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03-27-2017, 05:23 AM
#151
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
hitman
I have a friend who is deep into onecoin, he sent me a link saying Swedish police had now closed their investigation on onecoin. Apparently, this is another win for them as it proves they are the real deal.
A closed investigation into a company that has no legal presence in a country doesn't prove legitimacy.
I'm also guessing your friend neglected to tell you that the case was reopened and he probably has very little to say about Italy banning OneCoin or the myriad of other warnings about the scam.
OC affiliates are spoon fed cherry picked info by OneCoin and its leaders.
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03-27-2017, 05:56 AM
#152
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
OneCoin is losing its top promoters in the UK, Canada and the Caribbean islands. Here is the list of the major promoters that have now abandoned OneCoin: David Imonitie, the brothers Moyn and Monir Islam, Daniel Grenon, Ed Hartley, Touhid Rahman, and Marvin Sambo. Just in these leaders downline are over 26,000 people. Now if they all quit OneCoin and followed them into their next greatest program ever, it will be an ongoing financial blow to OneCoin.
The Total Market Cap of the top 100 publicly traded and real cryptocurrencies is $26,119,769,359. Ruja raised the value of OneCoin from 7.85 Euro to 9.85 Euro. This made OneCoin have 5 times the total market cap of all 100. And just think, all without mining a single coin. Sure glad this is not a Ponzi.
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03-27-2017, 06:41 AM
#153
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
hitman
I have a friend who is deep into onecoin, he sent me a link saying Swedish police had now closed their investigation on onecoin. Apparently, this is another win for them as it proves they are the real deal.
Your friend is behind the times:
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03-27-2017, 08:07 AM
#154
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
hitman
I have a friend who is deep into onecoin, he sent me a link saying Swedish police had now closed their investigation on onecoin. Apparently, this is another win for them as it proves they are the real deal.
look mom.JPG
Yeah, I'm certain that is exactly what happened then you rushed right over here for your first and only post.
One of my bigger frustrations is how feckless law enforcement continues to be with these types of scams until well after the damage is done.
The Madoff Files: A Chronicle of SEC Failure
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03-27-2017, 08:40 AM
#155
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Our old friend, Joby Boughey (pushing UFUN/UTOKEN until, cough, recent unfortunate events in Thailand) has jumped onto Onecoin in a big way. On 6th June, he is holding a special event to rope in the suckers.....I beg your pardon, so sorry; to promote it.
Attachment 10865 Attachment 10866 Attachment 10867 Attachment 10868
Some people are, however, asking about UFUN/UTOKEN, but Joby has an answer for them....
Attachment 10869
Look at the crowd hitman's "friend" is running with. Hope he's not from Thailand.
uFun Club scammer prison sentences top 12,000 years
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03-27-2017, 09:14 AM
#156
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
surfer
A closed investigation into a company that has no legal presence in a country doesn't prove legitimacy.
I'm also guessing your friend neglected to tell you that the case was reopened and he probably has very little to say about Italy banning OneCoin or the myriad of other warnings about the scam.
OC affiliates are spoon fed cherry picked info by OneCoin and its leaders.
Hi
Thank you for letting me know it's re-opened, do you have a link I can send to him.
I know it's a massive scam and have told him on many occasions, even sending him links of recent news events like Italy banning OneCoin. He keeps saying I am not open minded, yet I always send him neutral links and his are always from Facebook or OneCoin.
Apologies, I have just seen the link.
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03-27-2017, 09:20 AM
#157
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
look mom.JPG
Yeah, I'm certain that is exactly what happened then you rushed right over here for your first and only post.
One of my bigger frustrations is how feckless law enforcement continues to be with these types of scams until well after the damage is done.
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Hi Ribshaw
I tried to post last week regarding OneCoin and how I think it's a massive scam, I wrote a long post but whenever I went to post it, it wouldn't let me, there was no links in it or anything. I decided to send a smaller post to see if it would let me go through and it did.
I have tried for months now to get him to see sense yet he keeps saying to wait until summer 2018 when it goes public and how I will regret it. Believe me, I have read up on many of the scammers but to him, he can't see past what is on his internal hard drive, which says one OneCoin is worth 11 Euro.
Hitman
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03-27-2017, 09:24 AM
#158
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
look mom.JPG
Yeah, I'm certain that is exactly what happened then you rushed right over here for your first and only post.
One of my bigger frustrations is how feckless law enforcement continues to be with these types of scams until well after the damage is done.
The Madoff Files: A Chronicle of SEC Failure
Hi Ribshaw
I believe OneCoin to be a scam. I tried to post last week, but every time I went to submit reply it wouldn't let me so I decided to submit a smaller post and it has let it go through.
With regards to my friend, he keeps saying to me to wait until mid 2018 and when OneCoin goes public I will regret it.
Hitman
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03-27-2017, 09:28 AM
#159
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
OneCoin is losing its top promoters in the UK, Canada and the Caribbean islands. Here is the list of the major promoters that have now abandoned OneCoin: David Imonitie, the brothers Moyn and Monir Islam, Daniel Grenon, Ed Hartley, Touhid Rahman, and Marvin Sambo. Just in these leaders downline are over 26,000 people. Now if they all quit OneCoin and followed them into their next greatest program ever, it will be an ongoing financial blow to OneCoin.
The Total Market Cap of the top 100 publicly traded and real cryptocurrencies is $26,119,769,359. Ruja raised the value of OneCoin from 7.85 Euro to 9.85 Euro. This made OneCoin have 5 times the total market cap of all 100. And just think, all without mining a single coin. Sure glad this is not a Ponzi.
Hi
Thank you for that information.
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03-27-2017, 09:32 AM
#160
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Char
We are both from the UK.
I would like to ask one thing, has Ruja Ignatova really graduated from Oxford, her certificate shows St Hilda's College - is it fake?
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03-27-2017, 09:33 AM
#161
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
look mom.JPG
Yeah, I'm certain that is exactly what happened then you rushed right over here for your first and only post.
One of my bigger frustrations is how feckless law enforcement continues to be with these types of scams until well after the damage is done.
The Madoff Files: A Chronicle of SEC Failure
Hi
I am not trolling!!
This is the third time I'm replying to this message, each time I have typed a long one and it won't let me respond for some reason.
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03-27-2017, 09:41 AM
#162
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
hitman
Hi
I am not trolling!!
This is the third time I'm replying to this message, each time I have typed a long one and it won't let me respond for some reason.
Apologies. We get a lot of that. Anyway, welcome to realscam.
I'm not sure collleges give out that information unless perhaps you're an employer. She does appear to be well educated nonetheless. (All the better for scamming appearances)
I did spend some time trying to compare degree certificates months ago, but I didn't get too far.
Why do you ask?
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03-27-2017, 09:51 AM
#163
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Char
Apologies. We get a lot of that. Anyway, welcome to realscam.
I'm not sure collleges give out that information unless perhaps you're an employer. She does appear to be well educated nonetheless. (All the better for scamming appearances)
I did spend some time trying to compare degree certificates months ago, but I didn't get too far.
Why do you ask?
Well, one of the reasons I ask is because my friend keeps saying to check her credentials. I have a friend who works at Oxford university and have asked to see if they can help finding out if she did graduate from there so I can give him some hardcore evidence. At the moment, anything I say to him about her, he doesn't take any notice. I still haven't mentioned the Forbes magazine to him, which I should actually do to see what he says.
Also, he keeps saying to wait until mid 2018 as that is when OneCoin will go public and his investment will rocket 20 fold.
Just told him about Swedish police re-opening the investigation - he wants proof, will see what he has to say once I send him it.
Thank You
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03-27-2017, 10:01 AM
#164
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
I have had his reply from the proof I sent about Swedish re-opening -
Says that it is a bloggers post and that they are Bitcoin mob who hate onecoin.
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03-27-2017, 10:09 AM
#165
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
hitman
We are both from the UK.
I would like to ask one thing, has Ruja Ignatova really graduated from Oxford, her certificate shows St Hilda's College - is it fake?
Hitman
I have an Oxford degree. The certificate looks credible to me, although it uses fancy fonts which my older one lacks. The university used to publish an annual "Oxford University Calendar" which listed students in residence at the time.
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03-27-2017, 10:31 AM
#166
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
brezx
I have an Oxford degree. The certificate looks credible to me, although it uses fancy fonts which my older one lacks. The university used to publish an annual "Oxford University Calendar" which listed students in residence at the time.
Wouldn't she have had a graduate picture though, you would have thought if you had graduated from Oxford that you would attend a ceremony and have the pictures taken?
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03-27-2017, 10:36 AM
#167
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
hitman
Hi
I am not trolling!!
Good welcome.
Originally Posted by
hitman
I have had his reply from the proof I sent about Swedish re-opening -
Says that it is a bloggers post and that they are Bitcoin mob who hate onecoin.
Ponzi Street.JPG
If his response is of "oh the haters" variety perhaps you need to ask him what proof he has Onecoin is not a scam.
1. People always get paid to recruit others into Pozni/Pyramid scams so this isn't valid
2. Back office balances that can't be independently verified are meaningless.
3. All scams that run this long have promises of big things just around the corner.
Ask him for a detailed account about what happened with Bigcoin and all the promoters involved.
BigCoin.JPG
Scam Detector: Ruja Ignatova was part of BigCoin scam before OneCoin
Are multiple regulators in multiple jurisdictions confused? Certainly yes in his eyes.
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-sto...encies-onecoin
Make your friend walk through the red flags. 7 of 7 are present, but hope and delusion prove very powerful anecdotes to the truth.
https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersponzihtm.html
High investment returns with little or no risk
Overly consistent returns
Unregistered investments
Unlicensed sellers
Secretive and/or complex strategies
Issues with paperwork
Difficulty receiving payments
OneLife suspend OneCoin withdrawls, affiliates can't cash out
* Sooner or later the piper gets paid no matter what your friend believes. Even after the piper has razed the Onecoin village your friend may still cling to hope.
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03-27-2017, 11:45 AM
#168
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
ribshaw
Good welcome.
Ponzi Street.JPG
If his response is of "oh the haters" variety perhaps you need to ask him what proof he has Onecoin is not a scam.
1. People always get paid to recruit others into Pozni/Pyramid scams so this isn't valid
2. Back office balances that can't be
independently verified are meaningless.
3. All scams that run this long have promises of big things just around the corner.
Ask him for a detailed account about what happened with Bigcoin and all the promoters involved.
BigCoin.JPG
Scam Detector: Ruja Ignatova was part of BigCoin scam before OneCoin
Are multiple regulators in multiple jurisdictions confused? Certainly yes in his eyes.
https://www.fca.org.uk/news/news-sto...encies-onecoin
Make your friend walk through the red flags. 7 of 7 are present, but hope and delusion prove very powerful anecdotes to the truth.
https://www.sec.gov/fast-answers/answersponzihtm.html
High investment returns with little or no risk
Overly consistent returns
Unregistered investments
Unlicensed sellers
Secretive and/or complex strategies
Issues with paperwork
Difficulty receiving payments
OneLife suspend OneCoin withdrawls, affiliates can't cash out
* Sooner or later the piper gets paid no matter what your friend believes. Even after the piper has razed the Onecoin village your friend may still cling to hope.
Hi
I have already mentioned the Big Coin going bust to him but his reply was that, many of the billionaires today have had companies go bust on them. I did say to him that none of them were known scammers, but fell on deaf ears. All of the stuff you have pointed out, I have mentioned to him, but he is adamant he will be a very rich man. He thinks I am deluded!!
Actually, on Women's day OneCoin had sponsored an event where some leading women from Eastern Europe were to attend and give a talk, but Ruja Ignatova was banned because of her involvement with OneCoin, again he had no answer.
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03-27-2017, 03:43 PM
#169
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
@hitman
I'm curious. Does the friend have a history of network marketing, or is OneCoin his first venture? If you know.
I pointed out one serial scammer above. Another pushing OneCoin is Tom McMurrain CONVICTED felon. Does your friend realize the kind of company he's keeping?
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03-27-2017, 04:35 PM
#170
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Since your friend wants to talk about Dr. Ruja's background, then ask him why she claimed she was a Junior Associate at the McKinsey Law Firm, when the law firm website shows her as being a “consultant” to McKinsey from the Sofia office in 2009. In contacting the law firm they confirmed she was only a consultant, not a Junior Associate.
Ask him why Dr. Ruja claimed she was on the cover of Forbes International Magazine and they did an article on her, when it never happened. Ask him about if he knew of her and her father's criminal fraud conviction in Germany for stealing $1 Million from the company she and her father bought putting it into bankruptcy.
Ask him if he knew about her role in Loopium. You see she was the legal and financial adviser for Loopium. She also facilitated the talks with big investors (as high as 500 million euros) to be transacted from Swiss and Hong Kong accounts. Loopium was an eWwallet solution, and was founded by Sebastian Greenwood. I have no doubt she was involved in the formation of Loopium because of her role as legal and financial advisor. Loopium disappeared after she liquidated Loopium “assets” in Gibraltar/Cyprus. Almost 3 months later (23-Jun-2014) onecoin.eu domain was registered. (I am sure this was just a coincidence, cough, cough)
Zooperium Consultancy Service a replacement for Loopium was registered by Ruja Ignatova (27-Mar-2014) less than 2 weeks prior to the liquidation of Loopium (08-Apr-2014). It is of course in Gibraltar with the same virtual address as OneCoin, Loopium, Zooperium, and every other shell company she makes to funnel money.
As for her receiving her degree from Oxford, she was awarded Magister Juris in European and Comparative Law on October 23, 2004 through St Hilda’s College (University of Oxford). She received her degree in Private, Corporate, and Criminal Law, not in economics.
In short she has lied about several of her credentials. I'm sure your friend will have a great explanation for all of this, but it will just be more Ruja-speak.
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03-27-2017, 05:22 PM
#171
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
hitman: Is your friend aware that all the "educational material" that Dr. Ruja claims to have written was written by others and she just put her name on it? It is called plagiarism. One more nail in her coffin about her background.
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03-27-2017, 07:53 PM
#172
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
hitman, ask your friend to explain how OneCoin has a market cap (based on 9.85 euros per coin) of 132.4 billion euros, while Bitcoin, which is recognized as the #1 crypto-currency in the world only has a market cap of $16,847,732,295 (that's over $16 Billion dollars) with a per coin price of $ 1,037.1255. Please share his explanation with us if he answers.
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03-28-2017, 05:12 AM
#173
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
Char
@hitman
I'm curious. Does the friend have a history of network marketing, or is OneCoin his first venture? If you know.
I pointed out one serial scammer above. Another pushing OneCoin is Tom McMurrain CONVICTED felon. Does your friend realize the kind of company he's keeping?
I believe this is his first one, which may be why he is blinded by it.
With regards to Tom McMurrain, he has sent me a couple of Facebook posts of him promoting OneCoin, to which I gave detailed info about his previous companies and that he spent time in jail but he doesn't reply to those allegations.
At the moment, Ken Labine seems to be really promoting it hard - any info on him?
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03-28-2017, 05:17 AM
#174
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
Since your friend wants to talk about Dr. Ruja's background, then ask him why she claimed she was a Junior Associate at the McKinsey Law Firm, when the law firm website shows her as being a “consultant” to McKinsey from the Sofia office in 2009. In contacting the law firm they confirmed she was only a consultant, not a Junior Associate.
Ask him why Dr. Ruja claimed she was on the cover of Forbes International Magazine and they did an article on her, when it never happened. Ask him about if he knew of her and her father's criminal fraud conviction in Germany for stealing $1 Million from the company she and her father bought putting it into bankruptcy. [
Ask him if he knew about her role in Loopium. You see she was the legal and financial adviser for Loopium. She also facilitated the talks with big investors (as high as 500 million euros) to be transacted from Swiss and Hong Kong accounts. Loopium was an eWwallet solution, and was founded by Sebastian Greenwood. I have no doubt she was involved in the formation of Loopium because of her role as legal and financial advisor. Loopium disappeared after she liquidated Loopium “assets” in Gibraltar/Cyprus. Almost 3 months later (23-Jun-2014) onecoin.eu domain was registered. (I am sure this was just a coincidence, cough, cough)
Zooperium Consultancy Service a replacement for Loopium was registered by Ruja Ignatova (27-Mar-2014) less than 2 weeks prior to the liquidation of Loopium (08-Apr-2014). It is of course in Gibraltar with the same virtual address as OneCoin, Loopium, Zooperium, and every other shell company she makes to funnel money.
As for her receiving her degree from Oxford, she was awarded Magister Juris in European and Comparative Law on October 23, 2004 through St Hilda’s College (University of Oxford). She received her degree in Private, Corporate, and Criminal Law, not in economics.
In short she has lied about several of her credentials. I'm sure your friend will have a great explanation for all of this, but it will just be more Ruja-speak.
Excellent points - he will no doubt bury his head in the sand.
You may ask why I am continuing to challenge and let him lose his money, at this point in time I have actually done that, he will not change, however I had another friend who tried to get me into Traffic Monsoon. I did the usual Google search and so immediately it was a scam. This other friend and his brother had about £9k invested in TM and thanks to a blog on the net I managed to persuade them to contact PayPal and get their money back and luckily they managed to recoup with minimal losses.
I can't wait for OneCoin to go bust!!
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03-28-2017, 05:20 AM
#175
Re: onecoin.eu ponzi scam
Originally Posted by
EagleOne
hitman, ask your friend to explain how OneCoin has a market cap (based on 9.85 euros per coin) of 132.4 billion euros, while Bitcoin, which is recognized as the #1 crypto-currency in the world only has a market cap of $16,847,732,295 (that's over $16 Billion dollars) with a per coin price of $ 1,037.1255. Please share his explanation with us if he answers.
I will ask him and get back to you.
Thanks for all the info guys - much appreciated. This thread went dead end of last year but there has been so much news recently but no one seemed to have commented, good to see it resurrected, hopefully others will read it and leave the scam.
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