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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Maybe you seek to find a home here with others that have nothing better to do than spew their piss and vinegar, ESPECIALLY toward enties like Proftable Sunrise which has no empirical evidence of being a scam or ponzi.

    You are rebuked in the Name of Jesus Christ.
    As a supernatural being, I'm going to laugh at that.
    I've encountered new converts who, time and again, mistakenly thought that they could act in His authority without having a deep relationship with Him by which to channel divine power. It doesn't work that way.

    There's not a spark of blessing behind your rebuke, Ty. Argue all you want on behalf of mortal programs, but don't try to pull religion in, because all it does it make you look like an idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force
    no empirical evidence
    Not hard to guess who learned a new expression at school recently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    As a supernatural being, I'm going to laugh at that.
    I've encountered new converts who, time and again, mistakenly thought that they could act in His authority without having a deep relationship with Him by which to channel divine power. It doesn't work that way.

    There's not a spark of blessing behind your rebuke, Ty. Argue all you want on behalf of mortal programs, but don't try to pull religion in, because all it does it make you look like an idiot.
    Coming from someone that worships false idols, how can you not? lol.

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    I don't know about Piss but Vinegar is a very good cleaning solution so perhaps you might make use of both of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baylee View Post
    I don't know about Piss but Vinegar is a very good cleaning solution so perhaps you might make use of both of them.
    Piss ferments into lant, which used to be used for cleaning. Also to make ale stronger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    As a supernatural being, I'm going to laugh at that.
    I've encountered new converts who, time and again, mistakenly thought that they could act in His authority without having a deep relationship with Him by which to channel divine power. It doesn't work that way.

    There's not a spark of blessing behind your rebuke, Ty. Argue all you want on behalf of mortal programs, but don't try to pull religion in, because all it does it make you look like an idiot.
    What's worse than looking like an idiot, is being an idiot.

    I am not arguing for Profitable Sunrise, just laying out the facts.

    As Michael rebuked Satan in Jude 9, so also your assuming, which is locked in the lower levels of darkness, is Rebuked.

    Henry, your laughter is the laughter of a drowning man - a nervous defense mechanism.
    Yes, I have seen that with 'New Converts' as well.

    Don't let knowledge get in your way there, Henry...you should never assume anyones level of metaphysical illumination, especially those you don't know. Henry, I don't abide by Internet Nazi's, if I want to bring "religion" into it I will.

    Henry, tell us about your life with Jesus Christ, how did you meet Him? Tell us about your prayer life as a supernatural being? Are you baptized in the Holy Spirit and have you dedicated your life to Praying in the Spirit? You know how most Christians are, cold or lukewarm. They have the cart before the horse, like the world. Jesus said in Luke 24:49 - Don't go out until you have received power from on high.

    Henry, are you a universalist or a damnationist? I am not here selling my book, it would be casting pearls before swine. At the same time, if you want to start a fire with me, I will turn it up, and you will find your vacuous and shallow analysis, incinerated.

    Try me..
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    littleroundman, baylee, whip, and professor higgens...look, the homo-sapiens can't dismantle Profitable Sunrise, so they have to attack the one dismantling them with the true nature of things.
    Makes me hungry for a Steak Sandwich and a frosty one.

    Keep in mind, the topic at hand is Profitable Sunrise...
    Last edited by Myriad Force; 12-27-2012 at 05:45 AM.

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    Little mortal, I am not of Eve's line.

    When have you ever known a money-making program with dollar, cash, profit, or similar words in its' name to survive a brush with the court system?
    And considering that your reaction to my identifying who we were conversing with for the benefit of others, followed by a Godwin with invocation of the specter of Hitler, I do not think that you have a moral leg to stand on, Mr. Anderson.

    Now, consider the mathematical claims being made of percentages of return by the day, and recall what the secular courts have said about others that made such claims. Does 12DailyPro ring any bells? You might do well to learn the lessons of history and not repeat them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Not hard to guess who learned a new expression at school recently.
    Wrong again, there sure is alot of assuming here at Realscam. Empirical Evidence is the alliteration that has dismantled the naysayers of Profitable Sunrise - they have none.

    Isn't this fun? I love watching desperate people, especially when the administrators feel the need to interject their venom.
    Oh, I have not been around long...are we supposed to walk on egg-shells with the administrators here, lest we are banned
    from the 56,686th most visited website in the world today?. Whew!!

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    Is the sun going to appear tomorrow ????

    I have no "empirical proof" it will.

    But, it is, whether I can "prove" it or not.
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    Anyone from Profitable Sunrise who can provide any "empirical evidence" a 2.17% DAILY interest rate is possible WITHOUT being a HYIP ponzi ???

    Any time anyone has successfully offered a repeatable 2.17% DAILY interest rate in the history of the planet will do.
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    Anyone from Profitable Sunrise who can provide any "empirical evidence" a 2.17% DAILY interest rate is possible WITHOUT being a HYIP ponzi ???

    Any time anyone has successfully offered a repeatable 2.17% DAILY interest rate in the history of the planet will do.
    Gosh, it's real simple. Evidently you have not done your homework. As an administrator, you should know better, I guess that's why your existence has morphed to being an administrator at realscam.com -profound.

    This place is boring me and the bigotry is vomitory. I am going to leave now to where the air is clean.
    My final words to realscam.com are...

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    I wonder... if you flipped Profitable Sunrise around and viewed it differently, would the members still be as enthusiastic?

    Envision the money you put in as being a loan, and the company is paying you interest... at a rate so high that any nation in the world would call it usury. And if you were as truly close to Christ as you try to pretend, Ty/Myriad Force, you would know what he taught regarding paying interest on money. He did not approve of it.

    For that matter, recall the warnings against those who pray loudly in public for the sake of being seen praying.
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    So Profitable Sunrise has, according to you, been around as lenders since 2009. They are not registered, nor is Inter Reef, with the relevant financial authorites in the UK (and Inter Reef wasnt even registered as a company until Sept 2011) and it would appear the same applies in the US, how can they have been legally doing business in either of those countries since 2009? They are not registered as an investment company either. So what are they?

    Either they are legal and registered or they are not legal nor registered. I suggest the latter based on FACT. If you can provide verifiable evidence to the contrary it will be interesting to see it. (not empirical evidence, but FACTUAL evidence)




    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me View Post
    Ok - the parent company is registered in the UK - as follows

    "Company Summary
    Inter Reef Ltd is an Active business incorporated in England & Wales on 13th September 2011. Their business activity has not been recorded. Inter Reef Ltd is run by 1 current directors and 1 company secretary. It has no share capital. It is not part of a group. The company has not yet filed accounts. Inter Reef Ltd's Risk Score was amended on 15/09/2011.

    Profitable Sunrise is not registered as a company with the UK authorities, nor is it registered with the FSA (UK) or FINRA (US) which is a legal requirement to undertake any financial service business in either of those countries. (The UK company registration number claimed to be theirs is in fact false.) It is therefore not operating legally in the UK.

    All this information is easily available on the internet by the way.

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    Myriad Force, where are you? I asked you a question
    how can they have been legally doing business in either of those countries since 2009?
    Please answer the post, unless of course you don't know the answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Gosh, it's real simple. Evidently you have not done your homework. As an administrator, you should know better, I guess that's why your existence has morphed to being an administrator at realscam.com -profound.

    This place is boring me and the bigotry is vomitory. I am going to leave now to where the air is clean.
    My final words to realscam.com are...
    I did my homework and reported this "Scam" to the internet Crime Center

    Link:

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    Had to come back and share a recorded conference call with Roman Novak, founder of Profitable Sunrise which was conducted Dec 27th, 2012.
    Call 1-614-715-3900 Ext:864605# The weenies here that weakly proclaim that Profitable Sunrise is a scam, should have a listen. They might learn some things.

    Roman does calls from time to time to let the participants of Profitable Sunrise know how things are going, he is very open and has nothing to hide.
    So far so good. His largest investors are from Dubai and Asia. He stated that the 2.15% daily interest rate will last 2 to 5 years and that they are considering other sectors in the market place to implement into the program. Once the loan amount hits 1.5 to 2 billion, the doors will be closed to new participants.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Had to come back and share a recorded conference call with Roman Novak, founder of Profitable Sunrise which was conducted Dec 27th, 2012.
    Call 1-614-715-3900 Ext:864605# The weenies here that weakly proclaim that Profitable Sunrise is a scam, should have a listen. They might learn some things.

    Roman does calls from time to time to let the participants of Profitable Sunrise know how things are going, he is very open and has nothing to hide.
    So far so good. His largest investors are from Dubai and Asia. He stated that the 2.15% daily interest rate will last 2 to 5 years and that they are considering other sectors in the market place to implement into the program. Once the loan amount hits 1.5 to 2 billion, the doors will be closed to new participants.

    Oops. The area code above is turned around - the correct number is 1-641-715-3900 - Ext:864605#

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    Good lord, how easy is it to fool some people ??

    "Roman" said it, so it must be true.

    For Gods' sakes, man, you don't even know if "Roman" even exists.

    The fact "someone" recorded a conference call means abso-bloody-lutely nothing.

    Young Myriad must be one of the softest touches on the planet.

    Anyone could walk up to him on the street, claim to be an investment guru, promise to double his money and, he'd gladly hand it over.

    Some people ask why we let obvious pimps and shills continue to post on REALSCAM.com

    Why not ???

    The longer the 'Myriad Force" type shills of this world post, the more they expose their total ignorance for readers to see.

    "Roman said" my a**.
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    See, even fraudsters need a break at Christmas:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    @Myriad Force. I asked you a question in Post #64 on this thread. You're back and have avoided answering the question so far.

    It is of supreme indifference to me what you think might happen or what your leader claims will happen, if you are unable to verify the legal foundation on which this operation is operating. What is Profitable Sunrise licensed and registered to do in the UK, USA, Canada, EC and the rest of the world? The only thing verified so far is that they are NOT trading legally in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me View Post
    @Myriad Force. I asked you a question in Post #64 on this thread. You're back and have avoided answering the question so far.

    It is of supreme indifference to me what you think might happen or what your leader claims will happen, if you are unable to verify the legal foundation on which this operation is operating. What is Profitable Sunrise licensed and registered to do in the UK, USA, Canada, EC and the rest of the world? The only thing verified so far is that they are NOT trading legally in the UK.
    Evidently, you are not in the Loop. They are registered as Inter Reef, PS is only the umbrella company for members.
    ProfitableSunrise is under the umbrella of Inter Reef LTD. Company Check - Free company financial check on INTER REEF LTD. Registered number 07772083. Free company accounts. Companies House information


    Basic Information


    Company Status: Active

    Registration Date: 13/09/2011

    Registration Number: 07772083

    Type: Private Limited Company

    Registered Address

    CORNER CHAMBERS

    590A KINGSBURY ROAD

    BIRMINGHAM

    B24 9ND
    • Voice: 013525 059 949
    •Fax: 14072 648 855

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    They are registered as Inter Reef
    Immaterial. Recently busted Zeek was registered as a business entity, but not registered to sell securities. So was AdSurfDaily. So was Legisi.

    Profitable Sunrise says it pays more than any of those "programs." Zeek's Paul Burks currently is confronting court actions in three venues. ASD's Andy Bowdoin is in jail, and Legisi's Gregory McKnight faces up to 15 years when sentenced.

    As previously noted, Nicholas Cosmo is doing 25 years for his purported Agape World "bridge financing" program after his arrest in 2009. Court records show that he used some of the proceeds from his Agape scheme to pay restitution from a previous case (10 years earlier) in which he was convicted of mail fraud.

    After Cosmos was arrested for the Agape caper, four of his pitchmen were charged criminally:

    FBI — Former Agape World Inc. Account Representatives Charged in New York with Massive Ponzi Scheme

    From U.S. Attorney Loretta E. Lynch:

    “These defendants allegedly convinced thousands of men and women to part with their hard-earned money for what was supposed to be a safe investment. In reality, the investors were duped into investing in a classic Ponzi scheme. And when concerns were raised, the defendants only deepened the deception by selling bogus ‘insurance’ against the victimization that had already occurred. Today’s arrests demonstrate the Department of Justice’s commitment to aggressively prosecute individuals at all levels who knowingly participate in such schemes.”

    On a side note, Agape claimed to be a private bridge lender "since 1999." The trouble with that claim was that Cosmo was in federal prison until August 2000 for his first conviction.

    In the Pathway to Prosperity HYIP case, an expert hired by the U.S. government observed that "fraudulent commercial schemes are not noted for their internal consistency."

    And, of course, if you take the time to read court filings in the Pathway To Prosperity case, for just one example, you'll see that the purported returns offered by Profitable Sunrise are on par with the returns offered by P2P operator Nicholas Smirnow, who is listed by INTERPOL as a wanted fugitive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Roman does calls from time to time to let the participants of Profitable Sunrise know how things are going, he is very open and has nothing to hide. So far so good. His largest investors are from Dubai and Asia. He stated that the 2.15% daily interest rate will last 2 to 5 years and that they are considering other sectors in the market place to implement into the program. Once the loan amount hits 1.5 to 2 billion, the doors will be closed to new participants.
    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Profitable Sunrise will become a closed investment society at 1.5 billion
    One of the experts hired by the U.S. government to expose the P2P scam had this to say:

    "Another feature of high yield scams is a sense of exclusivity. This sense is honed to a high degree in multi level marketing programs".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Myriad Force View Post
    Evidently, you are not in the Loop. They are registered as Inter Reef, PS is only the umbrella company for members.
    ProfitableSunrise is under the umbrella of Inter Reef LTD. Company Check - Free company financial check on INTER REEF LTD. Registered number 07772083. Free company accounts. Companies House information


    Basic Information


    Company Status: Active

    Registration Date: 13/09/2011

    Registration Number: 07772083

    Type: Private Limited Company

    Registered Address

    CORNER CHAMBERS

    590A KINGSBURY ROAD

    BIRMINGHAM

    B24 9ND
    • Voice: 013525 059 949
    •Fax: 14072 648 855
    Myriad Force - can you not READ?

    (from post 64)

    So Profitable Sunrise has, according to you, been around as lenders since 2009. They are not registered, nor is Inter Reef, with the relevant financial authorites in the UK (and Inter Reef wasnt even registered as a company until Sept 2011) and it would appear the same applies in the US, how can they have been legally doing business in either of those countries since 2009? They are not registered as an investment company either. So what are they?
    The fact is that Inter Reef has a company registration with it's activity marked as "unknown" and has no share capital. Anyone can set up a shell company, but that doesn't make it a business. That does not permit them to participate legally in any loan or investment activity. For that they need additional registrations. In the UK this is the FSA. Neither Inter Reef nor Profitable Sunrise are registered or licensed by the FSA

    Please answer the question that was asked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by klagoosh View Post
    Has anyone here done any research on something called Profitable Sunrise?

    I have already warned a good friend away from it after going inside for a look. Like most of these things, it lays out a way for them to earn their incredibly high yields that is meant to sound possible.

    Sadly, the people behind this claim to be Christians, and like to throw in a Bible verse here and there to make it look nice (if you can possibly say there is ANYTHING nice looking about the horribly amateurish site.)

    If these people were making the money they are claiming to make with their "bridge loans," it would be usury of the loan shark kind....
    The "parent" company is Inter Reef LTD [GB].

    Here is how they are described by a member or customer, which is exactly what they claim in their private broadcasts (I listened to one) and any written material:

    "Their website is: Welcome to Profitable Sunrise! They are hard money lenders. Have been in business 8 years. They make loans from 5-20 days and 2-6 months. They charge 2.6%-3.0% daily, 5 days per week. Loans are usually secured. They take in "investor" money and pay a return of 1.6%-2.1% per day, compounding, 5 days per week. The earned interest can be taken out anytime, everyday. The principal has to remain in their fund for 170 to 180 days before being withdrawn and reinvested (if you choose to). Their security on the loan and investor money is insured in case of default. Their main bank is Baltikums Bank AS in Nicosia, Cyprus. Their Founder/CEO is Roman Novak; his brother Radislov Novak is the company attorney; their accountant is Ms. Ruth Ellington; their techhie is Nosuke Koyama. They put on a very "religious front" (which is always a red flag). I have several friends who have invested with them and they have been credited with interest payments daily. Thank You

    Read more: What is the street address and phone number for "Profitable - JustAnswer http://www.justanswer.com/fraud-examiner/72i86-street-address-phone-number-profitable.html#ixzz2DrTUqMS3"

    A member name that appears to be closely connected to the owners is Dr. Goddie Ude (http:// drgoddie .com/profitable-sunrise/ ).

    2% to 3% per day IS usury (and I thought my credit card companies were crooks!!) They are using STP, bank wire transfers (of course!!), EGO Pay, Liberty Reserve and Perfect Money for transactions.

    If you do a Google street level look at their "office," there's not much to see for a multi-million dollar enterprise.

    The website, profitable sunrise .com, is about as unprofessional as I've ever seen. Other sites owned by Roman Novak: Ice-dollar .com, Money Gator.net

    Anybody know if this is being investigated by law enforcement, yet?
    Have you asked this of any of your Adlandpro friends, seems many are involved?


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