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    PlanB4You.eu scam

    This scam is being pushed hard by Eva Claesson. She goes by the usernames webfisher or larana (mmg forum). Major ponzi pimp.

    This is an obvious scam, but you can see people calling it a totally legal opportunity. It is big in ponziland, the Netherlands. Also Germany and Portugal, and starting to make headway into the USA. All that members need to do is click 10 banners a day to earn passively. Ponzi!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Here is a link to their youtube videos displaying their ponzi for everyone to see
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb0...aIEk1lMGiK5OoQ

    This is their introductory video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga2c2evuShk
    This is nothing more than an illegal ponzi and you have people on the MMG forum claiming this is a real legitimate, long term business. What an absolute joke!
    Last edited by busttheblock; 04-20-2014 at 04:48 AM.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Here is a response (not sure who the response is to though) from larana (Eva Claesson) on the MMG forum:

    So if you donīt like it
    you donīt have to join.
    Noone is forcing you to.

    It seems that itīs only people who are not in the program yet
    that are negativ.

    We who are in seem to be happy, I think.

    As long as the members are happy with a program
    it doesnīt matter what others think
    as they donīt know what they are talking about.


    It is pretty obvious that the promoters of this scam are trying to portray this as a legit company.
    Yeah sure, most legit companies pay people to click 10 banners a day.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    This post Planb4you - Planb4you.eu is the kind of absolute crap ponzi hype that pisses me off! I'm sure this ponzi scam "company" has purchased 12 factories. BS BS BS BS BS BS

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam



    And, to complete the nonsense, it's advertised on the MMG HYIP ponzi forum where no legitimate business EVER advertises.

    AND,

    registered and hosted in Belgium




    Good luck trying to recover any money from this when it goes belly up.

    And, rest assured, it WILL go belly up and sooner rather than later
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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    This scam is beginning to gain a bit of traction because more and more scam pimps are portraying this as real business. This is nothing more than a scam ponzi!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    This is a real Business period,
    guys you should really do your homework better here and not just jump to concludes... but I can see where you coming from,
    so many scaming programs and scaming programs pimps out there
    I personally know the owner of the company and know some of the plans that they have set up for the future,
    and this is going to be a huge business, since it was built with super minded people, with allot of influence in the financial world, and with allot of money to invest,
    PlanB4You has not even been born yet, but don't take any of my words here , just wait and see...soon it will.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    you're not getting your money back no matter how bad you try and justify the scam on anti-scam boards.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    I dont think that this is a scam because you dont need to recruit new people and you must buy for 25% products in their store so i think that this is legit company.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Quote Originally Posted by lukanos View Post
    I dont think that this is a scam because you dont need to recruit new people and you must buy for 25% products in their store so i think that this is legit company.
    Why do I need a referrer to join?

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Quote Originally Posted by lukanos View Post
    I dont think that this is a scam because you dont need to recruit new people and you must buy for 25% products in their store so i think that this is legit company.
    Don't NEED to recruit, but, if you do you can earn more, with no restriction on recruiting - making it a pyramid scheme

    Have to spend 25% of your earnings in the store - you don't even get paid 100% of your earnings.

    Being paid from (non existent) "advertising revenue" = ponzi

    IOW, lukanos, kiss your money goodbye.
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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Quote Originally Posted by shayguy View Post
    this is going to be a huge business, since it was built with super minded people, with allot of influence in the financial world, and with allot of money to invest,
    Why do people with allot [sic] of money to invest need to advertise for members on Ponzi forums? Why would they not just do what everyone else with allot [sic] of money to invest does and start a business and then have customers come and pay cash for what they are selling? That is the method used by legitimate businesses since the beginning of time.

    By comparison endless recruiting has been used in 100% of Ponzi and Pyramid schemes for the obvious reason that they need money, hence not allot [sic] of their own.
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    you make allot [sic] of sense

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Its a ponzi scheme. Only thing you have to do is pay 40 euro's and click on 10 ads for 25 days. Then you've got a magical 25% ROI.
    You can even give more money to PlanB4You to get 'blocks' that will earn you even more money. And of course you can recruit people to earn more money, but it is not necessary to do so to still get a ridiculous ROI.
    Soon after the launch, even the owner of PlanB4You figured out that this was too obvious of a ponzi scheme. Like as if there ever is a company that pays zombies to click its own ads and pay them for it.

    So he made an imaginary shopping community as a cover for the ponzi. Now, PlanB4You promotors think that the money they earn comes from revenue of the sales of products from the PlanB4You webshop. Just don't ask them who's buying these products, then the PlanB4You promotors brain goes TILT and he gets angry and walks away, as there's no one who's buying these products and they know it.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Money's coming from advertising where advertisers have to pay big, because who can offer 2.5 million hits a month, must pay big.
    Money's coming from selling products, which "can" be bought by members but also by other people visiting the webshop.
    Money's coming from products sold by planb itself, where members have obligations/stocks.

    Money isn't coming from other members who are paying. I caan't see how. Talking about 40 euros going in and thousands going out. Explain?!?

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    wrongly informed, my friend.
    What you don't know scares you, right?
    Been paid over and over again and still get more. Because of the fact you don't NEED to recruit, it proves it isn't a scam. Don't you know what's really ponzi? Did you do your homework?

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Quote Originally Posted by freighttrain View Post
    Its a ponzi scheme. Only thing you have to do is pay 40 euro's and click on 10 ads for 25 days. Then you've got a magical 25% ROI.
    You can even give more money to PlanB4You to get 'blocks' that will earn you even more money. And of course you can recruit people to earn more money, but it is not necessary to do so to still get a ridiculous ROI.
    Ridiculous ah? Being paid over and over again

    Soon after the launch, even the owner of PlanB4You figured out that this was too obvious of a ponzi scheme. Like as if there ever is a company that pays zombies to click its own ads and pay them for it.
    So he went to american lawyers and asked them to investigate his own company and the outcome was, than PlanB is a legit business


    So he made an imaginary shopping community as a cover for the ponzi. Now, PlanB4You promotors think that the money they earn comes from revenue of the sales of products from the PlanB4You webshop. Just don't ask them who's buying these products, then the PlanB4You promotors brain goes TILT and he gets angry and walks away, as there's no one who's buying these products and they know it.
    The money comes from advertisers itself who wants to be part of the 2,5 million hits a month. Talking about Alexa ranking. Growing every day. And money comes from selling really the products to members and non-members. And ofcourse our stocks!!!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Promoted on the same Money Making Group bought out by freelancer. com, right!!?? Anyone hanging around that place is going to get taken or rip someone off.
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    I believe you are thinking of the warrior forum scratchy.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Quote Originally Posted by scratchycat View Post
    Promoted on the same Money Making Group bought out by freelancer. com, right!!?? Anyone hanging around that place is going to get taken or rip someone off.
    You are entirely correct Whip and thanks for pointing it out!! I don't hang around much anymore but later I remembered that was not the right one!! Oh, well, this might be next on their list of buyouts!!
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    This scam does not earn any revenu from all the clicking, they have said themselves that they are going to close the first click based contracts in 2015.
    This scam is currently being investigated by the Dutch authorities who suspect it to be illegal. Their offices and warehouse have been sealed.
    The bank ING where they had their accounts until a few weeks ago froze all their accounts because the bank suspects they are fraudulent.
    The books for 2013 show a huge loss (you can consult them publicly).
    It seems that they are running out of money and stalling their imminent downfall with a) asking for a yearly contribution b) freezing they daily profits c) making up excuses for not paying out (they have been doing that since early august).
    The person who runs this scheme went bankrupt running a single restaurant a while ago. Now he's going to start a whole chain of restaurants through PlanB4you. That should go well!

    All this information is either publicly available or it comes from information PlanB4you or close associates of PlanB4you have provided, be it buried beneath layers of nonsense.

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    John Muyris has the Plan for you over in FB.

    https://www.facebook.com/pages/Johns...60649800748174

    See a lot of familiar faces and they are usually gathered around any of the scamming schemes, gotta support your 'friends' you know. He is also into another run on SFI, they just keep changing that one. Strong Future International (Sure Fire Income!)
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Oh geez, now why did I go there! One of our 'flavored' members of RS runs this one (SFI) in FB. Isn't there a long past thread here related to this scheming program?? https://www.facebook.com/groups/Mart...DOTtk/members/

    You don't need to look far to find all these people buzzing around the hives of "programs".
    Don't get ripped off!! Stay informed!

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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    Things sure are fun over at the MMG thread for this Ponzi. Seems larana has me on ignore, and poor zoezeth is upset that I have all this time to "dig up dirt" on pb4y. Guess zoezeth hasn't figured out that you cannot "dig up dirt" if there is no dirt to dig up. Actually it took little effort to "dig up dirt" on pb4y.

    Now what was truly funny is that one of the members tried to claim that all the major companies in the store were paying to advertise on pb4y, which is proof they are desperate to try to give pb4y the look of legitimacy. Not only did I point out this was a lie, but so has another poster who happens to be a member and gets it.

    Now it is a 3-way race to see which program is going to collapse first: pb4y, GAS or AGN. All three are having major issues simultaneously. I doubt if all three last the month at the rate they are collapsing.
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    Re: PlanB4You.eu scam

    More proof that this "company" is a joke.
    PlanB4You the cached terms / general conditions of 7 october. They mention that the DUTCH law is applicable. The Dutch law explicitly forbids that companies ask for personal data like copies of ID's.
    PlanB4You the same page now. It mentions that BELGIAN law is applicable. The law of that country allows companies to ask for copies of IDs.

    PlanB4you changed their terms stealthily to fit their goals. They didn't tell anyone even though the terms explicitly state that if any changes to the terms occur, the members will be notified. They also didn't change the date of the terms or indicate anywhere that they were changed.

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