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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Come to think of it, I don't know the name of his wife who was the mother of their child. Does anyone know her name? I find it odd that in all the discussions about the women in his life, and marriages, he never mentioned her name.

    On the other hand, I am sure she doesn't want her name known as it would be too embarrassing for her.
    According to divorce records, Charles Scoville's first wife's name when they divorced on 11-19-2008 in Utah was Kelie Marie Scoville.
    I would assume that the Taylor Anden Scoville named in the receiver's subpoenas for banking records is Charles' son.

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    The usual full day of stupidity & carrying on in true Scamville fashion.

    Back to same old tired lies that he has been embarrassing himself with for a year +.
    He was homeless. Had to live with sister for 8 months-apartment rent was paid for a year.
    He had no car-car was paid off.
    He had no clothes- Receiver had no power or inclination to take his belongings.
    He had no $- $3 million + missing.
    Etc

    Claims his donation $ has run out.
    Claims he was on his way to kill himself but started smoking weed instead !!!!!
    Claims he and his mommy have "visions".

    https://www.facebook.com/charles.sco...5219946537717/
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    The usual full day of stupidity & carrying on in true Scamville fashion.

    Back to same old tired lies that he has been embarrassing himself with for a year +.
    He was homeless. Had to live with sister for 8 months-apartment rent was paid for a year.
    He had no car-car was paid off.
    He had no clothes- Receiver had no power or inclination to take his belongings.
    He had no $- $3 million + missing.
    Etc

    Claims his donation $ has run out.
    Claims he was on his way to kill himself but started smoking weed instead !!!!!
    Claims he and his mommy have "visions".

    https://www.facebook.com/charles.sco...5219946537717/
    Can't access the FB page. Hmm, Charles and also Ryan's pages I can't access. I guess they don't want me entertained or able to help them. You think they hated me or something.
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    Eagle.
    You can add a 2nd FB page off of yours easily. After logout, should give you option to add an acct.

    If you scam bust. One FB page for posting, one for just reading is a must.
    Pansy cowards like Charles cant stand to get called out on nonsense. They block.
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    I had the same problem viewing Ryan's Facebook profile yesterday. It was only temporary though. Facebook has been doing a major update for the past 3 weeks. Today is the first day that I can actually view my own news feed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    The usual full day of stupidity & carrying on in true Scamville fashion.
    It comes as no surprise to anyone that weed is involved.

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Since Charles has told his story, now I want to tell his story as he lived it from the beginning. First he was a faithful member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, AKA Mormons. Then while he was in Europe he denounced Mormonism and Jesus Christ and became a follower of Islam. During which time he married and divorced two Muslim women. Then after the SEC shut TM down, he came back to the US and then denounced Islam and Mormonism and said that the LDS Church was false teaching and converted to Christianity. Then after about 2-3 months, he then denounces Christianity and has become a follower of the LDS Church again; and proclaims it to be the true church of Jesus Christ. And all of this transpired in just 3 short years.

    I want to commend Charles for reading his story and using parts of 2 or 3 sermons preached by the late President of the LDS Church Thomas Monson in telling his story about his faith. You don't have to read it if it is your story. I do commend Charles on his acting skills as they are improving, but it was still acting. I kept thinking how many times did he practice this and how he was going to look before taping it? I also kept wondering about Charles and his Mom not having reconciled yet when he was telling his story. So much for his claim about forgiveness and how it has healed him. That's a biggie to leave out Charles. If you had, you would have mentioned her instead of your sister 3 times.

    At least you are getting the talk down. Now all you have to do is walk the talk, and that's the hard part.
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Why can't he join Jehovah's Witness and preach Armageddon which will wipe out everybody other than cult members. Seems like a good way of shutting us all up.

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Charles is a scammer, the only thing he believes is that he deserves your money more than you do, and that you should send some of it to him.

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Come to think of it, I don't know the name of his wife who was the mother of their child. Does anyone know her name? I find it odd that in all the discussions about the women in his life, and marriages, he never mentioned her name.

    On the other hand, I am sure she doesn't want her name known as it would be too embarrassing for her.
    She kicked him long ago to the curb. His life story here: TrafficMonsoon Hidden Money - Where to Find Wealth

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    Quote Originally Posted by AffiliateGuy View Post
    She kicked him long ago to the curb. His life story here: TrafficMonsoon Hidden Money - Where to Find Wealth
    Appreciate the link and as we all know Charles is a pathological liar, and this story confirms it. Seems to run in the family as we also suspected.

    Kudos to Shane and his assistance to the Receiver providing the other bank accounts Charles conveniently forgot to mention.

    We now know why Charles did not return to his 12-month paid up apartment in Utah, he chose to live with his sister. I think he was afraid he would have numerous "visitors" to his apartment he did not want to entertain. Wonder when he made his trip to Colorado to get his weed if he dropped in on mom and dad to say Hi and how's the fundraising going? It was amazing wasn't it how mom and dad always managed to come up with the shortfall from donations to cover the lawyers fees month after month. They also refused to provide any proof the dollar amounts they claimed were attorney fees were real. I have suspected all along that most of the money was used by Charles for his living expenses not legal fees. Now if they were doing both a civil and criminal defense, then these fees would be more in line but not for just a civil case.
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Shirley has just released this:

    'ORAL ARGUMENTS ANNOUNCED: Oral arguments for the Traffic Monsoon appeal will take place on March 21, 2018, at 9 a.m. in Courtroom III of the Byron White United States Courthouse at 1823 Stout Street, Denver, Colo. This is a great privilege and responsibility to be sure our attorneys can count on what they need to best present our side.
    See their strong arguments: https://scovillelegaldefensefund.wor.../court-docum…/

    Agreements to take no wage until after we win are still in place by two attorneys of three, not just one. However, legal expenses not covered by this agreement are expected to range from $10,000 to $15,000. These are expenses we must cover. Donations so far for the appeal expenses total $1,429.03. Whatever you donate will be gratefully accepted. Thank you in advance! Ways to donate can be found on my blog: https://scovillelegaldefensefund.wor.../how-to-dona…/

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    I tried the link above but it took me to a page that said: Page Not Found Apologies, but the page you requested could not be found. Perhaps searching will help

    Then I found the page and here's the active link for the news: https://scovillelegaldefensefund.wordpress.com/updates/
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    To save readers the trouble of having to go hunt for the riveting news:

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    To save readers the trouble of having to go hunt for the riveting news:

    At least it's finally shut him up for a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    At least it's finally shut him up for a bit
    Sadly it won't be long enough.
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    "See their strong arguments:"

    Like their main argument (Im paraphrasing) that its OK for a US resident using US banks to commit fraud if more members are outside the US than in the US? Laughable.

    Litigation privilege allows the attorney to put anything in a pleading regardless of how farcical but its has ZERO chance of not being laughed at come Mar 18th.

    At trial- less than a penny on each dollar from outside income by Scamville's own admission makes this a a SEC slam dunk.

    Clock is officially counting down on Charles.
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    ... Litigation privilege allows the attorney to put anything in a pleading regardless of how farcical ...
    "Truer words were never spoke"

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Can someone please explain the process for Oral Arguments?
    Both sides put their case to the Judge and then what? Will we get an instant Judgement or will we have to wait for the outcome?
    Thanks.

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    They are exactly as described.

    An opportunity for the lawyers or parties themselves to present oral arguments as to whether their argument should prevail


    Oral arguments are spoken to a judge or appellate court by a lawyer (or parties when representing themselves) of the legal reasons why they should prevail. Oral argument at the appellate level accompanies written briefs, which also advance the argument of each party in the legal dispute. Oral arguments can also occur during motion practice when one of the parties presents a motion to the court for consideration before trial, such as when the case is to be dismissed on a point of law, or when summary judgment may lie because there are no factual issues in dispute.
    Oral argument operates by each party in a case taking turns to speak directly to the judge or judges with an equal amount of time allotted to each. A party may often reserve part of their time to be used for rebuttal after their adversary has presented.

    Oral argument operates by each party in a case taking turns to speak directly to the judge or judges with an equal amount of time allotted to each. A party may often reserve part of their time to be used for rebuttal after their adversary has presented.

    So, it depends entirely on the Judge as to whether or not the arguments made are successful
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    It is common, in fact I think its normal, for the attorney while presenting oral arguments to be interrupted by questions from the bench, and they really don't get much time to present their case as much as they defend the case they attempted to make in the motions and record of the trial. Go back, if you can find it, and watch the oral arguments that were made to the Florida Supreme Court in the 2000 election recount cases that they heard. This is a pretty rare appeals court oral argument hearing that was shown on live television and I'd bet one of the only times most Americans have actually seen a proceeding of an appeals court.

    I thought when it was happening that it was unusual, but even SCOTUS (again, read the transcript of Bush V. Gore) barely lets the attorney for either side start talking before they stop them, mid sentence, and start asking questions. If you're not familiar with the practice, it almost sounds rude.

    So, I'm not a lawyer, and feel free attorneys to correct me if I'm wrong, but for the most part, appeals are decided in the greater part by the written motions and pleadings made before the actual oral arguments.

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    You're entirely correct in that oral arguments are normally made in support of written motions

    In Scovilles' defense team has asked for oral arguments citing following reasons:


    A. THE DISTRICT COURT LACKED SUBJECT MATTER
    JURISDICTION OVER THIS SECURITIES-FRAUD ACTION
    BECAUSE ADPACKS ARE NOT SECURITIES...............................4
    B. THE DISTRICT COURT ERRED BY CONCLUDING THAT
    TRAFFIC MONSOON’S TRAFFIC EXCHANGE IS A PONZI
    SCHEME............................................ .................................................. .6
    C. SECTION 10(b) DOES NOT APPLY EXTRATERRITORIALLY....9
    1. Morrison Explicitly Overruled the Conduct-and-Effects
    Test.............................................. ..............................................11
    2. The Prior Conduct-and-Effects Test Case Law is Irrelevant....12
    3. Section 10(b) is Clear and Does Not Require an
    Examination of Legislative History..........................................1 3
    4. Legislative Intent Cannot Be Gleaned From Statements of
    Individual Legislators. .................................................. ............14
    D. THE OTHER STATUTES ANALYZED BY THE DISTRICT
    COURT HAVE NO EFFECT UPON THE PRESUMPTION
    AGAINST THE EXTRATERRITORIAL APPLICATION OF
    SECTION 10(b). .................................................. ...............................15
    E. THIS COURT SHOULD NOT AFFORD THE SEC’S OWN
    INTERPRETATION ANY DEFERENCE......................................... 17
    F. ADPACK PURCHASES DO NOT SATISFY THE MORRISON
    TRANSACTIONAL TEST.

    G. THE COURT SHOULD REJECT THE RECEIVER’S AMICUS
    BRIEF AS AN ATTEMPT TO RAISE NEW ISSUES FOR THE
    FIRST TIME ON APPEAL WHICH OTHERWISE ONLY
    OFFERS DUPLICATIVE ARGUMENTS.......................
    As Gregg points out

    Presenting lawyers usually cannot get away with simply making speeches or reading their briefs when presenting oral argument to an appeal court.

    Unlike trial court procedure, where judges intervene only when asked by the parties to resolve objections, it is typical for judges at the appellate level to be active participants in oral argument, interrupting the presenting lawyers and asking questions.

    This is true even of courts that are formed of panels of multiple judges, such as the United States Supreme Court, where a presenting lawyer must be prepared to handle questions from any of the nine justices.It is also true that when a motion is made before or during trial that the lawyers conduct themselves before the judge in a manner similar to the presentation of the case on appeal, the lawyers present their arguments to the judge in a more conversational mode; in some pre-trial proceedings these appearances may not be recorded by court stenographers as they are invariably recorded in appellate proceedings.
    Cynics and long time observers of the HYIP ponzi scene would argue a request for oral arguments is often used as a delaying tactic, rather than for presenting valid arguments.

    But, there are no cynics here, so that isn't the case in this instance.
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    You're entirely correct in that oral arguments are normally made in support of written motions

    In Scovilles' defense team has asked for oral arguments citing following reasons:




    As Gregg points out



    Cynics and long time observers of the HYIP ponzi scene would argue a request for oral arguments is often used as a delaying tactic, rather than for presenting valid arguments.

    But, there are no cynics here, so that isn't the case in this instance.
    No cynics in scambusterland? Surely you jest!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    JUSTICE FOR CHARLES! HE'S AN INNOCENT MAN!

    And if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!

    CS 1 Jan 18.jpg CS 2 Jan 18.jpg

    Nah, just kidding!

    It AMAZES me how people seem to accept the sheer unmitigated bollox that he comes out with!

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    Ass Hat Charles must have gotten some $ from recent begging and reloaded on a fat sack of weed.
    Time to fill his diaper & cry for attention.

    Knowing his time is counting down, going to be a fun day of nitwit embarrassing himself claiming innocence & trying to change the subject with religious drivel and this:

    charlie scamville finds a more recent scam than hs scam.jpg
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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