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    everything is going exactly as they had hoped/planned. now scammer deese throws his hands up and says ‘oh well, we can’t be wasting time in panama’ then split the treasure of their efforts.
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    Article from the always excellent Oz

    My Advertising Pays processor lawsuit dismissed

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    How are the mightly fallen.

    Here is our old friend, Dickie Walletblaster, advising people not to be in too big a rush to give up their JOB to try to make it big with online schemes:-

    RA May 17.jpg

    And so many of his little pals line up to agree.....some well known names I've marked with a star....

    RA 2 May 17.jpg RA 3 May 17.jpg

    Some of them seem to have also given up their jobs, but it doesn't sound as if everything went smoothly. Yet i have to ask how many of them will be rushing back into new "big things"? Looks like Dickie is already into "I coin Pro" just set up by various people, including "IM Bigg" / Lloyd Dotson. Another sure fire winner, eh, Dickie?

    RA 4 May 17.jpg

    (I wonder if that nice Mr Stepsys is going to have a dabble with that one? Just asking. )

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    I will give http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/ credit for one thing, the piece of **** works his ass off. Stepsys flew around the world screwing people over in MAP, a standing ovation for putting in a days work. Same can't be said about this lot whiling the days away on Facebook and pining about someday.

    Didn't learn, five scams is the same as one except its five.

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    Didn't learn, what the people listening to Martin Codack need to understand is he promotes scams.

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    Didn't learn, what product did MAP have that "worked" other than GRQ? Are people asking about their money or their ads?

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    Didn't learn, this monkey couldn't even get the first stream of income right. Multiple pssssft streams of failure maybe.

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    Really didn't ******* learn, but that's the spirit.

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    The biggest lesson I learned from suckers wanting to earn an online income this past year is keep your jobs people. No I'm kidding I already knew that.

    I learned Stepsys was even broker than I originally thought. The con had to bail from his rented mansion and move into a shanty his bartender girlfriend demoed. If a dump like that waits the guy who professes to have shown people how to make money online for 19 years what of the sorry lot above? Does anyone remember how proud Deese was that Walletblaster could afford a microwave? I hope he kept the receipt on account of pawnshops are loaded with that sort of swag. These people simply don't want to work, and certainly not as hard as Simon. Simon for that brilliant effort can barely keep his head above water these days.
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    The mapmembersunited page on Facebook
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    VX GATEWAY TRUSTEE UPDATE
    12th JUNE 2017

    US District Court Case Dismissed


    The case filed in the US District Court in Houston, Texas by MyAdvertisingPays (MAP) Limited (“MAP”) and Michael Deese against VX Gateway has been dismissed.

    As we had predicted in an earlier Trustee Update, the Court ruled that disputes relating to the service agreement between VX Gateway Inc., in dissolution (“VX Gateway”) and MAP, must be heard in Panama; it specifically recognized Panama jurisdiction and the venue selection clause requiring such disputes to be decided by arbitration in Panama.

    Many have been left wondering why MAP pursued a frivolous case in the US? Possibly it was because MAP had no credible or complete financial records and thus could not substantiate a claim to VX Gateway in the dissolution claims procedure; in this regard, it should be pointed out that although invited to do so, MAP never filed a claim in the dissolution. Let's state that again: MAP intentionally failed to file a claim (for itself or its members) in the dissolution proceeding for what it contended was $60 million; why?.

    Similarly, lacking such financial records, MAP may not have been physically able to set forth a viable claim to an Arbitrator in Panama as required by the service agreement. Or perhaps, as we have said in an earlier Trustee Update, the case was filed by MAP in the US simply to buy time? Time to start a new company, or time to avoid facing authorities perhaps?

    Our Legal Counsel in Panama feels that the burden of proof is higher in Panama for arbitration than in the US. In arbitration in Panama MAP will be required to support any claim with its own internal audited financial statements. They will not be able to rely on the financial records of third parties, which they have done so far.

    The most recent “audit” put forth by MAP was not an audit made in the manner that will be required in such arbitration. Describing it as an audit in that sense of the term is deceptive and misleading. While it purported to be a “top-to-bottom study of the VX draws, and finally gross receipts to MAP”, it completely failed to take into account “withdraws and disbursements to MAP members, VX draws, and finally gross receipts to MAP”.

    In fact, MAP’s auditor, Alpha Performance Verification Services, in its so-called “audit”, did nothing more than use Excel to summarize the financial statements of the processors. It excluded (omitted) any MAP financial transactions, processor fees or VX Gateway fees. Common sense and basic accounting tells us that, if the processor financial statements were incomplete or erroneous, the “audit” would likewise be incomplete or erroneous. This is commonly described as “garbage in ...garbage out”. Surely congratulations are in order for Alpha Performance Verification Services' fine work (not).

    VX Gateway stands ready to participate in arbitration in Panama. We have had a complete and accurate audit conducted by CSB. Review of the CSB audit will leave no doubt that the lawsuit in Houston was specious and possibly intended by MAP or its legal counsel to mislead its members and the public.

    The $60 million Was Never Stolen or Missing

    While the case in the US was dismissed for improper venue and lack of the jurisdiction, the claims made in the case by MAP had no merits. The $60 million was never stolen. It is not even missing; it can be found in the CSB audit without difficulty.

    MAP’s claim that these funds are “missing” or “stolen” is clearly erroneous. MAP admits it arrived at the $60 million dollar amount by simply deducting the dollar amount of “credit card sales” from “total sales”, that is, by using simple math as follows:

    Total Sales
    - Credit Card Sales
    ===================
    Missing Amount

    However, as is obvious to anyone familiar with the facts, sales were made not just via credit card transactions but also by payments directly from VXLOOP Accounts that were funded directly by customers from their bank accounts. The simple correct math then is:

    Total Sales
    - Credit Card Sales, and
    - VXLOOP Account Sales
    ===================
    Correct Amount zero. Nothing missing

    Interestingly, as reflected in the CSB audit on file as part of the discovery provided by VX Gateway, the dollar amount of VXLOOP Account Sales, that is, the entry that is missing in MAP's math, almost exactly matches the amount MAP claims as “missing” or “stolen” (subject to fees and final audit).

    Was this omission a simple mistake by MAP or deliberate deception? MAP was well aware of the substantial amount of sales paid by VXLOOP Account balances, as opposed to just the sales paid by card. This information was available in real time at the VX Gateway merchant back office to which MAP had 24/7 access prior to its breach of the contract. No company whose existence is based upon sales would simply ignore sales figures. MAP must be presumed to have made and kept copies of such records covering total sales. Put simply, the CSB Audit indicates that there is not and never was a missing $60 million.

    Anyone can file a lawsuit in the USA; merely filing lawsuit it is not evidence of the legality of the plaintiff’s business, nor evidence of an illegal act, nor proof of the merits of the case filed. A lawsuit is simply one party's claim against another party; it is just a claim, nothing more. All it takes to file a lawsuit is to be able to pay the legal fees.

    A Formal Complaint Against GPN Data Has Been Made to the Mauritius Financial Commission

    Now that the distraction of the frivolous US lawsuit is behind us, we have submitted a formal complaint against GPN Data to the Mauritius Financial Commission.

    VX Gateway's complaint can be summarized as follows:

    GPN Data misrepresented itself as being a Mauritius licensed Payment Service Provider.
    Bank One Mauritius, which provided card processing for GPN Data, participated in the deception.
    GPN Data deliberately and systematically falsified financial statements, understating processing by USD $5,103,817.71 and EUR €307,479.89 and thereby underpaying VX Gateway.
    GPN Data also falsified payment records, asserting payments to VX Gateway that had not actually been paid, a total of USD $941,347.57.
    As set forth in the CSB audit, these intentional underpayments, combined with significant unjustified holdbacks by GPN Data, total USD $12,456,331.51 and EUR €1,272,465.69, as detailed in the Trustee Report.

    As we have consistently stated, when and if money is received from GPN Data, VX Gateway will then pass through whatever share is then due to each of the respective entities or parties.

    VX Gateway in dissolution prepared this statement based on the information available to it, including information derived from public sources that have not been independently verified. No representation or warranty, express or implied, is provided in relation to the fairness, accuracy, correctness, completeness or reliability of the information, opinions or conclusions expressed herein. The financial information included in this presentation is preliminary, unaudited and subject to revision upon completion of the Company's closing and audit processes, as well as independent third party audits. This presentation is not a legal opinion, but general discussion, not intended to deal with or disclose particulars of any specific issue, legal, business, or otherwise. All applicable statutes and regulations control.'

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    so have they ever explained yet why they are using GPN data again in the new scam?
    Do none of the marks actually realize this?
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    Latest Company Announcement from Mike:

    June 16th 2017
    'Today we would like to announce a couple of exciting changes to our website! Our development team has been working very hard on providing our TAP affiliates with a professional website that will help you all build your teams much more successfully. With that, we would like to proudly introduce our newly designed website! Please log out of your account, direct your browser to our home page and explore the new changes! It’s very modern and something to be proud to promote!
    Second, as announced at the TAP presentation at Bolton Arena in December 2016, we are now implementing a new payout procedure for those affiliates that are working hard to build their businesses because they deserve to be rewarded! With hard work and dedication, not only will you increase your income, but you will also decrease the number of days that you must wait for a payout!
    Here is the structure:
    Withdrawal Processing Times are now linked to Affiliate Commission Earnings from Previous 30 days:
    Under €10 Earnings = 14 days processing time
    Over €10 Earnings = 13 days processing time
    Over €50 Earnings = 12 days processing time
    Over €250 Earnings = 9 days processing time
    Over €10,000 Earnings = 5 days processing time
    Over €25,000 Earnings = 1 day processing time
    How cool is that!? Work hard and get paid right away! Even with all the negativity in the marketplace, we continue o strive towards providing valuable services and generous payouts to our members. Without you guys, we would be nothing. Thank you to those that continue to support our Mission and Vision!
    -MD
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    Why does it take 14 days to process under $10 and only one day to process $25,000? Comical BS at least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Latest Company Announcement from Mike:

    June 16th 2017
    'Today we would like to announce a couple of exciting changes to our website! Our development team has been working very hard on providing our TAP affiliates with a professional website that will help you all build your teams much more successfully. With that, we would like to proudly introduce our newly designed website! Please log out of your account, direct your browser to our home page and explore the new changes! It’s very modern and something to be proud to promote!
    Second, as announced at the TAP presentation at Bolton Arena in December 2016, we are now implementing a new payout procedure for those affiliates that are working hard to build their businesses because they deserve to be rewarded! With hard work and dedication, not only will you increase your income, but you will also decrease the number of days that you must wait for a payout!
    Here is the structure:
    Withdrawal Processing Times are now linked to Affiliate Commission Earnings from Previous 30 days:
    Under €10 Earnings = 14 days processing time
    Over €10 Earnings = 13 days processing time
    Over €50 Earnings = 12 days processing time
    Over €250 Earnings = 9 days processing time
    Over €10,000 Earnings = 5 days processing time
    Over €25,000 Earnings = 1 day processing time
    How cool is that!? Work hard and get paid right away! Even with all the negativity in the marketplace, we continue o strive towards providing valuable services and generous payouts to our members. Without you guys, we would be nothing. Thank you to those that continue to support our Mission and Vision!
    -MD
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    Why does it take 14 days to process under $10 and only one day to process $25,000? Comical BS at least.
    So, let me get this straight.....the more you "earn" the quicker they process it? One day for $25k. What happens if you earn $50k, do they give it you before you accrue it? Makes no sense, surely the process is the process regardless of the amount?

    Or - wait - do they hope people won't bother cashing in small amounts, they'll wait until they have bigger amounts to cash in, thinking they will get them more quickly?? Sounds to me like they want to stop small withdrawals, or at least slow them down.

    I'm actually quite surprised that this is still going. Haven't heard much about it lately (mind you, I haven't looked), but there it is, still trundling on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Or - wait - do they hope people won't bother cashing in small amounts, they'll wait until they have bigger amounts to cash in, thinking they will get them more quickly?? Sounds to me like they want to stop small withdrawals, or at least slow them down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate
    One day for $25k.
    QUESTION: who is going to earn $25K or even $10k in a dying ponzi ????

    ANSWER: Nobody.

    Which makes Deese' statement pointless
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    So, let me get this straight.....the more you "earn" the quicker they process it? One day for $25k. What happens if you earn $50k,.

    Della this is how I read this, Deese is talking about Affiliate Commissions from recruiting, not earnings from that other crap people are doing in fantasy land. Someone deft enough to collect $250K from suckers in a scam three years past its prime shouldn't even have to wait a day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Deese aka The World's Shortest Con Playing the Long Con
    Withdrawal Processing Times are now linked to Affiliate Commission Earnings from Previous 30 days:
    This sort of gave it away.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike Deese aka The World's Shortest Con Playing the Long Con
    Work hard and get paid right away!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    How are the mightly fallen.

    Here is our old friend, Dickie Walletblaster, advising people not to be in too big a rush to give up their JOB to try to make it big with online schemes:-

    RA May 17.jpg

    And so many of his little pals line up to agree.....some well known names I've marked with a star....

    RA 2 May 17.jpg RA 3 May 17.jpg

    Some of them seem to have also given up their jobs, but it doesn't sound as if everything went smoothly. Yet i have to ask how many of them will be rushing back into new "big things"? Looks like Dickie is already into "I coin Pro" just set up by various people, including "IM Bigg" / Lloyd Dotson. Another sure fire winner, eh, Dickie?

    RA 4 May 17.jpg

    (I wonder if that nice Mr Stepsys is going to have a dabble with that one? Just asking. )
    That Dickie Arseblaster - he's a baller, I tells ya $_$

    I haven't followed this thread for a while (too much fun over on Scoville The Wonder Chimp's thread) but I'm assuming young Richard and pals are killing it still?

    And by "killing it", I mean as in not doing at all well?

    In MUGS or any other big, shiny turd on a keychain that they're dangling from?


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    Well, well, well,

    Dickie Walletblaster is back in the ponzi business.

    That retirement didn't last long, did it ???




    No surprises here then

    The guy's a dead set self destructive desperado in urgent need of professional help.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Well, well, well,

    Dickie Walletblaster is back in the ponzi business.

    That retirement didn't last long, did it ???




    No surprises here then

    The guy's a dead set self destructive desperado in urgent need of professional help.
    He wouldn't know a legitimate business if it crawled up his kneecap.

    Of that I am most solely convinced now.

    Shame there's no convincing Richard though.

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    Why don't the Media get these scams? Why is it so hard to get them to print a story? Despite umpteen blogs and forums like these, they just don't seem to understand how these scams work. The Mirror is the only one who has taken MAP seriously and given it some space. I've had contact with lots of media by email and phone, even a TV station!...waste of time. They never print what they say they will and I'm certainly not the only one to contact them, so why don't they publish?
    The papers love Romance scams, and rightly so, but you need to X that by thousands and you still haven't scratched the surface of the scams we expose here. Millions and millions of dollars gets stolen by these crooks and they mostly get away with it. Or if they do get caught they get pathetic sentences like Chris and Raj did, which, by the way, the Canadian press couldn't be bothered to report about either.

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    Harrison, A good question with a multi-layer and difficult answer.

    Let me try to explain the difficulty we all face when contacting the media about doing a story on a major Ponzi/scam:

    In many cases you have to write their article for them if you want it published. You have to have to provide them with a list of people to interview that were in the scam/Ponzi. The problem is that many of the victims do not want to be interviewed. They like to complain on the forums, but won't do it in print or on TV. You also run into which reporter to contact. Do you go to the financial news reporter, general interest reporter, the investigative reporter, or all three? The best solution is to talk to every reporter that will talk to you in the same media outlet. The problem is each one has to pitch their story to their editor, and the editor can refuse to allow the reporter to develop the story, and then after it is finished to run the story. The reporters just can't take your word it is a scam/Ponzi because they don't know you and until they do, they need to be shown you do know what you are talking about before they are willing to invest their time in pitching the story to their editor. You have to treat working with reporters like courtship. You have to spend a lot of time with them developing your relationship before you can ask them to the dance...pitch the story. But before you contact any reporter, learn what kind of stories they write about, what their interests are outside of their job, send them emails complimenting them on a story they did, etc. in short get them familiar with your name. Send them articles on other stories that were done on scams/Ponzi's from time-to-time. You have to educate them on what a scam/Ponzi is and looks like before you hit them about a story you want them to do.

    The same thing is true with law enforcement. I can tell you for a fact that the UK authorities have had hundreds of people contact them with information to convince them to conduct an investigation of MAP and now TAP; yet nothing has been done. It seems there is zero interest in doing an investigation. Why? Because law enforcement is reactive not proactive. They have to have victims and large monetary loss before they will start an investigation. Now if a family member, relative or close friend gets caught up in one, then they will be proactive immediately. The same is true with politicians. They are like most everyone else who believe the myths surrounding people who get caught up in a scam or Ponzi..i.e. they were uneducated, they were desperate, they were greedy (which is true no matter what your education level is), and they should have known better. After all they couldn't be fooled into joining a scam or Ponzi, so it was their own fault. Remember, cyber-crime is not their only crimes they have to investigate, and now with the added responsibility of terrorism and homeland security they are over worked, over stretched budgets, lack of manpower and resources, and out-spent by the bad guys. It comes down to priorities of which is the most important investigation protecting the public.

    I can't tell you the number of times we were told by law enforcement that action was going to be taken and it didn't happen. Obviously something of a higher importance occurred, but still nothing was done later. It is obvious to us how damaging and life destroying these scams/Ponzi's can be, but the reporters don't know this or understand it like we do. That's why it is our job to educate them so they can understand why it is important to write their story, and why it will be easier for them to pitch their story so their editor will agree and run it.

    As you can see we are dealing with a lot of variables we cannot see or know about that is fighting for their attention just like we are fighting for their attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post

    You have to educate them on what a scam/Ponzi is and looks like before you hit them about a story you want them to do..

    I've never 'hit them with a story I want them to do', they've mostly contacted us through our Facebook pages. Or I get given contacts from various sources that I've ALWAYS followed up, despite contrary public claims from certain members of our community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    I've never 'hit them with a story I want them to do', they've mostly contacted us through our Facebook pages. Or I get given contacts from various sources that I've ALWAYS followed up, despite contrary public claims from certain members of our community.

    Since they contacted you, ask them why they didn't run the story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post

    Since they contacted you, ask them why they didn't run the story.
    I did. They don't reply. And still waiting for the TM story, but you're asking the wrong person on that one.

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    I'm amazed that Tony Booth is still peddling his wares. Or rather, TAP's wares. I note though that people are starting to get, ahem, a bit more threatening in response:-

    TAPs 136 June 17.jpg

    Tony still carries on.....people have to be patient....these things take time, don't you know......

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Why don't the Media get these scams? Why is it so hard to get them to print a story? Despite umpteen blogs and forums like these, they just don't seem to understand how these scams work. The Mirror is the only one who has taken MAP seriously and given it some space. I've had contact with lots of media by email and phone, even a TV station!...waste of time. They never print what they say they will and I'm certainly not the only one to contact them, so why don't they publish?
    The papers love Romance scams, and rightly so, but you need to X that by thousands and you still haven't scratched the surface of the scams we expose here. Millions and millions of dollars gets stolen by these crooks and they mostly get away with it. Or if they do get caught they get pathetic sentences like Chris and Raj did, which, by the way, the Canadian press couldn't be bothered to report about either.
    Oh, Harrison, I do agree! I have contacted various media outlets, politicians, the lot, but no-one wants to do anything. I get some sympathetic replies (occasionally), but no action. As you say, the Daily Mirror is the only mainstream newspaper that has seriously done anything on MAP/TAP; the rest don't want to know. Even Private Eye has no interest, didn't even acknowledge contact. So much for investigative journalism, eh?

    I share your frustration completely.

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    However, all is not lost. Dickie is keeping the faith....

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    And so are other people, although some of them should know better, and should give up online schemes completely given their past experiences (are you listening Mr Pritchard?)

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    I just don't get it myself. People are talking about debt, unemployment and generally losing money in schemes that collapsed before they could cash out.....and yet they are still diddling about with online schemes of one sort or another!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    However, all is not lost. Dickie is keeping the faith....

    TAP 82 July 17.jpg

    And so are other people, although some of them should know better, and should give up online schemes completely given their past experiences (are you listening Mr Pritchard?)

    Tap 83 July 17.jpg TAp 84 July 17.jpg Tap 85 July 17.jpg

    I just don't get it myself. People are talking about debt, unemployment and generally losing money in schemes that collapsed before they could cash out.....and yet they are still diddling about with online schemes of one sort or another!

    It's the same opportunists with zero morals and no shame, that stay on the 'rinse and repeat' cycle over and over again. No sympathy.

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    OK, you get caught by multiple ponzi scams and lose your money

    Soooooooooo, instead of learning from your experience, you change the WAY you play ponzi scams.

    Genius,

    Pure bloody genius
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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