Thread: Working with Motor club of America

Not sure on the PO box yet, but TVC Marketing Associates appears to have been around for a while (1989):
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900482027

This appears to be the correct Auto Club Of America Site:
Auto Club Of America - Home
Bud Belz - Executive Profile
Shows the connection between Auto Club Of America & TVC Marketing

There are several listings in the OK Secretary of State corporations databse for
Auto Club Of America:
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInqu...20of%20america
That appear to be related to the man Auto Club Of America as they have the same registered
agent - Bud Belz - who is listed as the founder here:
Auto Club Of America

It says: "Founder of the Auto Club of America in 1976"

Several of those listings list that the corporations are inactive because of an OTC Suspension - which I believe
is an Oklahoma Tax Commission supsension. Here are a few of those:
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900317258
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900316364
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900305854
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900305569
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1910324410
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900410407

There is another company called OKLAHOMA AUTO CLUB-INC. here founded in 1928:
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=2100057317
It doesn't list a registered agent, but it's a non-profit, so it seems doubtful that it's related to
the Auto Club Of America.

there is also a company called AUTOMOBILE CLUB OF SOUTHERN OKLAHOMA
https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=2100051692

Again, no registered agent listed - and a non-for-profit.

AutoClub of America: about us

I am glad you all posted this information. I actually signed up awhile back and created a website to market it and planned to market the hell out of it, BUT... after drawing up plans for the website I was going to create (was going to blow all other affiliates out of the water), I started researching for information to place on my site to verify it's legitimacy. Guess what... I found NOTHING. My benefits packet actually came yesterday stating how they been doing business since 1926, but I have found nothing in relation to these companies past the 1970s, so where are those other 50 years or whatever?

On top of this, the information I found in there favor was only registrations of business, but even those didn't show anything serious. I was starting to wonder if there was just one affiliate that took it upon himself to join ACA and make it look like a total different program so he can increase his own downline, as I haven't started promoting simply because I can find no information.

So for the original poster whom is talking about making money, that is great. I can go make $30,000 with this by the end of the month if I wanted, but I refuse to introduce a "possible scam" to people in which they may be taken and have my name attached to it. I am almost tempted to go do an eye exam or something and use this card just to see if it really even works. Something just doesn't feel right about this. I just need some PROOF that I can use in which I could then vouch, but for now something is definitely up with this.

I have wrote them a few times and still have not received the answers to all of my questions asking for proof of business registration, what about them was registered in 1926, the relation to Virgil Coffee, etc. etc.

If you can answer ANY of that, then we can talk, but until then... I have to write this off as a 90% chance of being a scam cause nothing seems to be adding up.

Oh, and ALSO. https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900482027

In reference to that link I just posted. If their marketing company was brought about in 1989, how can they claim to have been doing business since 1926. If they took over the company, that supposingly was doing bad or is not active due to tax commissions or whatever, WHY in the heck would they want to associate with them and assume their past bad business instead of stating specifically that they are a completely different company or whatever.

Originally Posted by TurtleDive

I am glad you all posted this information. I actually signed up awhile back and created a website to market it and planned to market the hell out of it, BUT... after drawing up plans for the website I was going to create (was going to blow all other affiliates out of the water), I started researching for information to place on my site to verify it's legitimacy. Guess what... I found NOTHING. My benefits packet actually came yesterday stating how they been doing business since 1926, but I have found nothing in relation to these companies past the 1970s, so where are those other 50 years or whatever?

On top of this, the information I found in there favor was only registrations of business, but even those didn't show anything serious. I was starting to wonder if there was just one affiliate that took it upon himself to join ACA and make it look like a total different program so he can increase his own downline, as I haven't started promoting simply because I can find no information.

So for the original poster whom is talking about making money, that is great. I can go make $30,000 with this by the end of the month if I wanted, but I refuse to introduce a "possible scam" to people in which they may be taken and have my name attached to it. I am almost tempted to go do an eye exam or something and use this card just to see if it really even works. Something just doesn't feel right about this. I just need some PROOF that I can use in which I could then vouch, but for now something is definitely up with this.

I have wrote them a few times and still have not received the answers to all of my questions asking for proof of business registration, what about them was registered in 1926, the relation to Virgil Coffee, etc. etc.

If you can answer ANY of that, then we can talk, but until then... I have to write this off as a 90% chance of being a scam cause nothing seems to be adding up.

Oh, and ALSO. https://www.sos.ok.gov/corp/corpInfo...?id=1900482027

In reference to that link I just posted. If their marketing company was brought about in 1989, how can they claim to have been doing business since 1926. If they took over the company, that supposingly was doing bad or is not active due to tax commissions or whatever, WHY in the heck would they want to associate with them and assume their past bad business instead of stating specifically that they are a completely different company or whatever.

Let me also welcome you to RS. As far as to how can they say it, simply because this is the Internet, and they can say whatever they want.

You see they don't expect anyone to really check them out. You are just supposed to buy the story and not question. Then also when you do ask serious questions in their chat room, you will be vilified for being negative, a Troll, or any of several other names, and then banned from the room.

But as for thinking this is 90% a scam, let me clear that up for you. It is 100% a Ponzi. And like in any Ponzi, you are not really making anything but the money comes from people joining under you or after you until it collapses because they cannot get more people into the program.

But don't let this be your only post and time here. And if you do have questions, you will find that there are many people here who will answer them for you.

All the best.

Hiya, TurtleDive and welcome to REALSCAM.com

While you're in research mode, you might like to spend some time chasing down the " National Association of Travel Organization" (NATO)

which features prominently in Mr Belz' resume on the ACA website:

He has been very active in the National Association of Travel Organization (NATO, which is the trade association for auto clubs) and has held several offices in the organization, including that of president in 1989 and 1997. In 1999, NATO named Mr. Belz Executive Director, which is the organization's only permanent position, for his lifetime achievement.

Other than on the ACA website, Mr Google, like me, seems to have a hard time finding any reference to NATO.

Thank you both for welcoming me, and I do plan to stick around. I was actually still doing research trying to find more information on this company and the people connected. The only things I can ever find about this site are 100s of affiliates SPAMMING the hell out of the internet with it. I cannot go to Craigslist now without seeing 10 ads for it, nor will any search pull up anything other than fake press releases, spun articles, duplicated videos, etc. Doesn't make sense that one would have to LOOK for anything that validates a company's legitimacy. I'd think that any company that's legit would love to have all of their legitimacy proved immediately and possibly even link directly to it to instill comfort into it's viewers and potential clients.

I actually joined awhile back without thinking to validate it as it was a no-brainer. $240.00 a year, is nothing when 4 referrals would have me covered for life in residuals alone. I built the website AmericaMotorClub.com as a capture page really believing in the product, and then I came up with a great idea on how to get massive attention without even marketing, and right when I was about to create my main site for this program, I noticed the other club (ACA) had the same road and colors in the logo. That's actually what caught my attention and made me say... wait a minute... what's the connection between these companies. My first thought was infringement. ACA's information showed it was from I think the 50s if I remember correctly, so how the hell could this other one be from the 20s if it came after? Something just didn't make sense. That's when I started searching for more information and VERIFIABLE information, mainly just for the "about us" section I was setting up for my site, and stumbled across nothing but by chance found this site, in which you all pointed out some of the same very limited information I found as well as much more info you dug up which pretty much confirmed this company is up to something.

I looked at real footage of a person marketing it whom has a 300+ in her downline, and has made over $20,000.00 and has been paid on time every Friday which made me think it could work. I really wanted this company to be legit and almost still marketed it, but I can't put my name on something like this if they have started out their company with all lies. I emailed them to have some simple questions answered... I will report back when/if I get any responses to any of it. I actually inquired about seeing PROOF of any of their claims (I specified a lot of them from their own wording) and asked if I could see any documents in regards to such things, but still no word.

Also, not long ago, I contacted the person I signed under (the one that made the 20k in less than 3 months) and asked her some questions and her response was. It's legit, people are getting paid. In which I kindly responded, that being paid doesn't mean anything. All scams start out with the illusion of being legit, where they must pay people at first to create trust and get it to spread like wildfire else nobody would join. She's being paid greatly because she's having the biggest impact on the company's success by marketing nonstop, posting every 15 minutes everywhere, etc. so of course she loves it. Also told her, if it's working for her GREAT. Milk it while you can, but I still would like to know more information about them because nothing is adding up. I explained to her how I could not find anything verifiable, and that I didn't doubt they were legit (redirected conversation in her favor to halt the defensive responses) and that I simply wanted to see proof or know what proof she had of it's legitimacy. She mentioned Virgil Coffee and David Kirscher I believe and told me check wikipedia for them, but then I asked... okay, so where is a real resource that cannot be edited by random people. Hell I can go in there right now and change his name to mine. Something from the government is what I would like to see basically. She said she would see if she can find out anything (which I don't have high hopes of her doing, as it could jeopardize her position with the company) and let me know.

I guess I'm still stuck on trying to find out some legitimacy to this program because I really wanted to believe in it, as it seemed like a great way to make some decent additional income for the real estate ventures I am in.

The thing that gets me though is, people are posting photos, videos, and statements explaining that they are actually USING these benefits and that it is indeed real. So if the services ARE real, why can't we find anything verifying them? I mean, is the card really a different company and just marked with their stamp? How can this card be accepted in SOOO many places, but yet nobody can find anything verifying whom they are? this whole setup is scary.

OK, let's start with the basics. In what city/state are they located (company office)? Are they incorporated? Check with the Secretary of State of the Department of Corporations to see if they are properly licensed and registered in the state. Then check any other state to see if they are licensed and registered with them. They must be registered as a foreign corporation in all the states in which they do business. In some states it is the Department of Corporations to find out this information and in other states it is the Secretary of State. That's why you need to check both to find the right agency.

Then check out the BBB in their location to see what kind of rating they have, and if complaints: how many, how many stll outstanding, and how many resolved.

Since they are obviously nationwide, I would check with local towing companies to see if they are part of their service group. Usually a company that uses AAA, also will affiliate themselves with other membership groups like this. I think Allstate has their program still in force, as do several other companies.

One thing you need to be aware of, is that most car manufacturers now provide roadside assistance for 2-3 years of car ownership. So outside services usually are for people who have owned their cars for a long time or bought used. You are also competing with about 5 other companies that offer this type of service.

One of the major things that can happen is their pricing is just the come-on to get people enrolled. Then after a year the costs start going up and up and up. This causes the people to drop out that do not have any residual income coming in to cover these costs. Thus you lose retention which reduces your income.

Remember, when you Google, do not just go to the first 4 or 5 pages. If they show at least 8-10 pages, you want to start on page 7 because that's where they real information will be found.

Not sure if this helped or not, but all the best.

Here is more information about Motor Club of America.

Things you should know before you join TVC Marketing - Motor Club of America

Originally Posted by jovics

Here is more information about Motor Club of America.

Things you should know before you join TVC Marketing - Motor Club of America

I especially liked this part of your article:
Read about Motor Club of America on Wikipedia - which led to a deleted WikiPedia page. Better yet is the discussion
about the deletion:
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Motor Club of America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was speedy delete. Speedy G11, would need complete rewriting from scratch DGG ( talk ) 03:36, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
[edit]Motor Club of America

Motor Club of America (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log • Stats)
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No established notability, only reference is a deadlink, reads like advertising, I was unable to find any independent sources, contested PROD. — Jeff G. ツ (talk) 23:29, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Delete. Pure spam, and it looks like copy vio also.--Dmol (talk) 23:48, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
Delete, per above. There doesn't seem to be any reliable third-party sources on this group. EWikistTalk 00:54, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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Speedy delete as unambiguous advertising; alternatively, delete per Jeff G. There was evidently an earlier New Jersey company also called Motor Club of America, which changed its name to Preserver Group in 1991.[1] There are a few news articles about that company and its founder, but I found no independent sources for this one. --Arxiloxos (talk) 03:04, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
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Pure spam, indeed!

Hello everyone. I just want to say I'm so glad I found this page. It helped me tremendously in understanding the truth about MCA. I first heard about MCA through Facebook. I thought something was amiss as the only thing associates seem to promote more than anything is how much money they make. Admittedly, it was this approach that made me consider joining MCA, but something in my gut kept saying something just wasn't right. The more research I did, the LESS I could get a straight up answer regarding MCA. The biggest red flags for me was on the majority of the You Tube videos posted by associates, it would have very misleading titles like, "MCA is a SCAM!!!" and once you go to their video, they are actually trying to get you to join MCA. I've found that a lot of the associates are either very defensive or try to come across as sympathetic (i.e. "I'm sorry you may have been treated poorly by another associate. Please contact me if you have any questions about MCA.") The biggest red flag is that NONE of the associates give direct answers to questions about MCA other than "People make money" or "I'm getting paid". I couldn't put my finger on why, specifically, MCA didn't sound right, other than it just didn't sound right. This site has helped me to identify the specific reason why MCA is a scam. Thank God, because I was seriously considering joining.

Originally Posted by MissFloridaSunshine

Hello everyone. I just want to say I'm so glad I found this page. It helped me tremendously in understanding the truth about MCA. I first heard about MCA through Facebook. I thought something was amiss as the only thing associates seem to promote more than anything is how much money they make. Admittedly, it was this approach that made me consider joining MCA, but something in my gut kept saying something just wasn't right. The more research I did, the LESS I could get a straight up answer regarding MCA. The biggest red flags for me was on the majority of the You Tube videos posted by associates, it would have very misleading titles like, "MCA is a SCAM!!!" and once you go to their video, they are actually trying to get you to join MCA. I've found that a lot of the associates are either very defensive or try to come across as sympathetic (i.e. "I'm sorry you may have been treated poorly by another associate. Please contact me if you have any questions about MCA.") The biggest red flag is that NONE of the associates give direct answers to questions about MCA other than "People make money" or "I'm getting paid". I couldn't put my finger on why, specifically, MCA didn't sound right, other than it just didn't sound right. This site has helped me to identify the specific reason why MCA is a scam. Thank God, because I was seriously considering joining.

I happened upon MCA while researching different opportunities to work from home. Having always worked in the legal field as a paralegal, I wanted more information about the company's background. All the associates all state the same "script" and that is an indicator to me that before giving any money, I needed to see if I would be able to find out more information. After a few different types of searches, I finally happened upon a recent November 23, 2012, commentary by a guy named Steve Rhode. He titled his commentary "Motor Club of America (MCA) Looks Like a Biz Op to Avoid. Not What It Appears to Be." Mr. Rhode's article saved me a lot of time and effort as it contains exactly the information I was seeking while researching online. I try to always research the background of any employer or business I am hoping to form a relationship with, it is always a wise practice to do so. There is a lot of public information which is easily accessible through clerk of court websites, secretary of state websites, department of corporations, etc. When in doubt or you got a gut feeling, listen to your gut, and do your research. :)

@justice786 Just read the article. Very helpful. I wish more people spoke out about MCA.

yep Miss Florida Sunshine, Gotta read the fine print!

Mca isnt a scam but theres a company wayyyy better called NMC, who evers thinking about joining mca I would highly recommend googling MCA vs NMC,contact email address removed by mod if interested in joining

This is my first post, so I understand that it will be moderated.

In doing my own research on MCA/TVC (someone asked a question about whether MCA/TVC was accredited by the BBC in a MCA Facebook group) and I came across this thread. I decided to read through the thread, then decided to join so that I can share what information I have obtained.

**DISCLAIMER: I'll say this right up front...I did sign up as a free associate with TVC/MCA but did not purchase a membership benefits package. I do promote affiliate programs and when I first saw this, it was being promoted by many that you had to purchase a membership benefits package in order to be an affiliate, so I hesitated. I found out later that this was NOT true. You CAN sign up as an associate for free, sell the benefits packages and earn commissions. The folks saying otherwise was their way of getting a "cash grab" from their referrals and not being upfront about the company policies...not really the fault of the company, but of greedy marketers.

The constant question is: where is "official", "corporate" (in other words, objective and unbiased) information about the company? That was my first question because the majority of the entries returned from a google search are from associates' promotions. Someone finally directed me to this link: Preserver Group, Inc.: Information from Answers.com

This is an entry that is supposedly in the Gale Directory of Company Histories. This gives a history of Preserver Group Inc., which (according to this) grew out of the Motor Club of America/MCA. You find the 1926 start date here; that's the date the Green brothers established a motor club in New Jersey, which eventually became MCA. It also states that MCA sold the motor club business to JVL Holding Properties in 1996; I believe Virgil Coffee, who owns TVC Marketing Associates (the marketing arm of MCA), owns JVL.

There are folks out there selling the MCA benefits packages "legitimately", meaning that they are promoting the products/services and not necessarily the business opportunity. There have been testimonials in the MCA Facebook group of folks using the roadside service and being quite satisfied with the service they received.

In response to a comment on this thread, stating that MCA takes back commissions when someone cancels a membership...that's not a scam, that's called a "chargeback". The $80 commission you receive as a result of a $40 sale (a $19.95/mo membership package; they're paying for their first and last month) is an ADVANCE commission...if someone cancels their membership, you have to pay some of that commission back.

I'm not here to defend TVC/MCA, only to pass along additional information which I didn't see here in this thread. While I have heard of the Gale Directories, I did not personally confirm that this entry was indeed in the Directory.

Thanks,

Ellyn

I found this post very helpful. Especially this link here Preserver Group, Inc.: Information from Answers.com. From there I went here Check Out a Business or Charity - Oklahoma City BBB for Preserver Group as you will see if you go there the Preserver Group Inc. does display an A+ rating and listed under Description: This company offers Property Casualty Company.

Additional Information
BBB file opened: January 21, 2003 Business started: 01/01/1933
Type of Entity

Corporation
Business Management
Patrick J. Haveron, CEO
Contact Information
Principal: Patrick J. Haveron, CEO
Business Category

Business Opportunity Companies

But here is what many people may miss upon checking this info about Property Casualty Company on the BBB website. Take a look at the email listed phaveron@twrgrp.com then go to twrgrp.com on this website they offer multiple types of insurance home, auto, business, loss control, etc. which I gather could make sense with some of what mca offers. When you type in Tower Group Companies into the BBB website they have no rating and twrgrp.com is still the listed website.

Additional Information
top
BBB file opened: June 07, 2011 Business started:
Business Category

Insurance - Homeowners

I am NOT a member of mca though I was considering. I just thought that I'd add a little additional info based on some great research that Ellyn did.

Make it a great day;

Originally Posted by aislesoffiles

This is my first post, so I understand that it will be moderated.

In doing my own research on MCA/TVC (someone asked a question about whether MCA/TVC was accredited by the BBC in a MCA Facebook group) and I came across this thread. I decided to read through the thread, then decided to join so that I can share what information I have obtained.

**DISCLAIMER: I'll say this right up front...I did sign up as a free associate with TVC/MCA but did not purchase a membership benefits package. I do promote affiliate programs and when I first saw this, it was being promoted by many that you had to purchase a membership benefits package in order to be an affiliate, so I hesitated. I found out later that this was NOT true. You CAN sign up as an associate for free, sell the benefits packages and earn commissions. The folks saying otherwise was their way of getting a "cash grab" from their referrals and not being upfront about the company policies...not really the fault of the company, but of greedy marketers.

The constant question is: where is "official", "corporate" (in other words, objective and unbiased) information about the company? That was my first question because the majority of the entries returned from a google search are from associates' promotions. Someone finally directed me to this link: Preserver Group, Inc.: Information from Answers.com

This is an entry that is supposedly in the Gale Directory of Company Histories. This gives a history of Preserver Group Inc., which (according to this) grew out of the Motor Club of America/MCA. You find the 1926 start date here; that's the date the Green brothers established a motor club in New Jersey, which eventually became MCA. It also states that MCA sold the motor club business to JVL Holding Properties in 1996; I believe Virgil Coffee, who owns TVC Marketing Associates (the marketing arm of MCA), owns JVL.

There are folks out there selling the MCA benefits packages "legitimately", meaning that they are promoting the products/services and not necessarily the business opportunity. There have been testimonials in the MCA Facebook group of folks using the roadside service and being quite satisfied with the service they received.

In response to a comment on this thread, stating that MCA takes back commissions when someone cancels a membership...that's not a scam, that's called a "chargeback". The $80 commission you receive as a result of a $40 sale (a $19.95/mo membership package; they're paying for their first and last month) is an ADVANCE commission...if someone cancels their membership, you have to pay some of that commission back.

I'm not here to defend TVC/MCA, only to pass along additional information which I didn't see here in this thread. While I have heard of the Gale Directories, I did not personally confirm that this entry was indeed in the Directory.

Thanks,

Ellyn

If you dig deep enough you will find MCA is officially"Motor Club of America Enterprises, Inc."

Motor Club of America Enterprises, Inc has a location in Oklahoma City, OK. Active officers include Virgil W. Coffee, Larry K. Melton and David K. Kircher. The company's line of business includes Motor Club.

direct dial: (405) 843-2745
Category: Motor ClubAutomobile owners' association
Filings: Foreign For-Profit Corporation (TX - Active)
Statement & Designation By Foreign Corporation (CA - Active)
Sources: California Secretary of State last refreshed 2/8/2013
Dun & Bradstreet last refreshed 2/8/2013
Texas Secretary of State last refreshed 2/8/2013

Ok Motor club of america is a great company It always pays me on time and I refer people to the services they offer not the compensation plan. I love how i make commission, overrides residual income. By the way Ive made so much money with MCA. It has changed my life. The point of MCA is to find people who actually need these services not to just recruit random people who dont care for the services. Look I have been in this company and I have made over $100,000 with this company. I love it and I'll never look at another MLM company ever again. If you are just starting with MCA and you need help call me XXX XXX XXXX. I can get you in the right direction. MCA is POWERFUL and people like this guy are powerless. Remember people its all up to you when it comes to business. JOIN MCA NOW call XXX XXX XXXX. MY group is the most professional in the business WE REALLY TRAIN AND SPONSOR OUR TEAM.

[phone number removed by mod]

Originally Posted by 190parker

Ok Motor club of america is a great company It always pays me on time and I refer people to the services they offer not the compensation plan. I love how i make commission, overrides residual income. By the way Ive made so much money with MCA. It has changed my life. The point of MCA is to find people who actually need these services not to just recruit random people who dont care for the services. Look I have been in this company and I have made over $100,000 with this company. I love it and I'll never look at another MLM company ever again. If you are just starting with MCA and you need help call me 707 SPAM-IAM. I can get you in the right direction. MCA is POWERFUL and people like this guy are powerless. Remember people its all up to you when it comes to business. JOIN MCA NOW call 707 SPAM-IAM. MY group is the most professional in the business WE REALLY TRAIN AND SPONSOR OUR TEAM.

Jay,
If you wish to come here and defend your business, you may. But spamming us with ads for your personal phone number is not going to be well-received. How would you like it if one of us showed up on your 1micmusic.com site and tried to force Beethoven down the throats of rap fans?

I just happened on this guys video on U-tube previously I had looked at AAA versus MCA. He has found a company previously mentioned on this thread where the benefits line up much more closely to MCA. His conclusion seems the same, even for the same benefits you can get it for less money.

No Ribshaw, it's not the same. MCA also has a benefit package which is the same price as AAA.

Originally Posted by GeminiDogg

No Ribshaw, it's not the same. MCA also has a benefit package which is the same price as AAA.

Please for Ribshaw's benefit if you could display it. Maybe even do a cost benefit breakdown of the three plans.
This was all I could find on the website motorclubofamericaplans. Which I assume is the official website. But there is so much CRAP when I google MCA who can really say, so better set me straight on that too.

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National Motor Club mentioned in the above video.

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Here are benefits and quotes from AAA simple enough to find.

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Originally Posted by GeminiDogg

No Ribshaw, it's not the same. MCA also has a benefit package which is the same price as AAA.

Maybe this is the official website, I hope so the layout is much more visually appealing than the first. Total Security - Motor Club of America

This is the the first plan I saw available, same as the other official website. If there is something else, why is it not offered? And again, would be happy to see your analysis of the costs and benefits. But I am not seeing $180 per year more in goodies over what AAA offers. Arrest and Bail Bonds of $25000 sounds nice, but bail bondsmen do the same thing so you would really need to expand on what the bond costs. And maybe I am an outlier, but I have never needed to post bail. Credit card protection again sounds nice, but everyone who is a victim of a lost of stolen credit card is limited to the first $50 loss. The credit card company covers the rest of the loss, so what's with the other $950?



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NO MOTOR CLUB OF AMERICA IS NOT A SCAM, IM GOING TO BE REAL WITH YOU IF YOU SAY IT IS THEN YOU ARE IGNORANT JUST LIKE THOSE WHO STONED JESUS,,,YOU ARE JUST AS IGNORANT AS THERE WERE,, AND DON'T TAKE A OFFENSE TO IT CAUSE THE MEANING OF IGNORANT IS THE LACK OF KNOWLEGE OF SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW.SO LETS GET DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS YOU HAVE A PRODUCT TO SELL AND YOU GET BENEFITS BUT YOU STILL DON'T DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH, YOU HAVE MILLIONS OF PEOPLE ON YOUTUBE....ONNNNN YOUTUBE.!!!!!!!! DOING THIS NOT ONE......NOT ONE BUT MILLIONS...AND YOU IF YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT HOW MANY OF YOU CAN PULL YOUR OWN AUTO INSURANCE COMPANY UP THAT YOU GO TO, TO PAY YOUR BILL ON YOUR INSURANCE ON BBB??? LETS GET REAL, NOW ITS PLASTERED ALL OVER THE INTERNET AND YES IT IS A PYRAMID, BUT IS IT A SCHEME NO! NO IT IS NOT IF IT WAS A SCAM THERE WOULD NOT BE MANY PEOPLE ON THERE SAYING THEY GOT PAID AN FLASHING MONEY...SORRY BUT IF I HAD 10,000 JUST SITTING IN MY BANK I BE DAMNED IF IM GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY OUT MY WAY JUST TO SHOW PROOF THAT I GOT IT AN IT WAS NOT FROM MCA...GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE...LOL BUT FOR THOSE WHO JUST SAY OH ITS A SCAM,,,I GOT MY CARD BUT I NEVER EVEN USED IT AND I KNOW ITS A SCAM....I GOT MY CARD WHEN I WAS IN IT ALSO AN I GOT TOWED ANYWHERE UP TO 100 MILES...FOR FREE SO PLEASE DO TELL ME WHO IS REALLY FAKE CAUSE HELL I GOT STATE FARM INSURANCE AND THEY MUTHA F**KIN A**ES TRIED TO CHARGE ME AND I PAY ALREADY WITH THEM....SO IT'S NOT FAKE YOU NON BELIEVERS YOU JUST DO NOT HAVE FAITH IN ANYTHING THAT'S ONLINE THAT WOULD WORK UNLESS IT COSTED YOU A ARM AN A LEG....AND ANOTHER THING IF YOU THINK ITS STILL A SCAM PLEASE TELL ME WHY THERE IS A COP...YES I SAID IT A F**KIN COP DOING IT HE IS EVEN ONLINE MAKING MONEY SO IF YOU STILL DON'T BELIEVE AINT NOBODY GOING TO PULL YOUR ARM JUST TO MAKE YOU...THAT'S YOU AN YOUR NONSENSE. BUT HAVE RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO ARE TRYING AND YEAH SO WHAT I'AM ON REALSCAMS.COM CAUSE I'AM CHALLENGING YOU PEOPLE TO DARE TO GO AN SEE THE RESULTS OF MCA,,,DARE TO GO WATCH THE VIDEO'S AND IF YOU HAVE THE F**KING CARD ALREADY I ...DARE YOU TO GO TRY IT SOMEWHERE ...AND WHEN YOU SEE IT WORKS PLEASE RECORD YOUR FACE SO WE CAN SEE HOW DUMB YOU LOOKED TO TRY AN PROVE EVERYONE IT WAS A SCAM. LMFAO.

OH YEAH HERE'S A PROOF VIDEO IF THEY LET ME SHARE IT ABOUT THE COP IN MCA...IN HIS UNIFORM...ON HIS JOB DOING MCA

COP CALLS OUT MCA SCAM?? - YouTube