Thread: Uinvest...again...Scam or not?

Originally Posted by hassijun

UINVEST is not dead...Surely they earn a lot of money, otherwise the site would be not online anymore.

Surely based on what? Can you please produce independently audited financial statements that PROVE this. The fact that the site is online means next to nothing. Enron Creditors Recovery Corp. - Home is still online, what chance do you think there is that people will be made whole?

Originally Posted by hassijun

I also have catched one of these FP-Funds WD, but my FP-Partner canceled the transaction. You have to be very quick to catch some offer!

What on earth does this even mean? When I bill a client I expect payment within 30 days, as does almost every business in the world. When I ask one bank to send another bank money I expect the transaction to take a day or two tops. And I am a bit of a fussbucket, but if I ask for $5,000 to be transferred, if less than that is transferred, which has NEVER happened, I would be on the phone or in someones office getting it sorted out IMMEDIATELY. I would not be on the web saying what good lollipops they have in the lobby.
Finally, I pay almost all my bills electronically, it takes a maximum of 2 days for an an electronic invoice to be distributed by the bank and is received by the person I owe IMMEDIATELY.

All this to say, I have no idea what Ponzi world you consider NORMAL, but the real business world has it all figured out.

Originally Posted by hassijun

In the meantime I do have searched for other HYIP programs with a shorter term for the money and now I test some of them.

What exact methodology are you going to use to evaluate all these business opportunities? You are in a busted ponzi scheme and are oblivious to that FACT.

Originally Posted by hassijun

When you want to know which and how I act, visit the link in my signature...

Anyone who puts money in deserves to lose every penny, and probably should have a court appointed receiver to manage all their money.

Originally Posted by hassijun

UINVEST is not dead... I believe they are working hard to get this system back. Surely they earn a lot of money, otherwise the site would be not online anymore.
Even when you see the proofs of WD - they are growing.
I also have catched one of these FP-Funds WD, but my FP-Partner canceled the transaction. You have to be very quick to catch some offer!

In the meantime I do have searched for other HYIP programs with a shorter term for the money and now I test some of them.

When you want to know which and how I act, visit the link in my signature...
hassijun

It is as dead as it can be. A website that is still online does not mean anything. The people behind have already run, or why do you think Mr. Romanov aka Dave Darrell has disappeared completely. Only stupid employees left who keep some things going. My bet is that they will be offline by next year. Or maybe they are doing it like Sportarbs and keep playing their games for years. Whatever, dead is dead.

Originally Posted by hassijun

UINVEST is not dead...

Because there is still a pulse you think it's not dead??.....
By this logic E-gold is also not dead....But just like Uinvest none of the members can ever get their money out....
https://www.e-gold.com/acct/login.html

Wait, so they leave the sites up and accept deposits when they know it's dead and nobody can get their money out?

I think i'm going to deposit some money in profit clicking right now!

Originally Posted by hassijun

UINVEST is not dead... I believe they are working hard to get this system back. Surely they earn a lot of money, otherwise the site would be not online anymore.
Even when you see the proofs of WD - they are growing.
I also have catched one of these FP-Funds WD, but my FP-Partner canceled the transaction. You have to be very quick to catch some offer!

In the meantime I do have searched for other HYIP programs with a shorter term for the money and now I test some of them.

When you want to know which and how I act, visit the link in my signature...
hassijun

Some people are street smart, some are book smart.
Judging from his recent posts, this individual is neither.

He would be best with paid to click or Traffic exchanges. Click gets you a few cents.

04.09.13 Management Chat with Alex PR. PART 2

This guy is without scruples. Feeding all this BS to these members knowing most see zero.

Is not that Hilarious?

So this is how FPs supposed to work now.

FP should process withdrawals paying his own money out.
For the sum of processed WDs he gets a privilege to accept deposits from new suckers double the amount of WDs he processed.




watch out US banks and US dollar (which are ponzi too) guys in Ukraine figured it all out :)

Any info on the true identity of the moderating crooks hiding behind the pseudonyms of "Elena", "Vlad G.", "Nasty-a" ?

Originally Posted by unterueber

Any info on the true identity of the moderating crooks hiding behind the pseudonyms of "Elena", "Vlad G.", "Nasty-a" ?

Those are just hired students, not your crooks , or not important.

Except maybe Vlad a bit more. someone met a person in staged UI office in Kiev (Regus - looks like they rent time or a desk there) named Vlad.

Originally Posted by NikSam

Those are just hired students, not your crooks , or not important.

You must be kidding.

Originally Posted by NikSam

Except maybe Vlad a bit more. someone met a person in staged UI office in Kiev (Regus - looks like they rent time or a desk there) named Vlad.

Who would be that person ?

UI released a new video covering South Africa conference in July,

looks like a lot of credit was given to us - naysayers :)




too bad they did not show entire Q/A panel, some investors really gave them hard time with the right questions.

Originally Posted by NikSam

UI released a new video covering South Africa conference in July,

looks like a lot of credit was given to us - naysayers :)

too bad they did not show entire Q/A panel, some investors really gave them hard time with the right questions.

These could be just hired (bad) actors.

When I saw them hyiping the GUN investors, its days of paying we numbered.
It was like PS and the "huge" long term announcement.

This is entire 2 hours webinar from Friiday.

1 hour of smoke and mirrors
2nd hour was Q&A with AlexPR, interesting how he does not know anything

From today, posts are moderated on their forum : This scam is definitively on the verge of collapse

Amsterdam conference is not cancelled, it is postponed

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URL: https://uinvest.com.ua/news/21273-am...t-is-postponed

Damn, police does not like to reschedule things :)

This is not funny. They must think their forum posters are complete idiots.
FP-Fund is the craziest thing Uinvest have started

Somebody here asked for Uinvest chats, ok, here are some interesting other people sent me:

Private chat with Admin Tetyana on Sept 20:

Me: Hi , can i have a link you gave to gigolo ?
Me: a license link ?
Tetyana: https://uinvest.com.ua...ct-us
Me: that is addresses, whee is license ?
Tetyana: it is there. at least i have it there.
Me: no, it is not
Tetyana: what do you see there?
Me: only Contact Us page
Me: with addresses, no addresses
Me: no licenses
Me: ok, can you just give NSSMC registration number
Tetyana: i don't understand. do you see telephone number?
Me: yes
Me: i need license number not telephone number
Me: also which kvartira on Melnikova, 83 is your office ?
Tetyana: i just found out in our legal department that the link was temporarily removed. ut needs some updates. but be sure it exist.
Me: can you ask leagl dept just NSSMC registration number
Me: i can find license myself
Me: there is no licenses on your Ukrainian company ID 37635071
Tetyana: and what is you nick name? i see you as a guest...
Me: so please provide the license # you authorized under
Me: i am a guest, is it a problem ?
Tetyana: yes, i need you to be log in.
Me: why? is license # a confidentail info ?
Tetyana: actually yes
Me: oh, really ?
Me: ok, please tell your license # to a gigolo
Me: licenses issued by any authority in Ukraine is a public record, how would you claim it is confidentail, please explain
Me: also ask your legal department when the last tax was filed and whay ?
Me: expect a response
Me: or something very interesting is gonna show in newspapers how foreigners invest in Ukrainian businesses, will give you a lot of popularity in Ukraine
Me: so please tell your "legal" department to clarify the situation for their own sake

Private chat with Admin Nastya on Sept 21:

Me: Hi Nastya, which office are you in now ?
Me: you already said that Melnikova 83 is old and does not exists anymore and site is not updated
Me: so where ?
Nastya: please kindly wait when this info will be updated on site
Me: but what is the address ? do you know where you sitting in now ?
Me: this info on the site was not updated for a year
Me: so which address is it ?
Nastya: why you need to know our adress?..
Me: there was no Uinvest offices on Melnikova 83 ever
Nastya: if you want to come - you have to submit ticket
Me: i do not need a ticket, i want to know an address where company has offices, is it confidential ?
Nastya: please submit a ticket
Me: ok, let make it simpler
Me: if i come to one on Belckogo now, will i meet you ?
Me: or a should send a ticket and be invited to one on Sagaidachnogo ? for some reason not really yours
Me: or should i go to official registered address in Kiev, but owner of the house said he never ever heard of any Uinvest, so it would be silly for me to look for you there
Me: Nastya, please answer
Nastya: if you want to come - you need to submit ticket and we will give you real adress and more over explain you the way
Me: Nastya, i want to know where such a great multi-millinon dollar company located in Kiev, i do not need a ticket to visit temporary offices on Sagaidachnogo .
Me: So on Beleckogo than ? hiding under another company name ?
Me: why so much secrecy ?
Me: and lies on "Contact Us" page
Me: and lies by chat mods, that they "still" on Melnikova

As you might have guessed both ended in "IGNORE"

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Thank you :)
I was the one who requested.
Maybe people who are invested in Uinvest can ask the same questions over and over during their management chats.

Great read from page 15 on. Even that dipstick GermanPolice (one of the bigger idiots ever on MMG forum) is Univest bashing.
Said part, they will just disappear into Kiev, Odessa, etc.

forgot the thread:
https://forum.uinvest.com.ua/showthr...-growth/page15

Love this part: This ignoramous was always bothering Lyndell w/his inane drivel.
Originally Posted by DD View Post
Germanpolice, hi

I have no idea what else information about the conference you expect. I gave it several times on this forum, if it is not what you like I cannot do anything, really. We asked for the documents confirming event is being organized - we didn't receive anything. There is nothing to add, it's usual thing which unfortunately happens when there is not enough dedication from an organizer.
Dear Darell, fake user, known actors on the ui presentation etc... pp... known people found on forums, camping with friends at fire, accident motorcycle.
about the debate some sites bevore here, yes it is right we have collect some data (DB with usernames etc.... , ui employees names....) or better say not me chris does during the time UI had DDoS attacks.
This is not a answer i expect.
i want a more detailed answer.
why you WONT tell us more ??
where is the problem to tell 1 time in life the TRUE ???

we just want a solution for WD.... no other implemented ,created stuff. maybe own created payment processor would help and make the situation and reputation better.... people wont come if they here we can not wd our money its difficult to reffer and so on....

outsourcing is not the thing that help.


We are normal investors.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us

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Quote Originally Posted by germanpolice View Post
Dear Darell, fake user, known actors on the ui presentation etc... pp... known people found on forums, camping with friends at fire, accident motorcycle.
about the debate some sites bevore here, yes it is right we have collect some data (DB with usernames etc.... , ui employees names....) or better say not me chris does during the time UI had DDoS attacks.
This is not a answer i expect.
i want a more detailed answer.
why you WONT tell us more ??
where is the problem to tell 1 time in life the TRUE ???

we just want a solution for WD.... no other implemented ,created stuff. maybe own created payment processor would help and make the situation and reputation better.... people wont come if they here we can not wd our money its difficult to reffer and so on....

outsourcing is not the thing that help.


We are normal investors.
We do not forgive.
We do not forget.
Expect us
You lost all your credibility fella. A few weeks back, you were all positive and calling people as dummies now you're here to complain and cry like a little German baby? No, sorry, you are completely mistaken. I don't think people will show any respect to 2 sided newbies like you.

Just for the sake of it, I hope you never get paid here because you're a big hypocrite just like your friend Christopher.

For all those reading his replies, I suggest checking back a few weeks ago when he was cheer leading UInvest on forums and chat. I guess all that changed because he finally woke up.

I could not belive my eyes what UI admin Maryna posted today in official UI forum:

The high ROI may at first seem unreasonable strange and unreal for newcomers, although it is a regular thing for experienced users. ROI is only partially paid by BO, the rest is generated by usage numerous of internal tools.This way a high ROI is achieved.

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URL: https://forum.uinvest.com.ua/showthr...l=1#post120195
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ROI - Return on Investment
BO - Business Owners


Nice going, so partially a Ponzi? uhmmm, OK, makes some sense :)

Outright hostility, insults by DD vs the members.
Its all over but this thread is good example.
https://forum.uinvest.com.ua/showthr...-Enquiry/page2

Pages 5-last.

Bankruptcy? Cyprus? LR?(a joke when LR collapsed UI said it had no effect) cheaters?
Its getting really thick between mmebers and admin.
https://forum.uinvest.com.ua/showthr...n-solved/page5

Hmm, time to resign Mr. Jonas M. Grant , why so ?



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past regs:

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