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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Poor young Myriad Force is about to get a very rude and expensive lesson on how HYIP ponzis work.

    Of course it's "paying"

    What, do you really think Profitable Sunrise is going to take peoples' money and run away immediately ???

    That's how a HYIP ponzi works, you silly little "investor".

    They get you in, take your money, pay you a pittance, get your trust and THEN run away with the money.

    Tell us, Myriad, how many days will Profitable Sunrise have your money before you can get your "seed" money back ???

    Remember, at only 1% per DAY, it will take 100 days before you see one cent of profit.

    Anyone who trusts a HYIP ponzi will last at least 100 days has a serious lesson coming to them.

    Geez, at least read up on what how a ponzi works before you come on here sounding like some fresh faced kid playing HYIPs on his laptop, will you ???
    As you had researched....it's actually 240 days.
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    Ok - the parent company is registered in the UK - as follows

    "Company Summary
    Inter Reef Ltd is an Active business incorporated in England & Wales on 13th September 2011. Their business activity has not been recorded. Inter Reef Ltd is run by 1 current directors and 1 company secretary. It has no share capital. It is not part of a group. The company has not yet filed accounts. Inter Reef Ltd's Risk Score was amended on 15/09/2011.

    Profitable Sunrise is not registered as a company with the UK authorities, nor is it registered with the FSA (UK) or FINRA (US) which is a legal requirement to undertake any financial service business in either of those countries. (The UK company registration number claimed to be theirs is in fact false.) It is therefore not operating legally in the UK.

    All this information is easily available on the internet by the way.

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    Yeah, but, it's paying
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Yeah, but, it's paying
    Ouch. I asked for that one. lol Bit slow today.

    Correction - Profitable Sunrise is operating illegally in the UK. even if it is paying

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPBlog View Post
    Here's hoping Zeek/ASD/ClubAsteria/T2/Compound150 (etc.) promoter "Ken Russo" doesn't spend all his NewGNI winnings in one place. I'm thinking, Myriad Force, that you're aware of the bizarre sideshow the original GNI staged.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Welcome to REALSCAM.com Myriad Force,

    With the greatest respect, Myriad Force, but if the main criteria you use in deciding whether or not an online "opportunity" is a fraud are "I got paid" "I got paid on time" and "there is no empirical evidence" then I can confidently predict a very short, costly and painful investment career ahead of you in 2013.

    I really don't know how you think "fraud" works, particularly 'net based HYIP ponzi fraud, BUT, it would be a pretty poorly run fraud, indeed, if the victims DIDN'T get paid on time and there WAS easily found "empirical evidence"


    Unfortunately, your criteria for determining the status of a HYIP ponzi "opportunity" are guaranteed to part you from your money in double quick time.
    Dear Sir,
    As an administrator, aren't you supposed to be neutral?? Myriad has his money invested in Profitable Sunrise. It's not your money. It is his money. So if he is getting paid, he is getting paid. What's your problem?? If you have money invested in PS and have lost it, let us know, and we will not invest in PS. I strongly believe that I should listen to people who have come out of a bad experience and refrain from investing. I do not believe in listening to people who say such and such is a scam, without having lost a penny in it. If there is anyone here who has invested in PS and lost money, let him talk and I will be the most humble person and walk away from PS. But on the other hand if you have not invested and just talking just because you happen to have a mouth or fingers to type, you warrant nobody's attention. Don't give that crap about " I dug deep and found out....". You found out nothing. People, just look around. I am very much in favor of this site and this admin who is doing a great service to people who might lose money. I respect that. But at the same time keep away for speculations and false predictions. All HYIPs are good till today. Nobody knows about it tomorrow. Nobody and I mean nobody, not me, not this admin. PS has paid thus far, PS is good thus far. Tomorrow? I don't know. Anybody here who as much as tries to say that they know better about the future, are just jackasses looking for attention. If you have to talk about scam, talk about ProfitClicking where I didn't get my withdrawal out for two months, or WCA who are playing around with their smokescreens aka "web conference". Guys be truthful and save people who come here on this good site by exposing the real scams. Not imaginary ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skeptic View Post
    Dear Sir,
    As an administrator, aren't you supposed to be neutral?? Myriad has his money invested in Profitable Sunrise. It's not your money. It is his money. So if he is getting paid, he is getting paid. What's your problem?? If you have money invested in PS and have lost it, let us know, and we will not invest in PS. I strongly believe that I should listen to people who have come out of a bad experience and refrain from investing. I do not believe in listening to people who say such and such is a scam, without having lost a penny in it. If there is anyone here who has invested in PS and lost money, let him talk and I will be the most humble person and walk away from PS. But on the other hand if you have not invested and just talking just because you happen to have a mouth or fingers to type, you warrant nobody's attention. Don't give that crap about " I dug deep and found out....". You found out nothing. People, just look around. I am very much in favor of this site and this admin who is doing a great service to people who might lose money. I respect that. But at the same time keep away for speculations and false predictions. All HYIPs are good till today. Nobody knows about it tomorrow. Nobody and I mean nobody, not me, not this admin. PS has paid thus far, PS is good thus far. Tomorrow? I don't know. Anybody here who as much as tries to say that they know better about the future, are just jackasses looking for attention. If you have to talk about scam, talk about ProfitClicking where I didn't get my withdrawal out for two months, or WCA who are playing around with their smokescreens aka "web conference". Guys be truthful and save people who come here on this good site by exposing the real scams. Not imaginary ones.

    It appears that you have swallowed, hook, line, and sinker, the logical fallacy that paying equals legitimacy.
    Might I remind you that one of the hallmarks of a Ponzi scheme is that they do pay, and well, for the majority of their existence? This does not mean that they are honest or legal.
    If you are in Prosper With Integrity, and do not like that your personal information has been published here, please talk to these good people: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov http://www.ic3.gov http://www.fbi.gov

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Skeptic,

    Welcome to the forum! The Admins and Mods here keep the site clean and enforce the rules, but first and foremost we are posters and do feel free to express our opinions.

    HYIPs are scams, unsustainable and cannot over the long term pay out what they promise. I have no hesitation in expressing that as I have been exposing scams for many years. PS will go the way of all the HYIPs --- down the commode!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Skeptic,

    Welcome to the forum! The Admins and Mods here keep the site clean and enforce the rules, but first and foremost we are posters and do feel free to express our opinions.

    HYIPs are scams, unsustainable and cannot over the long term pay out what they promise. I have no hesitation in expressing that as I have been exposing scams for many years. PS will go the way of all the HYIPs --- down the commode!

    Soapboxmom
    Maybe. The homo-sapiens here have a tendency to rush to judgment and label everything a scam or ponzi, which is true in most cases. However, Profitable Sunrise is not a Ponzi. A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation.

    Profitable Sunrise (Inter Reef) has been doing bridge financing (the product/service) since 2009 offline. On 11-11-11,they went online and have completed three 170 day cycles, where individuals made a healthy daily return and received their principle back at expiry.

    2013 looks equally promising. When they reach 1.5 billion in loan dollars, the program will go Private. Those in will continue to make money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force
    The homo-sapiens here have a tendency to rush to judgment and label everything a scam or ponzi,
    EVERYTHING ?????

    We label "EVERYTHING" ???

    You really are new at this, aren't you, Myriad Force ???

    Have a look in the top left hand corner of your screen,

    see that ???

    Here, I'll help you out:



    It says: "realscam"

    We talk about "scams"

    we don't talk about "NOT scams"

    See how it works ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by skeptic
    Dear Sir,
    As an administrator, aren't you supposed to be neutral??
    No.

    any more questions ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    EVERYTHING ?????

    We label "EVERYTHING" ???

    You really are new at this, aren't you, Myriad Force ???

    Have a look in the top left hand corner of your screen,

    see that ???

    Here, I'll help you out:



    It says: "realscam"

    We talk about "scams"

    we don't talk about "NOT scams"

    See how it works ???

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post

    Not hard to see what is being pimped here. One would think that he/she would at least kinda scuff the toe of ones shoe in the dirt before trying to scam somebody.

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    Dear Sir,
    As an administrator, aren't you supposed to be neutral?? Myriad has his money invested in Profitable Sunrise. It's not your money. It is his money. So if he is getting paid, he is getting paid. What's your problem?? If you have money invested in PS and have lost it, let us know, and we will not invest in PS. I strongly believe that I should listen to people who have come out of a bad experience and refrain from investing. I do not believe in listening to people who say such and such is a scam, without having lost a penny in it. If there is anyone here who has invested in PS and lost money, let him talk and I will be the most humble person and walk away from PS. But on the other hand if you have not invested and just talking just because you happen to have a mouth or fingers to type, you warrant nobody's attention. Don't give that crap about " I dug deep and found out....". You found out nothing. People, just look around. I am very much in favor of this site and this admin who is doing a great service to people who might lose money. I respect that. But at the same time keep away for speculations and false predictions. All HYIPs are good till today. Nobody knows about it tomorrow. Nobody and I mean nobody, not me, not this admin. PS has paid thus far, PS is good thus far. Tomorrow? I don't know. Anybody here who as much as tries to say that they know better about the future, are just jackasses looking for attention. If you have to talk about scam, talk about ProfitClicking where I didn't get my withdrawal out for two months, or WCA who are playing around with their smokescreens aka "web conference". Guys be truthful and save people who come here on this good site by exposing the real scams. Not imaginary ones.
    In among all of that rationalization and justification, there's a very important lesson to be learned.

    Like it or not, there exists a increasingly large sub strata of society whose members genuinely believe it's OK to take advantage of others.

    Who genuinely do believe as long as "they get theirs", everybody else can go jump in the lake.

    IOW, when it comes to HYIP ponzis and the HYIP ponzi "industry" the Law of the Jungle is alive and well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Maybe. The homo-sapiens here have a tendency to rush to judgment and label everything a scam or ponzi, which is true in most cases. However, Profitable Sunrise is not a Ponzi. A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from the money paid by subsequent investors, rather than from profit earned by the individual or organization running the operation.

    Profitable Sunrise (Inter Reef) has been doing bridge financing (the product/service) since 2009 offline. On 11-11-11,they went online and have completed three 170 day cycles, where individuals made a healthy daily return and received their principle back at expiry.

    2013 looks equally promising. When they reach 1.5 billion in loan dollars, the program will go Private. Those in will continue to make money.

    Let's see...

    You've called yourself Ty Stewart Anderson, Paul Anderson, MichaelBoryAlis, and The Aqua Oracle, among other names.
    Your other websites mostly are based on Empower Network, such as http://www.empowernetworkconsultinggroup.com , http://www.empowernetworkchalet.com , http://www.empowernetworkfocusgroup.com , http://www.empowernetworkstudio.com , http://www.empowernetworkjuicing.com , http://www.empowernetworklady.com , etc.

    However, you also have such websites as http://www.gettingrichquicker.com , http://www.iwowweeme.com , http://www.autoxtenmf.com , http://www.cashtextsnews.com , http://www.greenfootglobalmf.com , and your book, http://www.theaquaoracle.com

    And just what, pray tell, is a "universal consulate general," Mr. Anderson?
    If you are in Prosper With Integrity, and do not like that your personal information has been published here, please talk to these good people: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov http://www.ic3.gov http://www.fbi.gov

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    Investment banker?
    Chairman?

    Seems to be some work history missing there for about 10 years.

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    There are certain things in life we all "know"

    We don't need "proof," the truth is self evident.

    We "KNOW" it's not a good thing to stick metal objects in light sockets.

    We "KNOW" we shouldn't jump out of planes without a parachute.

    We "KNOW" not to stick our hand in an alligators' mouth.

    We "KNOW" if it's on the Talkgold or MMG HYIP ponzi forums, it's not a legitimate business.

    Here's another self evident truth for new readers.

    We "KNOW" if Faith Sloan recommends it, then it's a HYIP ponzi.

    Faith Sloan doesn't "do" real businesses.



    Make up your own mind.

    Are you going to be the one who believes for once, out of all the thousands of HYIP ponzis she's recommended, THIS TIME Faith Sloan has got it right and Profitable Sunrise is a real business ??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    Let's see...

    You've called yourself Ty Stewart Anderson, Paul Anderson, MichaelBoryAlis, and The Aqua Oracle, among other names.
    Your other websites mostly are based on Empower Network, such as http://www.empowernetworkconsultinggroup.com , http://www.empowernetworkchalet.com , http://www.empowernetworkfocusgroup.com , http://www.empowernetworkstudio.com , http://www.empowernetworkjuicing.com , http://www.empowernetworklady.com , etc.

    However, you also have such websites as Gettingrichquicker.com , http://www.iwowweeme.com , www.autoxtenmf.com , www.cashtextsnews.com , www.greenfootglobalmf.com , and your book, www.theaquaoracle.com

    And just what, pray tell, is a "universal consulate general," Mr. Anderson?
    Evidently, a nerve has been struck. Based on your tone, I feel no need to bequeathe specificity on you, but I will for fun. Yes, we all dabble in a bit of this and that from time to time, somethings work, somethings don't. Because you are not able to dismantle the substance of Profitable Sunrise, you have done the predictable mortal thing, and are trying to subvert me personally... how fun. You should try the EnviroTabs at Greenfoot Global, they are an incredible product. Oh, and my book, The Aqua Oracle, the band Rush based their last few albums off of it's ideology. Yes, you see, back in 95 I approached them using the name Michael Alexander BoryAlis - General Executor of the New Earth Administration. My biological name is Ty Stewart Anderson, and I live with my cousin Paul.
    If you would like to email me, feel free to do so at universalconsulategeneral@gmail.com - I use that when dealing with dignataries such as yourself.
    Stay away from Empower Network, however, it was David Wood that was the genesis of me entering the world of network marketing.

    You missed my upcoming book - Listening Too Much.
    Anything else?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force
    genesis of me entering the world of network marketing.
    You're not "network marketing"

    You're doing what lazy, non talented get-rich-quickers like to pretend is network marketing, but isn't.
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    He is competing with Faith Sloane.

    Does he resort to the same low level cons as Faith? Look at this attempt to scam her fellow scammers.

    Quote Faith Sloane.

    "Make sure you see the username reneefsiler in the sponsor box before you join! If you do not see reneefsiler listed, Delete the sponsor name and type reneefsiler. Contact me so we can ensure you are a participant in our group so you can get the REAL SUNNY DEAL! Faith Sloan +1 800 670 3202
    Again, For more info or to sign up, click HERE!"

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    Here is a continuative for ya - feel free to follow me at The Rush Forum - I am the provocateur there known as The Antagonist. You silly cats should really stick with the thread here - Profitable Sunrise. Much fun though, watching you making desperate stretches and majoring on minors.

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    Christmas Letter from Roman Novak, founder of Profitable Sunrise:

    ProfitableSunrise – Merry Christmas!
    My Dear Friends,
    What a blessed time of the year! Obviously, the most popular time of the year for most of us. I love Christmas and I love everything about it.
    Many say that over the years Christmas became more commercialized. The true message of Christmas tends to be lost. But for me, December is the favorite month of the year.
    You can see how people change this month. Everyone seems to be in a totally positive mood. People start showing love and compassion towards each other. You can literally feel the Christmas Cheer is in the air.
    Even though corporations push hard to advertise their products, we still manage to find the time to think about what we can give or do for others. It may be that our modern times dictate the way how we show our love for each other, the essence of the Christmas spirit is still there.
    -=A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.=- John 13:34
    I believe that the joy and the great mood that come every year on the month of December in anticipation of the Christmas day are because we follow this commandment.
    Merry Christmas to You and Your Loved Ones!
    Roman Novak
    ProfitableSunrise Founder”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Christmas Letter from Roman Novak, founder of Profitable Sunrise:

    ProfitableSunrise – Merry Christmas!
    My Dear Friends,
    What a blessed time of the year! Obviously, the most popular time of the year for most of us. I love Christmas and I love everything about it.
    Many say that over the years Christmas became more commercialized. The true message of Christmas tends to be lost. But for me, December is the favorite month of the year.
    You can see how people change this month. Everyone seems to be in a totally positive mood. People start showing love and compassion towards each other. You can literally feel the Christmas Cheer is in the air.
    Even though corporations push hard to advertise their products, we still manage to find the time to think about what we can give or do for others. It may be that our modern times dictate the way how we show our love for each other, the essence of the Christmas spirit is still there.
    -=A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another.=- John 13:34
    I believe that the joy and the great mood that come every year on the month of December in anticipation of the Christmas day are because we follow this commandment.
    Merry Christmas to You and Your Loved Ones!
    Roman Novak
    ProfitableSunrise Founder”.
    To me, there is nothing more disgusting when people bring religion into scams.

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    To me, there is nothing more disgusting when people bring religion into scams.
    Maybe you seek to find a home here with others that have nothing better to do than spew their piss and vinegar, ESPECIALLY toward enties like Proftable Sunrise which has no empirical evidence of being a scam or ponzi.

    You are rebuked in the Name of Jesus Christ.

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