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    In watching the Cathy Wilcox video there were a couple of very interesting things revealed. The first was that Cathy is Len's ex-wife but also his second ex-wife. The second was he admitted he had not renewed his membership in MENSA. Len did not bring up he was in MENSA, Cathy did. He did reveal a lot of personal insights that I found very interesting, and it was very clear why they are divorced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luzer View Post
    How many MLMer's can you fit in a convention center?
    LOL. How many MLM advocate brains can you fit on the head of a pin? (all of them)
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    In watching the Cathy Wilcox video there were a couple of very interesting things revealed. The first was that Cathy is Len's ex-wife but also his second ex-wife. The second was he admitted he had not renewed his membership in MENSA. Len did not bring up he was in MENSA, Cathy did. He did reveal a lot of personal insights that I found very interesting, and it was very clear why they are divorced.

    To his ever lasting credit, it appears Lenny hasn't jumped from wife to wife as many times as he has jumped from company to company.

    Wonder if Cathy got his downline in the settlement?
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    2014 nominations - 12/17/2014
    So, from the look of it, seems like Lenny is setting it up so he can snag himself a place in the MLM Hall of Shame - excuse me, Hall of Fame.

    Something else he can add to his blusterous resume - excuse me, illustrious resume.
    The whole thing is bizarre. You'd think someone with an alleged IQ higher than 150 would aspire to achieve something in life. Why in he world would you end up chasing an MLM opportunity and then trying to cash in on training and speaking. Makes you look like a shyster in the likes of Kiyosaki or those other wealth gurus with no bonafide credentials.

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    TAMM awards were selected by a group of 100 MLM industry leaders, experts, and experienced veterans.
    Why doesn't Lenny give us the names of these 100 exceptional people?

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    Mr MLM Academy sure says some funny things:





    • February 10 at 3:54pm







    • Len Clements It's so frustrating and disheartending when I see videos like the one I just watched. This young, seemingly smart guy, who has been very enthusiastic about MLM, and appears to have tons of potential, mentions he was in Zeek Rewards, then FHTM, and now WUN. And now, if he follows the typical scenario, he's going to give up, and tell everyone what a "scam" MLM is. <deep sigh>
      February 10 at 4:54pm 3

    That poor kid has learned his lesson the hard way. I would love to see Clem Lemons produce a list of the MLMs he has vetted as legitimate, then all the hapless and desperate masses would know what to do. LOL!!!!

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    Mr MLM Academy sure says some funny things:


    That poor kid has learned his lesson the hard way. I would love to see Clem Lemons produce a list of the MLMs he has vetted as legitimate, then all the hapless and desperate masses would know what to do. LOL!!!!
    All MLM's are legitimate until the FTC shuts them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Mr MLM Academy sure says some funny things:


    That poor kid has learned his lesson the hard way. I would love to see Clem Lemons produce a list of the MLMs he has vetted as legitimate, then all the hapless and desperate masses would know what to do. LOL!!!!
    well......they all are..........except the bad ones. lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Mr MLM Academy sure says some funny things:


    That poor kid has learned his lesson the hard way. I would love to see Clem Lemons produce a list of the MLMs he has vetted as legitimate, then all the hapless and desperate masses would know what to do. LOL!!!!
    A list of legitimate MLM's? Right! Shortest list in the world!!!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    I want to give credit where credit is due. Len has been the subject matter expert in 20 very high profile cases in which he testified. Of those 20, 7 of the cases resulted in convictions for his side, 10 of the cases were dismissed with a settlement, plea deal or case withdrawn, and 3 are still ongoing.

    I do wonder if Len was the expert witness for the side who lost their case, and which cases they were? This is not to imply if they did lose Len did anything wrong.
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    I think your first mistake is thinking these are somehow 'high profile'. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I want to give credit where credit is due. Len has been the subject matter expert in 20 very high profile cases in which he testified. Of those 20, 7 of the cases resulted in convictions for his side, 10 of the cases were dismissed with a settlement, plea deal or case withdrawn, and 3 are still ongoing.

    I do wonder if Len was the expert witness for the side who lost their case, and which cases they were? This is not to imply if they did lose Len did anything wrong.
    I'm sure you have this list, E1:

    Previous Requests and Designations as Expert Witness:
    Hugh Sinclair, et. al. vs. Equinox International; William (Bill) Gouldd et al.
    Superior court of Washington. Case no. 95-2-00781-2.
    Fraud; Illegal Pyramid.
    Plaintiff represented by William Brandt, Kim Hoyt; Ferder, Brandt & Cooper, L.L.P.
    Defendant represented by Douglas Federspiel; Velikanje, Moore & Shore, Inc.
    Represented plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.Gary Benton, et. al. vs. Equinox International; William (Bill) Gouldd, et. al.
    In the 101st Judicial District, Dallas County, TX. Case no. 96-06905.
    Fraud; Illegal Pyramid.
    Plaintiff represented by William Brant, Carla French; Ferder, Brandt & Cooper, L.L.P.
    Defendant represented by J. Stephen Ravel; Bickerstaff, Heath, Smiley & Pollan, L.L.P.
    Represented plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.

    Catherine Powers vs. Equinox International; Advance Marketing Seminars and William Gouldd.
    Maricopa County, Case no. CV 97-11774.
    Fraud; Illegal Pyramid.
    Plaintiff represented by Alfred Ricciardi; Robins & Green, P.A.
    Defendant represented by Troy Froderman, Pamela S. Gates; Bryan Cave, L.L.P.
    Represented plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.

    Russ DeVan vs. Longevity Network, Ltd.
    Privately arbitrated in Henderson, NV.
    Wrongful Termination.
    Plaintiff represented by David Eisenstein.
    Defendant represented by D.J. Poyfair.
    Represented defendant. Parties settled before ruling (plaintiff was not reinstated).

    Kansas City Attorney General vs. The Tax People (aka Renaissance).
    Third Judicial District, Topeka, KS. Case no. 00-C-1394.
    Fraud; Deceptive Trade Practices; Illegal Pyramid.
    Plaintiff represented by Terry Hamblin, Consumer Protection Division.
    Defendant represented by J. R. Hobbs, Marilyn B. Keller; Wytsch, Hobbs, Mirakian & Lee.
    Represented plaintiff as consultant. Plaintiff prevailed.

    Oberski, et al. vs. New Algae Company, dba Cell Tech Inc.
    Massachusetts Superior Court. Case no. 98-294.
    Breach of Contract.
    Plaintiff represented by Lawrence Farber.
    Defendant represented by Jeff Kinder, Fierst & Pucci, LLP.
    Represented defendant. Plaintiff prevailed (was awarded $1.00).

    Longevity Network. vs. American Longevity.
    United States District Court. Case no. CV04-2404-SJO (REx)
    Trademark revocation.
    Plaintiff represented by Michael F. Maschio; Cowan, Liebowitz & Latman, P.C.
    Defendant represented by Michael A. Painter; Isaacman, Kaufman & Painter.
    Represented plaintiff. Testified at trial. Plaintiff prevailed.

    Fugo et al. v. Starlight International
    Superior Court of California, County of Monterey. Case no. M51539
    Wrongful termination.
    Plaintiff represented by David Eisenstein.
    Represented plaintiff. Testified to damages at trial. Plaintiff prevailed (awarded $650,000).

    XanGo vs. New Vision (2006)
    District Court of Utah, Case #2:04cv00405
    Patent infringement.
    Defendant represented by Edwin Wainscott, Quarles & Brady.
    Represented defendant. Defendant prevailed.

    Rasmus Rasmussen & HBW Marketing vs. Tahitian Noni International
    United States District Court, District of Utah. Case no. 2:04CV00241 PGC
    Breach of contract; Wrongful termination.
    Plaintiff represented by David Eisenstein.
    Represented plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.

    Action by IRS & US Postal Inspection Service vs. Michael Cooper (The Tax People).
    Agency liaison was: Henry Herron, Special Agent, Treasury Department
    5800 Bannister Road, Ste. 302, Kansas City, MO, 64134, 816-966-2535
    Henry.Herron@ci.irs.gov
    Fraud; Tax Evasion; Illegal Pyramid.
    Testified at trial as Witness for the Prosecution. Prosecution prevailed.

    Martin Malmskov vs. Tahitian Noni International
    United States District Court, District of Utah. Case no. 2:08-cv-00085-DS
    Breach of contract; Wrongful termination.
    Plaintiff represented by David Eisenstein.
    Representing plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.

    Doron Brenner v. Matt Rasmussen (distributor for ACN).
    California Superior Court, Santa Cruz County. Case no. CV165593
    Breach of Contract.
    Participated on behalf of the plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.

    AmeriPlan vs. Evelyn Walker, et al.
    116th Judicial District, Dallas County, TX. Cause no. DC-09-00761
    Breach of Contract; Tortious Interference.
    Participated on behalf of the plaintiff. Case abated day before trail.

    Matt Rasmussen v. Organo Gold, et al.
    United States District Court, Northern District of California. Case no. C-12-1104-HRL
    RICO Violation; Unfair Competition; Tortious Interference; Civil Conspiracy; Slander per se.
    Participated on behalf of the plaintiff. Parties settled before trial.

    Ron Heck & Nancy Heck v. AmeriPlan Corporation
    192nd Judicial District, Dallas County, TX. Cause no. DC-11-06280-K
    Breach of Contract; Fraud.
    Participated on behalf of the defendant. Case abated.

    United States v. Aneal V. Maharaj
    United States District Court, District of Nevada. Case no. 2:05-cr-0364-JCM-LRL
    Mail Fraud; Wire Fraud; Bank Fraud; Money Laundering.
    Participated on behalf of the defendant. Case settled per Plea Agreement.

    Christian Coffinet v. INS USA, Inc., Ola Madsen, et. al.
    Superior Court for the District of Los Angeles, CA. Case no. SC-111260
    Fraud; Illegal Pyramid.
    Participated on behalf of the plaintiff. Plaintiff prevailed.

    Nichole Aubert v. LifeWave, Inc.
    State Court of Gwinnett County, State of Georgia. Case no. 4C-01520-2
    Wrongful termination; Lost Income
    Participating on behalf of the defendant. Case is currently active.

    Robert Danuff v. Nerium International, et al.
    Superior Court of the State of California, for the County of Orange. Case no. 30-2013 00680970-CU-PO-CJC
    Negligence; Lost Income.
    Participating on behalf of the plaintiff. Case is currently active.

    Matthew Nestler v. Jeunesse Global, and Kevin Giguere
    Circuit Court for the Eighteenth Judicial Circuit, for Seminole County, Florida.
    Wrongful Termination; Lost Income.
    Participating on behalf of the plaintiff. Case is currently active.
    As for your definition of "high profile case", or Lenny's part in these cases, I have no idea.

    I posted this list over on Quatloos! figuring Wes might pop in, take a look, and maybe comment.

    Then there are those "declined for ethical reasons" puzzlers:

    People vs. Gold Unlimited (via third party representative).
    1991
    Declined for ethical reasons.


    Action by Fresno District Attorney against representative of Marathon
    1992
    Declined for ethical reasons.

    Heritage Health Products (defendant) in action by Distributor.
    1993
    Declined to participate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    I think your first mistake is thinking these are somehow 'high profile'. lol
    I should have clarified that in the MLM world they were considered high profile cases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I should have clarified that in the MLM world they were considered high profile cases.
    Yep,

    MLMers suing other MLMers.

    Reading through the list, there appears to be a whole of grubby little people doing grubby little things to other grubby little people.
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    This post isn't meant to be funny. All I can think about while reading this thread is something similar to the Prison Industry Awards aka "A SLAMMY"

    AWARD CATEGORIES:
    *Inmate who has been in the most prisons
    *Inmate with the biggest network to distribute paraphernalia
    *Inmate who has been in the longest
    *Inmate who has stolen the most money
    *Inmate who has caused the most harm to others, financially, physically, and mentally

    And the most prestigious SLAMMY,

    *Inmate who has managed to earn the most money by selling programs on "How to become an inmate in the Prison Industry", and accomplish all of the above.

    A bunch of sleazy con men (and women) congratulating each other. Makes me sick, and laugh, all at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Char View Post
    This post isn't meant to be funny. All I can think about while reading this thread is something similar to the Prison Industry Awards aka "A SLAMMY"

    AWARD CATEGORIES:
    *Inmate who has been in the most prisons
    *Inmate with the biggest network to distribute paraphernalia
    *Inmate who has been in the longest
    *Inmate who has stolen the most money
    *Inmate who has caused the most harm to others, financially, physically, and mentally

    And the most prestigious SLAMMY,

    *Inmate who has managed to earn the most money by selling programs on "How to become an inmate in the Prison Industry", and accomplish all of the above.

    A bunch of sleazy con men (and women) congratulating each other. Makes me sick, and laugh, all at the same time.
    That's a good summary. Even the mother of a crook loves her child after all.

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    I see this thread is moving up nicely in the search rankings!

    Type in "The Academy of Multilevel Marketing" and this thread is around the 4th spot or so.

    BTW, Lenny, how come you don't have a slide on your home page, along with the other 2013 recipients, announcing Herbalife as "Company of the Year 2013"?

    Might it have something to do with the fact that, as reported on ABC News (and other places) that...

    As has been reported publicly, Herbalife is now under formal investigation by the Federal Trade Commission, the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the Canadian Competition Bureau, as well as a criminal investigation by the Department of Justice and Federal Bureau of Investigation. The New York and Illinois Attorneys General have also recently disclosed investigations of the company.

    "TAMM honors those that exemplify the "gold standards" of the industry!"


    Gotcha!

    I had a cousin Enrique who changed his name to "Hairball-Life" when he talked himself into believing that the products he was peddling would prevent what accumulated in his stomach from turning to concrete.
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    I see this thread is moving up nicely in the search rankings!

    Might it have something to do with the fact that, as reported on ABC News (and other places) that...
    The irony would be amazing if Hebralife had won all the MLM awards only to get shut down by the FTC 2 years later. I wonder how Len would defend that?


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    I wonder how Len would defend that?
    Probably insist Hairball Lice do the ethical thing and return their awards.
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    Probably insist Hairball Lice do the ethical thing and return their awards.
    I could see an MLM apologist saying Herbalife was legal when they won the award and saying they should keep it.

    Seriously though, I don't know Clem Lements well enough to know if he's that radical or not. I just don't see what he's actually accomplished in all his 30 years of MLM that would give him any kind of a "wow" factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luzer View Post
    Seriously though, I don't know Clem Lements well enough to know if he's that radical or not.
    lol. all you have to do is read any of his responses when people don't automatically agree with him.

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    CEO of the Year

    B.K. Boreyko*

    BK Boreyko: The CEO and founder of Vemma is BK Boreyko.

    Turns out, BK's real name is Benson. I also found out that Benson had a Multi-Level-Marketing company in the 90's (extremely similar to Vemma) called New Vision International Inc. This company had a product they called God's Recipe (yes, I am being serious) and claimed to cure ADD and ADHD in children. The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) of the USA disagreed with this claim and Benson and his brother were SUED.

    Here is the official report: https://web.archive.org/web/20070530...8/12/nvi2.shtm

    "Why I did not join Vemma and what I learned about the Company"
    For Release: December 8, 1998

    Multi -Level Marketing Company to Settle FTC Charges That It Made Unsubstantiated Claims That Its "God's Recipe" Dietary Regimen Could Cure ADD/ADHD

    ... According to the FTC's complaint detailing the charges, the respondents did not have a reasonable basis to substantiate their claims that:

    - God's Recipe can cure, prevent, treat or mitigate ADD/ADHD, or its symptoms;

    - God's Recipe is an effective alternative treatment to the prescription drug Ritalin; or

    - testimonials from consumers in their ads reflect the typical or ordinary experience of consumers whose children have used God's Recipe.
    Also, an excerpt from Vemma:

    For 16 years, New Vision has been committed to providing products to better your health and business. That's why we continually assess our operations based on trends established by our Team Members and Consumers. After careful consideration, we've decided to transfer New Vision business operations to our sister Company, Vemma Nutrition Company.

    I don't know about you, but if I was sued and wanted to do something very similar to what I was sued for again, I would change the name of my company and also change my name.

    And they haven't learned:


    And that there, folks, is just a sampling of the CEO of the Year as selected by the Academy of Multilevel Marketing.

    Would you expect any less?
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    lol. all you have to do is read any of his responses when people don't automatically agree with him.
    I've only seen a few of his posts online but out of those few, a good number of them were pretty snippy and posted with arrogance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    The Academy of Multilevel Marketing Awards recently released its winners for 2013. We are proud to announce that the Alkalete PH Balance product was selected as Product of the Year. TAMM chooses this prestigious award out of just five superior products as nominated each year in January. (Yoli's) Alkalete won this year for its ability to have a positive affect on and support overall health.


    Another desperate attempt by Clem Lemons to bail out a Titanic in the sinking!
    This award is obviously a joke. TAMM might as well stand for The Academy of Misfits & Morons.

    But seriously . . . has Lenny ever made a profit selling Alkalete or any other Yoli Product?

    For that matter, has he ever made a profit selling anything?

    We do know for a fact that he likes to brag about his high IQ, but I find it strange that somebody with such a high intellect never made it very far in college. I wonder if that really bothers him? Maybe he brags about his IQ because he's trying to cover up his feelings of inadequacy and a lifetime of underachievement.

    Although this award is worthless, I get the feeling that by giving this to Yoli, Lenny is expecting something in return . . . whatever that may be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Wolf View Post
    This award is obviously a joke. TAMM might as well stand for The Academy of Misfits & Morons.

    But seriously . . . has Lenny ever made a profit selling Alkalete or any other Yoli Product?

    For that matter, has he ever made a profit selling anything?

    We do know for a fact that he likes to brag about his high IQ, but I find it strange that somebody with such a high intellect never made it very far in college. I wonder if that really bothers him? Maybe he brags about his IQ because he's trying to cover up his feelings of inadequacy and a lifetime of underachievement.

    Although this award is worthless, I get the feeling that by giving this to Yoli, Lenny is expecting something in return . . . whatever that may be.
    Agreed. The whole thing sounds like a joke. You can kiss up but awarding something to an MLM company and then hope they move you up the pyramid or at least give you some kind of kick back.

    Len seems to be an interesting character, but I question the "smarts" of someone who devoted all that time to defending a shady industry like MLM.

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