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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    With My Advertising Pays going belly up, we are left wondering what the MAP stalwarts are going to do next.

    Regular readers will be familiar with the name of Caroline Nettle.






    Septic Simon Stepsys.com



    Caroline Nettles' carolinenettle page on Facebook

    Apparently Ms Nettles' chakras were out of whack and her spirit guides have been on holiday of late.



    Seriously, if I was advertising myself as a source for Angel readings, body talk sessions and provider of spiritual guidance, I'd be r-e-e-e-a-l-ly, r-e-a-l-l-y careful who or what I endorsed.


    For Caroline Nettle, credibility has left the building.
    I've never heard of her before?

    Does she have the nickname "Stinging Nettle", per chance?

    She does now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackTolerance View Post
    I've never heard of her before?

    Does she have the nickname "Stinging Nettle", per chance?

    She does now.
    Shame on you.

    Ms Nettle isn't just an ordinary pimp.

    No, no.

    She's far more important than that.



    Carolyn Nettles' My Advertising Pays Southwest Team page on Facebook



    Carolyn Nettles' Road to Internet Riches blog
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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    With My Advertising Pays going belly up, we are left wondering what the MAP stalwarts are going to do next.

    Regular readers will be familiar with the name of Caroline Nettle.






    Septic Simon Stepsys.com



    Caroline Nettles' carolinenettle page on Facebook

    Apparently Ms Nettles' chakras were out of whack and her spirit guides have been on holiday of late.



    Seriously, if I was advertising myself as a source for Angel readings, body talk sessions and provider of spiritual guidance, I'd be r-e-e-e-a-l-ly, r-e-a-l-l-y careful who or what I endorsed.


    For Caroline Nettle, credibility has left the building.
    Ah come on, LRM, you are far too kind.

    This person thinks she can communicate with angels , for goodness sake!

    Credibility? Don't make me laugh!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Ah come on, LRM, you are far too kind.

    This person thinks she can communicate with angels , for goodness sake!

    Credibility? Don't make me laugh!!
    You couldn't make this shit up it is so ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post
    You couldn't make this shit up it is so ridiculous.
    That Caroline has tried to monetize the angel thing as a qualified "Angel Therpay Practitioner" via Angel Readings, etc
    shows much about her true nature.
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fat City, LA View Post
    qualified "Angel Therapy Practitioner"
    i know those words, but that sentence makes no sense

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    As for where the "qualifying" comes from, goodness (and the angels) only know
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    As for where the "qualifying" comes from, goodness (and the angels) only know
    You'd have thought that the angels would have warned her about MAPs/ TAP, wouldn't you?

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    Meanwhile, there's a question about MAPs/TAP.....

    Taps 22 Jan 17.jpg

    There's doubt about when/if "packs" are transferred over, and as you can see, there's some answers. But I especially like the response to Gary "Thirsty" Strong's comment.....

    Taps 23 Jan 17.jpg

    That's told him, eh??

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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    As for where the "qualifying" comes from, goodness (and the angels) only know
    Besides an extended stay in a mental health care facility?
    "the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"

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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Quote Originally Posted by dondraper View Post
    One of the problems facing Action Fraud is that often the complaint makes no sense to them - it's not a coherent complaint.
    After reading a few on the Facebook group I am inclined to agree. It would be useful for people to have a template to follow, the ones I read are too far in the weeds about purchasing ad packs and back offices.

    I am thinking something along the lines of

    Amount Invested
    Amount Owed
    Names of Top Promoters/Owner
    A very simple explanation of $50 becoming $60 by clicking 10 ads
    Reference the fact that this is the identical scam as Traffic Monsoon/Ad Surf Daily.

    Thoughts?
    "It's virtually impossible to violate rules ... but it's impossible for a violation to go undetected, certainly not for a considerable period of time." Bernie Madoff
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
    After reading a few on the Facebook group I am inclined to agree. It would be useful for people to have a template to follow, the ones I read are too far in the weeds about purchasing ad packs and back offices.

    I am thinking something along the lines of

    Amount Invested
    Amount Owed
    Names of Top Promoters/Owner
    A very simple explanation of $50 becoming $60 by clicking 10 ads
    Reference the fact that this is the identical scam as Traffic Monsoon/Ad Surf Daily.

    Thoughts?
    Agreed. Maybe include something about the reason they joined was the making easy/residual money basis.

    This group is actually making a difference. I would encourage people from here to come and help guide some of these in the best way to speak to the relevant agencies.

    Tara, i have no idea what your issue with me is as you have a point blank refusal to engage with me. You can make a massive difference with this group... you have more knowledge and recorded information about all of the inconsistencies than anyone else I have seen. Your knowledge of the chargeback system is second to none, and your blog is respected. By talking to the members of the group and supporting them directly you will be able to impact their lives pro-actively.

    I sincerely hope that more anti-scam people from here can pitch in with advice and support to get this thing shut down and these fraudsters arrested as early as possible. Jack Mcgrath, Eagle, Scott Russell and myself are doing it, but there's still some scared and naive MAPpers in there that need you all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dondraper View Post
    Agreed. Maybe include something about the reason they joined was the making easy/residual money basis.

    This group is actually making a difference. I would encourage people from here to come and help guide some of these in the best way to speak to the relevant agencies.

    Tara, i have no idea what your issue with me is as you have a point blank refusal to engage with me. You can make a massive difference with this group... you have more knowledge and recorded information about all of the inconsistencies than anyone else I have seen. Your knowledge of the chargeback system is second to none, and your blog is respected. By talking to the members of the group and supporting them directly you will be able to impact their lives pro-actively.

    I sincerely hope that more anti-scam people from here can pitch in with advice and support to get this thing shut down and these fraudsters arrested as early as possible. Jack Mcgrath, Eagle, Scott Russell and myself are doing it, but there's still some scared and naive MAPpers in there that need you all.
    Yep either Tara or the scam page admin blocked the best scambuster I know for no reason Jon walsh and they will not explain why, I have been blocked twice for no reason, (I am on my 3rd fake FB account) just to post on their page (I dont frequent it anymore now) perhaps we are taking away some of the praise, or we are doing more than you to bust this scam and you dont like it..More MAP/TAP incriminating evidence has been posted in this group in one month than the scam page in 3 years. Rant over..Della Cate, are you the map scam page admin? if not can the real admin come forward and explain why the scambusters are being blocked from your page, I dont like being so critical of anything (except scams) but this is really bugging me and deserves an answer.

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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    If anyone is still interested Dannys new opportunities that he is pushing are World Ventures:

    World Ventures Review: Travel niche recruiting scam

    and Digital Altitude

    Digital Altitude Review: Marketing courses + events resurrected

    Certainly not as bad as the standard Rev share scams. But highly dubious no doubt

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    he's a changed man doncha know.........
    Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.

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    All is not well in MAP TAP Paradise.

    Even The "Amazing" Dicky Arblaster cannot sort it out.


    Trouble In MAP TAP Paradise.jpg






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    *Thanks to "bellend" for inviting me into King Rat's Facebook group of which I'm only too familiar by now with what will happen to my membership status, probably by the time I've even finished making this post

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackTolerance View Post
    *Thanks to "bellend" for inviting me into King Rat's Facebook group of which I'm only too familiar by now with what will happen to my membership status, probably by the time I've even finished making this post

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    Quote Originally Posted by bellend View Post
    perhaps we are taking away some of the praise, or we are doing more than you to bust this scam and you dont like it..
    Is there some odd reason that you seem to want to make "scambusting" into a pissing contest?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellend View Post
    More MAP/TAP incriminating evidence has been posted in this group in one month than the scam page in 3 years.
    Such as??

    I"m not into creating fake FB accounts and don't post to antiscam groups there, so I'm just really curious as to all this incredible evidence you keep referencing.

    From what I've seen and experienced in over a decade of posting against scams(off and on), once authorities get around to going after these scams, they don't need to be rocket scientists to piece it all together.

    This whole ego trip about doing more to "bust" a scam than someone else is a relatively new angle to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfer View Post
    From what I've seen and experienced in over a decade of posting against scams(off and on), once authorities get around to going after these scams, they don't need to be rocket scientists to piece it all together.
    And that is the bottom line.

    Unless, or until, the authorities become involved, all that can be done is to keep victims and / or potential victims informed, so they can make their own judgement.

    Thus:



    In my experience, a concentrated campaign of daily complaints to the SEC / Action Fraud etc would be far more productive than all the evidence gathering / Facebook complaints / pissing contests will ever do.

    This isn't TV.

    Things don't happen in 45 minutes, plus advertisement times.

    Government agencies don't act immediately, neither does Paypal and neither of them EVER reveal anything about ongoing investigations, until after the event

    But, they DO investigate, based on the number of complaints they receive.

    They have to, it's enshrined in law.

    Check out the AdSurf Daily, Telexfree / Zeek Rewards cases and you'll see just how long, how far reaching and how in depth the investigations took before prosecution eventuated.

    In 2014, the TelexFree scam was busted and TelexFree mastermind Carlos Wanzeler fled the USA for Brazil, yet, just this month, Wanzelers' nephew was caught attempting to launder $20million and transport it to Brazil.

    It turns out Homeland Security and US authorities were watching and had been co operating with Brazilian authorities since early 2015.

    Similarly with the AdSurf Daily and Zeek prosecutions.

    It was revealed in court the SEC / FBI / Homeland Security had been gathering evidence for two years before they acted.

    They had everything.

    Transcripts, videos, captured web pages, victim interviews, bank details, including every transaction, account numbers and balances, the lot

    AND, they revealed the triggers for their investigations were complaints from the public and Suspicious Activity Reports from financial institutions, such as Paypal and US banks.

    Report, report, report and then report some more.

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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Quote Originally Posted by bellend View Post
    Yep either Tara or the scam page admin blocked the best scambuster I know for no reason Jon walsh and they will not explain why, I have been blocked twice for no reason, (I am on my 3rd fake FB account) just to post on their page (I dont frequent it anymore now) perhaps we are taking away some of the praise, or we are doing more than you to bust this scam and you dont like it..More MAP/TAP incriminating evidence has been posted in this group in one month than the scam page in 3 years. Rant over..Della Cate, are you the map scam page admin? if not can the real admin come forward and explain why the scambusters are being blocked from your page, I dont like being so critical of anything (except scams) but this is really bugging me and deserves an answer.
    Bellend, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about? We haven't banned you? You say the same words as David Bell who has contributed much to our page for many months. Your Avatar changed from a man in glasses to a 'lovely' looking dog? So I'll hazard a guess you are the same poster? Correct me if I'm wrong?

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    Why you have suddenly turned against us on the MAPS UNITED FB page is a mystery Bellend/David Bell, but if you could please tell us which fake profiles of yours we were supposed to have blocked, I am very happy to investigate.
    As for Mr. Draper being the' best scambuster' in our community, you are certainly not the first person to tell us this.
    Many have messaged us saying the exact same thing.
    I am absolutely sure Mr. Draper has contributed much to our cause. He has Advertising contacts. He has Media contacts.
    He deserves credit for getting articles in newspapers - with more articles to come.
    And he now has his own FB page to post on. Great! Honestly! Not everybody likes us, that's cool. You can't please everybody.

    Mr. D. We all have different ways of doing things, different prospectives and different motives. You scambust the way you want to, we'll do it the way we want to. But please, just get quietly on with it.
    Just like the rest of us do...
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    It's okay for some.

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    I was working on the assumption that we all have the same perspective; these rev shares are Ponzi's and should be closed with the relevant people being tried for their crimes.

    I was working with the motive that we all; were wanting to be of good to our wider community.

    I believe that a collective working together can make our ambitions happen faster than us working separately - the sum of our parts and all that. By working separately, we are unable to truly join up our individual knowledge.

    My media contacts would benefit by speaking with you Tara when an article is being put together.

    Your banning me from the ability to post, comment, and engage on the Facebook scam page is a hindrance to the closure of this MAP/TAP BS.

    My request to you is to drop the drawbridge and let's work together. I don't believe this is unreasonable.

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    I'm confused about the recent posts as they don't seem to make any sense.

    Can a "third-party only" please explain?
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    Re: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    ... <snip> ... We all have different ways of doing things, different prospectives and different motives. You scambust the way you want to, we'll do it the way we want to. But please, just get quietly on with it ... <snip> ...
    "Five star statement"

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    The SCAM-exposing's small community has historically been one where shared information and mutual support has benefited everybody.
    There's no benefit in contention between the generous people who donate their time trying to accomplish some good.

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