Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Random Topic Shift...


About once a day someone in MAPS shows up at https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Ad...492200?fref=ts saying something to the effect of "I have been paid for 17 months so this can't be a scam."

Ryan Hauser was nice enough to do some math in his video assuming some sucker put $60,000 into the MAPS Ponzi. Currently their packs mature every 110 days meaning they would net $27,804 for the year.

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Effectively MAPS can pay Mapholes their own money for two full years and still have $4392 left, well almost as they paid your sponsor double dipperz $6000 + in commissions. More importantly we are dangerously close to the 2 year mark where that $60,000 is all gone gone gone. Wonder if that is why the "rule brigade" is popping up left and right with threats of closing accounts while the system gets upgraded? Any rumblins of a new payment processor?

It should be less that the two years though because most are not putting in $60,000 but building up to that with the fake profits and no real money. Out of the people I know sucked into this, no one has put more than $5000 in and most much less. So, once they all hit the magic 1200 (most won't as we know) they will withdraw their initial investment within a couple of months. I think we can be quite certain hardly anyone has put in $60,000 because someone who has access to that much or has saved that amount would normally be good with money and would not invest in such a thing with such high risk and little logic. To be in MAPs you are either a) not very intellectual or b) a fraudster who knows exactly what you are doing and don't care. The only thing that is holding this together is that no one is withdrawing as they chase the magic 1200. They all remind me of when we see the Aliens worshiping The Claw in Toy Story. They just blindly worship and cannot see there downfall.... Seriously when I look at the facebook page in my head all I see is those aliens and not people. I need to stop my kid watching that film!

Doing some research on maps and found the following. $4 roughly per pack earned (around £2-£3 uk pound), and people are qutting their jobs for this!
I joined MAPS a few weeks ago and bought my first Credit Pack about a week ago. So far I think MAPS is complete BS. I don't know how people make money with this program. First of all when I bought my credit pack for $49.99 MAPS charged me a $1.59 fee and then VX Gateway charged me a $4.11 fee! So I ended up paying $55.69 for 1 credit pack. Here's the real catch though, you can only earn $60 per credit pack! Once you reach $60 your credit pack expires. WTF! So for my $55.69 investment the MOST I can earn from that is $4.31!

Originally Posted by Dandygal

It should be less that the two years though because most are not putting in $60,000 but building up to that with the fake profits and no real money. Out of the people I know sucked into this, no one has put more than $5000 in and most much less. So, once they all hit the magic 1200 (most won't as we know) they will withdraw their initial investment within a couple of months. I think we can be quite certain hardly anyone has put in $60,000 because someone who has access to that much or has saved that amount would normally be good with money and would not invest in such a thing with such high risk and little logic. To be in MAPs you are either a) not very intellectual or b) a fraudster who knows exactly what you are doing and don't care. The only thing that is holding this together is that no one is withdrawing as they chase the magic 1200. They all remind me of when we see the Aliens worshiping The Claw in Toy Story. They just blindly worship and cannot see there downfall.... Seriously when I look at the facebook page in my head all I see is those aliens and not people. I need to stop my kid watching that film!

Dandygal,

If you don't mind sharing, could you tell us about your friends that got in it. How did they hear about it? Are they all from the same group of people that hang out together etc.? Are they network marketers? Elderly?

Someone who has been conspicuous by his absence of late and probably deserves more recognition is My Advertising Pays "Chief Operating Officer" and "multi-award-winning independent film producer" Cornelius Booker III



Meet the MAP Team



Cornelius Booker III' cornelius.bookeriii.5 page on Facebook

Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime

It's where data is stored - e.g. about members, payments owed, etc.

My understanding is that MySQL Databases are stored on the main server.

Do you REALLY needs a separate 'MySQL Server' to store this sh*t?

More to the point, WTF do you need to 'tinker' with it for? It's a friggin' database
it updates itself.

Yet more flannel from this bunch of twunts.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Someone who has been conspicuous by his absence of late and probably deserves more recognition is My Advertising Pays "Chief Operating Officer" and "multi-award-winning independent film producer" Cornelius Booker III



Meet the MAP Team



Cornelius Booker III' cornelius.bookeriii.5 page on Facebook

You know, LRM, that has crossed my mind too.

Who is he? Why does he never comment on anything MAP-wise? What does he do? Why do the Booths, Deese and Stepsys NEVER make any reference to him? Is he the sleeping partner? What is his role?

I notice that Leslie Carter is shown on his FB page as one of his friends, but as far as I can see, he's a real mystery man!

Oh - if Our Tone reads this, you can bet that suddenly, they will start mentioning him. And if they do, I'll know they have read these comments - Hello, Tony!

Everyone who has heard every single decree in Frank Calabro's latest pinned post incorporated into the end game of every single internet Ponzi SCAM you have followed in the last 20 years, please raise your hand.



For the current victims of MyAdvertisingPays who may be ((( ALL EXCITED ))) about the next "MAPs Event" in a rented hotel space somewhere, watch the following video and see if you recognize anyone you know. All of these SCAMS follow the exact same formula:



For Simon Stepsys:

Spend it fast.
Hiding it doesn't work any more:

Pyramid scheme victims win $6.5M in B.C. lawsuit

Pyramid schemer deported to U.K.

SD

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Originally Posted by shipdit

Everyone who has heard every single decree in Frank Calabro's latest pinned post incorporated into the end game of every single internet Ponzi SCAM you have followed in the last 20 years, please raise your hand.

Originally Posted by shipdit

Everyone who has heard every single decree in Frank Calabro's latest pinned post incorporated into the end game of every single internet Ponzi SCAM you have followed in the last 20 years, please raise your hand.

Cheeky Pint time mate.

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Originally Posted by Della Cate

Oh - if Our Tone reads this, you can bet that suddenly, they will start mentioning him. And if they do, I'll know they have read these comments - Hello, Tony!

Ole Tony tossed Gerbil under the bus, bet Booth fades to black sooner rather than later...

Thanks Mark. Adding referrals is just the beginning of these people's problems.

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Wouldn't a real business have addressed the illegally offered unregistered security presentation issues 18 months ago? Was a top network marketing attorney not on board, no he wasn't, still did they not do their legal homework? Ad Packs are unregistered securities, it does not matter what Mappers call them or what they don't show. Every damn scam, including Zeek Rewards which some Map leaders said was a real business play this naming game near the end. Oh let's call Ad Packs cookies, and the outcome will suddenly be different.

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Hey, Shipdit - that's a really great video you posted.

I watched it to the end. And yes, it reminds me SO much of things like Banners Broker and MAPs and, oh, all the rest of them! Thank you for posting it.

Knowing where BB first began, it made me smile when they said that Canada was getting a reputation for being the home of scams. BB must have started shortly after that TV show was made. Seems to me though that anywhere can be a home of scams. The Uk isn't innocent in this respect, and clearly, neither is Australia or Germany or France or Italy, to name just a few.

The meetings with that Kippax character (must google him and find out more) reminded me of a religious revival meeting. Did anyone else get that? Once you get people all wound up and everyone cheering and whooping, it is easier to sell them things. And once everyone around you is doing something, it is very, very hard for some people to resist joining in. What do they call it? Groupthink? No wonder the Merry Mappers hold meetings and want to bring prospective members along.

Pyramid schemes may be illegal in the UK, but they never seem to hit the headlines, we don't have journalists investigating and TV shows about them, and nothing seems to be done of which I am aware. I'm in the UK, but I have no recollection of any emerald buying scheme run by Kippax's cousin being shut down over here. That was when - 2008? 2007? In those days I wasn't aware of such things and wasn't looking out for them, but I will see what google tells me if I start looking round.

Good find there, Shipdit

Blimey! Alan Kippax has ended up back in Blighty! Thanks a bunch, Canada!

Pyramid schemer deported to U.K. | Winnipeg | News | Winnipeg Sun

http://pyramidschemealert.org/canadi...ess-in-motion/

Wonder if he's joined any schemes over here, like, oh, I don't know, MAPs, or would that be too silly?

Originally Posted by Char

Dandygal,

If you don't mind sharing, could you tell us about your friends that got in it. How did they hear about it? Are they all from the same group of people that hang out together etc.? Are they network marketers? Elderly?

The main person is actually a normal family man chasing the dream. He has been really sucked into the cult of it all and really believes that it is a legitimate business and there for the long term. He was always looking to make quick additional money but at present works full time in a decent job. We have tried to persuade him to no avail although he has got his initial stake money out so he will not lose (except his time and and a bit of his pride). He has recruited but within his circles and not actively undertaken network marketing. He thinks we are mad for not investing and will be sorry when he has bought a new house next year and can give up his job. He just cannot see that neither the maths or the business plan / strategy just does not work. There are also a few around my area that are involved, I have been approached separately by someone on Facebook (from my area) asking if I would like to earn some easy income for my kids and that was a bit predatory in my opinion (I think he knew the way it really works). I really did not like to see one picture though of lots of elderly at a Maps meeting and I must say when they really believe like my friend does I can see how naive people can get sucked in by naive (and otherwise trustworthy) people. It is a cult - pure and simple. The sooner it falls the better and then people can get on with making normal lives.

He may think he's home free since he has his initial back, but has he considered what will happen if the law shuts it down? Specifically clawbacks a la Zeek. If his house ends up on the net winner list...!

Hey, look! SIMON'S GOT A DIFFERENT JACKET ON!!

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But just look at the background. He's in Portugal for some MAPs shindig, and it looks to me very much like the same place where he received the BB Top Affiliate award.

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He must have a block booking.

Somebody shouls be able to figure out where that golf course in the background is...looks like CA or TX desert...

It seems Leith Esterhuizen isn't quite as proud of his association with My Advertising Pays as one would imagine.

Following his exposure in THIS post here on REALSCAM.com Mr Esterhuizen appealed to the You Tube copyright Gods to have the video removed, the poster warned and threatened with having the offending account closed and then changed the videos' status on his own channel to "private" so the offending video couldn't be linked to.

One can't help but wonder if Mr Esterhuizen can see the writing on the wall WRT the impending demise of My Advertising Pays and his actions mark the beginning of a campaign to sanitize the 'net of any evidence of his involvement, whether he is genuinely surprised some of his "downline" are complaining to forums such as this or whether he has, indeed, undergone an genuine epiphany and realizes the error of his ways.

Whatever the reason, let's refresh our memories.





Leith Esterhuizens' leith.esterhuizen page on Facebook

The question then arises, is this to be the beginnings of a "ring around the video uploading sites" claiming copyright infringement or will Leith realize what he is doing is promoting an illegal ponzi fraud, his association is on the 'net forever the best thing he could do for his future is withdraw gracefully

Originally Posted by laidback

He may think he's home free since he has his initial back, but has he considered what will happen if the law shuts it down? Specifically clawbacks a la Zeek. If his house ends up on the net winner list...!

He is only on around 500 packs, I hope it will go under before it hits 1200 but no he has not considered it because he really thinks the company is legitimate and not a ponzi.

Originally Posted by laidback

Somebody shouls be able to figure out where that golf course in the background is...looks like CA or TX desert...

Somewhere on the Algarve in Portugal, actually. Banners Broker had an event there, now MAPs is doing the same. Looks like Our Boy is at the same hotel.

Gotta love Jon Walsh. He knows how to push Tony Booth's buttons. Honourable mention to Wayne Tew for pitching in as well. Long post below but worth reading.

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Saved, before Our Tone deletes 'em.

Originally Posted by ribshaw

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yeah........he's never going to find parts for that chainsaw.

Jets Fifita on Claire Hartman James' Cairehartman page on Facebook



The Australian Consumer and Competition Commission ScamWatch website

Anyone interested can file a complaint on the ACCC ScamWatch report a scam to the ACCC webpage

Jon Walsh again.....more power to you, Jon, for winding the bug*ers up!

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I wonder why Tony won't accept Jon's kind offers, hmmm??

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Jon Walsh again.....more power to you, Jon, for winding the bug*ers up!

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I wonder why Tony won't accept Jon's kind offers, hmmm??

the fact he's claiming it's not a 'genuine offer' while not even looking into it is hilarious and speaks volumes to the scam that maps is.

Originally Posted by jennyp123

My understanding is that MySQL Databases are stored on the main server.

Do you REALLY needs a separate 'MySQL Server' to store this sh*t?

More to the point, WTF do you need to 'tinker' with it for? It's a friggin' database
it updates itself.

Yet more flannel from this bunch of twunts.

Having a separate database server isn't unheard of - actually fairly common for larger enterprises. Maybe they need to tinker with it so it can crash and lose all of the data more gradually so they can prolong the scam. lol.