, and tune our minds towards a more realistic and professional view

    Condemning a company simply because they encourage sales is to judge every business that exists.

    Look at any business with sales affiliates, associates, or representatives, then you obviously will see them encourage their sales force to sell more so the sales reps will earn more.

    That's normal for business, and only seen as a bad thing for non-business minded individuals who don't understand working for an income.

    TrafficMonsoon does not require a purchase for anyone to start earning as an affiliate. There's no membership fee, no subscriptions, no start-up business package people are required to buy. Anyone can sign up FREE, and start earning. They can also earn referring other FREE members who simply click on ads.

    Commissions are only paid on the services sold. There is no "recuiting" bonus, or commissions for "recruiting" -- no one is paid simply to bring people into the business, but only paid when someone they refer buys a service, or clicks on the paid-to-click ads.

    If someone is in business to earn more money, then learning sales is a natural and legal way to earn more in that business. If selling and working harder does not result in an increased income, then it would shoot up a red flag.. but since TrafficMonsoon does reward a greater income to those who work and sell more of the ad services. So what exactly is the problem?

    TM is not a get rich quick program.

    Sharing revenues exists, and is only designed to reward clickers for the value they bring to TrafficMonsoon by sharing revenues with the clickers. The amounts shared only come after services are sold, and after the revenues have been held by the company a minimum of 24 hours.

    The services stand alone. Those who buy the services receive a true service priced lower compared with many other advertising services online.

    Example: $30 for 1000 image impressions (not visitors) on TheAtlantic.com
    Sounce: https://buysellads.com/buy/detail/253571

    Ad services on Traffic Monsoon hold true value for buyers. Anyone can buy the services without participating in earning money from Traffic Monsoon, and receive a service appropriately priced, and at cost savings over many other ad sites which exist all across the internet. There's no scam when you fully recognize the services being offered, and the actual value they hold.

    TrafficMonsoon is ranked #1 among these 3 rank sites, and hold high value among internet marketers all around the world.

    Best Manual Exchanges on Traffic Exchange List
    Rapid Downline Top 10 Traffic Exchanges
    Affiliate Marketing Toolbox

    Yes, TrafficMonsoon offers above standard advertising services which connect people's offers with potential customers.
    Yes, TrafficMonsoon offers an income for those who sell the services.
    Yes, TrafficMonsoon offers an income for those who refer free members to click on ads.
    Yes, TrafficMonsoon rewards cash to those who click on ads which deliver the services paid for.

    People are only paid from the sales revenues, not any amount that exceeds the sales revenues generated. There's zero debt created. "


    And he did it with a straight face. He also posted it in the same color of font that I use at MMG. After all, imitation is the greatest form of flattery.
    should tell him to rename it traffic baboon since even a primate like himself can make excuses.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    Facebook putting its foot down on referral links, for the life of me I can't understand why these folks shouldn't be able to advertise their scam for free?

    Facebook Blocking Links.JPG

    Oh and affiliates, your public comments will no longer be needed or dare I say allowed.

    Affiliate comments no longer welcome.JPG
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    Haha , on that youtube video i posted earlier on this thread, where i got slated for saying TM was a scam, and i see this comment lol!

    'There support team sucks. I've been trying to get an issue resolved for days now. Account being blocked and scammed out of my $200 I purchased with ad packs, cant access my account.'

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne1983 View Post
    Haha , on that youtube video i posted earlier on this thread, where i got slated for saying TM was a scam, and i see this comment lol!

    'There support team sucks. I've been trying to get an issue resolved for days now. Account being blocked and scammed out of my $200 I purchased with ad packs, cant access my account.'
    I know where his $200 is.

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    Lol here was a convo snippet i took off mmg forum regards TM, so basically the person answering the question confirms its a ponzi by the statement!


    *'Lol of course. Im in tm for money and if the earning slows i quit and trust me. If i quit it, a lot of people will quit with me.
    But you know, im afraid because december arrives and so many people would like to withdraw and people dont invest in this period and so whats happen ?
    The problem will appear and tm will disappear'

    *'You posting like that will also speed up the demise, its better just do what you want to do and let others decide what happens later.'

    P.S is it me or is the mmg forum just full of scams, ponzi schemes etc, everything just looks scammers scamming everyone else lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by wayne1983 View Post
    Lol here was a convo snippet i took off mmg forum regards TM, so basically the person answering the question confirms its a ponzi by the statement!


    *'Lol of course. Im in tm for money and if the earning slows i quit and trust me. If i quit it, a lot of people will quit with me.
    But you know, im afraid because december arrives and so many people would like to withdraw and people dont invest in this period and so whats happen ?
    The problem will appear and tm will disappear'

    *'You posting like that will also speed up the demise, its better just do what you want to do and let others decide what happens later.'

    P.S is it me or is the mmg forum just full of scams, ponzi schemes etc, everything just looks scammers scamming everyone else lol
    MMG is not a scam, you are just negative and broke and want to discourage people from makin the big bucks!!!

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    Things have certainly gotten interesting over at MMG in the TM thread. Seems stacy did not like my example of TM's payment so he responded with this, and I quote:

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    can i ask you a very silly question ?
    how many legal business takes in 50$ and has more than 1$ profit from that sale?

    if a business sells lemonade, and lets say they sell 50$ Monday and they owe the person at the register 60$ that day for wages . and they only sale 50$ worth of lemonade every day that week and still owe this person 60$ each day . how long will they be able to sell lemonade?

    does this business wish they could pay her 1$ a day for 55 days and then be able to wait for more sales to come in to pay her wage ? which one would be a better scenario ? simple question . no diverting to yadda yadda ."


    No it was not a silly question it was an asinine question. Now stacy has trotted out that the $55 dollar payment at the end of 55 days is not guaranteed BS. Watch Charles not pay it and listen to all screaming from the members. This is more fun than a human being should be allowed to have.
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    Yeah, but stacy532 is a serial HYIP ponzi pimp, so he / she doesn't have to tell the truth, or anything even remotely like the truth or even make sense.

    The good thing about it is, Traffic Monsoon is a ponzi and MMG doesn't do "legitimate" so anyone debating with stacy532 can't lose in the long run, and everyone who believes him / her is going to be ripped off.

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    Most people when they find themselves in a hole, they stop digging. Not stacy. Here's his latest brilliant knowledge and logic about TM, and I quote:

    "to quote your argument oh good grief who are you trying to prove that sharing revenue is illegal? yourself perhaps if he can afford to share money with us he does so. if he cant he does not . there is zero debt created.. zero

    when he puts a cap on earnings on a share pack you claim this is illegal? i never knew limits on things were illegal . when he shares money with us its after a purchase is made , that is like paying an employee a wage only after the employer sells a product .

    i think sales has this feature base salary plus commissions . which means you dont make anything unless you sell something kinda sounds familiar. what happened to your advertising arguments i was starting to like a few of them... lol "


    What is really scary is he believes this crap!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    should tell him to rename it traffic baboon since even a primate like himself can make excuses.
    I would have thought that most people who read Charles' defence of this program, could see the fact that asking or (worse still) paying people to click ads is a con. I have got Google Ads on my web site and blog. If I asked or paid people to click these, Google would terminate my account.

    Quote from the defence, that was supplied by Eagle.


    "TrafficMonsoon does not require a purchase for anyone to start earning as an affiliate. There's no membership fee, no subscriptions, no start-up business package people are required to buy. Anyone can sign up FREE, and start earning. They can also earn referring other FREE members who simply click on ads."


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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    What is really scary is he believes this crap!
    Nah,

    you know and I know and anyone who has been around the HYIP ponzi scene for more than five minutes knows he doesn't believe a word of it.

    He's a HYIP ponzi pimp.

    It's his job to confuse newbies with official sounding nonsense, but, it doesn't mean he believes a word of it.
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    And stacy's BS just keeps on coming, and I quote:

    "so your saying that sharing revenue is illegal if you dont like they way its shared ? hmmm so if he only gave us half our money back on the adpacks you would never post on this thread ? if he gave us 100% of our money back on the adpack purchase you would never have an issue?

    again i ask how is sharing money with someone a debt? lynndel ill sell you a beer i wish for you to drink this beer . if you drink this beer and spread the word for me about my great beer ill give you a free beer and some beer nuts the next time i see you. if i can afford to do this what is the problem with doing this? also i never said employers pay their salesman 110% the comparison is that in the monsoon if we help sell the advertising we get paid a commission . if a car salesman sells a car he gets paid a commission the amounts are moot point.

    remember he sells many other advertising services these services help to pay any potential "debt" that your worried about . some folks would call that outside income . at a gas station they sale gas . also they sale. 49 cent sodas . is the soda an outside source of income ? it must be a closed loop since your in the station when you buy it. lol

    so in the monsoon we buy an advertising share package which is a spot of eligibility we have paid for to allow us to receive a share in company revenue . he does not owe anything on the purchase we make its his item free and clear . so sharing all the money back on this item is very easy. so where would this profit come from ? other advertising services . you cant prove that it does not help pay the profit . we can however show proof that the other sales are made so any arguments you have are pure assumptions, and any arguments we make showing the outside sales are made are proof based on facts . thank you for proving your accusations are smoke and mirrors to help sell your book"
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    Geez,

    he / she is a dedicated li'l pimp, ain't he / she ??

    All this effort for a piss-ant, run of the mill, little ponzi no different than the squillion other piss ant run of the mill ponzis on the usual suspect forums.

    What a waste of HYIP ponzi pimp talent.
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    Maybe this stacy dude has a brother impersonating him to give his expert responses.

    That's what Steve Lawson would do.

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    Presenting Traffic Monsoons' trusted admin, Charles Scoville:





    Charles Scovilles' charles.scoville page on Facebook



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    I had to laugh, the following was posted by a certain person, who is in MAPS, TM, been in achieve and guess only knows how many scams. The guy himself lives in lala land lmao!

    I want to make money online like you do..
    but I do not want to spend any money or do anything.

    What you think this is never never land?

    Here let me give you some fairy dust : Think happy thoughts, fly away and do not come back until your grown up.

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