Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Good evening Rockstars.

Thanks to all who responded to me. After talking to my sponsor and considering everything that you guys have said, I have decided to call it a day with MAPs. There are simply too many questionable aspects of this "business" to continue. I was 99% of the way there and just needed a little push in the right direction, and that's what you good people have done. So thanks and keep up the good work.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Nerd, I don't have internet access right now, can you do me one more favor and provide the contact information from the website. I think they are registered in Angola, Abkhzia, Andorra or something like that.

Also can you tell me when you wired funds specifically where they were wired, as in the title of the account. Then when you made your withdrawal where the funds were wired to you from. TIA

The contact info on the MAPs website reads:

MyAdvertisingPays (MAP) Limited
201 Rogers Office Building
Edwin Wallace Rey Drive
George Hill, Anguilla

The letter from the bank I got regarding the wire transfer says the money came from:

VX Gateway INC
50 Global Plaza Tower 19-H
Panama

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Now, here's a posting from one of our dear friends, Frank Calabro Jnr:-

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If you look carefully at his list of adverts (there are a few more not in the screenshot, but thay are all the same type) you will see that they are all about MAPS.

I always wondered about these adverts. What are you supposed to advertise? Window cleaning? Diet pills? Your local shop? But now I see it. You go in MAPS and advertise MAPS spinoff products to other MAPS members in a closed loop!

What a winner! It's even more of a closed shop than I thought.

one of the screenshots here was basically talkgold or mmg in a block form instead or forum form. it was all scams.

Originally Posted by nerd

Good evening Rockstars.

Thanks to all who responded to me. After talking to my sponsor and considering everything that you guys have said, I have decided to call it a day with MAPs. There are simply too many questionable aspects of this "business" to continue. I was 99% of the way there and just needed a little push in the right direction, and that's what you good people have done. So thanks and keep up the good work.





The contact info on the MAPs website reads:

MyAdvertisingPays (MAP) Limited
201 Rogers Office Building
Edwin Wallace Rey Drive
George Hill, Anguilla

The letter from the bank I got regarding the wire transfer says the money came from:

VX Gateway INC
50 Global Plaza Tower 19-H
Panama

good to hear. Hope you can get the rest of your money out.

Originally Posted by nerd

Good evening Rockstars.

Thanks to all who responded to me. After talking to my sponsor and considering everything that you guys have said, I have decided to call it a day with MAPs. There are simply too many questionable aspects of this "business" to continue. I was 99% of the way there and just needed a little push in the right direction, and that's what you good people have done. So thanks and keep up the good work.





The contact info on the MAPs website reads:

MyAdvertisingPays (MAP) Limited
201 Rogers Office Building
Edwin Wallace Rey Drive
George Hill, Anguilla

The letter from the bank I got regarding the wire transfer says the money came from:

VX Gateway INC
50 Global Plaza Tower 19-H
Panama

Thanks for that, hope you stick around and fill in some details for the others that may be on the fence.

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Originally Posted by jennyp123

Oh dear...

This has now been removed from the group...

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I may be remembering this wrong, but didn't something similar happen with Banners Broker where the earnings stopped on the weekends? I know it never stopped during the sever upgrades.

Id like to know how much people have got out of maps in comparasion to what theyve put in percentage wise. Most screen shots i see its not very much, plenty of repurchasing going off with 'earnings'

Originally Posted by nerd

Good evening Rockstars.

A term of endearment probably best left within the MAPS group where it belongs, alongside the rest of their idiosyncrasies.

Originally Posted by jennyp123

A term of endearment probably best left within the MAPS group where it belongs, alongside the rest of their idiosyncrasies.

In that case I was most definitely trolling. OMG! WOW!

Originally Posted by wayne1983

Id like to know how much people have got out of maps in comparasion to what theyve put in percentage wise. Most screen shots i see its not very much, plenty of repurchasing going off with 'earnings'

It has to be high initially.

Put in $50, get out $60 no problem. Put in $500, get out $600 no questions. Even putting in $50,000 and getting out $60,00 has to be seemless at the onset. Then the hook is set, and rolling profits seems like the only sensible thing to do. Some of that is the gambling mentality at work. If someone takes $100 to the casino and wins $20 are they going to quit and scarf down mashed taters at the buffet all night? I know I wouldn't. So thousands of people put in a few hundred bucks looking to bring down the house.

One interesting note about earnings is the seeming lie Shaun Smith got caught in with the Zeek receiver. Smith claimed to have scammed $1,000,000 in Zeek, but the receiver is only going after $250,000 that we are aware of. Smith of course is in MAPS with similar lofty claims, as is Stepsys who alleges he stole over $1,000,000 but how does anyone know? Neither of these two is known for truth telling or rolling their stealings.

At this point when people are claiming six figure accounts and have doubled their money in sixty days a bank run could happen at any time. As soon as new recruits dry up, system problems will ramp up.

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Originally Posted by Gina

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nerd: Glad to see that we were able to be of help to you in your decision. It is why all of us who post here exposing these Ponzi's do what we do. As others have said, I hope you stay and share your experiences with others.

I am curious as to what your sponsor had to say about the things said about MAPS here if you are willing to share.

Nerd...you can call me a "Rockstar" any day. (It's always been a bit of a fantasy of mine. After all, I did play french horn and cello AND was in high school marching band! UBER nerd alert!!)

All joking aside though, I'm glad you took these good people's advice to heart, and thank you for letting us know, and I hope you stick around!:)

Originally Posted by EagleOne

nerd: Glad to see that we were able to be of help to you in your decision. It is why all of us who post here exposing these Ponzi's do what we do. As others have said, I hope you stay and share your experiences with others.

I am curious as to what your sponsor had to say about the things said about MAPS here if you are willing to share.

I have been in the thick of it for about 6 months now, so I could answer any questions regarding how MAPs operates. I did notice while reading through some of the posts that some of things people were saying were not 100% correct.

My sponsor did come and read the posts here and contacted me on facebook. He choose not to address you all here so i will respect that and not share what he said. I will say that he did make some interesting points, but it didnt stand up to my own observations, my gut feeling and what you guys have said. I dont think he is scammer and he does genuinely believe that MAPs can succeed as a legitimate business. Only time will tell on that one.

After all if MAPS is the next google/facebook and has a 15 year game plan like the leaders say, I can always come back to it after a few years and there will still be plenty of money to be made. I think for now my efforts are better spent on my other business.

This may have been mentioned earlier but it is something that has always bugged me. If you read the advertising policy on the site is says:

The following third party advertisements for placement throughout the Companies network are hereby
expressly prohibited;

• High Yield Investment Program’s or any other illegal investment schemes as defined by United States law.
• Illegal Pyramid Schemes as defined by United States law.
• Material Drugs and Drug Paraphernalia
• Discriminatory Practices
• Hate / Violence Sites
• Pharmaceutical Sales
• Illegal Downloads/Warez
• Pornography or Sexually Themed Sites
• Gambling
• Scams of any sort

Whether or not MAPs is a pyramid scheme is up for debate, but it is undeniably an HYIP. Depending on how the credit packs pay out you can expect to receive up to 50% or more return on your investment per year. Where in the real world are you going to find a return like this? Not to mention all the other highly questionable ads all over the site.

In other news for the last few weeks I have been exploiting a glitch in the site that allows you to avoid viewing all the 30 second long Ads and halves your time on the site. Looks like the elite programmers arent as elite as I thought.

There's a very good reason prosecutors don't charge the fraudsters behind these things with running a pyramid scheme or a ponzi scheme.

Instead, the charges resulting from the closure of the last "next big things" have been: wire and mail fraud conspiracy, wire and mail fraud, and tax fraud conspiracy in the case of Zeek Rewards, five counts of wire fraud, one count of securities fraud and one count of unlawful sale of unregistered securities in the case of AdSurf Dailys' Andy Bowden and conspiracy to commit wire fraud in the cases against two of the owners of TelexFree

Fraud is fraud - call it ponzi, HYIP, pyramid or a combination of them all

Fraudsters lie,

the only safe way to approach any of them is to believe nothing.

Strange as it may seem, the paragraph you pointed out will actually work in the fraudsters' favour with some victims

The following third party advertisements for placement throughout the Companies network are hereby
expressly prohibited;

• High Yield Investment Program’s or any other illegal investment schemes as defined by United States law.

There have been any number of victims who see that paragraph and take it as some sort of proof of legitimacy,

as in: "If MAP was a HYIP, why would they include a statement banning HYIPs"

Hang around, you'll soon see the patterns and be able to spot the clues

nerd: Not a problem about not revealing what you sponsor said, but I am pretty sure I was pretty close to my prediction. What I am really interested in knowing is who is the sponsor for your sponsor? That is far more telling to me than what your sponsor had to say.

A few of the quality ads you can click with MAPS. Business in a box selling the same thing as everyone else, and a guy with 80 visitors a day to his site who is going to train you to be a marketing genius or something. There are some interesting comments at the bottom of the reviews, still not crazy about the review this but sell that model of blogging.

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Originally Posted by nerd

Whether or not MAPs is a pyramid scheme is up for debate, but it is undeniably an HYIP. Depending on how the credit packs pay out you can expect to receive up to 50% or more return on your investment per year. Where in the real world are you going to find a return like this? Not to mention all the other highly questionable ads all over the site.

There appears to be little business being generated by advertisers that are not in the system, or as you say peddling questionable stuff like lead generation and other pyramidish schemes like this matrix and $5fun. SCAM is a safe catchall.

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People like Richard Walletblaster can call MAPS whatever they want or avoid using words like investment, interest, or security but that is not how the law works. Unlicensed people marketing unregistered securities equals doom.

Originally Posted by nerd

In other news for the last few weeks I have been exploiting a glitch in the site that allows you to avoid viewing all the 30 second long Ads and halves your time on the site. Looks like the elite programmers arent as elite as I thought.

This is an interesting glitch that would concern me if I was an investor or advertiser. As an advertiser I certainly would want to have checks in place to know I was getting what I paid for. That no advertiser has noticed this and had the window closed is puzzling.

Equally puzzling is how MAPS could not know and still allocate "profit share" without people doing what they are supposed to be doing. Surely you are not the only one who found this work around.

With Banners Broker numpties were told that some evil affiliates had found a way to withdrawal more than they had actually earned and stole millions.

Our Tony and Lynne are off to the USA for FIVE weeks to "sort out" things with Mike Deese.

Whatever can they mean? Sort out what exactly, and why are they doing it?

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Meanwhile FB took down one MAPs group, but it has returned:-

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Good Ol' Sandy's been shopping....

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Ingersoll.

Hmmmm.

Hardly the brand of 'RockStars' though, is it?


You can buy em on ebay for thruppence.

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you could......or you could just walk into a store and take a picture of one.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

This is an interesting glitch that would concern me if I was an investor or advertiser. As an advertiser I certainly would want to have checks in place to know I was getting what I paid for. That no advertiser has noticed this and had the window closed is puzzling.

Equally puzzling is how MAPS could not know and still allocate "profit share" without people doing what they are supposed to be doing. Surely you are not the only one who found this work around.

This was another red flag for me as you dont have to be a rocket surgeon to make use of the glitch. They must be aware of it but they just don't seem to care.

Originally Posted by nerd

This was another red flag for me as you dont have to be a rocket surgeon to make use of the glitch. They must be aware of it but they just don't seem to care.

Of course they don't care,

it makes no difference,

clicking doesn't mean a thing

There IS no advertising and there ARE no outside advertisers

There's a program and scripts running that make people think they are doing something and think their clicks are being monitored and think they are earning phenomenal amounts for what they are doing.

But, none of it is "real"

It's no different than Zeek Rewards

Originally Posted by SEC complaint

5. Approximately 98% ofZeekRewards' total revenues, and correspondingly the purported share of "net profits" paid to current investors, are
comprised of funds received from new investors.

all that talk of "clicking on ads" and "daily profit share" and purchasing "bid packs" was all B/S

Originally Posted by SEC COMPLAINT

Almost none of the VIP Bids given away by Qualified investors are actually used on the Zeekler penny auction website.

Of approximately 10 billion VIP Bids purchased by or awarded to investors, less than one-quarter of one percent have been actually used in auctions on the Zeekler penny auction website.

MAP is no different.

Oh dear...

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Oh, look.

First the Booths are going off the radar for 5 weeksn, and now Slimy Simon is doing the same. Pure coincidence, I have no doubt.

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Of course, if I was a nasty, suspicious person, I might think there is a reason behind all this sudden movement by people who are so, so well dug into MAPs. Someone might even ask the question as to where they are going and why, with whom and for what true purpose. But as I am a nice, innocent person I don't think it and don't say it.