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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    Unless people are licensed to provide nutritional advice in their respective states...


    It is not legal to market a dietary supplement product as a treatment or cure for a specific disease, or to alleviate the symptoms of a disease.

    https://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Con.../ucm050803.htm

    More than the risks of injury or damage, it remains that it is illegal in many US jurisdictions to offer dietetics or nutritional advice without a license.

    https://fitlegally.com/supplements-f...-legal-issues/

    For those energy healers and others providing nutritional advice, consider this:

    For purposes of this section the terms "providing nutritional advice or giving advice concerning proper nutrition" means the giving of information as to the use and role of food and food ingredients, including dietary supplements. Any person in commercial practice providing nutritional advice or giving advice concerning proper nutrition shall post in an easily visible and prominent place the following statement in his or her place of business:

    "NOTICE"

    "State law allows any person to provide nutritional advice or give
    advice concerning proper nutrition--which is the giving of advice as
    to the role of food and food ingredients, including dietary
    supplements. This state law does NOT confer authority to practice
    medicine or to undertake the diagnosis, prevention, treatment, or
    cure of any disease, pain, deformity, injury, or physical or mental
    condition and specifically does not authorize any person other than
    one who is a licensed health practitioner to state that any product
    might cure any disease, disorder, or condition."

    The notice required by this section shall not be smaller than 81/2
    inches by 11 inches and shall be legibly printed with lettering no
    smaller than 1/2 inch in length, except the lettering of the word
    "NOTICE" shall not be smaller than 1 inch in length.

    This is interesting, because the statute applies to "any person" giving nutritional advice. In some states, even licensed health care providers such as chiropractors have been prosecuted for practicing "medicine" without a license; in one case, the court held that the chiropractor had gone beyond 'dietary advice,' which the statute plainly allowed, into 'prescribing vitamins to treat disease,' which is unlicensed medical practice.

    California law for non-licensed practitioners and nutritional advice : CAMLAW: Complementary and Alternative Medicine Law Blog


    Without a license, it is a crime in Florida to counsel people on their nutritional needs—regardless of certifications or experience. Moreover, Florida’s Dietetic and Nutrition Council will soon propose a new regulation that would reiterate and emphasize that unlicensed nutritional counseling is a crime, regardless of whether the counselor calls herself a nutrition coach, weight loss coach, sports nutritionist, or similar term.

    https://supplementcounsel.com/when-g...ce-is-illegal/
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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    Ribshaw.......

    Should we contact the Schertz police department on the nutrition supplement aspect and training 3 times a week 7 minutes a day......

    He has stated on numerous calls that he was 1 class shy of earning his degree in Canada.....

    The Schertz Police Department is here https://www.schertz.com/298/Police

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    Here is just one video where Joel Therien who is educating people on this without being licensed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxStmKhjQyI

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    Top leader Daniel Kump in nowlifestyle was also apart of the now defunct Digital Altitude that was shut down by the SEC........

    Barf bags will be needed before watching this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI3ZZpgeZM4

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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Fan View Post
    Ribshaw.......

    Should we contact the Schertz police department on the nutrition supplement aspect
    I think people's best bet would be to report him to the FDA, what if anything comes of it a matter for another time.

    https://www.fda.gov/Safety/ReportaProblem/UCM059044

    People thinking about this as a business need think long and hard about the risk they are putting themselves in dispensing advice they might not be qualified or licensed to give. The classic example being personal trainers looking to supplement their income. They may very well find their liability insurance doesn't protect them.

    Nutritional Supplement Liabilities - Personal Training Insurance

    https://www.nfpt.com/blog/personal-t...nd-supplements

    And the high protein diet recommended by Therien in his video is hardly safe for everyone.


    https://www.webmd.com/diet/guide/hig...ohydrate-diets

    https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-l...s/faq-20058207
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Fan View Post
    Top leader Daniel Kump in nowlifestyle was also apart of the now defunct Digital Altitude that was shut down by the SEC........

    Barf bags will be needed before watching this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nI3ZZpgeZM4





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    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Fan View Post
    Here is just one video where Joel Therien who is educating people on this without being licensed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CxStmKhjQyI


    Oh, bloody dear.
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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    A former employee gave their review on glassdoor of what its like to work at Global Virtual Opportunities https://www.glassdoor.com/Overview/W...4712.11,39.htm Employee Reviews
    Mar 3, 2017
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    "Global Virtual Opportunites needs help"
    Former Employee - Anonymous Employee
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    I worked at Global Virtual Opportunities full-time

    Pros

    Most of your coworkers will be work just as hard as you are to make the company a success, and many of these will be people that you will be proud to call friends years after you go your separate ways.

    Cons

    Management is unfocused, often abandoning work on existing products in favor of the newest shiny thing. So there is a huge backlog of existing products that get little to no care and thus rot in place slowly losing customers as these products are not updated or really supported.

    Advice to Management

    Support your legacy products or end of life them. You have spent a lot of good money creating these products but if they are not maintained and sold, they quickly become just a money sink and a generator of bad customer experiences. Often just a new skin on the website, and a regular sales push will keep the revenue stream from these products growing, but with no updates and no sales push they just slowly rot away.

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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports...tcheap-1084101

    On 01/31/13 I got involved with Global Virual Opportunities aka GoGVO, GVO Academy, HostthenProfit, GVO Titanium, PureLeverage. located at GVO Global Virtual Opportunities, 6701 Guada Coma Drive, Schertz, TX 78154, GoGvo : Web Hosting Services, Web Hosting Company Phone 210.651.4487. I received an e-mail from them promoting their programs and software and an opportunity for a prosperous internet home business. I viewed the videos and read all the testimonies of the fabulous income generated from the program and an opportunity to enroll others so I would receive a very lucrative business income. The websites were all ready to generate income with my user name included in the web address. I received several domains that I submitted with the auto-responder program that I enrolled in. I sent hundreds of e-mails with my web address through the GVO auto-responder. I went to see my results and there was a message that I had exceeded the amount of e-mails and could no longer use the auto-reponder. I submitted a bogus name on site http://hostthenprofit.com/goldenrod/ and GoGvo : Web Hosting Services, Web Hosting Company I didn't receive any response to my optin address. I was solicited by the owner of the company Joel Therien with hundred of e-mails asking me to become a member and affiliate of GOGVO. I couldn't get into my site, because Joel Therien had a video all about himself and the company. and asked the viewer to enroll with their name and e-mail address and they would be able to become a member of the prosperous internet home business that generated thousands of dollars weekly and monthly.

    To tell you the truth the only one getting rich is Joel, because every prospect is actually intercepted by him. Please see if you can stop this scondral from fleecing other prospects. I spent $422.24 with http://hostthenprofit.com/goldenrod/ and Http://goldenrod.GOGVO.com/ and $89.84 with PureLeverage Home | Pure Leverage Both of the companies are owned by Joel Therien.

    Please see if anything can be done to stop Joel Therien and Global Virual Opportunities from fleecing other honest entreprenuers that want to make a decent living and help other in the process.

    I express my gratitude and thanksgiving for whatever you can accomplish in investigating this matter.

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    Just remember before you apply to any jobs at GVO.... the money that comes from your pay check is comming from a person who got scammed in Nowlifestyle.....

    Drum roll and barf bags please https://gogvo.com/jobs.php

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    For anyone who wants to see these scammers in action. I get daily e-mails from Joel about live calls Monday-Friday at 12 pm EST time and Tuesday-Thursday they do live calls at 8 pm EST time..... Out of everyone that gets the e-mail on average there is only about 50-100 show up on the conference (they claim 1,000s of people are signing up to nowlifestyle each day)

    https://nowlifestyle.com/live/

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    [QUOTE=Hockey Fan;123864](they claim 1,000s of people are signing up to nowlifestyle each day)

    https://nowlifestyle.com/live/[/QUOTE

    Oh, really ????

    They must be doing it by remote control, then

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    [QUOTE=littleroundman;123865]
    Quote Originally Posted by Hockey Fan View Post
    (they claim 1,000s of people are signing up to nowlifestyle each day)

    https://nowlifestyle.com/live/[/QUOTE

    Oh, really ????

    They must be doing it by remote control, then

    LRM

    There is a similarity between Joel Therien supporters and Donald Trump supporters-----They will believe anything they say even when the facts don't merit it.... It's like a cult.

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    In Theriens' case, though, there are rapidly decreasing numbers of them
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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    Just Received the following e-mail.... last year the company paid for the 20 top leaders to go to the mansion and brought in 5 clueless marks....Today they are eagerly trying to get more then 5 people to their hq in Schertz LOL

    (My name ) Why you should attend the NLS National Event!

    "Quick Update and why you should attend the NLS National Event in Schertz Texas"

    Join Mike Potvin as he keeps it simple and updates you all on the upcoming National Event in Schertz Texas!

    Live Today at 12pm EST!

    Direct room Access ===> http://www.nowlifestyle.com/live/
    It's not complicated you have everything that you need to get started and execute the perfect business model!

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    More details to follow on the silly national event in Schertz.... they are apparently trying to save money by hosting it in their own city lol

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    Sleazy Top earner in Nowlifestyle Vincent Ortega JR just created a pyramid scheme called Elevated Legacy.... https://elevatedlegacy.com/ feel free to scroll over there to learn more but don't forget the barf bags in his videos on his website he uses his mom and children as bait to cash in on his unsuspecting victims Vincent Ortega Launches Elevated Legacy Scam

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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    Huge Announcement Tomorrow. Joel Therien is going to try to convince everyone he is not a scam!!! Here's the e-mail I received this morning.

    (my name) MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS to make live at 11am Eastern tomorrow

    (my name)some big changes are happening on the internet that are vital that you know about!

    (My name)

    There has been some HUGE CHANGES and shutdowns on the internet lately and I have some MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS you need to hear to protect yourself online!



    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW TO PROTECT YOURSELF ONLINE!!
    When:
    Live webinar tomorrow Saturday July 14, 2018 at 8am Pacific, 10am Central and 11am Eastern

    Where:
    Live in our conference room I have some MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENTS to make.

    => http://www.nowlifestyle.com/live/

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




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    NowLifestyle.com, 6701 Guada Coma Drive, Schertz, Texas, 78154.
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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

    The silly National event in Schertz is out....Here is the pricing LOL

    BASIC
    2 Day Event Pass
    Oct 4th - Oct 5th
    $197
    Per person
    Access To The 2-Day Event
    General Admission Seating
    Live Training Seminars!
    Access To All Workshops
    Live Band
    VIP

    3 Day Event Pass
    Oct 4th - Oct 5th - Oct 6th
    $397
    Per person
    VIP Welcome Surprise Bag
    VIP Front Row Seating
    VIP Badge & T-Shirt
    VIP Dinner
    VIP Open Bar/Live Band
    VIP Mastermind
    VIP Special Secret Excursion
    NLS BBQ

    PLATINUM
    3 Day Event Pass
    Oct 4th - Oct 5th - Oct 6th
    $997
    Per person
    Everything Included In The VIP Ticket PLUS
    Private Coaching With Joel & Top Leaders
    Private Tour Of NLS Main Office
    Private Training & Health Evaluation
    Mastermind 3 Hour Boat Cruise

    https://nowlifestyle.com/members/new...event_tickets/

    Here's the e-mail I received:

    (My name) Nowlifestyle EVENT LIVE IN TEXAS...get on board before we sell out!

    Event Tickets are now on sale for our NLS NATIONAL EVENT in October!
    Grab them now before we sell out!

    Event ticket are now on sale.. we truly only have 500 so grab yours ASAP while we have Early Bird Pricing..

    Grab your tickets right here right now!!

    Events change everything.. everything..

    When you get there your income will soon double, triple or even quadruple fast..

    Being around like minded people makes great things happen.

    Yes.. right now members only pricing is here

    Early next week we will have a page for the general public.. but my feeling is we may sell out to members first!!

    So grab your tickets in your members area now!!

    I will see you right here in Schertz Texas October 4th, 5th & 6th 2018

    There is nothing more profitable then events.. it changes EVERYTHING!!!

    See you there
    --Joel Therien
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    NowLifestyle .com

    P.S. YES tickets are commissionable so get yours now!!

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    Now Last August. Joel paid for the Top 20 leaders and rumor had it only 5 victims were sucked in.... This year Joel says there is only 500 seats available (he's trying to produce scarcity).....I wonder how many clueless marks he will actually sucker in. The tickets range in price from $200 to $1k PER PERSON!!!......So he's hoping to rake in between $100k-$500k depending on how much people pay.... but don't worry he says they are commissionable....... Ohh did I mention in one of the previous e-mails he sent me he bragged how the Mayor from Schertz TX Michael Carpenter will be at the event... LOL.....Just a silly added incentive for people to bilk more money out of your pockets!!!!

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    Can Anyone else guess whos planning to attend this national Event?!?!?

    Scammer Armando Montelongo....Sound familiar? The guy from A&E's Flip This House and the recipent of many complaints from the BBB and Forbes

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/abrambr.../#67e9e67c6701

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sxjB1qs-no

    On Nowlifestyles National Event Page https://nowlifestyle.com/members/new...event_tickets/

    They say about Montelongo

    "Armando Montelongo is America's Original House Flipper and star of A&E's former hit show "Flip This House". He was named the #2 Hispanic businessman in America and he is the country's preeminent authority on Real Estate investment. He has been featured on NATGEO, and CBS's original hit series "Undercover Boss" and to this day his episode still stands as the highest rated ever.

    Armando credits his work in developing a "Millionaire Mindset" as the single biggest reason for his success. He has built a Hundred Million Dollar empire through not only flipping residential and commercial real estate, but also teaching his students the same 'Millionaire Mindset' and real estate investment techniques that he employs to this day.

    Armando believes with a passion that when someone changes their mindset they can change their financial future, and his goal is to do this for as many entreprenuers as he can. He says "if i can just make a person's mindset better 1% per month, the results in a year are astounding!""

    This woman questions Montelongo but he cuts the interview off.....What a scammer

    One final news outlet (but not the only one)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ozlYv0Q6Q1M

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Joel Therien Is At It Again!

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    LRM.... your post is blank?!?

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    How strange.

    The vids show in my post and your quote.

    Can you go to my original post, left click and hold while dragging over the space where the vids should be and let us know if they show, please ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    How strange.

    The vids show in my post and your quote.

    Can you go to my original post, left click and hold while dragging over the space where the vids should be and let us know if they show, please ??
    LRM I tried and nothing here is what I see unnamed.jpg

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    Thanks for that, HF,

    Can I ask what device you're using to access the site ???
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