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    Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    Just saw this today and so I am not sure if it has already been discussed in RS or not. If so, maybe admins can move this to that discussion.

    We knew with the legalization of hemp, weed, marijuana, grass, etc. - whatever your favorite name for it is, there would be more coming. So here we go, another MLM and this one is selling weed. It could be your next visitor will not be the Avon Lady but a Kannaway distributor bringing your smoke to your door. (A little humor there but could happen.)

    So far this is what I have found about this 'scheme' that seems to have risen from the dead just last week. I can always count on my friend to be in on the latest.


    The Buzz Launch is Rollin. Are You In?

    HEMP is not WEED, the message being hyped on the latest "scheme" running around the internet.

    Kannaway | The Official Kannaway Google Hangout

    Have I seen this guy before?

    QUOTE (DopplerMkt @ Feb 21 2014, 08:23 PM) *
    I work with the leaders in the company that work directly with corporate.

    I have direct access to Ray Dietrich the #1 recruiter on the leaderboard,
    as well as Billy Funk and Eric Green.

    Join a winning team that has everything you need to grow your business.
    We will have co-ops and plenty more to come from the top leaders
    in Kannaway.
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    1 - HempVap - $90.00


    SubTotal: $90.00
    S/H: $10.00
    Tax: $0.00
    Total: $100.00

    Once again, thank you for your order.

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    . Once you sign up on their website, youre asked to put in all your info including a Social Security number ( collecting your personal info on top of it ) and then are asked to select a product that you will be asked to buy tomorrow, March 1st. If you dont buy the product, youre going to be put at the bottom of your downline. All the while there is no compensation agreement, product information other than photos and if you go to the "launch party" that I dont think actually exists, you even have to pay 20.00 just to get information about what smells like a major scam on unsuspecting biz op seekers. Folks there is NO OPPORTUNITY here other than Kannaway making money off thousands of people who agreed to buy a product from them.
    Next order of business .... I came across this internesting bit of information

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    Kannaway is owned by General Hemp, LLC

    Kannaway's managing member is General Hemp, LLC

    General Hemp, LLC, a Delaware corporation, is owned by Stuart Titus, and General Hemp owns 628,191 shares of CannaVest

    If Kannaway is the home-based business organization that is going to be selling Cannabis Beauty DEFINED, then the circle is complete:

    CannaVest CBD oil goes into a product owned by HDDC (a major shareholder of MJNA). That product is is wholesaled by MJNA company HempMedsPX to a fledgling multi-level marketing company owned by a major shareholder of CannaVest.
    Ripoff Report | Kannaway / Kway / Chris Hussey Complaint Review San Diego , California: 1127446

    Word to the wise .... do your Due Diligence on any company before making impulsice decisions.

    THIS IS NOT A MONEY MAKING OPPORTUNTY, THIS IS A PREDATORY VACCUUM SCAM FOR KANNAWAY to make money off Craigslist and other sites and youre the innocent victim. Why else would they tell you NOT to use thier NAME, LOGO, MAKE CLAIMS ABOUT MAKING MONEY OR MEDICAL BENEFITS?

    Becuase Kannway/KWAY is a JOKE and an MLM SCAM ... all you have to do is watch all the you tube video's of these bozo's bouncing all over the place talking about how they have a legal cannibas product to sell in all 50 states.... "catch me if you can" is all this amounts to.... they take your information but give none in return.... Thank God the gov is now in the shadows of every social media site so that scumbags like this can get sucked out of the black hole they are trying to lead everyone into....

    Word to the wise .... do your Due Diligence on any company before making impulsice decisions.

    They keep mentioning Burke...

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    This scam is being pushed real hard by Billy Funk and Ray Dietrech, well known ponzi pimps!

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    Jamie Strickland (DopplerMkt) is quickly becoming one of the biggest scam pimping fools on the internet!

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
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    What!! You already received your supply for the day!!
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    One of the links originating from the comment above
    hemp is not weed
    gives this statement on his FB page:
    For many years I've had a great relationship with weed. I'm one of the lucky ones who lacks the programming from years of prohibition. My use has been mostly spiritual/recreational. But there are tens of millions of people with acute medical conditions suffering and hating life. These same people have no idea that this plant can help them. And even if they did hear about it, the propaganda and miss information would keep them from experiencing its benefits. We want to change this, and with the help of Lindsey James Radina and James Schmachtenberger we are making a film that will present the world with the medical facts from the top doctors and leading edge research on medicinal cannabis. This film must happen and we cannot do it alone, we need your help! Please support our fundraising campaign with a donation or a share! Love you all!! Science of Weed Documentary — feeling fantastic.
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    My personal opinion on the use of marijuana/cannabis is not in support of or totally against as I know it is used for medicinal purposes in some cases. The problems it causes for street users, party goers, high and low rollers IMO only leads to the really hard drugs and we all know what happens when people get addicted to drugs, it is not a good thing no matter how you look at it.

    Selling marijuana as an MLM scheme does not sound like a healthy thing for our world. IMO


    By doing a Google search on Jamie Strickland, I found this news story. Don't suppose they were related?? Jamie Strickland's attempted suicide by cop: "If they don't f*cking shoot me, I'll stab them"

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    A response to Wikipedia definition of Hemp:

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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    What!! You already received your supply for the day!!
    don't harsh my buzz maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

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    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Just saw this today and so I am not sure if it has already been discussed in RS or not. If so, maybe admins can move this to that discussion.

    We knew with the legalization of hemp, weed, marijuana, grass, etc. - whatever your favorite name for it is, there would be more coming. So here we go, another MLM and this one is selling weed. It could be your next visitor will not be the Avon Lady but a Kannaway distributor bringing your smoke to your door. (A little humor there but could happen.)

    So far this is what I have found about this 'scheme' that seems to have risen from the dead just last week. I can always count on my friend to be in on the latest.


    The Buzz Launch is Rollin. Are You In?

    HEMP is not WEED, the message being hyped on the latest "scheme" running around the internet.

    Kannaway | The Official Kannaway Google Hangout

    Have I seen this guy before?

    QUOTE (DopplerMkt @ Feb 21 2014, 08:23 PM) *
    I work with the leaders in the company that work directly with corporate.



    Kannaway - Kannaway.com






    They keep mentioning Burke...

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    Of course the who is shows ENOM, INC.


    Kannaway.com is worth $160,085 USD - Kannaway | It's About Time

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    https://www.facebook.com/carlajocarey

    https://www.facebook.com/ScienceOfWeed

    Kannaway admin just sent out an email (found below). Looks like the ponzi pimps are already get restless and want their promised products.

    Hey Everyone

    We want to begin by thanking you for your support and your enthusiasm for the launch of Kannaway.

    You guys are truly amazing.

    One clarification we need to make.

    HempMedsPX is NOT involved in the support of Kannaway.

    Kannaway is it's own company and all support, sales, shipping, etc is handled by Kannaway.

    Not HempMedsPX.

    PLEASE DO NOT CALL HEMPMEDSPX FOR ANYTHING INVOLVING KANNAWAY.

    You will not receive support on ANY issue from HempMedsPX.

    As we have said before, Kannaway will begin shipping on March 1oth and you will receeve full information on your order at that time.

    Please direct ALL support requests for Kannaway to Support@Kannaway.com

    Thank you for understanding.

    The Kannaway Team

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    press release

    March 6, 2014, 9:24 a.m. EST

    CannaVest Corp. Clarifies Relationships With General Hemp and Kannaway
    CannaVest Provides Cannabidiol (CBD)-Rich Hemp Oil to HempMedsPX, HempMedsPX Supplies Kannaway With CBD-Rich Hemp Oil


    CannaVest Corp. Clarifies Relationships With General Hemp and Kannaway - MarketWatch

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    I might be wrong but from what I can see Kannaway decided to join the wholesale program offered by HempMedsPX™
    You can visit the site and view the application process. Become A Wholesaler | HempMedsPXHempMedsPX

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    There are a lot of sites on the internet about growing cannabis.For many people growing cannabis is a more reliable, safer and convenient alternative than buying from dealers. Many seed suppliers exist for example in Holland where it is legal to grow. They post seeds and growing equipment worldwide or people can by them for cash if they visit them. seeds cost about $30 and shipping by post starts at about $3.
    There is no need to provide any personal information or to provide any large amount of finance. Anyone asking for such is probably a scammer.
    Of course in some cannabis is illegal. In others growing it is legal but harvesting it is illegal. In some ( actually in all) it is legal for some people. e.g. it may be legal for a research institute.

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    KANNAWAY has threads on both the MMG and Talkgold HYIP ponzi forums so it has already classified itself as a scam.

    No legitimate business would allow itself to be associated with the HYIP ponzi "industry" much less advertize on one of the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums
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    Guess we just have to weed out the truth eh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    KANNAWAY has threads on both the MMG and Talkgold HYIP ponzi forums so it has already classified itself as a scam.

    No legitimate business would allow itself to be associated with the HYIP ponzi "industry" much less advertize on one of the usual suspect HYIP ponzi forums

    Of course the threads were both started by Jamie Strickland!

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    I was actually looking for something funny like this to go with the new Brownie MLM I want to launch alongside the weed MLM.

    Browine MLM.jpg

    Ironically I stumbled on a site that had a very interesting take on what is going on here. They seem to be not so impressed with the quality of the product, or the way it is being marketed.

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    Ethics and Morality | Weed Activist

    Snake Oil: History repeats itself

    February 23, 2014 in Ethics and Morality, Medical Cannabis, Weed Business, Weed Politics


    Humans can be relatively stupid and gullible creatures. We will believe anything if you put the right sales spin and fancy marketing on it.

    So here we are over 100 years after the snake oil peddlers were done away with by the 1906 Food and Drug Act, which attempted to regulate medicines and curb the abuses of “travelling “doctors” with dubious credentials, selling fake medicines with boisterous marketing hype, often supported by pseudo-scientific evidence.” Sound familiar? Yes….Look around you. History is indeed repeating itself and the cannabis snake oil salespeople are out in full force to sucker you out of your hard earned cash before prohibition ends.

    The ruse was simple. Wander into a town of unsuspecting people proclaiming to have the cure all for their illness and disease and sucker the townspeople into buying up all of your bullshit snake oil preparations. The way they would pull off the trick is to have accomplices in the audience that would claim that the preparation had really helped them. They would sucker people into believing their bullshit based on the testimonies of those who had supposedly used this new cure all and had been healed. Yeah…Let that soak in for a minute. Check the landscape and you can see that this ruse is more alive than ever, and the internet and social media have made it easier than ever to pull off. The quasi-legal state of cannabis and the lack of oversight or regulation make it extra easy picking for these modern day medical hucksters.

    What we have is a perfect storm for fraud, corruption, and deception.

    So how is this happening in the modern age of strict medical oversight and regulation? Simple….Because cannabis s first and foremost an illegal Schedule 1 narcotic it is in no way regulated. But because of the growing acceptance for medical cannabis in many states and a level of tolerance for these programs by the USDOJ, what is happening is people are pushing the boundaries of medical truth and ethics to sell hemp/weed oil products. Since the regulators cannot regulate the market without ending the complete prohibition of cannabis and acknowledging it does need oversight, people are left to make their wild claims and sell their bogus oils on the open market with very little fear of prosecution. It is disgusting.

    The saddest part is that a lot of the new hype we see is aimed directly at children. Take the group “Realm of Caring” from Colorado lead by Josh Stanley and his brothers. They did a really shitty TV reality show called American Weed where they acted like some experts in weed and overacted their “reality” scenes to a point of nausea. They then were gifted a strain of cannabis which was high in CBD and found it to work well for cases of children with severe epilepsy and other conditions. Enter Dr. Sanjay Gupta and his highly watched program called “Weed” where he shifts his professional opinion on medical cannabis and does a great close-up spot on the efficacy of this medicine for a young girl named Charlotte. It is a well-done and touching piece that was informative and helped people to understand that cannabis did indeed have special healing properties. All good so far, right?

    Leave it to the American value of money over morals to step in and take over though. Instead of being grateful they had discovered a remedy that could help others and working to make sure parents of these kids had access to these types of medicines, the brothers Stanley decided that they had found the magic beans and were going to keep them for their own gain. Because of the media they received they became a go to resource for parents who were desperate for relief for their children. The RoC group has truly let their minimal success based on limited sampling and over-hyped media go to their head. Parents have reported being forced onto a waiting list for care for many months and being forced to sign non-disclosure/non-compete agreements that only allow them to discuss their care and receive medicine from Realm of Caring. They are selling what amounts to a good high CBD strain dissolved in olive oil for big money to parents desperate to make their child’s suffering stop. It is pretty fucked up from an ethical standpoint on many levels. If there really was any “realm of caring” in there they would share the strain with parents in need and allow them to cultivate low cost medicine for their child; or at the very least allow other people with more production capability produce it in a higher volume to meet demands and not have to wait months because they believe everything Dr. Sanjay Gupta says on CNN.

    NOTE TO PEOPLE SEEKING OIL: There are far higher quality and less expensive products available than are being offered to most caught up in the hype game.


    As I dig deeper into the Stanley’s background and operations, more and more questions are raised. Now the RoC group is working to push CBD only legislation in states to ensure their place in the market by playing on drug war and prohibition fears. The Stanley’s go out of their way to play into the hype and propaganda, as they try to differentiate themselves from the average “stoner” or “pothead.” Check out these classic quotes from the Stanley’s and their mission from God:

    “We are not a bunch of stoners, and we do not associate with the stereotypes of what people would like to associate with us,” Joel Stanley said. “We care about what we do.”

    So you are suggesting that because one is a “stoner” that they do not care about what they do? And then there is this classic:

    “If we were growing psychoactive plants for a bunch of potheads, then that would be the question,” he said. “But what people should ask is ‘How did a group of Christians come to grow a plant for sick people?’”

    So now you are using your religion as a moral higher ground for your cannabis production? You are throwing the entire cannabis culture (which your friends say you were indeed a pretty deep part of…former deadheads) under the bus to play yourself as literally “God’s gift to weed?” This is the making of the modern day Snake Oil Salesman. Some fancy marketing, a little media push, and some good old fashion Jesus hyperbole for the folks in the cheap seats. It is insane that such a transparent group of charlatans have successfully bullshitted public officials and unsuspecting parents into buying their shitty story.

    But they are far from the only ones. There are almost too many to mention. Swing a dead cat around and you will probably hit a person trying to push their latest miracle cure; but let’s stick to the big dogs.

    The other big scam popping off is the questionable hemp derived products being pushed most notably by Hempmeds PX RHSO (Real Scientific Hemp Oil). The company claims that their product is legal to distribute in all 50 states because it is derived from hemp paste that is legal to import. Their claims are dubious and are moving targets. The parent company, Medical Marijuana Inc. (MJNA) has a lot of affiliated companies that have made a lot of strange moves on the stock market, which is a totally different but related story. There is a good article entitled “Medical Marijuana, Inc. Definitely A Dope Opera” on Seeking Alpha that is worth checking out to get a better breakdown of the complex bullshit workings of this company, and their former partnership with Dixie, a Colorado based company also offering similar hemp derived preparations. It is extremely bizarre and frustrating. These con-artists have exploited the popularity of cannabis and zero regulation to make crazy marketing claims about their products.


    The product itself is a low quality product that is produced under conditions that reportedly leave a lot to be desired. Here is a quote from one of the scientists hire by Dixie, then a part of MJNA, to help create these product lines:

    I am tired of so called CBD companies claiming that what they provide is medicine. Anyone using a CBD from hemp product please be aware of what you’re actually getting because it is not what you think. These formulations start with a crude and dirty hemp paste (contaminated with microbial life! I have seen this and these organisms decompose the paste. The paste perhaps even contains residual solvent and other toxins as the extraction is done in China ) made in a process that actually renders it unfit for human consumption.

    What these companies are doing is criminal and dangerous. In fact MJNA’s RSHO is literally just this hemp paste diluted in hemp seed oil. No refinement at all!!! And what Dixie Botanicals is offering is beyond disturbing. I cannot keep quiet any more. And since I formulated most of these products as head of Dixie science, I feel responsible for spreading the truth. I left Dixie for ethical reasons but it is not enough to just walk away. These frauds need to be exposed for what they are. Look out for my tell all article coming soon and feel free to contact me directly with questions as it is time to blow the whistle. Let’s keep this industry pure and safe.”

    — Tamar Wise, formerly head of Dixie Science.

    Sound good? Yeah…now check out the price tag:



    That is right. For only $550 a tube or six tubes for $3,000 you too can have some shitty hemp paste black oil that comes from who knows where and is overseen by absolutely no one. You say, “Well Mickey….they haven’t exactly sent in people pretending to have been healed to sell their products have they?” Great question. I am glad you asked.


    Check out this new MULTI_LEVEL MARKETING scam being put out by the MJNA group called Kannaway. Does it sound like some Amway pyramid scheme? Well it is. Unbelievable right? Check out this conference call the company has where this unsuspecting guy finds this great opportunity to sell these awesome products and make some extra money! How convenient. LOL:

    THIS VIDEO WAS MADE PRIVATE BY THESE COWARDS AFTER THIS STORY BROKE. THEY MUST BE ASHAMED OF SOMETHING? IT HAS BEEN REPLACED WITH ANOTHER VERSION.

    Still not sold that is a scam yet? Listen to this bullshit fake news interview with known MJNA spokesperson Charles Vest (friend of #bitchface) where he explains the great opportunity. It is ripe with Snake Oil Salesman double-speak and bullshit:

    They have posted messages like this all over social media and especially in forums where parents with sick children go to discuss their situation, often using very similar stories of success with people to lure them in:


    I am not sure how clear I need to make this, but these folks are making a big press to separate you from your money by providing false hope at inflated prices before the veil of prohibition is lifted and they are found out to be frauds.

    Snake Oil selling is alive and well, complete with fake people who have been miraculously cured, fancy marketing, misleading labeling, and arm twisting. These bold faces liars and fraudsters are here to do one thing…make money and lots of it. They are using these schemes to boost their stock profiles as well. It is all a very twisted and ugly game to sucker investors and people who want to believe, but who do not live in a medical cannabis state, out of their hard-earned cash.

    It is fucked up and we as a community should not allow for this to go on in our name. There are people’s loyalties being bought and sold on the open market to give some credence to these bullshitters; and it never ceases to amaze me what losers will fall into the traps of these frauds. But it is happening and many choose to stand back without saying a word in hopes that the whole deal does not collapse before our eyes and dismantle the work we have done so some bastards can have their get rich quick scheme based on lax supplement laws and misleading marketing.

    This story is so big it is hard to write in one piece and it is only growing by the day. More to come on CBD only legislation, stock scammers, and inferior oil products in their own rights later. But it is up to us, as a community, to begin asking the tough questions and exposing these scams before good people get hurt any more.
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    Just going by the "smell test," no detailed analysis yet but this looks like a disposable company. Lot's of pre-pre-launch hype, website from Panama, "temporary" comp plan (powerline no less) and cheesy cast of charters. Add to it a product that almost certainly will attacked the wrong kind of distributors and a lot of scrutiny. Kannaway might go straight from per-launch directly to involuntary dissolution. And a hand full of people behind it could still pocket some green.

    Their website is a work of crap. No info what so ever unless you do a Site: search and even then, no comp plan, no product catalog. A few early affiliates already have their landing pages (Chris Hussey and Mark Moreland), always nice to get in before the rabble. But they didn't even pay a web developer before they got affiliate money. Notice they're using Vimeo for everything other than Google Hangouts, I think they're worried YouTube might delist them.

    And take a look at this compliance video. If they catch you using their name or logo and make any sort of health claim they're going to shut you down. Now that sounds perfectly Greg Caldwell but feel where the stress is put. They know there's no way the affiliates will follow these rules, hell I'm listening to one of their Hangouts right now, a company controlled event and they've broken the rules at least three times in the last ten minutes. Blame the affiliates drum roll in five, four, three.,...

    MLMmostwanted linked to this in post #10:

    press release
    March 6, 2014, 9:24 a.m. EST
    CannaVest Corp. Clarifies Relationships With General Hemp and Kannaway

    CannaVest Provides Cannabidiol (CBD)-Rich Hemp Oil to HempMedsPX, HempMedsPX Supplies Kannaway With CBD-Rich Hemp Oil









    SAN DIEGO, March 6, Mar 06, 2014 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE via COMTEX) -- CannaVest Corp. CANV -0.86% , the world's leading hemp-based investment company spearheading the development of cannabidiol (CBD)-rich hemp oils and other hemp industry-related products and services, would like to clarify its relationship with both General Hemp, LLC and Kannaway, LLC.

    Kannaway, LLC is marketed as a hemp lifestyle company with a focus on nutritional wellness whose products contain CBD rich hemp oil. Kannaway was founded in 2014 and is a wholly-owned subsidiary of General Hemp, LLC.

    The sole owner of General Hemp is Stuart Titus. Mr. Titus formerly was a consultant and advisor to CannaVest, and currently owns less than 2% of the outstanding shares of CannaVest. Mr. Titus no longer has any affiliation with CannaVest, and no person affiliated with General Hemp is employed by CannaVest in any capacity. The sole relationship between CannaVest and General Hemp is Mr. Titus' ownership of CannaVest stock.
    Products for Kannaway's business will exclusively be supplied by HempMedsPX, LLC, which is a distributor of federally legal, hemp-based CBD products and a wholly-owned subsidiary of Medical Marijuana, Inc. (MJNA). HempMeds is the master distributor and marketing company for CannaVest. As a result, CannaVest's product offerings will be available to Kannaway for its business. CannaVest has no ownership or other interest in Kannaway, and CannaVest solely will act as a supplier of products to Kannaway.

    "We have received numerous telephone calls from the public leading us to believe there is general confusion relating to our relationship to Kannaway," says Michael Mona III, Vice President of Operations for CannaVest Corp. "Our business focus continues to be on being the world's leading bulk CBD-rich hemp oil supplier, and we intend to continue selling our product offerings to HempMeds, which ultimately will allow Kannaway to launch and sustain its business. We are excited that our products will be available to consumers through the Kannaway model."
    Their product supplier as already distancing themselves from Stuart Titus and his MLM company.

    And one thing nags at me, Hemp based food products seem to be legal in all 50 states but I keep seeing things like this:

    CBD Oil Still Not Legal in Many MedCan States

    By Russ Belville · Thu Oct 31, 2013



    Since the premiere of the Dr. Sanjay Gupta documentary “Weed,” the nation has been waking up to the incredible medical utility of cannabinoid extracts, particularly the high-CBD, low-THC oil produced from “Charlotte’s Web” plants. Little Charlotte Figi suffered 300 seizures a week before trying the oil, and "Weed" viewers were astonished to see her miraculous recovery. She now suffers just one or two manageable seizures a day.

    Yet even though there are now 20 state that have legalized medical marijuana, the use of this incredibly helpful, non-psychoactive cannabis product by patients is not protected in all of them.


    The New York Times reported on the story of Jacob and Jennifer Welton, who are suing the state of Arizona over its medical marijuana law, which passed in 2010. The law allows patients the use of “any mixture or preparation” made with dried marijuana flowers and allows minors into the program. Any sort of concentrated hash oil, however, is an illegal narcotic even for patients, prompting the Weltons to sue for the use of CBD oil for their five-year-old epileptic son.


    Medical marijuana states usually define "medical marijuana" as all preparations derived from the cannabis plant, but some states have separate definitions for hash and hash oil. In Michigan for instance, the word “resin” was left out of the definition of “usable marijuana,” leading the Court of Appeals in July to decide that a brownie made with pot was OK, but a brownie made with cannabis-butter is illegal. In response, on Monday a Michigan state representative filed a bill to make concentrates of cannabis legal for patients.
    Link to the rest of the article

    From the HempMedsPX website:

    If you can’t grow hemp in the USA, how are hemp and hemp-based products legal?
    Because the FDA considers hemp oil and hemp oil-derived cannabinoids (like CBD) to be food-based products, no legal restrictions on their importation, production and consumption exist in the United States and in most of the industrialized world.
    (My underlining)

    I don't claim to know what the laws are in all 50 states but it looks very much like there are gray areas here. Chris Hussey's compliance video stressed "No Medical Claims" which makes me wonder if they think they can away with this if they pretend they are selling "food."

    This company is a smoldering crater waiting to happen.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    must be paying the pimps right now:

    He is paying $1.50 per sign up.
    1. Go to bit.Iy/0v4j9O
    2. Sign up - Your SSN is not needed - DO NOT ADD
    3. Add sponsor ID# 8O86I4S to Sign up

    This product contains CBD's for a healthy lifestyle.


    Proof submitted by you

    Bring back the name you signed up under & your ID#
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    Jon Scherling and his scamming partner Geoff Cash are pimping this crap. Enough said.

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    You can puch in any number on the splash page it doesn't matter it will then lead you to your email capture which will allow you to add anything such as hottttmail.
    Once inside, there is really no content except a few short videos which tell you nothing.
    There is an information form though which does ask for your SSN number.
    Who ever put this site together must be having a field day capturing mlm'ers contact information.
    Poor dopes who actually provide the SSN number.

    Kannaway Domain is registered in Panama...Hmmmmmm what does that tell anyone?
    These guys are doing nothing more than buying wholesale at highly discounted costs for volume they order and re-sell and ship to
    everyone at a crazy inflated price. People joining are thinking this is an mlm sent from heaven, but yet again, they are being taken for a joy ride.

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    Re: Hemp is not Weed - A New MLM Kannaway

    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    must be paying the pimps right now:

    He is paying $1.50 per sign up.
    1. Go to bit.Iy/0v4j9O
    2. Sign up - Your SSN is not needed - DO NOT ADD
    3. Add sponsor ID# 8O86I4S to Sign up

    This product contains CBD's for a healthy lifestyle.


    Proof submitted by you

    Bring back the name you signed up under & your ID#
    So after buying 1000s of sign ups.

    They claim-"Tell me, how can 10,000 people in 96 hours, be wrong..."
    They are not lying....just not mentioning all those sign ups are microjob ( 99.99% will never put dime in program)
    Same suckers who fall for PS, JBP, Zeek, etc line up...

    Keeps the scammers out of jail when you can show "real" signups.

    see link.
    The Buzz Launch is Rollin. Are You In?

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    This company is very strange.

    There's sort of an intersection between glitzy and manipulative internet marketing and less than fully adhering with industry best practices MLM startups, I'm not saying Kannaway is located at that intersection but they're close enough to use the same bus stop. They've got a real bipolar issue with communication, nightly Google hangouts but as little of anything put into writing as possible. You can't view the products and prices page or the comp plan details without signing up with the company. Most company communication to the field is on a "secret" facebook group you need to be an affiliate to be added to. It's peppered with posts like:


    Christopher Hussey


    Anybody want a t-shirt?
    (PLEASE DO NOT SHARE THIS PHOTO - IT IS ONLY FOR YOU)

    1508619_10152001821912825_1177211098_n.jpg
    "Hey, we got T-Shirts but don't show anyone. It'z a secretz!!"

    But at least they did make a few documents available on their secret group. The "Buzz launch Comp Plan":

    Page 1 | P a g e
    The Buzz Launch Compensation Plan

    The Buzz Launch is a marketing campaign designed to do just that, ‘Create a Buzz’ around Kannaway!
    ‘The Buzz Campaign’ will run from March 1st – March 31st at which time everyone who enrolls will be
    placed into one company‐wide Powerline structure based on the time and date of enrollment.
    Starting March 1st all participants (Pre‐enrollees) will have the opportunity to purchase 1 of 3 product
    packages at retail price.

    Cannabis Beauty Defined Salve $50
    HempVap $90
    Combo Salve & HempVap $125

    Here’s how it works: As a Pre‐enrollee, you may enroll for free and temporarily hold your position in
    ‘The Buzz Powerline’ structure for up to three days. Everyone who enrolls after you (no matter who
    sponsors them) will be placed below you down one straight line. Pre‐enrollees must purchase one of the
    three retail product packs within their first three days of enrolling to secure their position in the
    Powerline. Pre‐enrollees who do not purchase one of the three retail product packs within three days will
    forfeit their position and be placed in the next open position at the bottom of the Powerline structure
    and given a new time and date for their enrollment. Again, a position is not secured until the Pre‐enrollee
    purchases one of the three retail product packs. This process will continue until March 31st when The
    Buzz Campaign ends.

    On April 1st all Pre‐enrollees will be given 24 hours to officially register to become a Kannaway
    Independent Business Owner (IBO) by logging into the back office, agreeing to the Kannaway Policies
    and Procedures and paying the current IBO fee. IBO’s can then opt to purchase one of the Kannaway
    enrollment Product Packages. Pre‐enrollees who do not officially register to be a Kannaway IBO will be
    converted to a Customer of their referring IBO. Once the Powerline is compressed all commission
    volume (CV) from sales made during The Buzz Campaign will be divided equally and placed into 12
    Bonus Pools.

    Page 2 | P a g e
    The Buzz Launch Comp Plan (cont’d)

    Qualification for the Bonus Pools: The pool an IBO qualifies for is based on the number of product
    package purchases made by personally referred Pre‐enrollees during ‘The Buzz Campaign’.
    POOL PERSONAL SALES

    12 34+
    11 31‐33
    10 28‐30
    9 25‐27
    8 22‐24
    7 19‐21
    6 16‐18
    5 13‐15
    4 10‐12
    3 7‐9
    2 4‐6
    1 1‐3

    Calculating the commission value of a pool: A Mathematical formula will be used to determine the value
    of each qualifying IBO’s portion of the pool. To calculate each IBO’s commission share for a particular
    pool, the total Powerline CV under all participating IBO’s in that pool will be added together to
    determine the total accumulated CV for that pool. Next we take each IBO and divide the total
    accumulated pool CV into the total CV they have under them in the Powerline. This determines the
    share percentage the IBO earns from their participating pool. For example, if the total pool CV is
    $100,000.00 and the IBO’s share percentage is 2% of the pool, then the commission earned would be
    $2,000.

    Up next: April 1st marks the official Pre‐launch date for Kannaway and the end of ‘The Buzz Campaign’.
    All Pre‐enrollees who officially register to become IBO’s will be placed into the Kannaway compensation
    structure based on their line of sponsorship. The Powerline will be discontinued and all CV will flow
    through a line of sponsorship as described in the Kannaway Compensation Plan.
    They make no differentiation between affiliates and customers they're one and the same. Buy some of our stuff and we'll give you part of the money back. Get other people to buy our stuff and we'll give some of their money too. One aspect described more in depth on some of the calls than in that document is how joining early affects your potential payout from the CV. A post from the fb group explains:

    • PINNED POST


    Christopher Hussey


    EVERYONE WHO HAS NOT YET MADE A PURCHASE TO LOCK YOUR POWERLINE - This in in your email now with your particular numbers. Tell your teams to find their email. We are going to break some hearts tomorrow night when people begin losing their powerlines.

    -----
    Hey There

    You have {PowerCount} members in your Powerline.

    If YOU are receiving this email, it means just one thing.

    You have NOT locked your Kannaway POWERLINE!

    WOW - Personally, I can't believe it.

    It is your decision, if you want to lose those {PowerCount} members from your powerline.

    Let me explain.

    At Midnight, Thursday March 6th, our Kannaway Nation Powerline began.

    That means that 72 hours later, all our original Kannaway enrollees - WHO DO NOT LOCK THEIR POWERLINE - will drop to the bottom of the powerline and start their powerline over with ZERO members.

    Do you REALLY want to lose your {PowerCount} members?

    Join the OVER 10,000 members who have locked their spot.

    Here's how :

    1 - login - http://kannaway.com/member/
    - username : {ID}
    - password : {Password}

    2 - find the PLACE YOUR ORDER button in the top left corner

    3 - follow the steps and choose the Salve, the HempVap, or the Combo Pack

    Once you make your purchase, we will ship your product as quickly as possible and you will have LOCKED YOUR POWERLINE.

    Don't miss out!

    Take action right now.

    Lock your {PowerCount} member powerline! ( and growing )

    We're looking forward to having you in Kannaway Nation.

    The Kannaway Team
    Your {PowerCount} is your weight in whatever bonus pool you land in. A person who made a total of three sales on the first day of the month gets paid more than one doing the same on the last day of the month.

    Oh, and they're going to release details of their "real" comp plan,...later.

    Here is Kannaway's Compliance for facebook document, any underlining is mine:

    FACEBOOK COMPLIANCE

    LINK TO VIDEO:

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v...814457309&type
    =2

    TRANSCRIPT:

    What’s up Kannaway Nation, it’s Christopher! Short simple compliance video talking about
    specifically how we promote Kannaway and our Kannaway opportunity on Facebook. Two things
    I’m gonna cover really quickly: Facebook Pages and Facebook Groups.

    So let’s talk first about Facebook Pages. The words that you want to keep in your head are
    Personal Profile Page. Personal Profile Page. You can promote Kannaway on your personal
    profile page… on you personal profile page. At present, you cannot create a specific page for
    kannaway, no matter what the name. You can’t call it hemp, you can’t call it canabis, you can’t
    call it CBD.. you can not promote Kannaway on a specific page for the business. You may
    promote K on your personal profile page called Your Personal Name. I know some of you guys
    will tell us, “Oh it’s a personal profile page called ‘CBD Dude.’” No. My personal profile page is
    called Christopher Hussey, and on my personal profile page Christopher Hussey, I can promote
    Kannaway with all the images provided by the company. I can use the company logo, I can write
    my ID, I can write the kannaway.com/thebuzzlaunch,
    I can use whatever I want promoting on
    my own personal profile page of my own name. I can display my Kannaway colors, my
    Kannaway pride, my ownership of Kannaway Nation. Okay? Very very simple. Anything other
    than this, dealing with Facebook pages, we simply cannot have at the moment. One of the
    reasons… and I’m not going to get into a ton of reasons… you guys are just going to have to
    trust me… I’m going to impart on you one of the reasons why we are doing this and how we are
    protecting your opportunity. A lot of people will put up pages, and we have 24,000 people in
    Kannaway Nation right now, and a lot of those people are going to be attracted to those pages.
    They’re going to like those pages. They’re going to become part of those pages. And what if that
    person decides to be mad at Kannaway Nation and starts promoting something else? Now, what
    has happened is you’ve worked really hard to build a group, and those people have attracted your
    people to their group page, and now they’re promoting something else and depleting your
    opportunity in Kannaway Nation. So for the time being, until you get the official word from the
    corporate team, you can promote Kannaway under your Personal Profile Name under your
    personal name. No CBD, no hemp, no cannabis, no “I love weed”… none of that. Your personal
    profile page under your personal name. You can use the logo, you can use the name, you can
    use the colors, you can use all the images we post under your personal profile name.

    That’s one. Let’s do the second part.

    Let’s talk about groups, okay. No visible groups. Here’s the thing. If I can find it, then you can’t
    have it. There are secret groups out there that you can’t find. Right? And I understand... I believe
    in… we fully support your ability to create a group and message and work with your team,
    promote and do internal team activities. Love that. Love it. It’s not a public group. It’s not a closed
    group. It is a SECRET group. Okay? Secret group… I can’t find it… we’re good to go, okay?

    What happens though, there are several people out there, and I apologize for it affecting your
    business… we’re gonna take care of it… we’re trying to be as nice about it as we can, but we
    ARE gonna take care of it. There are several people out there, people that are joining groups,
    they’re getting wrong messaging, and they’re getting taken into OTHER opportunities through
    those groups. So we’re simply not gonna have that right now, guys. SO no… no groups. No
    hemp groups. People are like, “Well my group isn’t called Kannaway.” But on the page, your
    posting our opportunity video, posting Kannaway things, so it’s a Kannaway group. If I go to your
    group and there’s Kannaway advertising on the group, can’t have that group. Groups are for
    education and teamwork. They’re not for advertising. Kannaway education takes place in the
    official Kannaway group. That's what it’s called: Kannaway Official Group. That’s where
    everybody should be. You can have your own team groups. They are secret groups and let’s be
    very clear… no use of Kannaway, no use of KWay, no use of HempMeds... any of our
    companies. You can’t use those in the names of your groups, okay? So, I’m hoping that makes
    sense.
    We are beginning to police this today, so again, we said this… we’re not going to
    message you and ask you to take this down. We’re just going to disable your account and you
    can get back to us whenever you’re ready to set it back up and you’re in compliance. So, you
    can promote Kannaway, you can use the images, you can use the word… all of that on your
    Personal Profile Page under your personal name. Nothing else. You cannot have any groups that
    are pulling people from Kannaway into your group at all under any name. If I can find them, you
    simply cannot have them. You cannot use the Kannaway name, KWay, HempMeds, or anything
    like that.

    Love you guys. This is for your protection. Let’s do this together. Don’t stand beside me. Stand
    WITH me. Stand with us and build Kannaway Nation.
    ///////
    The MLM that dare not speak it's name.

    Amazing.
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    'buzz launch'. Ha....I get it.

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    Thanks for all the digging and information on this guys!! They must be testing the waters carefully on this one as they want to make some fast upfront money in case it explodes in their faces. Oh how can they use God's name in vain with this stuff??!!!!

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    Something that is happening on the TV ads at present really gets to me. All the medical warnings from Surgeon General about cigarette smoking and how it has been banned in some places (a good thing) but now it is totally okay to smoke weed. Someone want to prove that the smoke inhaled from cannabis is not just as bad for your lungs and health as tobacco products? We have the MLM program trying to get started by selling the stuff as stated in above comments - cure all snake oil, are we going to see more hemp health food stores opened? Even in the US, has our Congress been taking too many "joint" breaks to put them on a really high buzz (as Whip keeps telling us) so they can slooooowwww down the process of actually passing legislation they were sent there to do??!!! I am confused, I really hope this stuff does not find its way through the computer to mess up my thinking process. We have to take this serious but it hard to keep from adding a few jibes in here.

    Truthfully, as I always try to do it, I know little about the use of marijuana except what I read and was told. It was happening around me but I never got involved personally with its use so I cannot be accurate about the effects only what others have told me. My boys were exposed in college as were most at the time. It is not that I condemn anyone for what they did or do, it is just something I did not and don't do. I do think it is hypocritical of our government to blame all medical problems on smoking tobacco and then approve the use of smoking marijuana. IMHO

    Some people thought it was a plot to get rid of the productive crops of tobacco and perhaps a conspiracy by our government. Those were the days back when everything was suspect "conspiracy" with the killing of the Kennedy's, Marilyn Monroe and how much Lyndon Johnson wanted to be president...

    Now it has turned us back to the days of peddling snake oil in the form of hemp oil, which just might or might not be of the purity it is claimed to be. Made in China - you have heard about the farm fresh Tilapia fish grown in drainage ditches... I buy products from China, do you?
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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