Thread: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Central bank of Lithuania added Uinvest on the Public alert list:


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URL: https://www.lb.lt/u_eng

Is not that funny that a "payment processor" not incorporated anywhere, no MSB license anywhere, offering "Irrevocable and Anonymous" transactions
has an AML policy

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Uhmm,, Eugene, if you want Liberty Reserve's fame, you should not scam clients by sending them crapy magnetic stripe cards, pretending that those are real debit cards and are issued by a bank (which is easy to blame, because that bank was sanctioned and on the black lists for years), collecting from victims $10k each in deposits to get such cards, and after say "oops, bank blocked all those cards, and bank is criminal, see? it is on the black list" ,
well of course to get more suckers you had to give one single card that works to a girl with big mouth so she can see her $10k on it and withdraw max $200 a month, and she tells to the rest it works, and after a month you block her card too :)

Oh, yeah, you would also need to generate a demand for your currency (by running multiple exchanges yourself and emit the currency out of thin air) before pretending to be a processor , opening a website and calling yourself a processor hoping all exchanges will take your crap even at 99% discount is not enough :)


It is amazing how some victims still do not want to leave UInvest and curious to see how else an ukrainan criminal group will artistically scam them.
Stay with them if you want, you havent seen the best Ukrainian cons yet :)

Funny to see people in denial, and coming up with more excuses to keep their own hopes up.

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(from UI forum)

No, user13. You have to earn that privilege and try very hard to get on that SEC black list.
I know , I helped to put several on that list.
Why do you think UI announced that they will launch a new website under a new name and domain and not gonna take the debts with it
but launch the new "businesses" to invest to with cash?

Originally Posted by NikSam

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Other interesting thing that it says your investment went to Alung LTD, a Seychelles company....

Got a response on it, ALUNG LTD was never registered in Seychelles as a company.

Guess what ? this friday during the Management Chat. When it was annonced that some great business proposition will be offered to uinvestors.

"Dave Darrel" after talking awhile , introduced a guy, and that guy offered uinvestors to join his dumb endless recruiting pyramid portraying itself as some "MLM" which is an auction selling art - samsbid.com

More on this later .

Originally Posted by NikSam

Guess what ? this friday during the Management Chat. When it was annonced that some great business proposition will be offered to uinvestors.

"Dave Darrel" after talking awhile , introduced a guy, and that guy offered uinvestors to join his dumb endless recruiting pyramid portraying itself as some "MLM" which is an auction selling art - samsbid.com

More on this later .

I vaguely remember an "invest in virtual art " pyramid SCAM that was run online back in the early 2000s. It came out in the tidal wave of crap that followed the implosion of StockGeneration. I wish I could remember the name and details. It's always bothered me how the never-ending avalanche of SCAMS benefits the scammers by making so much of their history forgotten.

SD

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So , the opportunity "dave.darrel" of uinvest offered to investors is samsbid.com pyramid and an investing scheme (ponzi) which portrays itself as U.S. company running the art auctions.

Originally Posted by Uinvest Management Chat

samsbid: hi all! I'd like to present my project. First i'll explain and then you'll ask me questions. samsbid dot com is a project started by me and my partners several months ago. This is an online auction selling modern art. Some call it contemporary art. The auction lists items from artists and thanks to effective system of distribution sells the items to people from all over the world
There're many auctions, including those selling art. But our auction is special because :
- we have an expert in our team, he has been in business for many years selling art to rich guys here in States
- we applied the crowdfunding approach to the auction and every item can be bought by many people
- we use multilevel referral commission which can make it easy to sell
- we have strict hierarchy in our distribution system which allows one to create a nice income for years
- we pay passive income to holders of our items

If you come to the website you will see al of this explained but I want to explain the main point now - at crowdfunding websites you invest in businesses that may fail, Art never falls in value

Even if it doesn't sell during tough times its value doesn't drop a lot. Art cannot go bankrupt. You either have it or not. We studied best selling companies and took the winning strategy - direct sales and auction technology. Auction makes prices rock. Direct sales bring many people because everyone receives commission
Please make this room writeable. Thanks
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samsbid: My offer to uinvestors is to become tops of the tops now (for those who interested) and enjoy their commission from those guys who will join lter
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samsbid: if you don't like it is fine but as I said I offer you the same you have with uinvest but 100% legitimate in all countries, plus passive income plus enormous potential to make money.
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Bartek88D: Sam what is the min investment amount?
samsbid: $10

Bartek88D: i found already that ROI 7% monthly right?
samsbid: yes 7% monthly for 2 years, this gives you a piece of an item. It grows in value. So you can sell it higher. When it gets higher you make money, but as long as it grows you make 7% monthly
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samsbid: even if you don't recruit people. If you do - you earn much more. Yes sako. But my items are growing in price because it is art, not gold which drops in value
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samsbid: Fantasia, on the website I accept OKPAY,soon will connect pioneer credit cards and paypl
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samsbid: Bartek, it depends what you do. If you just sit and wait that will be passive income 7% monthly plus your item will grow in
price about 30-40% thats it
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samsbid: The most will earn those who recruit people and we pay 4-tier commission from referrals payments. Just put a link somewhere and see your profit grows

URLs:
https://forum.uinvest.com.ua/showthr...598#post128598
https://forum.uinvest.com.ua/showthr...599#post128599

this scam has been tried already.

This one still alive and I've just got this newsletter:

"Dear XXXXXXX,

Friday newsletter - a few events worth uinvestors' attention

Answers To Uinvestors' Questions Here!

Recently Uinvest has received a number of questions from our dear clients, and it was noticed that many of them were of the same sense. It was decided to arrange a question compilation, and send it to CEO, who could provide the most descriptive answers for uinvestors. The work is now done, and CEO is happy to share to have his letter published and be available to the whole Ucommunity. You are welcome to read the letter provided by following this link


Article of the week: Crowdfunding saved Timbuktu’s manuscripts. What’s next?

Woman who used modern means to protect ancient treasures wants to revolutionise funding of Africa’s cultural projects Timbuktu manuscripts

Thomas Gruner didn’t know Timbuktu was a real town when it was drawn to his attention by the hacker community. They had seen a campaign on the crowdfunding site Indiegogo called T160K to raise money to protect several hundred thousand historic manuscripts that had been evacuated from the al-Qaida-occupied north of Mali but were now at risk of rotting in the humid climate of the capital, Bamako.

Gruner, a young programmer from Olympia, Washington state, wanted to do his bit to help. So, naturally, he wrote a game. If visitors to the T160K web page played it, they could hold umbrellas over photographs of the rescued texts, many of which date to the time of the European middle ages. It was trivial but diverting.


A NEWSLETTER CONTEST !!!

We are happy to present the winners of the previous newsletter contest! Ladies and gentelmen, the winners, the first four uinvestors who gave the correct answer, were: Takahiro Hiroi,dinsto,Xiang, Koyejo Oduola



The correct answer:There are 1 honest and 99 liars







A contest question for this week:

A cowboy rode to an inn on Friday. He stayed two nights and left on Friday. How could that be?


Please submit your answer here. Winners’ names will be announced in the next newsletter. Please note that only one answer can be accepted from one person.


Next letter will be issued on Friday January 16. Stay tuned!
Regards, UInvest Support Team."

Oh, goodie,

Regulators issue warnings telling you to avoid it and it doesn't pay you any money but it sends you a newsletter.

You're easily impressed, aren't you, Realname ??

hehe, the scammers trying to use same old excuses when they get on the blacklists :)

Originally Posted by Uinvest

The full explanation about actual concerns


As you know, UInvest takes seriously all your enquiries and always does its best to keep its users updated about all current problems.
Recently, we have received questions from you regarding the relationship between SEC and UI and alleged inclusion of UI in the SEC's blacklist.

On this question, we have to state the following:

1. SEC has no relation to UI and UI has no relation to SEC.
According to the SEC's site, the field of activity of the organization is limited to "licensed and / or located in the United States in their solicitation of non-US investors, and entities not registered in the United States that are soliciting US investors."
As you know, the site uinvest.com.ua is not owned by the American company Uinvest llc, and Uinvest llc has no relation to the site uinvest.com.ua. Thus, the site uinvest.com.ua is neither American nor the US licensed one.
Further, the site uinvest.com.ua absolutely and unequivocally states that Uinvest does not accept and does not serve US investors. Thus, the site uinvest.com.ua is not the site which solicits US investors.

Therefore, the SEC has no relation to UI and has no relation to SEC.

2. UI is not involved in any activities regulated by SEC.

According to SEC's site, this organization is a regulatory body for organizations dealing in securities, or aspiring to it. (See Acts on page SEC.gov | Federal Securities Laws)

UI does not sell securities as it is a platform for placing ads about financing third-party projects. Thus no securities are sold by UI. There are ads from third parties about fundraising for their projects, and these projects have nothing to do with uinvest. Furthermore, anyone can accommodate his/her ad about his project on our website, but uinvest takes no responsibility for the content of these ads.

Consequently, UI has no relation to the SEC regulated area.

3. About an alleged being in some “blacklists”. This list is not an endorsement of any violation. It simply says that UI is not a registered as securities dealer in the United States. But this is also what we say in our TOS

According to the SEC's site "you should understand that the inclusion of a name on these lists does not mean that the SEC has concluded that a violation of the US securities laws has occurred or that the SEC has made any judgment about the merits of the securities being offered by these entities. "


Thus, no violations by UI have been recorded. The site simply informs everyone about what is already written on UI site.

Conclusion: nothing has changed and there is no reason for concern, since ui does not violate any laws of the United States or any other country. UI works closely with the SEC and with other regulatory bodies in order to provide the most accurate information through the activities of our company. In 2013, we took a number of measures to meet compliance requirements of the USA and due to it, our conference which was held in LA, USA, was completely legitimate, and it was attended by speakers from well-known banks as well as by financial brokers.

Uinvest will keep doing everything possible to clarify its position regarding its users in terms of legal and other issues.

All the best from UInvest.

URL: https://uinvest.com.ua/news/22207-new-mail


Dare to try to test your excuses in US court ? ;)
What if i tell you, i have in possession documented evidence of you soliciting at least ten US residents,some still invest on your site while you are fully aware that
you have hundreds (or thousands) of victims from US ? ;)

As well as documented evidence of you portraying yourself as an US company, and claiming that you have "a letter" from US SEC allowing you to function.

Remember our talk, Dave ? and that nonsense you said to me about a letter from SEC couple years ago ? ;)
Do you think we do not document things ? ;)

BTW, we patiently waiting when you and the gang will launch a new ponzi under new name and domain, as you promised
the counter on your crimes is running, and when we finally meet you would be yourself surprised for how many things you would have to answer ;)

Beverly Hills Chambers of Commerce finally kicked this ponzi out of its membership:

As of November 20th:

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As of now:

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Originally Posted by NikSam

Beverly Hills Chambers of Commerce finally kicked this ponzi out of its membership:

Either that or they didn't bother to renew membership.

during the Management chat on Jan 28th, the UI scammer who identifies himself as Eugene,
said that their partner launched a new site to invest in "direct cash" businesses.

Originally Posted by Uinvest/Eugene

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The second part of business is business of direct cash projects
These projects don't pay a lot but they are reliable. You know what they are, where they are located and what their business is. Some of them even provide bank guarantee for the money they take. UInvest doesn't own direct cash projects yet we partner with companies that own them.

We already posted some of them at UInvest, many uinvestors already invested, others are still thinking. Because this business is growing they setup a separate website - dcashproject dot com
Why one may consider this website useful?
- ability to trade shares of direct cash projects
- ability to purchase shares paying by credit cards
- each account holder gets free debit card for earnings
- cash earnings every two weeks
...

dcashproject.com lists only one project now - Woodworking plant in Ukraine:

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investing to which (using a Russian money laundering network PerfectMoney) will give you a whooping 12.5% per month ROI.

So let me quote Eugene again:

Originally Posted by Uinvest/Eugene

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You know what they are, where they are located and what their business is.
...

DO YOU ????

How about this:

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Wings network busted by SEC. Uinvest involved. Article at Patrick's blog:

URGENT >> BULLETIN >> MOVING: SEC Calls ‘Wings Network’ A ‘Ponzi And Pyramid Scheme’

Originally Posted by Whip

Wings network busted by SEC. Uinvest involved. Article at Patrick's blog:

URGENT >> BULLETIN >> MOVING: SEC Calls ‘Wings Network’ A ‘Ponzi And Pyramid Scheme’

nope, it was Uninvest Financial Services Corp. of Deerfield Beach, Fla - has no connection.

yet another epic fail.

So, 2-3 days ago, on UInvest web site, the chat platform and forum were removed.
Victims can not communicate there anymore, and the newbies can be scammed without their interruption.

Originally Posted by NikSam

So, 2-3 days ago, on UInvest web site, the chat platform and forum were removed.
Victims can not communicate there anymore, and the newbies can be scammed without their interruption.

I just tried to access their forum that I bookmarked but can't connect.
http://forum.uinvest.com.ua/forum.php

Ok, I said before that there were some real businesses who looked for funding on Uinvest (uinvest GUN agents brought them in)
How retarded those "business owners" (BOs) are, who assumed they can pay back loans 10-20% a month is amazing, well one day one guy , with no education, no business experience sits somewhere near a river in Uganda and thinks: "if I had a tractor , I could earn millions , I will just plant soybeans (will cost me only a tractor) and I can make stable 50% profit every month", he goes to the bank and asks for a loan to buy a tractor, the bank manager laughs his ass off and for weeks after tells this funny story to his coworkers during smoke breaks. Here comes a local HYIP pimp, who now thinks he is a "agent of Uinvest/ GUN" and tells him he will fullfill his dreams : "you can promise 50% per month to the crowdfunding investors - you get your money next day or 10% will take few months to collect the sum, you will get your money" - Everything looks good, he signs up.
UI does not give a **** if BO can pay or not, they even sure he cannot, but all UI needs is a legend, some real business (not them) to point a finger at.
Having 3-5 of those makes the victims think that the rest 30 are real too.
Sure funds are raised, nice monthly profit was promised, UI transfers BO first payment of 15% of raised sum, and after stops any communication with BO, and by a "contract" BO still has to do monthly payments of the stated sum without getting full loaned sum and forbidden to discuss any part of it with anybody. every real BO I could track down and who felt comfortable to talk with me - the story was exactly like that.

Here is some info which was leaked a month ago (pardon the bad english, i decided to keep it intact)

Hi dear
[20:22:00] *****: so we have responze from BO Soyfood and BO IT project
[20:22:31] *****: about theirs story cooperation with UI
[20:23:17] *****: see next info from BO IT project
Dear Angelo, here the reply, my apologizes it took so long:
[11:57:08] biossl ltd: Hereby the reply from my superiors.
1. Our company you are skyping has no link what so ever with the companies you are referring.
2. Regarding your question:
- the amount that Uinvest have been acquired have never been transmitted. There have been a small payment in the beginning, but the full amount that Uinvest have received from investors, never have been awarded to ID Technologies.
- there have been regular payments back to Uinvest but stopped for different reasons:
a. Allthough Uinvest received the full investment scheme, Uinvest never paid the amount. The same scenario happened for other business owners.
b. By that fact, ID Technologies, who started developing, had to stop their activities.
c. The companies and their bank accounts behind Uinvest were not legally conform with the initial contracts. By investigation by the UK government and the legal advisors of ID Technologies, the behaviour of Uinvest have been tagged as Money Laundering.
d. Uinvest is a HYIP, where received money goes partly on their bank accounts and crumbles for the investors.
e. By changing and re-inventing financial marketing schemes, the owners of Uinvest are continuing their criminal behaviour.
3. ID Technologies knows about the online insults, and is still waiting for the first legal act from Uinvest to them. All documents of proof are in the hands of the laywers of ID Technologies.
Dear Angelo, ID Technologies advices you to take contact with the FBI (Federal Bureau of Investigations) and the SEC (Security Exchange Commmission) (Uinvest is on their black list), who have already a dossier about Uinvest. Perhaps it will help to get your initial investment back.
ID Technologies regrets that investors are victimes, as ID Technologies is a victim of Uinvest.
[20:26:22] ******: Digita il testo o l'indirizzo di un sito web oppure traduci un documento.
THE TRUTH behind FRAUD UINVEST * February 18, 2015
Today I finally had confirmation of the modus operandi of Uinvest.
The matter is also much SNEAKY organization of classic ponzi scheme that pressupone the simple circulation of money, because as I said some business had actually received the funds, for the note "of" not the funds .... all of them.
What I will say is supported by the direct testimony of Orisa Raphael, owner of the "DIVINE MASTER" based in Uganda (that part of the platform is known by the generic name Uinvest "SOYFOOD PROCESSING").
After starting an email correspondence with him in recent weeks, finally sent me a document in his version of the facts (which I doubt not be the real one) for what concerns his relationship with Uinvest, version that attach at the bottom after a brief summary.
Orisa Raphael in 2012 sought funding for its agricultural company and had been introduced in Uinvest GUN by an agent, who had urged him to present his idea. The project, very articulate with precise stages and related costs to be incurred, likes. And after a series of negotiations and visits of the same UI representatives in Uganda, you get to the signed agreements that provide for the collection of USD 1,000,000 (1 MILLION DOLLARS), of which 862,000 would have to be of working capital, to start its assets (138,000 to remain in personal accounts of Orisa Uinvest).
The project is listed on 17:09:12, collects $ 1 million of balance (which at the time were liquids) and begins to produce very heavy dividends balance, injected into the system 180 000 x 22 months = something like 4 MILLION
Meanwhile in the real world and not imaginary thing happening?
Of this amount Orisa had only received a value of almost $ 155,000 in the form of 2 Massey Ferguson tractors XTRA 440. Several times he tried to get from Uinvest full funding to ensure the productivity of both parties desired and sought after, as also from respective agreements signed. But apart from the two tractors no other dollar he was delivered and consequently the project could never formally defined started.
(Orisa with their own resources, however, had sought to capitalize on the cost of the two tractors, but cabotage initiative understand well it showed drastically reduced).
With various altercations and incazzature, you come to the summer of 2014 (NB. This is the only time the dividends were arrested virtual), where Uinvest asks Orisa to pay their monthly contributions of real, before they can receive full funding. Orisa noted that his business, because of the personal costs incurred with its pockets, it is not able to provide much liquidity. You get to a compromise of $ 2,000 per month (two thousand). Orisa pay a month, then as Uinvest made him put as a reason for these payments computer products, calls for clarity on the modus operandi of uinvest. Vague answers usual. The payment of $ 2000 is not counted and climbed out of debt. And then he decided to stop and not to pay anything. You arrive at the current situation, where contacts occur between Orisa and the lawyer who Uinvest hired locally.
Translated in a nutshell.
We investors were sold a product (bond) for a value of 1 million when in fact it had been funded at 15%.
Which business funded with $ 155,000 $ 180,000 produces month after month after month ......?

The following list of illegal investment sites was launched not by UInvest but by ex-uinvestors and past collaborators of Uinvest scam.
I estimated this happening - that if UI remains unpunished it will give birth to more crowdfunding-themed ponzis and create more criminals.

Sites:

investrealprojects.com (Barbara Korpalska, Moruf Fasasi) ,
dcashproject.com,
cfundin.com (Joseph Dem, Stefan Grabow),
samsbid.com,
wetradenet.com (Edwin Nikolaas, Suzanna Doffer)

P.S. UI victims from US please contact me in private.

Originally Posted by NikSam

The following list of illegal investment sites was launched not by UInvest but by ex-uinvestors and past collaborators of Uinvest scam.
I estimated this happening - that if UI remains unpunished it will give birth to more crowdfunding-themed ponzis and create more criminals.

Sites:

investrealprojects.com (Barbara Korpalska, Moruf Fasasi) ,
dcashproject.com,
cfundin.com (Joseph Dem, Stefan Grabow),
samsbid.com,
wetradenet.com (Edwin Nikolaas, Suzanna Doffer)

P.S. UI victims from US please contact me in private.

Originally Posted by NikSam

The following list of illegal investment sites was launched not by UInvest but by ex-uinvestors and past collaborators of Uinvest scam.
I estimated this happening - that if UI remains unpunished it will give birth to more crowdfunding-themed ponzis and create more criminals.

Sites:

investrealprojects.com (Barbara Korpalska, Moruf Fasasi) ,
dcashproject.com,
cfundin.com (Joseph Dem, Stefan Grabow),
samsbid.com,
wetradenet.com (Edwin Nikolaas, Suzanna Doffer)

P.S. UI victims from US please contact me in private.

Hello NikSam,

I dont know where you got your information from but I want to state here that next time verify your claims before you go about calling legitimate people scam. The following are real, serious and legitimate crowdfunding platforms from serious business people. Do not associate them with Uinvest, because the sites have no relationship with Uinvest.
investrealprojects.com (Barbara Korpalska, Moruf Fasasi)
cfundin.com (Joseph Dem, Stefan Grabow)
wetradenet.com (Edwin Nikolaas, Suzanna Doffer)

Originally Posted by done4

Hello NikSam,

I dont know where you got your information from but I want to state here that next time verify your claims before you go about calling legitimate people scam. The following are real, serious and legitimate crowdfunding platforms from serious business people. Do not associate them with Uinvest, because the sites have no relationship with Uinvest.
investrealprojects.com (Barbara Korpalska, Moruf Fasasi)
cfundin.com (Joseph Dem, Stefan Grabow)
wetradenet.com (Edwin Nikolaas, Suzanna Doffer)

First welcome to RS. In regard to your statement about legitimate people and serious business people, I would have to ask how serious business people could have been involved in Uinvest just as an investor, let alone being collaborators in Uinvest? Any serious business person would have known that Uinvest was a Ponzi and avoided it like the plague. I look forward to your reply.

Originally Posted by done4

Hello NikSam,

I dont know where you got your information from but I want to state here that next time verify your claims before you go about calling legitimate people scam. The following are real, serious and legitimate crowdfunding platforms from serious business people....

Ok, then I guess your serious and legitimate business people will have no problem suing me and defend their cases in courts :)

You would be surprised how much stuff you do not know about those scammers.
Honestly , I do not want to waste my precious time to discuss in details each of them. I do not believe any of that crap will attract enough victims for me seriously to care. But I will be watching, maybe one of them will get that prize.

Oh, GP (Stefan Grabow aka Germanpolice), Sorry I could not fully understand what you were trying to express, but I am touched anyway.
I see you are one of my fans :)
So go fck yourself too darling.

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