Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Richard Walletblaster is trying hard to get a training group together.....

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..........but it doesn't look as if it is going terribly well.....

Originally Posted by Della Cate

..........but it doesn't look as if it is going terribly well.....

Probably needs better marketing

Don't you just LOVE an optimist???

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Dickie, you got your microwave from MAPs, but I wouldn't count on getting anything bigger - like a vacuum cleaner - anytime soon, my love......

Remember Dennis Cole? Over on his FB page, he posted the latest update from Our Tone:-

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The innocent, helpful update attracted one negative comment...

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Devin Hartman. Husband to Claire Hartman James is he not? She who bangs on about "positive minds" etc. Well, no wonder they're a bit miffed. Not so long ago there was much boasting on FB about selling their house and moving from Essex to Norfolk, where Mrs H-J was going to run some sort of "wellness" centre. And then MAPs/TAP stops paying out and poof! That seems to be the end of the grand plans, and Mrs H-J has to start again with Recyclix, Skinny Body Care and now IML. What a bummer eh?

Perhaps the H-J's should try to look at this more positively, and not gripe and moan, what do you think?

It is always fun to read the comments before their Ponzi de Jour goes bust to after their Ponzi de Jour goes bust. Amazing how fast they turn on a dime and become just a regular affiliate like everyone else when it fails.

You can always tell the newbie Ponzi pimp because they don't how to get out early so when their Ponzi de Jour goes belly-up they aren't around to get hit with the shrapnel and fallout. The Pro's know how to time it so they suffer minimal damage to their reputations within the Ponzi community. It's how they sucker their downline to follow them into their new Ponzi de Jour.

This time Claire is not going to be able to move on to her next Ponzi de Jour without suffering some major fallout from her role in MAP. Too many in her downline have been hurt big-time financially, and they are not willingly going into her next program that can't miss. It's why so many of them, like Claire, don't' do well in their next Ponzi de Jour. They just keep enough people in their downline in the new Ponzi to rake in any money like she did in MAP.

Simon is facing the same issue with his downline following him into MPA. First most don't have any money to do so, and second some who followed him into MAP were also in BB and got burned. His jumping into two others that failed before pimping MPA further hurt him getting a huge MPA downline like he had in MAP.

Luckily there are a lot more people that are waking up and listening to us "haters" instead of believing all the lies and hype espoused by the promoters of MAP/TAP. One thing that I have noticed in both TM and MAP/TAP in the UK and Europe is that there are far more who would physically do bodily harm to the promoters of both programs than I have ever seen in former Ponzi's. The truly scary part is they wouldn't care if they got arrested if they did it. The satisfaction for them would far outweigh the consequences in their minds eye. My concern is not only that someone will do it, but how many would gladly do it. I would not want to be in Tony's, Lynne's, Simon's, Jules, Claire's, Ari's, Darren's, Sunil's, Immy's, Jose's, or any of the other major pimps shoes now.

Originally Posted by EagleOne

It is always fun to read the comments before their Ponzi de Jour goes bust to after their Ponzi de Jour goes bust. Amazing how fast they turn on a dime and become just a regular affiliate like everyone else when it fails.

You can always tell the newbie Ponzi pimp because they don't how to get out early so when their Ponzi de Jour goes belly-up they aren't around to get hit with the shrapnel and fallout. The Pro's know how to time it so they suffer minimal damage to their reputations within the Ponzi community. It's how they sucker their downline to follow them into their new Ponzi de Jour.

This time Claire is not going to be able to move on to her next Ponzi de Jour without suffering some major fallout from her role in MAP. Too many in her downline have been hurt big-time financially, and they are not willingly going into her next program that can't miss. It's why so many of them, like Claire, don't' do well in their next Ponzi de Jour. They just keep enough people in their downline in the new Ponzi to rake in any money like she did in MAP.

Simon is facing the same issue with his downline following him into MPA. First most don't have any money to do so, and second some who followed him into MAP were also in BB and got burned. His jumping into two others that failed before pimping MPA further hurt him getting a huge MPA downline like he had in MAP.

Luckily there are a lot more people that are waking up and listening to us "haters" instead of believing all the lies and hype espoused by the promoters of MAP/TAP. One thing that I have noticed in both TM and MAP/TAP in the UK and Europe is that there are far more who would physically do bodily harm to the promoters of both programs than I have ever seen in former Ponzi's. The truly scary part is they wouldn't care if they got arrested if they did it. The satisfaction for them would far outweigh the consequences in their minds eye. My concern is not only that someone will do it, but how many would gladly do it. I would not want to be in Tony's, Lynne's, Simon's, Jules, Claire's, Ari's, Darren's, Sunil's, Immy's, Jose's, or any of the other major pimps shoes now.

What I don't get, Eagle, is not how these people jump from scheme to scheme, but why.

I'm not talking about the small people who may be having their first outing. I'm talking about the seasoned players. They MUST, must, must know what they are getting into. I refuse to believe that they don't know that they are scams. Even worse, they must know - but they don't care. As long as they get some money out of it, what the hell!

I cannot comprehend that attitude. They can't pretend they don't know, especially when some of them have been in the game for many years.

And if they don't know, after going from one failing venture to the next, then they are spectacularly stupid and shouldn't be giving out advice about money - or anything else.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

As long as they get some money out of it, what the hell!

Got it in one.

Anything else is superfluous

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Got it in one.

Anything else is superfluous

But how can anybody live with themselves with that attitude? Don't they feel guilt? Don't they ever think that, um, it's wrong?


I know everyone's different, but sheesh, talk about a broken moral compass!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Don't they feel guilt? Don't they ever think that, um, it's wrong?

Simple answer = no they don't

They want - they take.

Entitlement at its' finest

Originally Posted by Della Cate

What I don't get, Eagle, is not how these people jump from scheme to scheme, but why.

I'm not talking about the small people who may be having their first outing. I'm talking about the seasoned players. They MUST, must, must know what they are getting into. I refuse to believe that they don't know that they are scams. Even worse, they must know - but they don't care. As long as they get some money out of it, what the hell!

I cannot comprehend that attitude. They can't pretend they don't know, especially when some of them have been in the game for many years.

And if they don't know, after going from one failing venture to the next, then they are spectacularly stupid and shouldn't be giving out advice about money - or anything else.

I do not see any problem with players (not pimps) , you see , they know the ponzis will be there so the dumb victims will be there, why not ride that wave ? immoral ? maybe , but it is the only honest group in that whole "HYIP industry" , they do not recruit , they do not run programs , just cast their nets and wait for the dumb fish. Now i wish if the whole HYIP industry will be just of admins and players, that would be a fair game , but not for long , players know what they are dealing with and withdrawing everything they can religiously , which would destroy any HYIP in the first cycle , unless the majority of investors there are dumb suckers who deserve to be exploited by admin, while the players are feeding on the crumbs. Perhaps immoral, but there are a lot of real world jobs which are legal and doing exactly that and nobody sees them as immoral.

Originally Posted by NikSam

I do not see any problem with players (not pimps) , you see , they know the ponzis will be there so the dumb victims will be there, why not ride that wave ? immoral ? maybe , but it is the only honest group in that whole "HYIP industry" , they do not recruit , they do not run programs , just cast their nets and wait for the dumb fish. Now i wish if the whole HYIP industry will be just of admins and players, that would be a fair game , but not for long , players know what they are dealing with and withdrawing everything they can religiously , which would destroy any HYIP in the first cycle , unless the majority of investors there are dumb suckers who deserve to be exploited by admin, while the players are feeding on the crumbs. Perhaps immoral, but there are a lot of real world jobs which are legal and doing exactly that and nobody sees them as immoral.

But I think the majority of "players" DO RECRUIT. I had it on good authority from one that "the way to make money from rev-shares is from the commissions" ...
("The only honest group in the whole HYPI industry" !!! ??? Stunned by that statement)

Originally Posted by stephenjgray

But I think the majority of "players" DO RECRUIT. I had it on good authority from one that "the way to make money from rev-shares is from the commissions" ...
("The only honest group in the whole HYPI industry" !!! ??? Stunned by that statement)

A player and a pimp are different types, pimps are trying to get people in and not to risk financially. A player is a cold blooded gambler , he estimates how long the ponzi will live, what a potential to attrack the masses, what percentage of his money pool he willl allocate to this specific ponzi. No , they never recruit, they do not need any publicity, they almost never use real names to register (they know what clawbacks are) , they might share the opinions with others about specific ponzis , and yes its very honest group in the whole scene (except sending photoshoped scans of passport to HYIP-freindly pay processors and other crooks, but cheating a cheat is still honest in my book).

"the way to make money from rev-shares is from the commissions" - not for long, you might need a huge charisma and be a sociopat like Stepsys. After first or second ponzi your reputation will go to ****, how do you expect the crowds following you if you do not give them the constant profits? Do you think a lot of those pimps really earn what they say they do ?
Nope, most of them like Richard are ass-broke , trying to show off as succeseful.

The best way to make money from "rev-shares" is to run them - but you need special skills not to get caught and to attrack suckers and to be a sociopath.

I just love the German translations...


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Cornelius Booker 111, the Chief Operations Officer from My Advertising Pays, who has never said or done anything that we know of, sure has a lot of interesting friends...

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Actually I am shocked that more of the major pimps of this aren't listed as his friends. It kind of flies in their claim of undying loyalty to MAP/TAP by not being listed as his friend. Then it is also possible that he declined their friendship request as he wanted to keep his profile to a minimum of exposure.

He may try to claim that he was the COO in name only and actually had nothing to do with the business. Heck for all we know, he could have resigned a long time ago. Hopefully the authorities will shut this down and then we can find out what all went on behind the scenes and who really were the major players that have remained hidden from everyone.

Meanwhile, over at VXGateway...

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

Cornelius Booker 111, the Chief Operations Officer from My Advertising Pays, who has never said or done anything that we know of, sure has a lot of interesting friends...

Yup, he sure has....

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Round up the usual suspects, eh??

it's a real life scumbag roundtable.

Originally Posted by Whip

it's a real life scumbag roundtable.

LOL, roll call at Scammer Central!

...meanwhile, following a very interesting Facebook message (more on that later) I've done a little bit of background on GPN Data:

https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.co.u...-gpn-data.html

Originally Posted by HARRISON

...meanwhile, following a very interesting Facebook message (more on that later) I've done a little bit of background on GPN Data:

https://taratalkstoday.blogspot.co.u...-gpn-data.html

Any news on TAP? Is that swirling the plug hole too?

Originally Posted by nerd

Any news on TAP? Is that swirling the plug hole too?

I linked this from Tony Booth https://www.facebook.com/theadvertpl...nf&pnref=story . The couch hussies are posting the same nonsensical stuff every day. Seriously who can believe they're even proofing their work???

Zero fanfare One raving fan who is probably not half of the mystery billionaires Deese is talking t.

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Let's contrast dat TAP buzz with the likes, comments, and shares generated by the "Kevin M James the Owner of a Mercedes" like farming scam.

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No, Kevin M James the 'Owner of Mercedes', is not Giving Away Cars on Facebook - Hoax-Slayer

Booth and Deese were floated by http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/ and should have quit with the fakey $60M theft. But they're piggies, stupid greedy piggies.

Ooops! Thought I'd just have a look..........

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.............not that there's much to look at, it seems.

Originally Posted by nerd

Any news on TAP? Is that swirling the plug hole too?

Great question....the silence is deafening isn't it. Makes you wonder what's going on behind those curtains?
Has Mike found all that missing money down the back of his sofa?
Has Lynne found another use for her laptop?
Has Tony found some extra big, humungus pipes to fix..whatever needs fixing?

Oh to be a fly on that wall...