Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Even that man of mystery, Mike Deese, has popped up - but posted in a German FB page, not the UK one.

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Isn't it funny, that not a single person has tackled directly the DM article and attempted to refute, with facts, anything written in it? It's a few oblique references, and then loads of feel good quotations and hearsay and "rah, rah, Maps works!" type stuff to try to keep the rest of them in line.

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Simon Stepsys Success International - the one that was to be dissolved - has had a DISS40 issued against it.

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Here are some possible reasons why:

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Goodness me! This has now appeared......on the Simon Stepsys MAPs Success FB Group page!!

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I am very surprised to see it there!

Originally Posted by the price is wrong scammer

maps works for everyone (sic) of the 174000 members and that story is clearly one sided

well, let's see...........got any proof of this claim like 'everyone' (sic) of it's 174000 (lol) members have gotten their original investment back? didn't think so. that would have to happen first before "we all make money". That's how a real business operates.
now.......septic had and still HAS a chance to rebut and prove it's all a lie.

Originally Posted by the price is wrong scammer

all the maps members took no notice of it at all

really? THAT'S the lie you're going with? I think the booths and deese say different.

The posting on SS's FB group page.....I had just screenshotted it, and BOOM!! (as Mappers say), it vanished!

That was quick, even for them.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

The posting on SS's FB group page.....I had just screenshotted it, and BOOM!! (as Mappers say), it vanished!

That was quick, even for them.

the one above that they didn't take notice of? lmao

Originally Posted by Whip

the one above that they didn't take notice of? lmao

Yep, that's the one!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

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I don't understand what there is to understand, understand?

A Mapper puts in $60,000 and clicks 10 ads per day. For this simple task he/she is paid $8400 every 100 days give or take. PLUS gets $3600 in advertising credit. Can 170,000 folks be that thick, I mean **** back up the truck that's the deal of the century.

Wait there's more!!! A bonus 10% paid on every pack Mappers get others to purchase until the end of time + 1 day.

What are these "ins and outs" of which Mr. Deese Speaketh

End of the day, there is no "I" in team, however there's an "I" in PonzI.

OR

160,000 people know that anytime someone uses the word STRATOSPHERE in reference to a business that relies on endless recruiting they are dealing with a carnival barker (my apologies to carnival barkers) and are about to go home with some deer whistles for the front bumper or something equally useless.

Sorry that was cheap on my part, just that I would expect the CEO to be talking about bigger picture stuff like all the outside vendors that have signed million dollar contracts for this awesomeness.

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There was a bee in my bonnet all day about something Danny keeps saying. His claims that haters were in Banners Broker or Zeek or dare I even say MAPS.

I was never in a scam like that, but have certainly been burnt a few times. If someone was in one of the hundreds of ad clicking Ponzi schemes and realized they are all scams does that make them more or less credible? Even above we heard from Mike Deese about people not understanding the "ins and outs". Who better than people that have been in the trenches?

Just thought Danny might want to expand a bit.

Funny story over on Behind MLM

My Advertising Pays are dishing out C&Ds that apparently aren't worth the virtual paper they aren't printed on.
(well at least one so far mentioned there)

Apparently somebody really upset the MAPs scammers when the Ponzi recruitment events were cancelled in London.

Hell hath no fury like a pissed off scammer.

Pop over to Oz's blog to read the full story.

http://hindmlm.com/companies/myadver...nts-cancelled/


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So, "there's no greed here" [in MAPs] is there, Dickie?

Everyone just in it for the good of their health, and to help apple-cheeked children playing with kittens and puppies under trees are they?

Even those who post endless pictures of cars, watches, rings, piles of money, big houses (remember your "property inspiration" postings Dickie?), themselves on speedboats or in hotel swimming pools etc? Those who boast of having withdrawn X amount of money, who say they are now "financially free" and can "sack the boss"?

They're not greedy?

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Well, give me another word for it then. I'd be interested to know. OF COURSE they are in it to make money, and they want to make LOTS of it, quickly and easily, despite people saying its not a "get rich quick" scheme!

Has anybody seen this MAPS lunacy?

I have to go out in a few minutes so could somebody else copy the picture of, what is supposed to be a Danish Street littered with MAPS billboards.

The url and image was posted in a ponzi forum by somebody using the screen name vivekmehrotra56. A familiar name to those who know the way round MAPS sewers?

Originally Posted by path2prosperity

Has anybody seen this MAPS lunacy?

I have to go out in a few minutes so could somebody else copy the picture of, what is supposed to be a Danish Street littered with MAPS billboards.

The url and image was posted in a ponzi forum by somebody using the screen name vivekmehrotra56. A familiar name to those who know the way round MAPS sewers?

Originally Posted by Della Cate

They're not greedy?

This was posted in Simon's group.

Hi everyone. I have been reading all your posts and was inspired by all your positive messages here..I just joined 3 days ago and bought just 1 credit pack. I was so excited and happy to see money coming into my account. I took a photo of my first $1!!
smile emoticon I am just waiting for payday and I will buy more credit packs.. ‪#‎Goal1200‬ Happy weekend to all!!


If taking money from someone that has to wait until payday to do anything is not the height of greed I'll be darned if I know what is.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

lmao. they couldn't even photoshop it so the name fits the banners.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Goodness me! This has now appeared......on the Simon Stepsys MAPs Success FB Group page!!

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I am very surprised to see it there!

Simon Stepsys could be caught with his penis halfway up an elephant and those clowns would still think he's as staunch as they come

Sometimes it's wise to concede a smaller point to win a larger one. In light of the threatening letter from the meanie attorney for this one post I will put the word Ponzi in my back pocket with the dryer lint.

Pretending MAPS is a real business and they are enduring tortious interference with their economic advantage as a result of liberal use of the "P" word...

There is that other "P" word, seems clear to me that accurately describes what is going on here...


Koscot case has been referred to in every suspect pyramid scheme case since.

(1) Payment of money to the company;
(2) The participant receives the right to sell a product (or service);
(3) The participant receives compensation for recruiting others into the program;
(4) The compensation is unrelated to the sale of products (or services) to the ultimate user.

A (MLM) Skeptic: MLM Dictionary: Koscot Test

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Also little doubt in my mind that MAPS is an unregistered security being illegally offered by unlicensed agents. Especially in the light that someone with 1200 credit packs clicks the same 10 ads as someone with 1, how is that extra return generated if not an investment?


1. Upon the facts of this case, an offering of units of a citrus grove development, coupled with a contract for cultivating, marketing, and remitting the net proceeds to the investor, was an offering of an "investment contract" within the meaning of that term as used in the provision of § 2(1) of the Securities Act of 1933 defining "security" as including any "investment contract," and was therefore subject to the registration requirements of the Act. Pp. 328 U. S. 294-297, 328 U. S. 299.

2. For purposes of the Securities Act, an investment contract (undefined by the Act) means a contract, transaction, or scheme whereby a person invests his money in a common enterprise and is led to expect profits solely from the efforts of the promoter or a third party, it being immaterial whether the shares in the enterprise are evidenced by formal certificates or by nominal interests in the physical assets employed in the enterprise. Pp. 328 U. S. 298-299.

3. The fact that some purchasers, by declining to enter into the service contract, chose not to accept the offer of the investment contract in its entirety does not require a different result, since the Securities Act prohibits the offer, as well as the sale, of unregistered nonexempt securities. P. 328 U. S. 300.

4. The test of whether there is an "investment contract" under the Securities Act is whether the scheme involves an investment of money in a common enterprise with profits to come solely from the efforts of others; and, if that test be satisfied, it is immaterial whether the enterprise is speculative or nonspeculative, or whether there is a sale of property with or without intrinsic value. P. 328 U. S. 301.

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/fed.../293/case.html


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Danny asks, "is this a crime", I suppose it depends on how the FTC and SEC would interpret the above. As an investor I see no reason not to wait on the sidelines( Please do what you want with my musings dear reader, I probably made this stuff up out of envy) until verifiable legal opinions are in hand. Hey I could be wrong, this could be the first endless recruiting program in the history of the world that didn't run out of people & money.


The corollary being MAPS is trying to operate as a legitimate business, one can only image the financial carnage if there were little to no real profits to share.

PONZI PONZI PONZI PONZI PONZI!!!! **** I couldn't breath there for a second.


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Originally Posted by ribshaw

Is this a crime why yes it is if you cant prove where the profits are coming from..JPG

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.p...bstory_index=0


Danny asks, "is this a crime", I suppose it depends on how the FTC and SEC would interpret the above. As an investor I see no reason not to wait on the sidelines( Please do what you want with my musings dear reader, I probably made this stuff up out of envy) until verifiable legal opinions are in hand. Hey I could be wrong, this could be the first endless recruiting program in the history of the world that didn't run out of people & money.


The corollary being MAPS is trying to operate as a legitimate business, one can only image the financial carnage if there were little to no real profits to share.

Here they go again. "Prove to me that it ISN'T so!"

As fas as I can see it, it isn't for anyone to prove something wrong......it's for the proponents to prove it right.

So, Danny darling, you prove to me that MAPs is a real, genuine business, with properly (and independently) audited accounts, real outside advertisers and proof of where all MAPs income comes from. Do that first, before you challenge anyone else.

Has anybody seen this little gem? Unbelievable twaddle! There are so many things wrong with it, I hardly know where to start. But the best bit is putting FOUR YEARS into a calculator that has packs expiring after 120 days!


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Here it is in all it's glory
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It's obviously better to start with 320CPs then.
That'll be $15,996 or £10,316 please

Originally Posted by Della Cate

As fas as I can see it, it isn't for anyone to prove something wrong......it's for the proponents to prove it right.

See it the same, we aren't the ones asking people to invest in this foolery.

This post is over on https://www.facebook.com/pages/My-Ad...492200?fref=nf.



Michael Price what a load of rubbish , why is he going to waste his time amusing some very tiny face book page called "my advertising pays scam" who clearly have it in for him , it would be like trying to have an argument with a brick wall , no matter what he says or does , your automatic dislike to him is going to ignore anything he ever says , i for one wouldn't even entertain the idea of arguing with such a small minority of people , of whom have got issues with my advertising pays , yet your asking people to comment , but as soon as they go against the grain and defend it , you block them from commenting , , so the only people who can actually comment are all your fellow moaners , that comment in the paper did not stop any members from joining and it certainly didn't stop the amount of people signing up as usual , whether you see it as a scam or not , people make their own choices whether to join or not , and all your doing is crying between yourselves , i somehow think this post will be removed soon because its defending maps , you can say what you like , but i and the 175000 other people doing this are all making money every single day , and it will continue , you clearly jumped on the 2nd rate newspaper bandwagon, and thought you had claimed a victory , from a newspaper that clearly had a one sided view of maps from a small group of people who clearly don't like simon , but in all tense and purposes you failed , you have not actually gained anything from this ,unless you claim " 3 million more people now about simons activities " but so what ?? i suggest you move onto something more worth while like world peace or the melting icebergs , or what ever takes your fancy , if you believe you can stop the flow of my advertising pays then your sadly mistaken , you play on the fact its 3 million commissions , how stupid are you ?? why would simon even attempt to try and turn round 3 million readers of a 2nd rate newspaper ... after all he's only 1 of 175000 people doing my advertising pays ....and no it does not make me angry !!

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The Sion worship aside this fella can't prove there are 175,000 members, much less them all making money. His post has not been deleted, and a handful of people have tried to engage him in conversation.

Talking of absolute tosh, here is a recent posting on SS's Fb Group page. I've copied and pasted it, rather than wasting a screen shot or two on it.

You'd better brace yourselves for this one:-


"Here is another good argument for why you can promote MyAdvertisingPays wholeheartedly: The MAP products don't create waste!
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When you buy a cell phone, it ends up in a land fill after a couple of years, because there are newer and prettier versions out there already. It might be lucrative though to own a few cell phone stocks...
Or take Gilette, the company that sells its plastic scrapers so cheaply because the real money is made from the ongoing repurchase of razor blades that went dull. Why do blades get dull? Because otherwise, no one would repurchase any.
In the stock market, one can't know for sure whether cell phone or razor blade stocks will earn you any profits.
With MAP, you know that a credit pack always earns exactly $60, and after that it just expires without the tiniest trace of having produced any garbage. The credit packs just have to expire, because, otherwise no one would purchase any new ones and it wouldn't be possible for MAP to retain or grow revenues as easily.
I congratulate Mike Deese for the creation of environmentally friendly products and I am happy with all MAPpers out there that we can advertise our businesses so cost-efficiently and on top of all, that we all are participating in the sharing of profits together.
Well, the good conscience for being environmentally sensitive isn't something to sniff at!
We just have to get rid of those little champagne bottles in an environmentally sensitive manner too, after we pop them out to celebrate our successes with MAP"

Here's a free motto for any passing Mapper....."Go MAPs and save the planet!

Wheww! did that ever peg my drivelmeter!!!

Originally Posted by Della Cate

Here's a free motto for any passing Mapper....."Go MAPs and save the planet!

Deese deserves some credit for scamming green. Ponzi is the aluminum foil of scams, almost no limit to the number of times it can be recycled.

Originally Posted by Woodsy the Scammer

With MAP, you know that a credit pack always earns exactly $60

The credit packs just have to expire, because, otherwise no one would purchase any new ones.

Earns exactly $60 does it? Pretty sure the alleged 20% ROI is why people would be purchasing.

Originally Posted by Woodsy the Scammer

and after that it just expires without the tiniest trace of having produced any garbage.

One day they will expire and leave the tiniest trace of nothing.

In the city or in the woods keep Ponzis out of neighborhoods.

Originally Posted by Woodsy the Scammer

I congratulate Mike Deese for the creation of environmentally friendly products

I congratulate whoever paid Deese to be their beard for fooling so many people with such an old ruse.

Prosecutors Take Down Alleged Online Scam - Businessweek

Originally Posted by Woodsy the Scammer

We just have to get rid of those little champagne bottles in an environmentally sensitive manner

Practicing for what Mappaphorically is headed your way = better use of time than blogging.

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Originally Posted by HARRISON

Has anybody seen this little gem? Unbelievable twaddle! There are so many things wrong with it, I hardly know where to start. But the best bit is putting FOUR YEARS into a calculator that has packs expiring after 120 days!


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I copied this from the comments section

"I would like to thank Masadul Kabir for sharing My Advertising Pays with me. I started out with all of my savings in the bank but have increased my income by an astounding annual income of $74,968.92 for the rest of my life. Masadul told me to stay focused and do not give up. I started on May 31, 2014 and will reach 1200 credit packs around September 5, 2015. I will be having a Maps Diamond Celebration wtih my family as I reach this milestone. Thanks for all of your time and support."