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    Quote Originally Posted by Finix View Post
    Then there are people who come into financial jungle and start putting museum stickers on things. Those people are called naysayers.

    Then there is Eddie who tells us that naysayers are "a bunch of arrogant, patronizing, hypocritical pricks who simply beg to be taken down a peg or two now and again".

    Now that everything is labeled and described properly, all is well in this part of VR.
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    I'm not interested in helping to turn jungle into a museum. I'd much rather watch it the way it is.

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    Old NJF Conference call (Oct 24 2012) led by another NJF Member (David Steckel)

    He provided a lot of incriminating evidence on himself.

    MP3: https://ow-gwskha03.freeconferenceca...17-65-6773.mp3

    His contact details:
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by tcob View Post
    The scum that is appearing on Linkedin is beyond comprehension. Mathew Nunn was my latest find along with the worst spammer whom I have ever encountered on Adlandpro.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by intheknow View Post
    Even worse is the fact that Nanci Jo Frazer is still talking to "Roman" how stupid can Nanci actually be????
    Was that a rhetorical question? :)
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    I have seen several places where Nanci Jo has claimed to have personally talked to "Roman". If nothing else, she'll be talking to some investigators who will be wanting to know just who she was talking to. That's interesting, because she will either have to come up with a real person above her, or admit that she was just lying to the suckers to build up her perceived status.

    Which one is going to be easier for her to survive?

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    James L. Paris alerting about Profitable Sunrise on CBN News today:

    Money Editor: Sunrise Scheme Targets Christians - Finance - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by intheknow View Post
    Even worse is the fact that Nanci Jo Frazer is still talking to "Roman" how stupid can Nanci actually be????
    She's not stupid (well relatively) He's probably still paying his top people. She's getting paid. He would be stupid to not pay his top people. He is building a Team for his next scam. They will recycle the ones who are stupid to invest in Profitable Sunruse 2.0 or what ever they call it. Nancy recycled all the people she got into Zeekler and moved them onto PS to make their money back. Well, except for the really crabby complainers who didn't like losing money in Zeek.

    PROFITABLE SUNRISE IS UP AND RUNNING AND STILL PAYING OUT!!!!!!!!

    Well at least for Nancy and the top leaders.

    If you stick with her she'll have a new opportunity for you to invest in to make your money back.
    Just stay tuned :\

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    The [unofficial] tally of Investor Alerts or cease-and-desist orders on Profitable Sunrise in the United States and Canada now is up to 29:

    As of the time of this post, here is the list:

    In Canada: New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, Manitoba.

    In the United States: Kentucky, Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota, California, Indiana, New Mexico, Texas, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alaska, Maryland, Maine, New Jersey, Louisiana, Tennessee, Oregon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPBlog View Post
    The [unofficial] tally of Investor Alerts or cease-and-desist orders on Profitable Sunrise in the United States and Canada now is up to 29:

    As of the time of this post, here is the list:

    In Canada: New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, Manitoba.

    In the United States: Kentucky, Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota, California, Indiana, New Mexico, Texas, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alaska, Maryland, Maine, New Jersey, Louisiana, Tennessee, Oregon.

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    Make that 30: Missouri added minutes ago.

    In Canada: New Brunswick, Quebec, Ontario, British Columbia, Alberta, Manitoba.

    In the United States: Kentucky, Ohio, Florida, Wisconsin, Nevada, Minnesota, California, Indiana, New Mexico, Texas, Delaware, North Dakota, South Dakota, Alabama, North Carolina, South Carolina, Alaska, Maryland, Maine, New Jersey, Louisiana, Tennessee, Oregon, MISSOURI.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Was Nanci Jo using NJF or FUMI to promote Zeek or is that just a guess?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Was Nanci Jo using NJF or FUMI to promote Zeek or is that just a guess?
    not sure but she has 2 facebook pages on on this one : https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile....165982&fref=ts

    here is what she said on Aug 17, 2012:

    NEWS FROM NANCI...

    NOTICE: This Zeek is going through a BUSINESS AUDIT INQUIRY and will be offline for a few days. You can take a break from posting and enjoy the weekend.

    I hope you had a great week! Just want to give you a quick message that the Zeek Website will be offline for a North Carolina state auditing..

    I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT...

    Out of several millions of people who work with Zeek Rewards everyday... they have had ONLY EIGHT COMPLAINTS & 23 PEOPLE WHO INQUIRED ABOUT THEM through the State of north Carolina!! That is awesome!!

    The State did not have any information on file about Zeek and therefore (just as with any business) has requested a type of "audit" to be able to better inform the public and make sure Zeek is running a compliant operation.

    They have been presented with a list of questions they need to answer so that the State office can review them and better inform the public. Like in most business audits where no information is yet presented... will require that the business be closed to the public during this period. Usually there is a list of questions list to be answered. When the answers are turned in and then they will be reviewed for approval. This is great for us as we will be able to share that they have been reviewed & approved for their business practices.

    ALL companies having such rapid growth will cause interest and curiosity about why they are growing so fast. This is normal business.

    Zeek has the top three mlm law firms on retainer to make sure they are on top of their game at all times. That is a big reason why I decided to go with them as I knew one day somebody would become curious as to their huge success. PS Some of the inquiries were just parents making sure that Zeek was okay for their kids to participate! (lol)

    We all have been sooo blessed and highly favored to have this opportunity to profit share with a company that is exploding.

    I will keep you posted. oh Great news... Zeek is about to provide us with a much better Money Transport System for buying bids and getting paid. I would not be surprised if they might be launching a Zeek Debit Card. That would be awesome.

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    Breaking News!

    New Profitable Sunrise Training Video!

    That's how they do it...now I am clear





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    Quote Originally Posted by Merchant of Truth View Post
    Breaking News!
    Old news, tcob already posted the link to this video awhile back.

    BTW, there were 22 private groups in PS altogether. NJF was only one of them, albeit the largest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Was Nanci Jo using NJF or FUMI to promote Zeek or is that just a guess?
    She was using NJF. FUMI is just the entry to become a member of NJF. But she was promoting PS on both sites before she did her sanitizing of her websites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by intheknow View Post
    not sure but she has 2 facebook pages on on this one : https://www.facebook.com/#!/profile....165982&fref=ts

    here is what she said on Aug 17, 2012:

    NEWS FROM NANCI...

    NOTICE: This Zeek is going through a BUSINESS AUDIT INQUIRY and will be offline for a few days. You can take a break from posting and enjoy the weekend.

    I hope you had a great week! Just want to give you a quick message that the Zeek Website will be offline for a North Carolina state auditing..

    I AM HAPPY TO REPORT THAT...

    Out of several millions of people who work with Zeek Rewards everyday... they have had ONLY EIGHT COMPLAINTS & 23 PEOPLE WHO INQUIRED ABOUT THEM through the State of north Carolina!! That is awesome!!

    The State did not have any information on file about Zeek and therefore (just as with any business) has requested a type of "audit" to be able to better inform the public and make sure Zeek is running a compliant operation.

    They have been presented with a list of questions they need to answer so that the State office can review them and better inform the public. Like in most business audits where no information is yet presented... will require that the business be closed to the public during this period. Usually there is a list of questions list to be answered. When the answers are turned in and then they will be reviewed for approval. This is great for us as we will be able to share that they have been reviewed & approved for their business practices.

    ALL companies having such rapid growth will cause interest and curiosity about why they are growing so fast. This is normal business.

    Zeek has the top three mlm law firms on retainer to make sure they are on top of their game at all times. That is a big reason why I decided to go with them as I knew one day somebody would become curious as to their huge success. PS Some of the inquiries were just parents making sure that Zeek was okay for their kids to participate! (lol)

    We all have been sooo blessed and highly favored to have this opportunity to profit share with a company that is exploding.

    I will keep you posted. oh Great news... Zeek is about to provide us with a much better Money Transport System for buying bids and getting paid. I would not be surprised if they might be launching a Zeek Debit Card. That would be awesome.
    Your link now resolves to her CURRENT facebook page, created on August 19, 2012. It took me a minute to figure it out, but it looks like her OLD facebook page was so, mmmm, incriminating? that she just rejoined under a new e-mail and thought she had effectively wiped her old one. Someone tell her that the internet never forgets. I don't have the time right now but I'm wondering if she also had a video library about Zeek comparable to the one she built up for "Pro-Sun" that she also tried to expunge.

    The more I learn about this pseudo-christian ref whore the more I don't like her. And she's in Ohio, where I have a people who know people etc.... start saving up for Prison Nanci Jo, this isn't going to end well for you.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Well, scratch that, I made a mistake in her join date, it was April, not August. Still, I do wonder how much sanitizing she did when Zeek collapsed and if she got a clawback letter from the receiver.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Well, a little digging and checking later, as someone else has already said: the EIN I posted for FUMI actually belongs to United Senior Services of Springfield and Clark County, Ohio, Inc. If anyone wants to donate to a REAL charity, their website is United Senior Services You can also find there contact information to call and let them know Nanci Jo is pimping her scam with their EIN which if nothing else could come back to haunt them on their legitimate tax returns (in IRS records it will show as a donation to them that they didn't report, and could cause them to be audited)
    If you do call, and I encourage you to, please take the time to give them a donation, if just $5 or so, I hope they raise 15 kinds of hell about it but taking a bunch of calls isn't their mission and the least we can do is help them out a little for their time. Just a thought.
    I also cannot find where I got that EIN from in the first place, if anyone can dig it up on wayback or something I'd appreciate it, I know I got it from one of the NJF websites, or the FUMI ones, and I'm pretty sure the reason I can't find it now is that it's been taken down.
    I also plan on spending a day bending the ears of some people I know in Ohio government, I know quite a few through connections I've made living here my whole life and from school. I got peeps, count on it, or ask Brad H whatever his name was.....

    I admit it, I'm not a nice person, but this one is local and has about 15 of the nasty things that just piss me off, so I'm gonna devote a little effort to making Nanci Jo a very unhappy camper, hopefully at a prison camp.... sorry, but ripping people off with religion and cheating on your taxes, while falsifying yourself as a charity is just the "piss me off trifecta" and I just have to do it.

    And to think, I really wasn't too interested in this one in the beginning.....

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    and I claim trademark protection on the phrase "piss me off trifecta" that's just clever, iddinit?

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    About-Us~~element58.jpg

    For the love of Bob, can you believe this silly dingbat STILL has this up on the "non profit" website?

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    According to those on tonight's conference call, this was announced, and I quote from a post at MMG:

    FACEBOOK UPDATE OF PS :

    *** Tonights Call High-Lights =) ***
    Here are my notes for the same call... Hope this helps !
    Call by Mike Artis and Tony

    Conference call Summary:

    We are ALL GOOD!!!

    This is based on several calls within the last 24 hours with people I've spoken to... whom spoke with Roman.

    We are about to go back up Are servers are up... all 6 main servers are working...

    New website will be similar and all our accounts will be with in new site.

    Easter gift is good ! Best guess is some time this weekend by Sunday night... Before Monday compounding starts.

    We will be called a Private International Business Community, with a new definition as to how we represent ourself.

    Servers are in two very safe places to address security issues Hong Kong is the safest places to be!

    Chatter about negative info on us is wrong... We haven't done anything wrong and we are changing to comply.

    Roman is making it better, give him credit...

    Lots of rumors are impacting a really good people There are no facts or evidence we are not doing anything wrong. We are not selling securities. We are a group of individuals with strong values and purpose. We are not going to be pushed around or bullied by media Gurus.

    Expect more restrictions with in company...

    These corrections that are currently taking place have already been in the works, prior to the issues at hand.

    Let's look forward to this weekend and the new web-site. Next weeks Confrence call, we can compare notes of the new system. Again, all is good !

    Profitable Sunrise is not falling apart... Or taken down...

    Look forward to a promising future

    Bank wire will be the only way to transfer funds... We'll see when sight is back up about E currency options.

    Where are our funds? Funds are in loans and how the interest is paid out.

    What about Easter Gift?
    Easter Gift will be in available balance.

    They are also working on E-check system

    Interest will be paid for all banking days we were off line.

    May be changing name... because no advertising allowed and to avoid all adds and banners that are currently out there already.

    Empty accounts may be gone...
    Won't know until site is back up.


    Wonder what the excuse will be when none of this happens?
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    How frustrating it is trying to reason with people in this scheme! In a discussion with the person who tried pitching it to me a few weeks ago, they told me that the website would be back up in 36 - 48 hours. Then when that didn't happen, they said it was 36 - 48 BUSINESS hours and would be back up lunchtime today. Site still down. Now it's going to be Monday. My husband upset this person by saying well obviously they chose their target group wisely, Christianity : 2000 years of "any day now".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg
    sorry, but ripping people off with religion and cheating on your taxes, while falsifying yourself as a charity is just the "piss me off trifecta" and I just have to do it.
    Unfortunately for the apparent large amount of Christian Profitable Sunrise victims, they're about to find out HYIP ponzi fraudsters consider Christians make BETTER victims than the general population.

    * Christians are generally more trusting

    * Christians are DEFINITELY more susceptible to Christianity based affinity fraud.

    * By definition, Christians are far more likely to "turn the other cheek" than they are to retaliate.

    * Christians are far less likely to report their losses to any of the authorities, for fear of putting their faith under the spotlight of being publicly ridiculed.

    * Post HYIP ponzi collapse, Christians find themselves in a double bind.

    Just where did those prayers go ??
    Was their God really involved ??
    If they admit it was all a fraud, does that mean their God is also a fraud ??
    For many, their entire core belief system has been challenged.

    The fact self proclaimed "Christian luminaries" of the Nanci Jo Frazer type is involved leads to even more questioning of the whole Christian ethos by which they live.

    As has often been said, there's a whole lot more damage caused by HYIP ponzi fraud than "just" monetary loss.
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    If they ever were in doubt, Jesus didn't bother himself with money matters and recommended they don't either.

    For those who haven't noticed the backdrop on PS at the earlier time - it was a statue of Christ the Redeemer in Rio.

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Christians are generally more trusting
    How would you know? You are an atheist. It's a stereotype created by people who didn't bother reading the bible. Jesus recommended for his followers to be "wise as serpents".

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