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Thread: MLMers went nuts over Dave Ramsey's realistic outlook on MLM

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    kschang is offline Senior Scambuster
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    MLMers went nuts over Dave Ramsey's realistic outlook on MLM


    On August 10th, 2016, at about the 7:48 point, a "Sarah from Cincinnati Ohio" called in and asked about joining "It Works!" MLM. Ramsey urged caution and be absolutely aware what she wants to do going in. His message was "... You will be in the recruiting business. There is nothing really inherently bad or evil about it, Your real job is training salespeople, in a high turnover environment, because most of them don't make it... I have friends that makes 7 figures in that business... But for every one of those, I know a thousand (chuckles) that didn't last 90 days, with six boxes of makeup in the garage they are still paying off on credit card... Is this really your calling if you had lost everything and starting from scratch? ... You ought to really thinking about what you're getting into. But if you want to give it a run, I will support you on it... "

    The MLM sphere went nuts as they reacted with venom. So-called MLM 'leaders' started posting videos 'Dave Ramsey is Wrong'. Here's a typical reaction from Eric Worre of networkmarketingpro.com:
    Dave (Ramsey) went on to pour cold water all over the hopes and dreams of this young woman, and pigeon holed the Network Marketing profession into his very limited understanding of what it is all about.
    Full report at A (MLM) Skeptic: Eric Worre is wrong about Dave Ramsey: or, why MLM advocates only knows truthiness, not truth

    Even now the Youtube link https://www.youtube.com/watch?annota...3TGz6M#t=7m48s the comment battle continues.
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    Re: MLMers went nuts over Dave Ramsey's realistic outlook on MLM

    Feel free to join the G+ "discussions"

    Though it's more like my lessons on skepticism, as these MLMers keep coming up with non-sensical statements like "MLM is a 1.7 trillion industry", "Avon is nothing compared to bigger MLMs" and "Amway Japan is the biggest company there and has been trading for 55 years". In reality, WFDSA estimate GLOBAL market of MLM to be 182 billion, Avon's 9.95 billion revenue (2013) puts it right next to Amway in terms of revenue and 3 times larger than Herbalife (3.8 billion, 2014). Amway Japan wasn't created until 1979 and can't have existed for 55 years, and its revenue, 1 billion is less than half percent of Toyota's revenue.

    These MLMers can't argue worth ****. They lived in the echo chamber too long. We need to have people who constantly push back against such nonsense.
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    Re: MLMers went nuts over Dave Ramsey's realistic outlook on MLM

    Reality is not in their vocabulary.
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    Re: MLMers went nuts over Dave Ramsey's realistic outlook on MLM

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Reality is not in their vocabulary.
    That, added with MLM math, makes for interesting discussion.


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