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    Mark Ghobrils' mghobril page on Facebook
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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    Mark Ghobrils' mghobril page on Facebook
    Yes, well, he's a long time chum of Stepsys, isn't he? Birds of a feather flock together, as the old saying goes.

    But there's more! Mark "The Gerbil" Ghobril has noiw gone all new-agey and is selling......coffee. I don't know if he is in it, but he seems to like and be associated with something called Alphay International which appears to be an MLM originating in China.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Christopher Terry the top man in IML?

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    Ah, Martin Codack....that brings back memories

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Christopher Terry the top man in IML?
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    [QUOTE=littleroundman;84102][/QUOTE

    Yup, I'm right, he was.

    Isn't it funny how the same old faces keep coming up time and time again? There must be a hard core of people who just scuttle from one thing to another.

    I'll give them one thing; they've more energy than me. All those emails and websites and posting of motivational pictures and fantasising that you are running a BIZNESS.

    I just couldn't be ars*d.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HARRISON View Post
    Ah, Martin Codack....that brings back memories

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    Ah, so charming!

    Remind me again, what happened to Banners Broker hmmmmm?? And I suspect that MAPs will go the same way.

    Not today, not tomorrow maybe, but it will go. Once all those pretendy millionaires start wanting to cash in their "earnings", that's going to be a big problem (as someone here has already said!)

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    Over on the MAPS Scam FB page, there is this interesting piece from Jets Fitifa:-

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    Haven't we heard this sort of thing before? Banners Broker and its "legal documents", its proof of identity (uploading copies of your passport etc!) and its "top legal team" that was supposedly going after the haters?

    The Scam page admins have written this very good reply:-

    Maps 343 Mar 15.jpg Maps 344 Mar 15.jpg

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    The Booths cleared off to the USA over a week ago. It's two weeks since they posted anything on the "MAPS Uk Team" FB page - and that was just to say they were off to the USA because they had things to sort with Mike Deese; and that they would not be back for 5 weeks.

    Now, since they were "sorting out" things, I have been expecting Stepsys's Maps group FB page to be positively FLOODED with announcements about how WELL the Booths have been doing. I have been waiting daily, nay hourly, for news of new exciting additions to the MAPs "product", so that all the members could benefit. I mean, now the thrill of the Jackpot Wheel has worn off (mainly because no bug*er is advertising on it), they need to do something to keep the muppets happy. Don't they?

    But has there been anything? No. Nothing. Not even a holiday postcard. Jennyp123 did post some photos here, of them all in a car park after a night out at a pool hall, but I haven't seen A THING on either the Booth's page or Stepsys's page.

    So, what have they all been doing out there? Apart from going to pool halls?

    And why is it taking them 5 weeks to do it?

    In the age of Skype and video conferencing, and even the good old telephone, why do they even need to be there at all? Surely things could be sorted without having to have a face-to-face meeting?

    Odd, isn't it?

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    I too would like to take a whack at Jet's nonsense, but only for people who truly want to minimize the chance of being scammed in this or any other venture.

    PONZI- A scam where money from new investors pays older investors, giving the illusion of a return.
    PYRAMID- A scam with unlimited recruiting of new members with little or no RETAIL sales outside the network.

    My Advertising Pays is a combination of both of these and the comments of members prove it. People have said I have nothing to advertise and/or there are not enough ads for me to click. Members are not being brought in to sell advertising to corporations, they are brought in to BUY, as in they are the product.

    Second, no corporation that seriously wants to advertise will go this route. If one googles protein bars, or hammers, or toy trains, ads will appear for these very items. MAPs is not even in this century as far as internet ads go, Fortune 1000, no chance.

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    One quick thing from Serial Scammer Simon Stepsys:

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    Advertising returns like this is ILLEGAL as in it is a security violation illegal. Not calling it an "investment" does not change the law any more than opening up a brothel and calling it a massage parlor. If a top attorney was retained he would shut **** like this down, not have the top dog putting it on the web for all to see.

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    Here is where the rubber meets the road and it doesn't matter the business situation. Be it someone managing your money, doing real estate deals, or fakeo ad packs...

    SoD is a basic internal control that attempts to ensure no single individual has the authority to execute two or more conflicting sensitive transactions with the potential to impact financial
    statements.

    http://www.ey.com/Publication/vwLUAssets/EY_Segregation_of_duties/$FILE/EY_Segregation_of_duties.pdf


    Effective oversight

    http://www.chubb.com/businesses/csi/chubb5305.pdf

    MAPS violates this basic internal control to prevent fraud. As did Zeek, Banners Broker, Madoff, Stanford, Rothstien, Profitable Sunrise, and Charles Ponzi himself. In fact every scam of this nature violates it. To scam someone they have to send you their money. Then you have to control the reporting, and any withdrawals. This is EXACTLY what everyone in MAPS has done, send money over VX Gateway to hell knows where.

    This arrangement opens MAPS itself up to all sorts of internal theft ala MT.GOX. What stops an employee from dipping and dashing? Of course it is all one big scam, but how will any MAPPER prove it when Deese claims he was "hacked?" Where is the external auditor? Why are funds not being held in major banks that affiliates have access to? Why three mail drops in as many countries?

    That my lil MAPPERS is why you can't listen to idiots like Jets Filtha, much less trust your money to his words. It has nothing to do with puffery and happy talk, and everything to do with established time tested methods to deter fraud.
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    How can an advertiser get 20% return if most advertisements are members clicking each other ads and not clicking through.

    That's the biggest flaw with MAPS and no one there seems to realize it.

    It's crazy how grown ups can't even use logic, and some of these people probably have important jobs that require intelligence. Yet they got caught up in this scam still believing it's gonna pay off.

    What he says isn't false, you will make money. Just no more than a few bucks a day / week while you spend 10x, 100x your ROI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caner View Post
    How can an advertiser get 20% return if most advertisements are members clicking each other ads and not clicking through.

    That's the biggest flaw with MAPS and no one there seems to realize it.

    It's crazy how grown ups can't even use logic, and some of these people probably have important jobs that require intelligence. Yet they got caught up in this scam still believing it's gonna pay off.

    What he says isn't false, you will make money. Just no more than a few bucks a day / week while you spend 10x, 100x your ROI.
    I have noticed that a fair proportion of the new recruits - those who are "welcomed" on Stepsys's group page - are ALREADY in some sort of venture. It may be UFUN, it may be "Body by Vi"; they may claim to be the CEO of some tinpot company that they invented themselves, but whatever it is, quite a lot already have form. Not all, true, for some this may be their very first venture. And of course some are serial joiners, all hoping that the next big thing is going to pay off. Then there's those who cynically join knowing full well what is going on, but hoping to get some money out of it before the collapse.

    You are quite right about the lack of logic displayed. I think that people get caught up in the idea that they can make easy money, especially when the gamble appears to be paying off and the numbers on the screen keep increasing. It's been said many times that all these schemes pay out at the start as that's how they pull people in.

    That's what keeps them all coming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Jennyp123 did post some photos here, of them all in a car park after a night out at a pool hall, but I haven't seen A THING on either the Booth's page or Stepsys's page.

    So, what have they all been doing out there?
    They went to a Rock concert.

    MegaTurd or something the band was called.

    (or was it Highway49 or wtfever Deese's band was called)

    May that's it - maybe they're forming a new band!!!!

    Lmao!

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    WOW!

    Just....WOW!

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    I'm impressed.

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    Gosh. No sooner do I write here that I wonder what the Booths are doing than news just pops up on SS's page....

    Well, maybe not news, exactly, but encouragement to HAVE FAITH! The TOP LEADERS are working in the background! Just like dear old Chris Smith was working hard for Banners Broker.....until it went bankrupt and took everyone's money with it.

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    And there's more. The new search facility is AWESOME! I know it is because Richard Mead says so. Even though I can only see one advert - the same advert, for MAPS products - on the screen. But then I am dream stealer, so what do I know?

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    Here's another shot of the traffic exchange with new search facility.

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    Blimey, what a load of cr*ppy adverts! They have to view 10 of these a day? The majority are for other rubbish schemes - as people have already said, I know; but I didn't realise just how cr*ppy they were

    Where's the value in that? THERE IS NONE.

    If people think that this is a REAL programme with valuable adverts, they are even dimmer than I thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate
    They have to view 10 of these a day?
    Nah, they don't have to "view" anything,

    all they have to do is click through the site, or create a bot that will do it for them, download any one of the squillion bots already created to complete such tasks, pay their six year old child with Happy Meals to do it for them or click on the links while they read a book or floss their teeth.

    Which is precisely why no legitimate advertisers use traffic exchanges or HYIP ponzi fraud based "advertisers" ESPECIALLY those which claim to be paying anything more than fractions of a cent per click

    TV advertising affects peoples' minds and therefore buying preferences, , whether or not they are consciously watching the ad, that's why it costs what it does.

    Clicking on ads doesn't even do that, it can be (and is) done with your eyes closed
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Nah, they don't have to "view" anything,

    all they have to do is click through the site, or create a bot that will do it for them, download any one of the squillion bots already created to complete such tasks, pay their six year old child with Happy Meals to do it for them or click on the links while they read a book or floss their teeth.

    Or you can just click the back button and view the same 10 second Ad 10 times.

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    This makes a good point. I dont think that MAPS is legit because it hasnt been shut down yet. I understand that it is difficult to prove that anything on the internet is a scam 100%, but one of the things that made me get my credit card out initially was the fact that when i came here it seemed to be mostly people engaging in petty trolling of walletblaster and the like, and when i went to the pro maps FB groups it was all about people helping each other build there "business".

    Is there nothing more constructive we could do to get MAPS shut down?

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    I wonder if recruitment is slowing down? There seems to me to be an air of desperation about the following:-

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    Interesting to see the list of those with the magical 1200 credit packs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post
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    This makes a good point. I dont think that MAPS is legit because it hasnt been shut down yet. I understand that it is difficult to prove that anything on the internet is a scam 100%, but one of the things that made me get my credit card out initially was the fact that when i came here it seemed to be mostly people engaging in petty trolling of walletblaster and the like, and when i went to the pro maps FB groups it was all about people helping each other build there "business".

    Is there nothing more constructive we could do to get MAPS shut down?
    Nerd, I understand what you are saying. And yes, you make a fair point.

    I think back to Banners Broker. There were critical articles in the Irish press (to its credit, the Irish press was the only one to write about BB, apart from a small article in the Uk Daily Mirror), LOTS of stuff on the internet; people were also reporting it in various places (the press, Action Fraud, tv shows like BBC's "Watchdog" etc), but it still took YEARS before any authority took any action. I seem to recall it was only after a former member and big wheel in BB sued for money he said it owed him that receivers were brought in and things went on from there. No-one else was interested. Even now, only the Irish Examiner (to the best of my knowledge) has reported on the BB bankruptcy case.

    People ARE trying to draw attention to MAPS in various quarters, but it is very, very hard to get any organisation with power to take action. Evidence gathering takes a long time. The membership is still relatively small, and a proportion of those people who joined will have given up or lost interest. Some have probably managed to get their money back and walked away. And of course MAPS is still going, and probably is paying out to those few who request money. The big push, as we have seen in this thread, is to (a) recruit and (b) keep people in by encouraging them not to withdraw while they work towards the magic 1200 cp figure. I would guess that so far relatively few people are adversely affected. That will only happen when payments start to be refused. When that day comes, and if a lot of people are affected, the authorities might sit up and take notice...........or they may not. I suspect MAPS will probably collapse of its own accord before then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post


    This makes a good point. I dont think that MAPS is legit because it hasnt been shut down yet. I understand that it is difficult to prove that anything on the internet is a scam 100%, but one of the things that made me get my credit card out initially was the fact that when i came here it seemed to be mostly people engaging in petty trolling of walletblaster and the like, and when i went to the pro maps FB groups it was all about people helping each other build there "business".

    Is there nothing more constructive we could do to get MAPS shut down?
    It's called "reality"

    The reality that MAP is only one of several thousand HYIP ponzi frauds on the "usual suspect" HYIP ponzi forums.

    The reality that MAP is a smalltime, pissant ponzi.

    The reality that Banners Broker and Telexfree and Zeek Rewards all lasted over two years and, even after that length of time, over 90% of their participants ended up losing money

    Last years big one, Telexfree, took in over 1 billion dollars, the # 2 big one, Zeek Rewards, took in over $850 million.

    Don't confuse a website, Facebook group and a whole pile of HYIP pimps with MAP being a large fraud

    It's no accident MAP is largely based in the UK. Britain is notoriously slow to react to the presence of such schemes

    Given the speed and ferocity with which the small time 3 or 4 million dollar ponzi Achieve Community was closed down in the US recently, it wasn't a bad move on MAPs behalf to stay as far away from the US as is possible.

    I can understand people becoming annoyed at the MAP people flashing the cash, boasting about how much money they are making and rubbing it in peoples' faces about how they have missed out.

    BUT

    It's all bullsh**

    You're being lied to, you are seeing fake documents and backoffice account balances NOT money in peoples' pockets

    Take a million dollar MAP account and fifty cents to your local Starbucks and you STILL wouldn't have enough for a coffee.

    90% of all HYIP ponzi participants lose their money

    Why don't we spend our time more "constructively" as you put it ??

    Simple - it's a ponzi - it's going to collapse costing over 90% of its' members their money, and we don't have to lift a finger.

    We can't and never said we could "save the world" every single person who saves their money because of something he or she read here is a bonus.

    This ain't TV.

    If it were, MAP would start, flourish and be shut down in 45 minutes plus ad breaks

    Unfortunately, that ain't the way it works.

    Believe me, it WILL collapse and the people rubbing your face in it will soon be nothing more than bad memories
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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post
    This makes a good point. I dont think that MAPS is legit because it hasnt been shut down yet. I understand that it is difficult to prove that anything on the internet is a scam 100%,

    Is there nothing more constructive we could do to get MAPS shut down?
    It is a bit like asking can't something be done about all the idiot drivers on the highway. There are thousands of these scams at any one time. Who is going to do anything, the government of Panama where suckers are willingly wiring money? St. Scamistan where a mail drop is all MAPS has to show for its corporation. Pretty sure banking secrecy is a big source of revenue for a handful of lil island nations.

    This is also only ONE type of scam on the web there are romance scams, 419 scams, blackmail, ransomware, job scams, lottery scams, puppy scams, check cashing scams, money mules, property mules, just to name a few. Then there are serious crimes like hacking, human trafficking, child pornography, and that whole recruiting terrorists for a caliphate thingy.

    Given that list, if people believe they are going to earn 20% clicking 10 ads then **** them, they're too stupid to have money and someone will take it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post
    but one of the things that made me get my credit card out initially was the fact that when i came here it seemed to be mostly people engaging in petty trolling of walletblaster and the like, and when i went to the pro maps FB groups it was all about people helping each other build there "business".
    If it wasn't for "trolling", this would be one boring pursuit and the thread would be 1 page. Walletblaster is a criminal and a broke one at that, WTF type of business is he going to help anyone build? One where they have to ride the bus and share a boarding house toilet? It is a subtle juxtaposition, but someone paying attention should see the inconsistencies in Simon Stepsys's claims of massive income with Walletblaster's living arrangements.

    As for "helping people build their business", I think you overestimate the motive of a good chunk of these people. Recruiting scams are a bit like a poker table, there are one or two patsies that will provide most of the cash. The rest of the table is just passing money back and forth while the house takes a small rake. As they say if you can't spot the patsy after 30 minutes...

    People tend to confuse motivational fluff with real business decisions and true due diligence. Yesterday was not the first time I have posted something on "segregation of duties" to minimize the chance of fraud. How many people do you think clicked on the links, in evaluating MAPS or any other business? Experience tells me there are people whose eyes glazed over, some being ripped off right now. But put up a funny picture, and a few of them might hang around long enough to learn something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nerd View Post
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    Like Banners Brokers Mark? These people are just unbelievable...
    Mark Ghobril always says these things without a gnat's cock's worth of irony. None.

    Utter tool.

    Btw, Mark I do hope you've been busy paying back everyone now that BB has well and truly folded.

    Or are your promises like pie crust?

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