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    The Fusion Shopping Network

    Hey Glim, Fusions comp plan is done. I believe if you contact Frank or Cynthia they can email it to you. You can also access it when you become an affiliate. Everything is done legally. You can check out there bio's here. Fusion Shopping Network :: About

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    Hey Glim, Fusions comp plan is done. I believe if you contact Frank or Cynthia they can email it to you. You can also access it when you become an affiliate. Everything is done legally. You can check out there bio's here. Fusion Shopping Network :: About
    Howdy legoman, welcome to Realscam.

    I saw your threads about Fusion over at MMG was was thinking of asking you about the comp plan over there, thank you for stopping by. I see the comp plan isn't available to the public on their site but you say that it is to the people who enroll in the program? Before or after paying $149?

    I've listened in to a few of the calls, they seem to be saying a lot of the right things but the devil, as always, is in the details. I know Frank got burned in Zeek, Cynthia in Zeek and (I think) Pro Sun and I'd like to think they came out of that experience with a heightened appreciation for legitimacy and best practices. Or conversely, the implications of not doing so. I'll give them the benefit of doubt till they give reason to do otherwise but I will say, if they're comp plan is as squeaky clean as they claim, I can't think of a single bushel worth hiding it under.

    And just from an obligatory "I helped make the rules so need to abide by them" standpoint, this particular topic is for Profitable Sunrise. Feel free to start a new one for Fusion Shopping Network if you please (particularly if you get details of the comp plan) but off topic posts in unrelated threads aren't encouraged. Legoman didn't start this sidetrack and I appreciate him coming here and bringing news but the "traffic cop" in me says it's time to move along
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Dear Glim,

    This from "this Cynthia Basinger woman". Indeed you are correct in terms of your reference to my "heavy" involvement with The Fusion Shopping Network. I am the Director of Sales & Marketing. I would be happy to give you an interview if you so desire and apprise you about our company and its current status.

    I became involved in network marketing over 30 years ago, dabbling in Amway, Neways, Melaleuca, Telecard Network, and NuSkin. I took a long hiatus from the industry because it involved too much time away from home and family, my first priorities. Later, when I learned about Zeek, the online, virtual nature of that business was appealing. As far as my involvement in this business and subsequently Profitable Sunrise, I'm sorry to acknowledge that I was naive -- too trusting -- in people who appeared to be legitimate and thus led me to believe that certain programs I would just as soon forget about were not operating honestly and legitimately. Sadly, as I am certain you are aware, I wasn't the only trusting soul, as you can well appreciate. Live and learn. Happily I am doing both.

    Inasmuch as I understand you participate in our conference calls, you must therefore realize that we do not intend to do anything that would warrant our company being the subject of discussions on your site. I respect your efforts at exposing companies who refuse to live by the rules. They -- the rules -- are there for our protection. Note that my "day job" is managing a law firm. I have held this position for over 12 years. It would be extremely irresponsible for me to venture into anything intentionally that was illegitimate or a scam.

    I applaud your attention to all things shoddy. It's a dirty job, but I guess someone's got to do it.

    Sincerely,

    Cynthia Basinger

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    The Fusion Shopping Network

    I start this thread, having become curious about its subject as a result of the post (reproduced below) by "cbasinger" from page (ahem) 97 of the Profitable Sunrise thread. GD noted that the discussion it started properly belongs elsewhere. So here we are.

    From the relatively small amount of available information, the Fusion Shopping Network ("Fusion") wishes to be a type of MLM buyers' club. Details are very sketchy, despite the fact that the domain was registered (through GoDaddy) some five months ago. BTW, the address the registrant gave is (according to Zillow) an 1100-sq-ft condo. They claim that they are worth belonging to because one will get discounts on certain eGift items. How much you will realize in savings, if any, of course depends on the amount of the discount, and whether similar discounts are available from something as straightforward as Amazon. It's hard to tell, since they have no products for sale.

    The absence of products doesn't stop them from selling the "opportunity". They boast of a "commission and referral plan second to none – developed by a prestigious group of the world’s top loyalty consultants, lawyers and business pros". As was observed in the other thread, they don't tell you what it is. In fact, on their "Terms and Conditions" page, they say that "Fusion Shopping Network has not yet completed the design and programming of its compensation plan". Guess that "prestigious group of the world’s top loyalty consultants, lawyers and business pros" takes its time. But trust them and sign up anyway. Having agreed to all these various pigs in pokes, you are then told to pay $150. The only product available is the membership.

    Oh, by the way, did you notice that gleaming steel-and-glass office building on their home page? Well, it isn't them. They give their address as 109 E. 17th St., Suite 4678, Cheyenne, WY 82002. That's a "virtual office", the current euphemism for a fancy mail drop. Pay somewhere between $150 and $350 a month, and someone will answer your phone, forward your mail, and otherwise pretend you have an office.

    But perhaps Ms. Basinger, their "Director of Sales & Marketing", can make it look more attractive.

    Quote Originally Posted by cbasinger View Post
    I became involved in network marketing over 30 years ago, dabbling in Amway, Neways, Melaleuca, Telecard Network, and NuSkin.
    Encouraging.

    Later, when I learned about Zeek, the online, virtual nature of that business was appealing. As far as my involvement in this business and subsequently Profitable Sunrise, I'm sorry to acknowledge that I was naive -- too trusting -- in people who appeared to be legitimate and thus led me to believe that certain programs I would just as soon forget about were not operating honestly and legitimately.
    So much for thirty years of network marketing experience. Hey, folks here and elsewhere knew they were scams from Day One.

    Sadly, as I am certain you are aware, I wasn't the only trusting soul, as you can well appreciate.
    I actually don't think it has much to do with trust or naďveté‎. All it took to identify those two as scams were an objective viewpoint and the IQ of bowl of ramen. Since I believe you have the latter, I doubt you have the former. Even if you were not larcenous, you were greedy. Not the best traits for a "Director of Sales & Marketing".

    Note that my "day job" is managing a law firm. I have held this position for over 12 years. It would be extremely irresponsible for me to venture into anything intentionally that was illegitimate or a scam.
    I completely agree. I am glad you concur that your "ventures" into Zeek and Profitable Sunrise show that you are extremely irresponsible.

    I applaud your attention to all things shoddy. It's a dirty job, but I guess someone's got to do it.
    There's nothing dirty about exposing scams. The dirty part is promoting them. Remember saying the following?

    About Profitable Sunrise: "I got back every penny I deposited and then some and would have continued to do so if the US regulators hadn't stepped in."

    Also about Profitable Sunrise: "Article says no complaints have been received by Wisconsin investors. The regulators as usual don't understand the business model. If this were a Ponzi, we would not be told we would need to withdraw half of our Long Haul balance. We would not be able to draw out our daily interest earnings from the private plan. No money could come out at all unless it was from the first in. This is so not an illegitimate business."

    About Zeek: “Zeek Rewards wasn’t a Ponzi, I think this whole thing is a big misunderstanding”.

    And people should trust you for financial advice?
    "A wise man proportions belief to the evidence."
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

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    Dear Glim,

    This from "this Cynthia Basinger woman". Indeed you are correct in terms of your reference to my "heavy" involvement with The Fusion Shopping Network. I am the Director of Sales & Marketing. I would be happy to give you an interview if you so desire and apprise you about our company and its current status.

    I became involved in network marketing over 30 years ago, dabbling in Amway, Neways, Melaleuca, Telecard Network, and NuSkin. I took a long hiatus from the industry because it involved too much time away from home and family, my first priorities. Later, when I learned about Zeek, the online, virtual nature of that business was appealing. As far as my involvement in this business and subsequently Profitable Sunrise, I'm sorry to acknowledge that I was naive -- too trusting -- in people who appeared to be legitimate and thus led me to believe that certain programs I would just as soon forget about were not operating honestly and legitimately. Sadly, as I am certain you are aware, I wasn't the only trusting soul, as you can well appreciate. Live and learn. Happily I am doing both.

    Inasmuch as I understand you participate in our conference calls, you must therefore realize that we do not intend to do anything that would warrant our company being the subject of discussions on your site. I respect your efforts at exposing companies who refuse to live by the rules. They -- the rules -- are there for our protection. Note that my "day job" is managing a law firm. I have held this position for over 12 years. It would be extremely irresponsible for me to venture into anything intentionally that was illegitimate or a scam.

    I applaud your attention to all things shoddy. It's a dirty job, but I guess someone's got to do it.

    Sincerely,

    Cynthia Basinger
    Thank you for stopping by Cynthia, welcome to RealScam.

    We all have a past and we've all made mistakes, all that really maters is what we do from here. I have listened to a couple of your calls and can faithfully report that you people are saying all the right things. You hired competent legal counsel (Grimes and Reese) and hopefully are following their advice in ways that Paul Burks only pretended to. From where I'm sitting now I do not believe your company's intentions are anything less than honorable.

    That being said there is little information available about your business model and even less about your compensation plan. I'm sure you understand that no one, myself included can reach an informed opinion about your company without those details. Your website went live what, two days ago? I don't think you're even officially in full launch mode. So it isn't much of an issue that a full presentation of your companies particulars isn't yet public but from a best practices stand point making that information available should be a priority.

    To take your word, and Frank's at face value your company will never become much of a topic around here but it will draw mention. I'd like to give you some time to make your information available before starting a separate topic but one will be created. If nothing else than to keep this thread on it's own topic.

    And a late edit to add a link to the Fusion Shopping Network discussion thread.
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    Re: The Fusion Shopping Network

    From LinkedIn:

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    Firm Administrator at Knox, Lemmon, Anapolsky & Schrimp, LLP

    Sacramento, California AreaLaw Practice



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    Meet the brilliant cbasinger, who registered here using her e-mail from the law firm listed above. They will no doubt be overjoyed to have their staff publicly tangled up in various scams and uneconomic schemes.

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    Re: The Fusion Shopping Network

    Wouldn't want the company Facebook page run by our charming Cynthia to be lost:

    Fusion Entertainment LLC.pdf

    Law enforcement and her employers might find this quite handy!

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    From the Pro Sun thread Wes linked to above:

    Quote Originally Posted by cbasinger View Post
    Dear Glim,

    This from "this Cynthia Basinger woman". Indeed you are correct in terms of your reference to my "heavy" involvement with The Fusion Shopping Network. I am the Director of Sales & Marketing. I would be happy to give you an interview if you so desire and apprise you about our company and its current status.

    I became involved in network marketing over 30 years ago, dabbling in Amway, Neways, Melaleuca, Telecard Network, and NuSkin. I took a long hiatus from the industry because it involved too much time away from home and family, my first priorities. Later, when I learned about Zeek, the online, virtual nature of that business was appealing. As far as my involvement in this business and subsequently Profitable Sunrise, I'm sorry to acknowledge that I was naive -- too trusting -- in people who appeared to be legitimate and thus led me to believe that certain programs I would just as soon forget about were not operating honestly and legitimately. Sadly, as I am certain you are aware, I wasn't the only trusting soul, as you can well appreciate. Live and learn. Happily I am doing both.

    Inasmuch as I understand you participate in our conference calls, you must therefore realize that we do not intend to do anything that would warrant our company being the subject of discussions on your site. I respect your efforts at exposing companies who refuse to live by the rules. They -- the rules -- are there for our protection. Note that my "day job" is managing a law firm. I have held this position for over 12 years. It would be extremely irresponsible for me to venture into anything intentionally that was illegitimate or a scam.

    I applaud your attention to all things shoddy. It's a dirty job, but I guess someone's got to do it.

    Sincerely,

    Cynthia Basinger
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    Thank you for stopping by Cynthia, welcome to RealScam.

    We all have a past and we've all made mistakes, all that really maters is what we do from here. I have listened to a couple of your calls and can faithfully report that you people are saying all the right things. You hired competent legal counsel (Grimes and Reese) and hopefully are following their advice in ways that Paul Burks only pretended to. From where I'm sitting now I do not believe your company's intentions are anything less than honorable.

    That being said there is little information available about your business model and even less about your compensation plan. I'm sure you understand that no one, myself included can reach an informed opinion about your company without those details. Your website went live what, two days ago? I don't think you're even officially in full launch mode. So it isn't much of an issue that a full presentation of your companies particulars isn't yet public but from a best practices stand point making that information available should be a priority.

    To take your word, and Frank's at face value your company will never become much of a topic around here but it will draw mention. I'd like to give you some time to make your information available before starting a separate topic but one will be created. If nothing else than to keep this thread on it's own topic.
    We have a not fully launched company with a two day old website and a lot of missing information. Perhaps not the best way to introduce a company but nothing all that damning. I'm not sticking up for Fusion Shopping Network, just pointing out that there isn't enough information to form an opinion of them as of yet.

    Approaching this from "what we can say" about them standpoint, while their founders do have some impressive credentials (Dr. George in particular) none of them have any corporate experience in network marketing. Mrs. Basinger has a background in the field which will be valuable to the company and experience as a business manager but unless FSN has hired outside consultants there doesn't appear to be anyone there with practical experience in running a company of this type. While there are some here who would count this as a plus (at least relative to some of the people who do run companies like this) this really is yet another question. There are challenges in any business but MLM companies have some issues unique to themselves, will this leadership team be able to translate their previous experiences productively to a new industry?

    Again, these questions can not be answered at this time. But as answers emerge we will post them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    Mrs. Basinger has a background in the field
    from which she defended both Zeek and Profitable Sunrise. I really don't need to know anything else.

    You're a charitable guy, GD.

    There are challenges in any business but MLM companies have some issues unique to themselves
    Chief among them being "How can we sell a fercockt business model to people who don't know better?"
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    from which she defended both Zeek and Profitable Sunrise. I really don't need to know anything else.

    You're a charitable guy, GD.

    LOL, not charity, humanity. I've been a damn fool before and it takes a continuing effort not to be one again. I'll take blame for my faults but it's easier to ask credit for the effort if I'm willing to extend the same courtesy.

    I have a much better memory for faces than I do for names and while not in any way a representative sample, judging by the facebook profile pictures of many of Fusion Shopping Networks early supporters I wouldn't be surprised if most of them were former Zeek Rewards members. Is that, in and of itself a red flag? Just based on their early marketing I'm not sure it is. Granted, this is a point in the conversation where the details of the comp plan would come in handy but just looking at how this company is being presented so far I don't think I'd call it a reload scam yet. It's very early in the game but so far I don't see any of the high level ponzi pimps paying this program any attention. That isn't a bad thing.

    But again, there are still many unanswered questions.


    Chief among them being "How can we sell a fercockt business model to people who don't know better?"

    Don't forget a few gonifs who do know better to help rope the others in. I share the rational skepticism about MLM that is common here. But there is such thing as a legal multilevel marketing company. Even if I wouldn't recommend joining one I will admit it's better to join a legal one than an illegal one. We don't have enough information about Fusion yet to say which side of the line they fall on but I expect that to change soon. Am I wrong to give them the benefit of doubt till we know for sure? I don't think I'm trying to be optimistic I'm just waiting for the facts to come in.
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    ... But there is such thing as a legal multilevel marketing company.....
    Correction, not legal but "legitimized".
    And I hope not for long.

    There is nothing legal in stealing money in pyramid fashion.

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    Correction, not legal but "legitimized".
    And I hope not for long.

    There is nothing legal in stealing money in pyramid fashion.
    NikSam, I haven't earned the honor of calling you friend but I've long appreciated your contributions here. Argue what you think the law should be and many odds are we wont disagree. But you've grown past kiddy table debates where words mean only what we'd like then to. You can argue that MLM should only be considered "legitimized" but you can't say it isn't "legal." The facts aren't with you there so that isn't a beach worth fighting on. We'd be much better served by arguing what is true and should bloody well be obvious.

    What is the Direct Seller's Association definition of the word "customer"? They don't have nor do I expect them to ever have one. They are one of the better funded and more prominent political pressure groups lobbing on the behalf of their member companies and because of that they have no incentive to define a simple and fundamental concept like what a "customer" is. You see there is no law anywhere that forces MLM companies to include people who only wish to purchase products (perhaps at a discount) with people who view the company as an income opportunity. So it's perhaps safe to assume to only reason they refuse to draw a clear line between product buyers and opportunity seekers is because it would give a more accurate indication of the average income those opportunity seekers really do receive. My impression is that accurate average earnings isn't a statistic your typical MLM company would wish to use as a selling point or else they wouldn't try to pretend that some income opportunity seeks are really just "customers." In my humble opinion this is a better type of argument to make against the industry than just trying to pretend that the industry isn't legal.

    Growing up American ABC TV had a series of Saturday morning public service announcement's called School House Rock. A bunch of commercial length educational shorts running the gamut of math and grammar basics to elemental civics. One told the story of how a bill becomes a law [YouTube link]. While I hate to trash the idealism of my childhood but to be honest, bills get written by companies or the special interest groups who represent them and once they buy enough of our elected officials they become law. A rather small number of people make a mega-crapload of money off MLM and either through direct lobbying or through groups like the DSA laws get passed which are not designed to advance the interests of average MLM affiliates so much as the people who own MLM companies. That's why there isn't a legal definition of the word "customer" as it relates to MLM opportunities.

    If we're going to argue against the abuses of this industry, and we are going argue against the abuses of this industry, let's not waste time pretending that what is isn't. Let's focus on why what is shouldn't be.
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    This reminds me of all the hype that Ultimate Power Profits/Global Online shopping network had that never got off the ground; and also Wake Up Now which was also going to be this great MLM shopping club opportunity which also crashed and burned. Kind of hard to do any due diligence when none of the links work except to signup and give them money. Real great opportunity my assets. I hope Cynthia is a better office manager than she is a judge of legitimate and legal programs.
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    @Eagleone, the above post Cynthia has explained about past mistakes. Rest assure Dr Frank George And Cynthia are not here to launch a scam program. Some members above here have the mentality to shoot first and ask questions later which is immature and unprofessional in opinion and to judge someone by there past poorly choices in programs. I wish there were more intelligent people here like GlimDropper and You. The Comp plan is 10 pages long and even has a glossary section so you can understand what your reading. A power point is soon to follow to share with people, but we're still in soft launch phase. Commissions, bonuses are base on sales, not recruiting. Maybe that's why the ponzi pimps have said no.For more info and if you would like to set up a interview with Dr George or Cynthia, I'm sure they would be more than happy to.

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    Its difficult to come up with new and creative ways to say "give me a break", but let's give it a good ole try.

    If Fusion Shopping was offering to broker heating oil or gallons of milk to members at a discount, then sign me up. Discounting stuff at retail in any capacity, and operating under the pretense that affiliates are somehow going to be able to make a buck doing anything other than recruiting new members? Color me skeptical, but lil ole me is going to compete with Amazon and EBAY? Right after they feature my abs on the cover of this month's Men's Health.

    No product or prices to evaluate, just the promise that this is going to be big. The gist I got was the brokering of discount cards or codes at the consumer level. Is this not already being done in spades and why on earth are affiliates needed to do it? Set up a website, if the value is there people will buy= Easy Peasy. One can go to Ebay or any host of other sites and find these items readily available at a discount. The more popular the merchant, the lower the discount. I am left wondering, where does the commission fit in, does the merchant give a bigger cut to make the affiliate rich? Seems unlikely.

    If I am at a store and want to know the best price available for almost anything I can have a 12 year old use their smartphone to find it for me. Next go to the manager and play let's make a deal. If they want the sale, they will usually match the price. Not sure where the affiliate marketer comes into that transaction?

    As Eagle mentioned, there are a whole host of buying club type set-ups where dissatisfaction is the norm. Yeah, I am sure this is going to be different.

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    Legoman, could I ask a favor?

    The ten page comp plan you decribe, is it in PDF or some other portable document format? If it is and unless FSN has objections, could you post it here?

    If instead of using the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom of the page you click "Go Advanced" and get a larger selection of post controls. One of them looks like a paperclip and manages attachments. Click on that and it walks you through the steps to upload a file like a PDF and make it available on site.

    I think the best way to prove what the comp plan is, is to make it public.
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    I think the best way to prove what the comp plan is, is to make it public.

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    Yes its in pdf, no sorry can't post it yet. By the way wserra posts is unacceptable damaging to my friend Cynthia's character. If you want to converse professionally please have your members show professionalism. Thanks Glim.

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    to judge someone by there (sic) past poorly (sic) choices in programs. I wish there were more intelligent people here
    Man, I really need to find a source for stronger irony meters.
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    By the way wserra posts is unacceptable damaging to my friend Cynthia's character.
    Quoting her own words - that's really hitting below the belt.
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    uite a trail of devatation in their wake no doubt.Re: The Fusion Shopping Network

    <snip first heaping pile of dung>......
    2. We can take contributions. We can raise revenue through affordable donations from those who believe in our business model and our quest to create and nurture a long term MLM business that we can all be proud of for many years to come. This can quickly provide much if not all the money needed to keep gaining momentum towards launch.

    Notice the use of the word “donations.” Why not do what most network marketing companies do during a “prelaunch”? You are all aware of network marketing companies that have used the enticement of prelaunch benefits to illegally raise startup money by promising special positions or other advantages to those who “get in first!” What’s up with this “get in first” baloney? If the company is more than a fly-by-night scam, why the urgency to get in first? Any company intending to be around for a long time should have an opportunity that benefits EVERY SINGLE PERSON regardless of when they join. If not, then you should run away, fast! The SEC and FTC are cracking down severely on this. Want it from the “horse’s mouth? Go to our website and click on “FTC INFO” and “SEC INFO.”

    It is important to understand that accepting investments without providing a stake in the company is selling unregistered securities to unqualified investors. I’m sure many of you remember the legal hassles created by companies who made that mistake. In the past, many MLM companies got away with this. Those days are over. Promising a “get-in-first” contributor a favorable position in exchange for money creates a legal but unfulfillable contract. When the company does not launch, which is too often the case, it is exposed to potential breach of contract lawsuits from every person who put in their “got-duped-first” money that lined the pockets of just a few. How many times has this happened? How many of you have been duped by overhyped promises? We are sure this has left many of you jaded, suspicious and skeptical.

    Know this - we will always work our hardest to not do ANYTHING that jeopardizes our record of integrity with any agency, partner or distributor. Our company WILL NOT take prelaunch contributions in exchange for any type of company advantage. EVERYONE will have the same opportunity for success - today and years into the future. Would you want it any other way?

    So what can we do? As mentioned in option #2, we can accept donations. Based upon our investigations and the opinions of our MLM and other legal counsel and consultants, this is very legitimate because there is no false promise of anything in return and so there is no real or implied contract created. Many companies will eagerly tell you if you give them your money, you will get something fabulous in exchange, even though you likely end up with nothing. We won’t do that. We will not promise any material return. You are contributing to our goal because you believe in what we’re doing and because you want this company to succeed.

    So, let’s be clear about our goal. We intend to create a completely legitimate, long-term business opportunity for anyone who has a dream they would like to build on. A marketing network with a strong and innovative compensation plan that will attract many thousands and products and services that will attract millions. But we won’t do one thing – we will not make money standing on the backs of others’ failed dreams! A few have heard Frank say this – “I would rather die with an empty wallet than an empty soul.”

    If you are going to contribute your hard earned money and be part of our team, we want you to be fully informed every step of the way. Rather than hearing first or second hand that “this company is highly vetted (when in the past we were told that and indeed it was not), the founders have experience with start-ups that succeeded - check out Regenesis Biomedical | Provant® Therapy System and YouTube: AmethystTechnologies Frank George. You will be on the front line of what is happening as this company builds toward launch. We believe you deserve to know what is at stake if we are asking for contributions. Now, please do not judge us as being undercapitalized. Most successful companies started on a shoe string. Apple, Facebook and Google all practically started in garages with more brains than bucks. Why do you think those other companies give you scam promises?? But, in our case, Dr. George personally invested the funds needed to get our Company started and put all the pieces in place. He has “put the money where the mouth is.” It is now time to open the gates and get launched.

    We are very good at what we do. More importantly, you are all very good at what you do. But we are phenomenal together! And although that is not all that it takes to succeed, it is a significant component. Yes this company is “in development.” We have had experience with start-ups and developing companies in the past we are prepared for the challenges ahead. If you take a chance and contribute to our company, your contribution will be used 100% to help get the company to launch as soon as possible. These funds will initially be held, and if we do not raise sufficient capital, your donation will be returned.

    What will you receive? Satisfaction that you are helping create an opportunity for many to fulfill their dreams over the long term, not just a few for a short time. Now, if the company has a successful launch, at that time we will joyously thank you with a gift. In this case, we feel it is a special and fitting gift – free bids! to be used as you see fit.

    We are asking you to join with us in an adventure that will see many moments of joy, annoyance, enthusiasm, anxiety, anticipation – wow, pretty much everything you would expect when pursuing your dreams, right? Yes, it will be challenging, but a challenge worthy of acceptance. This challenge needs a truly cohesive network, with that “in it together” mentality.

    We believe we can do this with all of you. Actually, we BELIEVE in all of you. You have demonstrated amazing success in the past. Sadly, your efforts were not supported by strong companies with strong leadership. We can build that strong company. So if you wish to be a part of this, if you believe it CAN be done right, we invite you to climb aboard.

    Thank you so very much for your belief, hope and support in what we are creating.
    With warmest regards,


    Frank R. George, Ph.D. & Cynthia Basinger
    Fusion Entertainment LLC
    Notice for tax purposes
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    Contributions or gifts to Fusion Entertainment LLC are not deductible as charitable contributions for Federal income tax purposes.
    These little diatribes are beyond delightful. Contributions / donations???? That conveniently lets the scammers relieve one of their hard earned money whilst leaving them no recourse when they abscond with it. Obviously, from the content of this silly chatter, these clowns have been around the block more than a few times. A trail of devastation in their wake no doubt. Peachy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by legoman View Post
    If you want to converse professionally please have your members show professionalism.
    Ribshaw laid out what us considers to be some serious business hurdles you are up against, would be happy if you could address those. While he may be one of the more immature people one will ever meet, I can put his collar on if there is a real discussion to be had.
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    wait, they already taking money but do not say what for ?
    not before they take it ? not after ?

    Donations (Contributions) to MLM :) what is this ? what planet is it on ?

    Is Donald Kernan on it ?

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    Re: The Fusion Shopping Network

    The following was removed from the veritable cesspool of the internet, MMG and I had to retrieve it from the Google cache:

    Fusion Shopping Network - Fusionshoppingnetwork.com, 3x6 Forced Matrix - Global Fusion Debit Card


    Legoman Jan 10 2014, 03:58 PM
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    New MoneyMaker
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    Joined: 10-January 14


    Introducing Fusion Shopping Network!!!

    Now Everyone Can Earn Money While Saving Money!
    Learn More About This Amazing Business


    Attend The Weekly Conference Calls Every Thursday at
    5:00 PM PST|8:00 PM EST
    Phone: (206)-402-0879 PIN Code: 39182#



    Hear About:

    • Instant Online Shopping Rewards
    • E commerce Site
    • Auction and Games Site
    • Currently 50 -70 “Instant Download” retailers
    • Over 200 “Household” name Gift Card Retailers
    • Fusion Shopping Network Mobile App
    • Plus Earn Reward Points from purchases
    • Always at least 2-5% Discounts
    • Earn free gas rewards when you shop at FSN
    • Buy Fuse Bucks for Auctions, Games & greater discounts
    • Didn’t win the Item you want in the auction? No problem Use your Fuse Bucks to purchase the Item at a discount
    • Global Fusion Debit Card use for all Fusion Affiliate business plus POS purchases and withdrawals at any ATM


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    Meet the VIP in Sales and Marketing Cynthia Basinger of Fusion Shopping Network.
    Here is a glimpse of what to expect with FSN.


    HAPPY NEW YEAR!

    Yes, it’s officially 2014! I hope you had a lovely Holiday Season, Christmas and New Years! Now that it’s traditional goal-setting time, how about deciding to gain some financial independence? Or maybe more freedom with your time?

    As I said in a note to you before Christmas, the wonderful opportunity we’ve been waiting for is now here – The Fusion Shopping Network! Please read this note, send it to your network and get ready to join us for a fabulous Soft Launch as we finalize our plans for a prosperous 2014!

    The Fusion corporate team, Dr. Frank George - CEO, Jon Bonnell - CTO, Mary Ritz - CFO and yours truly have been working day in and day out for many months now with the world’s best comp plan development team, software design experts, securities and investment attorneys, motivation and leadership trainers and networking legal counsel to create a cutting edge, financially rewarding business model with everything a networker has dreamed of – great company, great product, great comp plan and well, simply put, a GREAT, long-lasting opportunity. As some of our consultants have said, we are becoming “The next generation of network marketing.”

    Even with all the distractions of the Holidays, we are still on track for soft launch by end of January. You will be able to sign up, begin training and geneology building and take advantage of our state-of-the-art product, sales and compliance training. You will get trained on how to use and sell our On Demand Shopping Rewards business that will allow you to save and earn money on what you already do - shop. That’s it folks, if you shop, you win with Fusion Shopping Network! Plus, all purchasing, sales and training can even be done seamlessly from your smart device.

    Here’s a couple details to get those juices flowing – Weekly commissions up to 30% on your customer purchases! Plus, ZERO inventory requirement. That’s right, you will never have to purchase any “product” in order to resell it to your customers – the Company is absorbing ALL of that risk! No “inventory loading” schemes like some past fly-by-night companies! All you do is refer your customers to our web site with your ID and you earn the sales. How’s that for clean, simple and, yes, black-and-white compliant! Did I mention free gas cards and the fact that ALL payments will be auto-loaded onto your personal Fusion card? That’s right, no waiting for checks or confusing deposit requirements. You won’t even need a checking account! Well, I told you we’ve got the best working with the best!

    I will be filling you in with more and more details as we move through January. Again, please forward this email to everyone you feel is ready for our “here for the long haul” Company - Fusion Shopping Network.

    I share with you the excitement of a bright, bright future!

    We look forward to working with you soon.

    Sincerely,
    Cynthia Basinger
    Director, Sales & Marketing
    Fusion Shopping Network


    To Hear lasts Thursdays pre-recorded call go to: http://sosrecording3.com/ enter the dial in code 2064020879,
    then access code 79725

    See everyone this Thursdays call for more on the comp plan.

    Links and References to Other Pages:

    http://sosrecording3.com/

    From the Fusion Blog:
    MAY 31, 2013:

    There is a wave floating over the network marketing industry and I hope all participants will be able to ride it out. Gone are the days when a distributor/affiliate/member, etc. will be compensated solely by recruiting distributors who buy the products or services the direct sales company is offering. Look at what happened with JubiRev last week. In order to be fully compensated, one will need nondistributors or customers purchasing products or services. This is how the regulators will shrink the population of MLM enthusiasts because as we all know, the average person shies away from anything even remotely involving sales. How do we make this work? By having a product or service that is attractive to potential customers, offered at the right price. Perhaps it can be as simple as having an entertaining website that draws people in. Take QuiBids for example. Albeit they are not an MLM company, using them as a model for a penny auction MLM business, customers who go to their penny auction site can play games to win bids. I think the games are addicting. The chance to win bids makes the site more attractive. Thus a penny auction MLM business should follow suit.

    More on this subject to come. Stay tuned.
    Hilarious! We all know most MLMs have between a mere 10%-50% of their products sold to an end user (real customer) who is not participating in the pay plan, so them begging the reps to find some customer, any customer is most amusing! And, as wserra already pointed out that it appears they have NO products, procuring customers is going to be incredibly difficult. So finding customers for a product that doesn't exist -- comedic gold!

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    Oh, Boy, and their "legal" team or "lawyers" or even Ms. Basinger thinks all is OK ?

    I have to question her law degree..

    And Ph.D degree of that other guy.

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