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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Meanwhile, one of the Mappers has posted a screen shot of his UNBELIEVABLE click through rates:-

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    Now, I don't know what CTRs are, or if these are good or bad. But I can see that the majority of his offers are for other Mappy things. So how much value can there be in the advertising? (No need to answer that - I know what the answer is!)
    it means nothing when one is running a scam.

    Click-through rate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The purpose of click-through rates is to measure the ratio of clicks to impressions of an online ad or email marketing campaign. Generally the higher the CTR the more effective the marketing campaign has been at bringing people to a website. Most commercial websites are designed to elicit some sort of action, whether it be to buy a book, read a news article, watch a music video, or search for a flight. People generally don't visit a website with the intention of viewing advertisements, just as people rarely watch TV with the purpose of consuming commercials.[
    and that's exactly what this is.
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    I'm sure we are all very excited and cannot wait to read Simon's new book.

    SS book June 15.jpg SS book 2 June 15.jpg

    And it's going to be available on Amazon, in hardback. He knows this already. Wow! Can't wait! Listed under fantasy fiction?

    Will he cover ALL his past ventures and how he has jumped from one to another? His being mentioned in a UK Parliamentary debate as "the many scams of Simon Stepsys"? His having to give an undertaking to the Office of Fair Trading not to post any more misleading adverts? The part he played in Banners Broker, now that's worth a chapter all on its own.

    And I am sure that the tax man would love to read all about it as well. Not that there is anything to read on that score, of course, because as a reputable trader, Simon is no doubt properly registered as self employed and has paid all the tax due on his and Jule's "earnings" - his in particular as an "internet millionaire".

    I look forward to seeing it published and watching it racing up to the top of the best seller charts.

    One question: why isn't he publishing it as an e-book?

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    Well, there's nothing like optimism....

    Maps 470 June 15.jpg

    However, I will be very surprised if MAPs is even around in two and a half years.

    And dontcha just love it when they say that they have helped people who have been scammed in the past? LMFAO at that one!!
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    The Maps brigade always proclaim that they will be a "billion dollar company" in X number of days/weeks/months/years.

    But it reminds me of a question posed about Banners Broker. If that is the case, that they are a massivley expanding company, then why do they need the affiliates/members? Surely they COST the "company" money? How do they add value to the company, when they are being paid not only their own money back when their credit pack expires, but an extra $10 as well?

    If MAPs is such a great idea, then why is there this need to share it with 150,000 people? Why not keep the idea for yourself (and maybe a few selected investors) and just keep all the money?

    Unless, of course, the members/affiliates ARE the money?

    Have I missed something here?

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    [QUOTE=Della Cate;87239]Well, there's nothing like optimism....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    One question: why isn't he publishing it as an e-book?
    Couldn't possibly be an e-book with what Simon has to offer...

    Better than 95% of the book will be glossy pictures of Simon, his stuff, and pages stinking of perfume. Any remainder will be double spaced motivational tripe with ample room for his note taking apparatchiks.

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    Let's take a look at the last time Simon Stepsys tried to pen something serious in defense his scammer boyfriend and former MAPS #2 Shaun Smith.

    tag team scamming shaun smith and simon stepsys.JPG

    To refresh everyone's memory with pesky facts about Shaun Smith.

    The Mirror said that:

    “…after a nine-week trial [the jury] found [Shaun] Smith, 36… guilty of five fraud charges…“

    UK Biz Opps Blog A Couple of Things That Worry Me About Shaun Smith and YourNetBiz

    BBC News | ENGLAND | Home-working 'swindlers' jailed

    CRUEL CONMEN WHO PLOTTED FRAUD IN JAIL; ]Shocking truth revealed as home-working swindlers jailed. - Free Online Library


    Post release.


    We concluded that the ad was misleading. https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjud...x#.VW8IvkZqCUl

    The ad breached CAP Code (Edition 12) rules 3.1 and 3.3 (Misleading advertising), 3.7 (Substantiation), 3.9 (Qualification), 3.11 (Exaggeration) and 20.4 (Homework schemes).

    Shaun Smith, Bridgnorth, $262,900.31
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    The Truth SPIN Behind The Shaun Smith Scam Issue
    Mar 15, 2010 • By Simon Stepsys

    If you've been on the market looking for an internet marketing coach, you may have already come across with the name of Shaun Smith. Mostly, he is quite a name in the home-based business industry, having quite a popular program for sale.

    However, Shaun Smith is now facing a lot of troubles for apparently being a "scam". Loads of people online are accusing the man of conning others because his program of how to make money online doesn't really work.

    Now, you might be wondering, what is this Shaun Smith scam issue all about really? Well, if you want the whole story, why don't we start at the beginning?

    Shaun Smith has started in the internet marketing business sometime in 2005. He has created a lot of products promising to help people make up to 700 a day with his techniques. And he did manage to help tons of people on the web, until someone started a rumor about him being a fraud.

    What's really terrible about this is that the Shaun Smith scam is founded on wrong bases. You see, internet marketing is a tricky business - it requires hard work and specific skills and techniques to really earn from it. So, if you're not willing to put some effort in it, there's no way you could succeed through it.

    Sure, Shaun Smith may have promised that you can earn 700 a day with the techniques that can be found in his book, but think about it: he can't be held liable if one of his buyers did some screw up in his execution of the technique. There's no way that he could've monitored how his buyer used his tutorial and products, right? So, if that buyer didn't exactly earn from his program, a lot of other factors should also be considered and not just because Shaun Smith is a rip-off artist.

    What's really funny, though, is that a lot of people have put tremendous effort in making the Shaun Smith scam issue a hit. Some even made a whole website with the exact keywords "Shaun Smith scam" in its domain for more hits, and possibly, more earnings through the hits and the traffic the site generates.

    In the end, it would still be your call whether to believe or not in these rumors. But before you fall for it, though, please think about the possibilities that the Shaun Smith scam issue is just a false gossip and something other people use to profit.

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    Some very charming pictures taken today:-

    SS FB 3rd June 15.jpg

    In the top one, where they are waving 50 notes, I think they are chanelling that 1980's comedy character, "Loadsamoney". He was the creation of British comic Harry Enfield, who had, so it is said, seen south London football fans taunting fans from more impoverished areas by waving money at them

    Loadsamoney.jpg

    Loadsamoney had a car too - just like Simon:-

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    I'm just surprised that Simon doesn't make a video of himself, leering into the camera and saying "I've got loadsamoney....got it coming aht me ar*e"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Some very charming pictures taken today:-
    I'm just surprised that Simon doesn't make a video of himself, leering into the camera and saying "I've got loadsamoney....got it coming aht me ar*e"
    This is quite literally what Simon Stepsys does, he waves his wad in his victim's face to entice them into his scams.
    It's funny when Harry Enfield did it..... Simon Stepsys not so much.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    I'm sure we are all very excited and cannot wait to read Simon's new book.

    SS book June 15.jpg SS book 2 June 15.jpg

    And it's going to be available on Amazon, in hardback. He knows this already. Wow! Can't wait! Listed under fantasy fiction?

    Will he cover ALL his past ventures and how he has jumped from one to another? His being mentioned in a UK Parliamentary debate as "the many scams of Simon Stepsys"? His having to give an undertaking to the Office of Fair Trading not to post any more misleading adverts? The part he played in Banners Broker, now that's worth a chapter all on its own.

    And I am sure that the tax man would love to read all about it as well. Not that there is anything to read on that score, of course, because as a reputable trader, Simon is no doubt properly registered as self employed and has paid all the tax due on his and Jule's "earnings" - his in particular as an "internet millionaire".

    I look forward to seeing it published and watching it racing up to the top of the best seller charts.

    One question: why isn't he publishing it as an e-book?
    Interesting how he says he has to get it finished quickly in SIXTY DAYS.
    If I were him, I'd want the book out before MAPS collapses wouldn't you?

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    Another rule breaker using the "I" word. Sure its ok with the SEC as long as you are investing in YOURSELF and not the packs returning 20% over time.

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    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...type=1&theater

    I remember when Jamie Waters couldn't be bothered with free advice since he was a high paid consultant too.

    My time is very valuable, but I still have time to post MAPS nonsense.JPG

    WTF mentoring does one need to click 10 ads? Why would someone work 19 hours per day when clicking takes 5 minutes with Lie Advertising Pays?

    Pretend to work 19 hours per day.JPG
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    It's started. Making changes to the set up.

    And then I am guessing more changes will follow....like 1200 packs suddenly becoming 1500 packs...slow down of payouts.....just guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    I remember when Jamie Waters couldn't be bothered with free advice since he was a high paid consultant too.

    My time is very valuable, but I still have time to post MAPS nonsense.JPG

    WTF mentoring does one need to click 10 ads? Why would someone work 19 hours per day when clicking takes 5 minutes with Lie Advertising Pays?

    Pretend to work 19 hours per day.JPG
    Oh, Ribshaw, let's show the REST of the exchange between the two eager Mappers! Surprised they have not had their postings removed and ended up being banned for being "negative"!

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    These are the admins on SS's new FB group page.

    So we can assume that these are part of Simon's inner circle, can we? But "Jules Davies" and "Julie Davies" are the same person - Simon's partner, in fact. Why has he added her twice, since she is the same person? Looks like she has given up working at Oddfellows Arms. Now she is self employed, I hope she has registered herself with HMRC.

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    And where's Dickie Arblaster these days? I thought he was another sidekick of Simon's. Have they fallen out? I mean, Simon gets a Bentley while Dickie gets an 8 year old Ford (or whatever it is). Maybe there is a bit of an "atmosphere" between them???

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    What I don't understand is Simon knows what he is doing wrong. He must know that he will get busted sooner or later yet he is calling so much attention to himself doing these wrong doings such as the stupid pictures he posts, the book the gatherings etc When he gets busted, won't he have to turn over all his money earned from this including purchases made with the all of the scam money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katra View Post
    What I don't understand is Simon knows what he is doing wrong. He must know that he will get busted sooner or later yet he is calling so much attention to himself doing these wrong doings such as the stupid pictures he posts, the book the gatherings etc When he gets busted, won't he have to turn over all his money earned from this including purchases made with the all of the scam money?
    It always puzzles me, too. Not so much what he does - he does what he does because it's all he knows and he does it because he can IMO -the real puzzle is why he hasn't been stopped yet!

    Trouble is, who is going to stop him? Unless someone who has lost out directly by his actions complains big time, no-one in the UK (at present) seems to have any willpower to stop him. Perhaps people who join schemes like his are too scared to complain in case they cannot join his next venture? After all, he seems to have a regular following, doesn't he? Then there is the question; is what he does a criminal or a civil matter? And in the scheme of things he is probably considered a small player. If it's a civil manner, it is down to the complainant to act. The Police won't in that case - they have other things to attend to.

    As for the money side of it, if he has any sense (and a darn good accountant) he will hide it offshore or register all his assets in someone else's name, so if anyone does come after him, he has very few assets to seize. In any case, despite all his boasting, I'm not sure just how much he actually makes. Enough to live without doing a day job, anyway. I get the impression that MAPs has been his most lucrative scheme so far, because up until recently his partner Julie/Jules was working at the Oddfellows Arms - the pub next door. Now she is declaring herself self employed.

    One can only hope that the tax man goes after the pair of them!

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    Meanwhile, over on the Ss Fb page, someone has spotted something....

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    The Mappers respond......and the solution is GET MORE REFERRALS!

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    They seem to miss the obvious though. My guess is that packs "expire" or "mature" when the people who run this thing want them to. No point running a scheme if you can't manipulate things a bit, is there??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Meanwhile, over on the Ss Fb page, someone has spotted something....

    Maps 475 June 15.jpg

    The Mappers respond......and the solution is GET MORE REFERRALS!

    Maps 476 June 15.jpg Maps 477 June 15.jpg Maps 478 June 15.jpg

    They seem to miss the obvious though. My guess is that packs "expire" or "mature" when the people who run this thing want them to. No point running a scheme if you can't manipulate things a bit, is there??
    it's why it baffles me that no one has ever questioned septic having the eternal 1200 packs all the time while not buying another single one and alleging all this money in earnings. his packs should have been expiring all this time forcing him to buy new ones. but no one sees it.
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    This whole thing is set to expire. We have gone from 2M estimated monthly visits to 1.6M, Simon better get that book to press.


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    It's a funny thing, but the MAPS "Official" FB page, and the MAPS UK FB page are VERY similar. In fact, if I remember rightly, their last two postings on each page were identical. And both made on 29th May, so a few days ago.

    Am I right that the Booths are the admins for both pages? They're not very proactive, are they? For example.......old Simon says that great changes are ahead, but where is the information on this from the Booths? I just get the impression that they aren't very interested in either page.

    But what is point of having two pages when they are almost identical? And considering they say they have 154,000 members, they have very few "likes" - we are talking in the 100's rather than the 1,000's.

    There's a huge disparity between what the membership they claim to have, and what we can actually see in terms of engagement from the membership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Katra View Post
    What I don't understand is Simon knows what he is doing wrong. He must know that he will get busted sooner or later yet he is calling so much attention to himself doing these wrong doings
    I've thought for a long time that there must be a PhD thesis worth in answering that very question,
    what is it that keeps ponzi fraudsters hanging in there way past the time any "normal" person would have cut and run with the money.

    What made PIPS founder Bryan Marsden hanging around in Malaysia until he ran out of money and ended up in a Malaysian jail ???

    Why did Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily infamy get busted with $80 plus million in his personal bank account ???

    What made Zeek Rewards' Paul Burks think he was going to be able to remain in the US after running an $800+million ponzi scam ???

    Maybe they start believing their own publicity and think they are untouchable - who knows ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    I've thought for a long time that there must be a PhD thesis worth in answering that very question,
    what is it that keeps ponzi fraudsters hanging in there way past the time any "normal" person would have cut and run with the money.

    What made PIPS founder Bryan Marsden hanging around in Malaysia until he ran out of money and ended up in a Malaysian jail ???

    Why did Andy Bowdoin of AdSurf Daily infamy get busted with $80 plus million in his personal bank account ???

    What made Zeek Rewards' Paul Burks think he was going to be able to remain in the US after running an $800+million ponzi scam ???

    Maybe they start believing their own publicity and think they are untouchable - who knows ???
    In my experience of life in general, people learn what behaviour they can get away with. If no-one ever stops them, they will keep on doing it and getting away with it.

    I worked somewhere where one member of staff was an absolute horror. This person had been moved round the company for a number of years. Their behaviour was awful; rude, intimidatory, loved to get others in trouble, etc. Quite an efficient worker, though, and practised at ass-kissing the higher ups (needless to say). No-one ever tacked this person or corrected them, and so they just went on and on. I think people were afraid because the bad member of staff's attack, if provoked, was so fierce; and most people (including managers) just didn't want the aggro and hassle. Haven't we all known someone like that?

    I think that people like Stepsys and co are a variation of that. They keep on getting away with it, so they keep on doing it. And yes, I think they do start to believe their own publicity, especially when they surround themselves with people who think they are marvellous. Look how many suck-ups Stepsys has round him, for a start.

    But as you say, there is a PhD thesis in there!

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    Considering that Simon is a sociopath, a narcissist, and a pathological liar explains to me why he keeps doing what he does. He truly believes he is doing nothing wrong. In short, he believes his own BS is the truth.

    If you look at all the top people in MAP's, they all are just like Simon. Birds of a feather syndrome. You will find the same thing in every Ponzi, and remember that the major pimps of MAP's were the same major pimps of BB.

    Personally I can't wait to hear Simon tell his story about his involvement in BB. Now that will be fiction and comedy writing all in one chapter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Katra View Post
    What I don't understand is Simon knows what he is doing wrong. He must know that he will get busted sooner or later yet he is calling so much attention to himself doing these wrong doings such as the stupid pictures he posts, the book the gatherings etc When he gets busted, won't he have to turn over all his money earned from this including purchases made with the all of the scam money?
    Nothing would please me more than to see people like Simon locked up for 20 or 30 years after ill gotten gains have been disgorged. Seldom though are enough funds ever recovered to make victims whole when you couple early payouts with promoters that are spendthrifts wasting money on foolishness. Still, Ponzis are investigated and a boy can hope Simon gets his well deserved turn in the barrel.

    For argument sake, "What the Hell do People Expect?"


    That Simon has 5000 FB friends and teams of adoring numpties says something. If every time a stockbroker called and sold you a stock the company ended up bankrupt, how long before you blocked his number? Most people 1 maybe 2 times unless they were senile. With Simon not only do the companies disappear, they have all been scams. Other than some of the 5000 being fellow thieves one can only speculate what the remainder are thinking.

    Setting aside pure arrogance which is always a possibility, many like Simon appear unable to foresee consequences. Simon has been screwing people for 15 years and other than a few piddling fines what price has he paid? If he recruited 5000 people into MAPS, on average each has ponied up about $2500. If these folks believe someone is going to pay them 20% to click 10 ads, they are pretty gullible. Easy enough to get the same folks convinced their accounts got hacked, or naysayers spreading evil rumors sank a great company. Had Simon hit one or two prominent people in a community for $10,000,000 odds are justice would be dispensed a little differently.


    We have people willing to blindly follow a man that has never right about an opportunity. Believing they will earn outsized returns doing something my goldfish could learn. Then as easily convinced that "insert conspiracy here" was the reason things didn't pan out, again. All this despite a forum like Real Scam with the same story played out 3000 times. "If it's too good to be true, it must be MAPS", after all Simon has some shiny stuff and me like shiny stuff.


    What is law enforcement really left to do if people's foolishness cannot be outlawed?
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    Excellent post, Ribshaw.

    And so true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Excellent post, Ribshaw.

    And so true.
    what did he say? there's a lot of words there and I don't feel like reading. Plus, there's no kitten pic.
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