Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Originally Posted by ribshaw

People that promote scams try and make hay about haterz being anonymous in an effort to discredit them.

Let's play a game of "Which is the odd one out" shall we ???

Charles Ponzi,

Andy Bowdoin,

Trevor Reed,

Clayton Kimbrell,

Simon Stepsys,

Bernard Madoff,

Charis Johnson,

Deep Throat

Well, wouldya lookit that, the only one not a criminal fraudster is also the only one who chose to remain anonymous.

Two words only....

OH DEAR

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If they were "in business" as Dickie Walletblaster claims, that could be considered sage advice.
The problem being, they're not "in business" they are participants in an illegal pyramid / ponzi scheme, in which case a having "little patience" takes on a whole new meaning

Over on the MAPs Scam Fb page, an interesting posting has popped up. The writer sends greetings from Germany, where, we are told, the highest proportion of Mappers live. He says this:-

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I love the description of MAPs as a "mean, ugly scam". I am also puzzled as to why the MAPs hierarchy (whoever they are) could not answer these questions.

And as for an Annual Report.........!!

Talking of things published, have we heard any more about Simon's book??

Here it is the middle of 2015 and MAPS is working on the 2014 annual report? Got to be the slowest accounting team in history!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

And as for an Annual Report.........!!

Would like to make a snarky comment to the effect of it's nice see they are reading, that would be cheap even for me. So I will dive into why they are lying, again.



Since estimated MAPS traffic is about 20% from the US I see zero chance they would not have to have filed a US tax return for that portion of income. Additionally 1099s should have been issued to any US affiliates for them to file with their personal returns. You wouldn't do one without the other since money paid to affiliates subtracts from taxable income. Tax returns are linked to the financial statements the company would have already have to have competed.

MAPS would have to be working with major accounting and law firms to remain compliant and file paperwork in all required jurisdictions. This isn't something the ladies with the laptops could handle via turbo tax and quickbooks.

Financial Statements at this point would be a matter of pushing a button, unless MAPS is a Ponzi.


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*Friday Bonus, looky looky what is needed for the registration MAPS should have filed with the SEC...

A description of the company's properties and business;
A description of the security to be offered for sale;
Information about the management of the company; and
Financial statements certified by independent accountants

SEC.gov | Registration Under the Securities Act of 1933

Effectively connected income If a non-US person has a US trade or business, the question arises what income is ‘effectively connected’ to such US trade or
business. All US-source active income earned by a non-US person is treated as effectively connected. Passive-type income and gain from the sale of capital
assets are treated as effectively connected to a non-US person’s US trade or business only if a connection with the US trade or business exists.
Such a connection exists if the passive-type income or capital gain is derived from assets used in the US trade or business (the asset use test)
or the activities conducted in the US trade or business are a material factor in the production of the passive-type income or capital gain (the business
activities test).

http://www.pwc.com/en_US/us/tax-serv...he-us-2014.pdf



Germany 23.97%
United States 20.04%
United Kingdom 11.65%
France 10.09%
Austria 5.08%

Myadvertisingpays.com Analytics - See Traffic Ranking & Stats

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Google has a team that do targeted ads for business owners. Sales & Account Management - Google Careers If someone Googles Pizza, they get ads for hot pizza in a box, not MAP in a Box down on the 4 Corners Scamway. You are spot on.


Just like all the Google events in hotel basements, a few more recruiting meetings going make these folks rich...


Map Events Exploding & happening all over the WORLD!

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Portugal MAP Millionaires Weekend May 23/24. it was AMAZING!

How amazing could it have been if the website hits won't even register?

Originally Posted by ribshaw

Germany 23.97%
United States 20.04%
United Kingdom 11.65%
France 10.09%
Austria 5.08%

Myadvertisingpays.com Analytics - See Traffic Ranking & Stats

GOOGLE Number of employees in 2014 = 53,600



MY ADVERTISING PAYS Number of employees 2014 = less than 10

And MAPPERS wonder why they have no external advertisers and people don't take them seriously when they say they're going to be bigger than Google and Facebook.

Here's a sweet little blog that we can all enjoy:-

No One Is Perfect.Even Simon Stepsys. | myadvertisingpaysscamalert

To save you looking it up, here is a copy and paste extract (I'm getting a bit fed up pf screenshots today)

Every online business opportunity has haters but I must say none like My Advertising Pays (MAPS).Simon Stepsys has been in the online business for years and you cannot be in business and not make mistakes,we learn from our mistakes,our mistakes are not there to bury us,they are obstacles we have to overcome.Simon Stepsys is no different ,he has grown and is growing relentlessly and as he is growing he is helping people.

One thing he said was, even though I have made money and I am rich I still behave as if I have no money,meaning he doesn’t just sit on his turf squandering the money but he keeps at it,working hard and helping as many as he can.

Some people have made it their mission to bring him down unknown to them they are actually building this man up more and more and making him a celebrity in the online business.

It’s a shame that these people spend more time trying to bring a person down while they rot.Unfortunately some believe them and refuse to join,I did the opposite,I joined MAPS after reading every negative review online and I am overjoyed!!!
Simon Stepsys had a ruling issued by the ASA (Advertising Standards Agency)
I totally understand that some people may have an issue with how some adverts were worded by Simon, however HUGE companies face complaints like this on a daily basis and have legal teams to deal with them, however Simon stood his ground, he made a few little mistakes here and there in some adverts.. SO WHAT! is he not human? if this was so serious as the bloggers group of lap dogs claim why was the ruling worded so politely? bloggers and their group of lap dogs have stated on many occasions Simon should be imprisoned!REALLY!!! please see Action by ASA:

So there we have it - Simon is now a celebrity in the online business, he's only human, the poor love, and the ASA ruling was politley worded because it's not serious.

Goodness me, we've been wrong all along! I see the light now!

I guess professional scamming is a business. I don't see mention of the court action taken against him.

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Danny.

Let's try and get this straight, shall we?

No-one (as far as I know) has ever said that people would not make money with MAPs. Every scheme worth its salt starts off by paying people money. It has to, to generate an initial buzz of interest. The quicker people join, the more chance they have of getting lots of money out of it, because at the start, there's lots more money flowing in, owing to the initial excitement of the thing.

The real problem is with any scheme where the main focus is in recruiting - or "getting referrals" if you like - because it is the new recruits who pump money into the system, and this money is then paid out to other members. When the recruitment dries up, so does the money.

As I see it, MAPs is doing OK(ish) because new people are joining and the majority of existing members are trying to build up to the magical 1200 credit packs. But the day will come when new people aren't joining, and when existing members have made their 1200 packs; and they want their long-awaited regular payments. That, then, will be the test of whether or not MAPs is a scam or a ponzi.

Given that no-one has shown, publically, any external advertising worth significant money - and we cannout count little ads for other schemes - the assumption has to be that it is membership money and the buying of credit packs that is keeping this thing afloat. Relying on that makes the whole thing unsustainable for the long term. People have asked MAPS for some evidence of income apart from members' money, but none has ever been provided. All people who question MAPs get is abuse, told they "don't understand", told they are "haterz" or, as Richard Mead posted recently on your little blog Danny, told that they must have "drug problems".

So what I think is......When someone takes $100 out of the scheme, that $100 has most likely come from someone else's pocket.

I have no doubt that some people have made money and are making money. That's not the question.

The question is: Where does that money come from?

Before cashing in the 401K and selling MeMaw's silver to fund your MAPS account consider the following:

2015 years +++ of endless recruiting ended one way, it ain't snow cones on the beach.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ponzi_schemes


Once in a while, someone commits fraud or another crime and does not feel stress. Such people are referred to as:
Psychopaths

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This section unreadable if you upvoted anything posted by Simon Stepsys in the last 30 days.

Innocents involved in MAPs are taking it at face value that a bunch of career grifters and incompetents are suddenly correct. Many people will remember the 2007 financial meltdown brought on in part by the Liar Loan Definition | Investopedia. Many banks stopped doing NINJA Loan Definition | Investopedia after the meltdown. Of course a few competent investors never did them at all.

MAPS is a LYING NINJA on steroids, only no one will be getting a bailout. All the insiders that magically dumped their stock before it cashed, played this time by your MAP leaders.

Investors need to be at least as thorough as the banks if they want to minimize the risk of fraud. When a bank requests documents, they generally get them from the source. For instance mortgage applicants will fill out Form 4506, Request for Copy of Tax Return and the bank will obtain three years to five years of returns mailed directly from the IRS to their office. Guesses why they don't let people shoot a video or bring in some screen shots as social proof?

A rule of thumb. If someone is trying to sell a business, or get a loan, and they want to cheat they are more likely to overstate their income to a potential investor than to the IRS. Conversely, they are more likely to maximize their expenses to the IRS in an effort to reduce taxes. Hence the need to reconcile personal financial statements with source documents.

You can always ask to obtain someone's return before handing your money over to them. They can also tell you to go to hell, but that does save some reading. Since MAPS lives or dies on Mike Deese being an honest guy, I would want to see his personal returns, corporate returns, and of course those pesky audited financials. If MAPS is the real deal, that seems a bare minimum that already would be available to investors.

Anybody heard of this guy? Ron Smith? His facebook friends list reads like a 'Complete Guide to Scammers'. He's on the Maps Official Facebook page Admin:

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Megarichads.com: Simon's lining up his next scam:

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

Anybody heard of this guy? Ron Smith? His facebook friends list reads like a 'Complete Guide to Scammers'. He's on the Maps Official Facebook page Admin:

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so they're joining a new team?

Looks like it yes. Simon knows exactly the time to jump ship, which always signals the end of said PONZI lol.

And look here, he can't even be bothered to start any blog posts!

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

Anybody heard of this guy? Ron Smith?

Well, he started with $500 and pulled out $4 to prove it could be done. Unadulterated business genius I would say.



ronsmith@maximumsuccess.com
ronsmith@wecansucced.com

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

Megarichads.com: Simon's lining up his next scam:

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Megarichads? Is that different from his "getmegarich" website that was mentioned in the ASA ruling?

He's not very inventive in his names, is he?

I spotted a couple of interesting Tweets earlier today.
Laura is a Journalist for the Mirror.
https://twitter.com/ljconnorjourno


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Could the Mirror be doing a piece about what a great guy the Septic One is,
how he inspires people & makes 'em megarich?

If you check Laura's followers it looks like Simon didn't bother to follow her back.
A little strange I feel, as you would imagine it would give Simon the opportunity to
spread the word about MAPs.

I hear that Simon Stepsys owns a Bentley car. Has anybody any idea where he bought it?
HERE

or HERE

Do you think Simon is buying his 2015 Christmas presents?

Originally Posted by Simon's Meat Sock #32

No One Is Perfect.Even Simon Stepsys. | myadvertisingpaysscamalert

One thing he said was, even though I have made money and I am rich I still behave as if I have no money

Simon behaves as a lot of scam victims think rich people behave.

Originally Posted by Simon's Meat Sock #32

Simon Stepsys has been in the online business for years and you cannot be in business and not make mistakes,we learn from our mistakes

Funny I never hear Simon talk about his "mistakes" busted Ponzi schemes, in fact he goes out of his way not to mention them. Contrary to "learning" from his "mistakes" he keeps promoting the same scams with new names and the same shtick.

Please correct me if I am wrong sincere blogger person...

Simon did keep all the money he made promoting his "mistakes", yes? He did send an attorney and fight to keep the $15,000 he stole from Damien Caracus in the Banners Broker Ponzi Scam, yes?

Originally Posted by Simon's Meat Sock #32

Simon Stepsys had a ruling issued by the ASA (Advertising Standards Agency)

Simon lost this ruling because he offered no proof of his claims. He claims to be #mentorofmillionaires, who are they? Claims to have been online for twenty years showing people how to make money, couldn't any of those folks give brother Simon some kind words? For a guy that lives to brag, Simon sure is mum with any real data demonstrating his alleged success.

Originally Posted by Simon's Meat Sock #32

It’s a shame that these people spend more time trying to bring a person down while they rot.

Sorry, but me sees things a little differently. I think it a shame Simon for years has been stealing from hard working people with the same ruses. As for "rotting", personally I couldn't be more proud of the work people that have exposed Simon have produced. Sometimes I giggle myself to sleep thinking about all the money not in Simon's pocket, money that people can actually use providing real stuff for their families.

TARA TALKS: SIMON STEPSYS - BEWARE!
http://www.realscam.com/f16/simon-stepsys-3342/

Originally Posted by Simon's Meat Sock #32

Unfortunately some believe them and refuse to join

Oh that warms my hate filled half a heart.

Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe

I spotted a couple of interesting Tweets earlier today.
Laura is a Journalist for the Mirror.
https://twitter.com/ljconnorjourno


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Could the Mirror be doing a piece about what a great guy the Septic One is,
how he inspires people & makes 'em megarich?

If you check Laura's followers it looks like Simon didn't bother to follow her back.
A little strange I feel, as you would imagine it would give Simon the opportunity to
spread the word about MAPs.

Interesting. Do you think they may have picked up on the "lttle telling off" that the ASA gave Simon?

So, tell me again, MAPpers, how My Advertising Pays is going to be the next Google or Facebook and Septic Simon Stepsys the next Larry Page, Sergey Brin or Mark Zuckerberg



Sydney Morning Herald

Explain to me why Larry Page, Sergey Brin or Mark Zuckerberg don't just get all their employees to buy some credit packs and click on ten ads a day.

Is it any wonder nobody takes MAP or MAPpers seriously ???

Now then Danny boy.......calm down, dear......

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For reference, I for one have NEVER been in ANY sort of scheme. Certainly not Banners Broker, or Empower or anything similar.

For the record, I don't live in a "council flat". Not that there is anything wrong with council housing, or people who live in it.

And I don't know why Danny boy is decrying it. After all, one of the most loyal followers of Simon and Maps (and Banners Broker before it), Richard Arblaster by name, until recently lived in a shared house (or HMO, House in Multiple Occupation).

Danny boy attached a photo to this posting (not copied by me), and included a comment that he thought Tara had a secret crush on Simon and was actually stalking him from frustrated passion!! LOL!!!



I think not, Danny. I think not!

Simon's book is on its way!

Has to be a rush job before MAPs collapses, I suppose.

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Can we pre-order a copy from Amazon, do you think?? Or will it be a cash only to Simon (used notes in a brown envelope?) job?