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    And so it continues.............Temporary issues, of course!

    MAPS 11 Oct 14.jpg

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    You know,

    these people could save themselves a lot of time and effort if they simply posted something like:

    "We all know rebound ponzis never last as long as the collapsed next-big-thing they follow, so, quit your complaining and move on to the next one"
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    Surely there is ONE dedicated law enforcement officer in the UK who could take the time to nab Septic Simon Stepsys while he's in the act.

    This guy must have a judge or politician in his pocket, surely.
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    * Septic Simon Stepsys promoting it.

    * Server problems

    * Script problems

    * Payout delays

    * Falling traffic

    * Banners Broker rebound ponzi

    Anyone who ignores the signs and sends money now might as well rip it up and flush it down the toilet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    * Septic Simon Stepsys promoting it.

    * Server problems

    * Script problems

    * Payout delays

    * Falling traffic

    * Banners Broker rebound ponzi

    Anyone who ignores the signs and sends money now might as well rip it up and flush it down the toilet.
    LRM, I agree. But according to the SS Success group, people are still joining it. And one character boasts (if that is the word) of having put $29,000 into it. The odious Simon is now asking everyone to say what they have earned from it as he is compiling a list of the "top earners". Yes, they might have numbers on a screen, but how many have actually GOT any money from it?

    This is what I always said to defenders of Banners Broker: How much cash is actually on the table in notes you can hold, count and spend? Answer came there none....

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    Clown Prince of scams is at it again. Learned nothing from looking so moronic with Banners Brokers.

    https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...al_comments=12

    "I want to write a post specifically for NEW PEOPLE.....look we all join programs and they are a huge risk truth be told......and when it comes right down to it ONLY the ADMINS (not facebook admins) know what is REALLY going on in a program. We all do our due diligence and we try to confirm the legitimacy of the program, the integrity of the owner and the sustainability of the program. Then we part with our money many times on the word of a GURU or a LEADER......that word is starting to get over-used. When the programs go good a leader is a hero, when they go bad its all their fault for getting us into the program in the first place. The thing to understand here is that MAP has a REAL PRODUCT....MAP pays profit shares, MAP has external revenue and MAP is doing everything possible to meet the growing needs. To date Michael Deese has pretty much delivered everything he promised he would deliver, and despite the current challenges payments are still proceeding. I completely understand how the new members feel as the leaders are full of excitement and they are there parted with some money and are not getting any real results. Please understand that this will be temporary and once they get the re-write done the program will be back up and running shortly. There are many many programs with promises and make money fast. Make no mistake the owner is not only credible but his actions are matching his words. Now, in the past I have been far too trusting and not responsible enough to people such as yourselves these days I am far more selective and I try to avoid "money games". Hopefully you realize you are in this for the long term. Be patient and soon you will be experiencing the same."

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    One of the , er, leading lights of the SS Maps FB Success Group is one Claire Hartman James. Her names and image pop up quite a bit. Anyway, I idly looked her up on her Fb page.

    MAPs, it appears, is not her only venture. She is also in something called "Viral Angels" (not a great name, I keep thinking of viral infections such as 'flu). Helpfully, she has posted a little diagram of one of her ventures. Here it is:-
    Maps CHJ Oct 14.jpg
    Now, doesn't that look AWFULLY like the start of a pyramid scheme? It does to me.

    I'm not very familiar with these things, but if each of the 16 on the bottom row has to get 4 people under them, that means that the next row will need 64 people, doesn't it? Then if each of the 64 needs 4 people, we are up to 256 people....I can see how these things spread, and how those joining later on really have a very small chance of making anything.

    Seems to me the only way to succeed with this it to get in early. I think that's how Stepsys and co make their money; by being early adopters, then bailing out in time to get in early on the next big thing. Once Stepsys starts promoting something else, we'll know that MAPs is on its way out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Once Stepsys starts promoting something else, we'll know that MAPs is on its way out!
    He may have been a little busy in court getting his ass sued over his Banners Broker scam to respond to my newbie question...

    Hi, I was thinking about joining but I heard this program has stopped paying. Can you tell me what this is all about and when payments will resume?

    I know with new companies there are bumps in the road sometimes

    Thanks


    But not too busy to spam my inbox, this must have seen a first draft or something.
    ================================================== =======

    Simon Stepsys via getresponse.com

    Watch the First 54 Seconds, That's All I Ask...

    You'll be hooked after that, I Swear.



    Next...

    Open an account here

    http://www.myadvertisingpaysSimonSte...pals.moneygone

    Be sure SIMON STEPSYS is your sponsor.

    Each minute that you delay it's costing Simon er I mean you money.

    Remember...

    Money Loves Speed

    Money Never Sleeps

    You'll get NOTHING with My-Advertising-Pays

    Want to talk dirty, the earlier in the morning the better! call/text me on UK 07971 88 55 60 (Im here to help you)

    Or complete your details here...

    MAPS is a Ponzi.JPG

    IN Short...

    "It's Impossible NOT To Make Money" If you are willing to lie and screw people over in scams, and do it first.

    This is something you definitely don't want to miss out on. If you were thinking on making a gift to Simon anyway.


    This is the future

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    Keep being awesome

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Now, doesn't that look AWFULLY like the start of a pyramid scheme? It does to me.

    I'm not very familiar with these things, but if each of the 16 on the bottom row has to get 4 people under them, that means that the next row will need 64 people, doesn't it? Then if each of the 64 needs 4 people, we are up to 256 people....I can see how these things spread, and how those joining later on really have a very small chance of making anything.


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    Thanks LRM for the pyramid diagram. So, by level 8, you need 1.679 MILLION people involved!

    Hahahahaha!

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    Maybe "Pays" is the new shorthand for 'pyramid'

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    Over on his MAPs success FB group, the replusive Stepsys has posted this justification for joining MAPs. Please excuse the copy job - it was too long for 1 screenshot (I'm still not very good at them). Veterans of Banners Broker may notice a few similiarities. The bold bits and blue bits are mine:-

    Here's a few reasons

    1. Every Single person Makes Money, in fact its impossible NOT to
    make money.
    This equates to Zero Churn, as who's going to quit then
    their making money. With other businesses generally over 90% quit.

    2. You do have do something each day, click and view just 10 ads per day
    (Seriously this takes around 5 minutes a day) You can also buy holiday periods
    so if for any reason you can't view the ads you will still earn daily profit shares.

    3. Massive expanding market place online advertising is a multi-billion
    a year industry that is insatiable.
    They said that about BB too.

    4. Unlimited earnings potential (I have already created a plan to make
    a million dollar a year business, I have already done this before & this
    is better)

    5. Long term sustainable growth Yup, also said about BB

    6. Top US Attorney on board (Who? Come on, name the person and the firm please! Bit like someone from Goldman Sachs being involved with BB - oh yeah?)

    7. Fast Daily Payouts that are in house ewallet system Same as BB

    8. Great support System (support system in place for US, UK, Australia & the WORLD)
    Yes, they have to put in support tickets, just like BB
    9. Top Worldwide Leaders are already onboard and ready to capitalise on this
    huge global expanding market (me included) And these people are....??

    10. Its free to join, wow, this makes this a total no brainer.

    11. No sponsoring required to earn daily profit shares Didn't have to recruit to BB either.....except you did!

    12. You get real highly targeted traffic to your website. (Majority are buyers that
    are proven to buy over & over again) Same as BB..........yawn, this is getting boring.

    13. Fast set up.

    14. High converting professional lead capture pages

    15. Back office training system

    16. Multiple Ways to earn.

    17. Up to 2% earnings per day (compare that with a bank where you get 0.5% a year = no brainer) I thought these things were not "investments"? Isn't comparing it to a bank a bit risky?

    18. If you do team build & sponsor (which I highly recommend then you earn 10% on purchases
    & repurchases for life.

    19. You earn & get traffic to your website = no brainer, every business wants more traffic &
    when they earn its all a bonus.

    20. Repurchase from Profits Effect (this is absolutely huge & which makes people truly rich) And you could buy traffic packs from your e-wallet in BB too!

    And I bet the founder, one Mike Deese, is someone who is kind to puppies and kittens and just wants to give the little guy a chance as well!
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    (Majority are buyers that
    are proven to buy over & over again)
    And how would they know this?

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    They also said about BB that it was "impossible not to make money".

    Until it went bankrupt, that is.

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    MAPs payment processor seems to be something called "VX Gateway". I think that other payment options are available.

    VX Gateway - any info on this, anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    VX Gateway - any info on this, anyone?
    Just that they apparently aren't paying out any more - if they even did to begin with.

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    Thanks Whip. I've done a bit of digging about VX myself, only 5 minutes, but very instructive.

    Seems they began in September 2012 (about the same time as MAPS, I wonder?). They are based in Panama. They are, or have been, associated with something called "Rocket Cash Cycler" - at least providing payment services to this venture. About 4 entries on their FB page, last one being in May 2013.

    Rocket Cash Cycler? Says it all really. I'm rapidly getting the picture....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Thanks Whip. I've done a bit of digging about VX myself, only 5 minutes, but very instructive.

    Seems they began in September 2012 (about the same time as MAPS, I wonder?). They are based in Panama. They are, or have been, associated with something called "Rocket Cash Cycler" - at least providing payment services to this venture. About 4 entries on their FB page, last one being in May 2013.

    Rocket Cash Cycler? Says it all really. I'm rapidly getting the picture....
    You found more than I did. I was under the impression it was made up just for myadvertisingpyramid like other scams have done.

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    Over on the Ss Maps Group FB page, one of the eager affiliates has posted the following, which includes yet another update from the Maps team, giving the latest excuses......I beg your pardon, explanation.

    Sorry it is in more than one screenshot, but here we go:

    Maps 12 Oct 14.jpg
    Maps 13.jpg
    Maps 14.jpg
    This is my favourite line:-

    How Refreshing in a world of Rip off's and Scams that Dont work - never mind actually care..

    How refreshing will it all be in 12 months time, I wonder???

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    Over on Simon Stepsys's FB page, we have this charming photo of him out on the razzle with some MAPs "leaders".
    Maps 15 Oct 14.jpg

    Front right, in the blue polo shirt.........isn't that Mark Ghobril?

    I understand he was with Simon in court this week - purely as a witness, you understand - so I suppose Simon though he owed him a drink.

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    Gerbil is Septics upline in MAPS. They are thick as thieves.

    MAPS has been weeks without most getting paid. Buying time w/tech issues to restart paying (for a short time) for one last sucker play?

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    So......either there's a lot of cross-pitching going on, OR some MAPs members are already disgruntled......

    MAPs 16 Oct 14.jpg
    Maps 16b Oct 14.jpg

    I love the way all these ventures have un-named "legal teams" attached. Just like Banners Broker did! And we know how that is turning out, don't we?
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    Over on SS's own page, we have this:-

    SS Maps Oct 14.jpg
    No jokes, please, about the sort of virus Simon Stepsys is!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    No jokes, please, about the sort of virus Simon Stepsys is!
    A wallet worm like Simon is nothing to joke about....

    I've already made over 600K with maps (my results not typical for suckers like you, even your fake back office account will never get this high)

    Once you've watched the webinar above join my success team
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    Over on his FB page, the repulsive Simon "The Virus" Stepsys is pushing a Maps event in London on 1st November. Amongst all his woffle, he says the following:-

    MAPS 17 Oct 14.jpg
    Good evidence for Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs, I think. Taxman, if you are watching, take note!

    I mean, if he has been paying CASH for all these things, well, you have to ask where it is all coming from. And if there has not been any suspicion of money laundering. When I went to open a second, small and humble savings account, in a bank of which I was a long standing customer, I still had to prove who I was because of "money laundering regulations". And no bank or building society will let you withdraw large amounts of money in one go without your giving them notice, and proving who you are. So how has he done it? Cash deals maybe? Saved it up in a teapot or under the mattress?

    Of course, this presupposes that he is telling the truth......

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