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    Speaking of all things One Coin, anyone who joins today or hopes to withdraw some money for Christmas is in for a huge and unpleasant surprise.



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    I think this might be the documentary on One Coin in Belgium that was mentioned on this thread -

    https://www.agoravox.tv/tribune-libr...is-et-la-75352

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    Well, Kari Wahlroos has been demoted. He is no longer the European OneCoin/OneLife Ambassador. Seems OneLife/OneCoin are blaming him for all their legal problems in Europe. Funny how they loved him touting how rich everyone would be by buying OneCoin tokens before they had to switch to claiming you were only buying advertising to sanitize their securities offering as not being a security.

    But before you shed a tear for him, he got to keep his coins. Of course one has to take his claim of 50 Million coins with a grain of salt. For at 20 Euro's per coin, that would make him a billionaire, but they are still worth zero now. He'll be lucky to get 5 cents per coin for them if this ever goes public and trades on the public exchanges. This will be lucky to limp to the end of 2018 first quarter. No CEO of either company, Ruja in hiding and Sebastian Greenwood seems to be the only one answering questions, which in itself should be scary if you are a OneCoin/OneLife member.
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    Here's why OneCoin pulled out of the US, and who better to explain it is none other than the US chief pimp himself, Tom McMurrain:

    www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvajEG3YnsA

    Kari gave a different explanation of how he got demoted than the story told by OneCoin. I know that comes as a shock to everyone that there would be conflicting stories. The problem is they are both liars so you get to choose which lie you want to believe. Ironically I tend to go with the OneCoin story lie as I know they didn't tell the whole story about his demotion.
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    Seems Russian TV did a story about OneCoin before the Belgium TV show aired, and Igor was not too happy with it and called it "yellow journalism." But let me let him tell it in his own words, and I quote:

    While Belgium article was demonizing local IMA who was actually canceled by the company since December 2016 for his antisemitic speech, this one is even worse cause this TV manipulated and abused one elderly IMA and lied to him that they want to make an interview for him. They actually only wanted to make crap propaganda as they usually do according to my local sources. They totally twisted and cut out his words. That is why the company does not allow IMA to represent the company publicly. I hope you actually do not support this kind of yellow journalism. Here is his response to their low life mud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pALh17z ... e=youtu.be

    Here's the link to the Russian TV story: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K16tLLnUMGQ

    I then asked him why this IMA could respond and it was OK and didn't violate the IMA is not to make public comments? I also asked him where was OC's crack legal team to respond demanding the TV station retract their program or they would sue them for libel and defamation? I pointed out that they were the only ones capable of responding since OC/OL has no leadership or management team and Ruja is in hiding. So far he has not responded, but you can bet it's going to be a doozy of a reply.
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    It's probably time to turn our attention to the subject of what excuses Igor is going to use to explain the total demise of OneCoin.

    It won't be long now, so, I hope for his sake hard he's working on his exit strategy
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    What do the experienced folk around here make of this -

    https://qz.com/1152564/the-hottest-c...y-xunlei-xnet/

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    Quote Originally Posted by hitman View Post
    What do the experienced folk around here make of this -

    https://qz.com/1152564/the-hottest-c...y-xunlei-xnet/
    It's an unfortunate coincidence that Xunlei chose the name of OneCoin to launch its' product.

    It has no relationship to the OneCoin.eu ponzi scheme
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    Now Udo C Deppisch has left OneCoin and on his FB page he just said it was time to move on to "other things." A little late to the game aren't you Udo. You should have been out long ago so as to be far enough away not to be caught up in the shrapnel when this explodes and it is just about to explode.

    Now what is truly incredible is that after more than 2 years of constantly denigrating Bitcoin, anyone who dared say anything negative about OneCoin, and how he had single-handed destroyed all us haters with proving us wrong about OneCoin announced that he is out of OneCoin and has not called Bitcoin the Gold of the future. Even stupid Ken had enough brains to get out before the big crash. I'm sure that Ken will soon begin his apology tour apologizing to all of us haters, ignorant people, don't know what we are talking about, etc., etc.. Yeah right. But at least he woke up and knew to get out of Dodge before the crap hits the proverbial fan. At the rate that the big guns are existing the sinking ship, there isn't going to be anyone around when this sinks. Even Sebastian Greenwood has gone silent all of a sudden. Not as long as Ruja, but still he hasn't been heard from in over a month I think. Tick Tock, Tick Tock.
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    With all the negative news almost daily, OneCoin had to stem the tide and as predicted they upped the value of a OneCoin from 15.85 Euro to 20.75 Euro just in time for Christmas. Now what is interesting about this hike in the OneCoin value, the number of coins they claim are mined per day of 72,000,000, the value just rose by the stroke of a click to 418,166,284 Euros. In short, this is more money than the Feds can print in one day. Taking all the coins they claim they have mined, this means the total valuation of OneCoin is now almost 1.5 Billion Euros, but this is not a Ponzi.

    Don't you just love numbers on a screen? I do.
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    With the heat turned up on Igor's blog that is in my name, we have his answer on how he is going to deal with OneCoin falling apart. But let me let him tell you in his own words, and I quote:

    F***K this shit already, you guys only make poison and do not ever understand what people are writing to you, if something is good or bad cause everything is bad for you.

    I hereby close this thread cause it is retarded and full of crying out about not liking pretty much anything about this system and you buzz about stuff that is not even important for success. I said I will no longer follow this topic but when the cat leaves mice are bosses and what you are saying here is in no way debate cause you never look objectively.

    Closed thread. Thank you for your time."


    For those of you who don't speak Ponzi-speak, let me translate for you. They keep using our words against us and we can't refute what we said or they would know we were lying. Too many people are starting to believe them and we can't counter their arguments any longer with made-up facts. So we have to pretend they are not worth the time to allow them to post, so I have to shut them up before they do any more damage than they have already done.

    Let's see if after a few days he has a change of heart. He did it before, but time will tell. I am not going to ask him to re-open the thread because that is what he wants me to do, as well as CryptoXpose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Idiotic Igor
    I hereby close this thread cause it is retarded and full of crying out about not liking pretty much anything about this system
    Are you sure that's the only reason you closed the thread Igor ???





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    Well, Kari Wahlroos has been demoted. He is no longer the European OneCoin/OneLife Ambassador.
    Never fear, Kari Wahlroos has emerged from the rock under which he's been hiding in Dubai, rebranded himself as "The Mighty Eagle" and is pimping the (collapsed) OneCoin clone "Dagcoin" and it's offshoot "Dag University"





    Kari Wahlroos'
    kari.wahlroos page on Facebook

    Only serious ponzi players will follow Wahlroos into Dagcoin, given his recent disastrous association with OneCoin.


    Well, serious ponzi players and complete newbies who can't use Google, that is
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    The exodus from OneCoin is now almost 100% complete. Even BusinessForHome's Ted Nuyten has stopped pimping it and is now following Kari Wahlroos and Igor Alberts into Dagcoin. Ted doesn't even include OneCoin in his top MLM programs on the BusinessForHome website now. Only a small handful of the original pimps are left, and I expect them to depart soon. So far Zafar is still onboard, but then he has a lot at stake and he could face some serious issues with the people he conned into joining OneCoin. Some in that part of the world don't play nice when cheated out of money.

    Igor appeared in Tallinn, Estonia. with Kari at a Dagcoin event. When he took the stage he started to address OneCoin without using their name, and just as he got to the really good part his mic cut out. When it came back on he never finished the thought. Too funny. Some of his later comments really damned OneCoin again without specifically saying its name, but everyone knows how big he was on OneCoin and how much he stole from OC victims. Here are just a few of the things he had to say about OneCoin, and I quote:


    "And then actually came an opportunity by where they talked about the future of payments. Where they talked about changing the world. Making on this world a more honest and better place. And actually that idea grabbed me. And I started so much to believe in that idea, that I forgot to see the reality. That’s what actually happened.

    I was talking about my vision and how we change the world and how we do it, but I didn’t look carefully enough at the facts. Till half a year ago I found out that my vision was correct, my mission was correct, what I wanted to achieve was correct… but I did it with the wrong vehicle. I needed a plane or rocket for what I wanted (to do) and I was riding a bicycle.

    Instead of the future of payments, I get more and more the idea that I was part of the next version of the Wizard of Lies.

    And then comes the point that you find out that what you think you can achieve is completely impossible, because you will never arrive in New York because you are on the Titanic.
    The Titanic took a route that seems to be shorter but was impossible to go. And the Titanic ended up between the icebergs. And the captain of the ship, they let it go on. Even when it became the most dangerous period (of the trip), the captain of the ship went to sleep. And that is actually what happened to Andrea and me in the company where we came from.

    And then, at a certain moment we saw that the ship could not continue. Yes it could continue but the icebergs were closing on. Worse off, the ship had already hit the icebergs and it was taking water. So when we found that out we searched for the captain of the ship, but the captain of the ship was completely gone. No captain anymore!

    What happened to the captain? Nobody knows. Till today nobody knows where is the captain. And we tried to find the officers of the ship but there were no officers. No CEO, no CTO, no nothing. And of course we were shocked, because we were so much in this hyper bubble – and then comes that moment that you feel like shit. That you say, “No, it cannot be! Cannot be!”

    We have 337,000 people in our team and we leaded them all, we lifted them all on this giant ship the Titanic. And we sailed into nothing. Yes, it was wrong. I leaded all of you the wrong way, ladies and gentlemen. I made possibly the biggest mistake of my life.

    Like me, (OneCoin investors) have no clue what they’re talking about. Somebody said this is the blockchain so I write it down. Then (a friend) started to explain to me about portfolios. And wow, then I talked to another guy who knows that too. And explained it too. And then, after three years in this industry, two weeks ago for the first time I understand what is the blockchain.

    And then they said, “Do you think the other company has that?” I said, “For sure not. That’s not what they have. No, no.” He said, “You need a lot of technicians to build that”.

    I said, “There’s no technicians, they just have it (a blockchain)”. He said, “No, we have over fifty, fifty-six, fifty-seven people. They are working on the technique”. I said, “No. The other company has not even fifty people for them.” He said, “Yeah but it’s a multi-national”. “Yeah but it’s a network marketing company, you don’t need all these.”

    He said, “Do you, did you ever met the Chief Technical Officer?” (I said,) “They don’t need that. They don’t have that.” Can you see how you can be in a bubble? How 3.3 million people can be in a bubble?

    “Do they have a CMO?” I said, “No, they don’t have a CMO. They fired almost everybody that they had.”

    (He said,) “Did they ever have somebody like that?” “No, they don’t need. It’s a network marketing organization. They don’t need them.” (He said,) “Did you ever saw a department where people were working?” Yes I was in the offices. There were ladies counting the money. There were a lot of ladies counting the money, because in Bulgaria came in every day, millions and millions – so there were girls counting the money. That’s important. So they (OneCoin) have a lot of people, counting the money.

    (He said,) “Yeah but do they have people who try to call them, for customer support? But that never worked out, because we figured out they have only one girl for the entire world."


    He had more to say, but you can read it at behind MLM. And once again us "Haters" were right. Funny how that works isn't it.
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    In case anyone is interested in watching Igor's entire presentation, here's the link:

    Here's the link to the full version of Igor's presentation:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6xyGmtGTNg

    I expect OC"s crack legal team to be immediately suing him for libel and defamation. That is if they can find their crack legal team. Everyone seems to have gone MIA in OC except for Ricketts who is their "Captain," but who is not part of their management team. Go figure that one out. (it's rhetorical folks)
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    In Igor Krnic's blog thread called Is One Coin A Ponzi, Igor had this to say after spending 2 days in Sofia at OneCoin, and I quote:

    "That way you would know that crypto market was capped at $750Billion 3 days ago and today it is barely $500Billion.
    Two main reasons:
    1) JP Morgan executive stated governments could ban anonymous decentralized cryptocurrencies
    2) china announced bans on centralized trading platforms.

    Whales saw this opportunity and started dumping, the price dropped, then we have most of the scared panic people sell out, and they probably trigger cautious people's stop limit orders and we have this. Now, whales will start buying a bunch of crypto and make even bigger cap cause they will be followed by even bigger fools than before. It is a circus. Full of people who do not know what they are doing and it is only them to blame cause they should educate first. The same in Onecoin, it is full of people who did not even understand what they are paying. It is easiest to blame onelife IMAs I agree but people need to give out money responsibly.

    Onecoin's no1 point is to first educate people about financial markets, and only after that comes cryptocurrency. Sadly, most of Onelife network promoted it opposite, and many people did not learn what they are giving money into, they blindly believed words from some scammy onelife people. I am talking about people who feel they are being tricked. Those are the minority I believe, cause many people realize that we need to wait for public trading but dealshaker is the key.

    I was last 2 days in Sofia at the meeting with several executives. They are finally gonna take power back cause so far, some onelife leaders held the power. And this would be because you guys made so much bad press, helped closing bank accounts (and banks are very easy to close crypto bank accounts, they do it also for bitcoin exchanged, let alone onecoin with so much negativity) so they had to give leaders to collect the money and some of them even ran away with money.

    They will now take back the control, work harder with banks. And the most important, they will more communicate with us, people.

    So please, all of you, if you have some recommendations, I will make a new topic on what you guys think is bad in this business model, so I can talk with them and they are eager to improve it. Of course not all will be immediately implemented because they have some more urgent work on platforms and also dealshaker is being developed. Pierre made a mess a bit, all that his people did is down the water, so they kinda had to go back to the square 1.

    Keep in mind that Onecoin is not IT company, they do not have their own developers so that is why there is no CTO, they are fintech company providing payment and other educational and trading platforms (not all finished of course) and for sensitive IT they decided to contract with renowed IT company from Bulgaria and this company demands to remain anonmous and they decide what tech will be disclosed for security reasons.

    I saw the whiteaper yesterday, it looks good and I will work with them to improve it even further cause IT company what is making it does not follow negative propaganda and does not understand that needs to be explained in the white paper.

    Actually, you guys do pollute threads and push them to offtopic but this might be my fault for not making you a topic to randomly put your critique opinions. There is an announcement topic where you can write anything you think is wrong: Recommendations from critiques to Onecoin company - Live debate - OneCoin Debate

    Recommendations from critiques to Onecoin company - Live debate I will be in direct link with them to try and address to at least make explorer for now."


    After exposing that Ruja has no clue what she is doing, he locked the thread so that salient point could not be made. Can't have all that negativity getting in the way of cheerleading. He now has 3 major threads locked as he couldn't take the heat.

    As for that link to critique OneCoin company - Live Debate? No such thing. Here is the key statement that debunks the claim it is for debate and again I quote:


    "WARNING: Any hater posts will be deleted and users will be banned.
    We will not discuss if Onecoin company is scam cause it isn't. We can see that scam part came from Onelife leaders that were not controlled properly.
    The company has whistleblower reports in Onelife back office so people who believe are scammed can get noted and get help.
    We know that this company is not perfect, they admit that and want to fix. Let's help them.
    For all people who hated Onecoin because you had wanted to save people from losing money, the best way you can prove yourself is to help, not ruin their work and that way actually doom all those people who you want to save. Peace."


    So we are to help them save the company for FREE.
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