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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Just in case anyone is wondering where some of their money went:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post


    ROMAN NOVAK
    Do we have confirmation that this is the "Roman Novak"?I think it is best no not jump the gun here .

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    That's the pic doing the rounds of the 'net ATM.

    It was purposely posted as is, with no added comments, the same as the Nanci Jo Frazer info.

    As the REALSCAM.com logo says:



    YOU decide
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nancetta View Post
    Anytime 'Amanda' aka Quicksilver is 'defending an 'Admin' she is in 'the know' with them...

    BTW...where, oh where, is 'Deborah' Amanda's sidekick who was so LOUD about PS? Methinks she is in deep with a certain 'group'....seems 'Deborah' aka heartworth9 is MIA all of a sudden.....Things that make you go.....hmmm....
    I still stand that they are making all this **** up ("Roman" is not in touch with any of them:))

    about Amanda, it is pointless to even listen what she says, she damn well knows the game is over, just saving her face so she can pimp the next scams as a way to recover money.
    Last edited by NikSam; 03-23-2013 at 02:33 AM.

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    That's how real "Bridge Loan" collectors operate, even that the scene is from 1988 Russian movie, the realities are still the same:





    I am not implying that "Roman" operates the same way, he is just a HYIP Admin who made people to buy the story. But if he was doing those crazy loan rates that's the only way to collect on them.
    Last edited by NikSam; 03-23-2013 at 05:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    This just in, Roman Novak is Dead. It was a horrible accident, he was counting the money needed to pay the Easter bonus and decided to put the cash in a safe place while he took a brief nap. Well we all know Roman's near magic ability to make money multiply, sadly enough for him it even works while he sleeps:

    Attachment 3422
    If they try that one it will beat dengue fever hands down as the most original HYIP excuse yet.

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    I just saw the new reason Profitable Sunrise can't send you your money.

    This is from Global Impact Resource Alliance Group Frontpage
    INSIDE SCOOP
    WE ARE ALL WAITING FOR SERVER MIGRATION TO BE COMPLETE- HOPEFULLY TODAY! NEXT IS THE CONNECTING TO THE WEBSITE. WE WILL SEE WHAT IT ALL LOOKS LIKE SOON! KEEP IN MIND THE BANKS ARE FROZEN IN EUROPE... We cannot email support until it is back online to be advised as to the decisions of their Legal Team as to the function of their website in relation to those states and countries requesting registration. We are confident Mr. Novak will keep his word on all things as he always has thus far.

    KEEP IN MIND THE BANKS ARE FROZEN IN EUROPE... The banks are NOT frozen in Europe, there are frozen in the Tiny Isle of Cyprus. That situation is being resolved and will be taken care of.

    This will be the next thing they they will tell their investors even if the server comes back up.

    Here is a link to a post I made yesterday in James Paris's blog:James L. Paris Christian Financial Advice: Profitable Sunrise: Christians Hope To Cash In

    On the Zeekler deal Nancy Frazer still tells the ppl who lost money that Zeekler was shut down because some parents of college students complained and got it shut down. She also says that North Carolina decided Zeekler wasn't a Ponzi and that they are suing and starting back up.

    It's a good thing that Lyn with Realscam.com and Jim with Christian Money are here. Otherwise the PS Group could feed their followers and BS they wanted and not be called on it.

    If I can help one person from being sucked into this crap I will

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    Does anyone have the password to the NJF Global site. I am trying to look at the two new pages they just added.

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    Here's Nanci Jo Frazer's latest message to her flock this morning:

    PROFITABLE SUNRISE Latest update March 23 2013


    Here is our latest update

    -- it's a LONG one, but maybe it will help you :

    We were very excited to learn this week that the ProSun website domain was purchased by someone in China. We believe that this person / business might be one of Roman's customers.

    New Bank:
    ... Due to the increasing problems with the Czechoslovakia bank, Roman's Chinese client is helping Roman move to a Hong Kong bank.
    Roman is working on a debit card and a e-checking system to facilitate withdrawals.
    We understand that only bank wires might be allowed for withdrawals.

    Servers:
    He and told us that he was going to be upgrading, since our old servers were totally maxed out.
    Roman moved the servers to Hong Kong in order to protect us and ProSun.
    The servers are safe, and our data is safe.
    The 36 - 48 hours sent out by a support person referred to 8-hour business days.
    We expect the servers to be up and running very soon.
    One leader recently posted that the servers would be up late Sunday night, but we have not been able to verify that with Roman.

    New Website:
    We understand that the current programs in place will remain the same.
    Roman plans to introduce new programs after the Easter Gift has been issued.
    We heard this afternoon that the website release has been delayed a bit because Roman is address several security issues from the original website: 1) Hackers can easily reset your passwords; 2) you all of a sudden cannot log in; 3) no double opt-in for secret words, 4) no second confirmation for email address etc.
    We believe that Roman will protect our Available cash.
    Double opt ins when you sign up.
    Possible new name and different business structure.
    We may or may not have daily benefits accruing during down time. We truly believe that the daily benefits have been calculated.



    During a recent interview Nanci conducted with Roman, Roman commented on the following:

    Investors:
    Roman told us recently that his loan portfolio is now 600 million. Our total group participation represents only 5% of his total loan portfolio! Meaning, he doesn't need us to do his business, but he wants to help us, bless us. This is why we are considered to be his charitable arm.
    We were never allowed to be an investor. Investors needed 200-500K. They were not part of a group, but were friends of his, who became co-owners.
    We are not co-owners. The other 95% who are investors are the only co-owners.
    Some states now refer to Roman's activity as a violation of SEC rules and regulations. Therefore, the program model that we have seen in the past might not function in the same way when the new website is released.

    Loans Applications:
    95% of the loan applications they receive are rejected.
    The #1 reason: Roman doesn't know them.
    people who has referred people he knows will receive loans.The only people who can apply are

    Depositors:
    Roman will not meet with anyone who has not put in 100K.
    Roman's investors have to be approved before the meeting

    Clients / Borrowers:
    Working with a big manufacturer in Asia as client for one of his bridge loans.
    The Long Haul was formed to create stability.
    Only has had 2 defaults in the past year.
    Verification takes only 2 to 3 days.
    Support:
    Roman currently has 120 support staff - 70 for loans, 50 for PS.
    He will be tripling the support staff in the next few weeks, so that he can better serve us.
    The must have their high school bachelors masters degree, and speak up to five languages
    Roman will be assigning 3 dedicated account managers for our community. This should help us resolve our outstanding community problems quickly.
    When the website comes up, we ask that only those with outstanding issues email support. All others, please wait 48 hours before you send them an email to allow for the support staff to catch up.
    Our own support team will have the right to refuse to help you if your behavior is unbecoming or demanding.



    God bless,

    NJF

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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    she also sent this info out to her flock this morning as well:

    News Update: Who is Agnes & who cares?

    Was Agnes Jouanneau:
    1. Roman Novak's Wife?
    2. Roman Novak's Girlfriend?
    3. Roman's Business Advisor?
    Answer is #3

    Was Agnes Jouanneau:
    1. The Secretary on the Board?
    2. The Director & 1% shareholder
    3. An Arms Dealer Consultant
    Answer is #2

    Is this lady Agnes to the right? No

    Is Roman a Woman? No

    Global Impact
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    Agnes Jouanneau has become a name that is popping up throughout the internet by some of the cyber stalkers: This group can include: James Paris... Lynn Edgington and another site using the name Patrick but everybody thinks that is really Lynn pretending to be a cross dresser again, (no I mean taking on somebody else's identity) to make up the scam of the day. This lady is actually Mr. Lynn below. (Just kidding).

    Anyway, Agnes was contracted by Roman Novak to help him get his company Inter Reef , Ltd incorporated. Roman has to have a citizen of the country be on his board as he was not from the UK where the Company was registered. The address everyone refers to in Birmingam, England, is required to be there as the corporate address for all companies she registers, as she is the UK Citizen and Director representing each company. None of the company owners are at that address as that is never a company's headquarters. This information comes from Roman & research.

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    IN THE SUPREME COURT OF SEYCHELLES

    AGNES JOUANNEAU …................................................. ...................PETITIONER
    VERUS

    SEYCHELLES INTERNATIONAL BUSINESS AUTHORITY ….................RESPONDENT

    Civil Side No 90 of 2010

    Mr. Frank Ally for the Petitioner
    Mr. Wilby Lucas for the Respondent

    B. Renaud J
    RULING
    Application under Rule 12(1) of the Supreme Court (Supervisory Jurisdiction over Subordinate Courts, Tribunals and Adjudicating Authority) Rules

    This Application was entered on 16th March, 2010.

    The Petitioner is an employee of Lotus Holding Company Limited, a company incorporated under the Companies Act, 1972, of Seychelles, (hereinafter "Lotus Holding"), which carries on business as an international corporate service provider (hereinafter "ICSP") under the International Corporate Service Providers Act (hereinafter "ICSP Act"). An ICSP provides international corporate services, i.e. renders services connected with the formation, management or administration of a specified entity as defined in the ICSP Act.
    The Respondent is a body corporate established under the Seychelles International Business Authority Act, 1994.

    Lotus Holding, as an ICSP, and its employees are regulated by the Respondent in terms of the ICSP Act.

    The Respondent has originally determined the Petitioner to be a "fit and proper person" under the ICSP Act.

    By letter of 15th January, 2010, addressed to Lotus Holding the Respondent removed the Petitioner's "fit and proper" status under the ICSP Act. Prior to the issue of that letter, the Respondent's had on 12th January, 2010, addressed a letter to the Petitioner requesting her to clarify her position and that of Lotus Holding vis-a-vis the content of a series of publications within the public domain which appear to relate to the Petitioner's directorships on a number of companies.

    On 14th January, 2010, Lotus Holding replied to the Respondent's letter of 12th January, 2010, stating the position of the Petitioner and Lotus Holding.

    The presence of the Petitioner at the Office of the Respondent was initiated by a verbal request by Officer(s) of the Respondent inviting the Petitioner for a friendly chat. The Respondent's Officers and the Petitioner met on the 14th January, 2010, to discuss the said publications.
    The publications referred to by the Respondent in its letter of 12 January, 2010, to the Petitioner, relates to articles published in the Dominion Post, a newspaper published in New Zealand, in relation to SP Trading, a New Zealand company which was allegedly involved in an arms scandal. In that article the Petitioner was obiter referred to as a person who holds the directorship in 338 companies incorporated in New Zealand.

    In matters that come before this Court for Judicial Review, this Court is not concerned so much as to what decision the adjudicating authority took but, how the decision was reached. It is the process of the decision-making which is therefore reviewed.
    In this instant matter, having had the benefit of reviewing and comparing the contents of the Affidavits of the parties and having heard the submissions made by Learned Counsel of the respective parties, I will now proceed to make my findings and determination.

    I find that the Respondent's decision in removing the "fit and proper7' status of the Petitioner was procedurally improper and that finding is for good reasons including the following: -

    1. The Petitioner was not given an opportunity to be heard or allowed sufficient time to prepare herself to respond to any complaint in that the Petitioner was requested by the Respondent to attend a meeting at extremely short notice called for the same day.
    2.The Petitioner was not given a full opportunity to be heard and to defend herself against any complaint regarding the discharge of her duties as an employee of Lotus Holding.
    3.The Respondent failed to form any complaint regarding the Petitioner's performance as an employee of Lotus Holding.
    4.The Respondent took irrelevant matters and incorrect facts or baseless allegations into considerations to arrive at its decisions specially that the Petitioner was associated with SP Trading, when no such association exists and was proven.
    The Respondent failed to conduct a thorough inspection of Lotus Holding's control systems and procedures, as required by law, before removing the Petitioner's fit and proper status.
    2.If after the meeting the Respondent was of the opinion that Lotus Holding's control systems and procedures were deficient the Respondent should have conducted an investigation or make a formal complaint to the Petitioner or Lotus Holding, which would have been replied thereto.

    I also find that the Respondent's decision in removing the "fit and proper" status of the Petitioner was unreasonable and that finding is for good reasons including the following: -
    1. The decision of the Respondent is based on an article published in a New Zealand newspaper which incorrectly and without any proof linked the Petitioner with SP Trading a company involved in an alleged arms scandal.
    2. The decision of the Respondent was also based on the facts that the Petitioner is a director of several companies incorporated in New Zealand which are have not been shown to be either subject to the ICSP Act and any other laws, or is an illegal act in New Zealand.
    3. The Respondent had no cogent evidence that the Petitioner has committed any wrong doing to warrant her removal of fit and proper status, or that she is not a fit and proper person under the ICSP Act, or still, that she is unfit or has become unfit as a result of the finding that the Petitioner is the director of several companies or that renders her unfit or unable to discharge her duties as a member of staff of Lotus Holding for the latter to provide international corporate services under the ICSP Act.
    4. The Respondent had no cogent evidence that the Petitioner being a director of several companies in New Zealand has contravened the laws of New Zealand or that of any other country (including Seychelles) and if she has, the Respondent has failed to substantiate such; or that Lotus Holding' clients' interest are threatened; or the Petitioner is unable to manage and administer the companies.
    5. The Respondent conceded that the petitioner is possibly not the only fit and proper person under the ICSP Act who holds directorship in such number of companies in that if it is illegal or improper for a fit and proper person under the ICSP Act to be a director on any specific number of companies the Respondent as a regulator should have requested that every such person declare the number of directorship or run an obligatory questionnaire for all ICSP in this respect.
    6. The principal facts on which the Respondent based its decision to remove the Petitioner's fit and proper status, are not necessarily facts that the Respondent as the Authority under the ICSP Act acting reasonably and judiciously could have reached.
    7. The Respondent had no cogent evidence or any finding that Lotus Holding has contravened the ICSP Act for the Respondent to remove the Petitioner's fit and proper status.
    8. The Respondent took into consideration irrelevant consideration and incorrect or unsupported allegations to arrive at its decisions specially that the Petitioner is associated with SP Trading, when in fact it could not be shown that the Petitioner had any relationship whatsoever or at all with SP Trading. At best, she was referred to in the article to show how New Zealand law permits one person to be a director in several companies (which has an open registry as opposed to a closed registry like the Seychelles' registry).

    9. The Petitioner's failure to state at the meeting the exact number of companies on which she is a director ought not to have warranted the removal of the Petitioner's fit and proper status, for reasons earlier stated above in the light of how the meeting was convened.

    10.The conclusions arrived by the Respondent regarding the Petitioner's inability and incompetence to manage and administer the companies of which she is a director are unsupported by reasonable evidence and were not subject to any thorough investigation.

    I further find that the Respondent's decision in removing the "fit and proper" status of the Petitioner was illegal, and that finding is for good reasons including the following: -

    1. The Petitioner has not contravened any of the provisions of the ICSP Act especially the provisions set out in the Code of Practice for Licensees under the ICSP Act.
    2. It is not illegal in Seychelles or outside Seychelles for any person to be a director of any number of companies otherwise the relevant laws or the Respondent as the regulator would have set out a specific number.
    3. The Respondent failed to conduct a thorough inspection of Lotus Holding's control systems and procedures, as required by law, before removing the Petitioner's fit and proper status.
    4. In any event there was no finding that Lotus Holding has contravened the ICSP Act for the Respondent to remove the Petitioner's fit and proper status.
    5. The Respondent's decision has no legal basis.

    I find that the Petitioner made this Application in good faith and that she has sufficient interest in the matter as the decision of the Respondent has been made against the Petitioner and her status under the ICSP Act and, in my view she is substantially aggrieved by it.

    On the basis of my findings enumerated above, it is my judgment that a Writ of Certiorari ought to be issued in the circumstances of this case. I accordingly issue forthwith a Writ of Certiorari quashing the decision of the Respondent to remove the status of the Petitioner as "fit and proper" under the ICSP Act.

    I award cost o the Petitioner.

    B. RENAUD
    JUDGE
    Dated this 29th day of July 2011

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    Unbelievable garbage. Anyone that believes this really needs to get examined.

    Quote Originally Posted by intheknow View Post
    Here's Nanci Jo Frazer's latest message to her flock this morning:

    PROFITABLE SUNRISE Latest update March 23 2013


    Here is our latest update

    -- it's a LONG one, but maybe it will help you :

    We were very excited to learn this week that the ProSun website domain was purchased by someone in China. We believe that this person / business might be one of Roman's customers.

    New Bank:
    ... Due to the increasing problems with the Czechoslovakia bank, Roman's Chinese client is helping Roman move to a Hong Kong bank.
    Roman is working on a debit card and a e-checking system to facilitate withdrawals.
    We understand that only bank wires might be allowed for withdrawals.

    Servers:
    He and told us that he was going to be upgrading, since our old servers were totally maxed out.
    Roman moved the servers to Hong Kong in order to protect us and ProSun.
    The servers are safe, and our data is safe.
    The 36 - 48 hours sent out by a support person referred to 8-hour business days.
    We expect the servers to be up and running very soon.
    One leader recently posted that the servers would be up late Sunday night, but we have not been able to verify that with Roman.

    New Website:
    We understand that the current programs in place will remain the same.
    Roman plans to introduce new programs after the Easter Gift has been issued.
    We heard this afternoon that the website release has been delayed a bit because Roman is address several security issues from the original website: 1) Hackers can easily reset your passwords; 2) you all of a sudden cannot log in; 3) no double opt-in for secret words, 4) no second confirmation for email address etc.
    We believe that Roman will protect our Available cash.
    Double opt ins when you sign up.
    Possible new name and different business structure.
    We may or may not have daily benefits accruing during down time. We truly believe that the daily benefits have been calculated.



    During a recent interview Nanci conducted with Roman, Roman commented on the following:

    Investors:
    Roman told us recently that his loan portfolio is now 600 million. Our total group participation represents only 5% of his total loan portfolio! Meaning, he doesn't need us to do his business, but he wants to help us, bless us. This is why we are considered to be his charitable arm.
    We were never allowed to be an investor. Investors needed 200-500K. They were not part of a group, but were friends of his, who became co-owners.
    We are not co-owners. The other 95% who are investors are the only co-owners.
    Some states now refer to Roman's activity as a violation of SEC rules and regulations. Therefore, the program model that we have seen in the past might not function in the same way when the new website is released.

    Loans Applications:
    95% of the loan applications they receive are rejected.
    The #1 reason: Roman doesn't know them.
    people who has referred people he knows will receive loans.The only people who can apply are

    Depositors:
    Roman will not meet with anyone who has not put in 100K.
    Roman's investors have to be approved before the meeting

    Clients / Borrowers:
    Working with a big manufacturer in Asia as client for one of his bridge loans.
    The Long Haul was formed to create stability.
    Only has had 2 defaults in the past year.
    Verification takes only 2 to 3 days.
    Support:
    Roman currently has 120 support staff - 70 for loans, 50 for PS.
    He will be tripling the support staff in the next few weeks, so that he can better serve us.
    The must have their high school bachelors masters degree, and speak up to five languages
    Roman will be assigning 3 dedicated account managers for our community. This should help us resolve our outstanding community problems quickly.
    When the website comes up, we ask that only those with outstanding issues email support. All others, please wait 48 hours before you send them an email to allow for the support staff to catch up.
    Our own support team will have the right to refuse to help you if your behavior is unbecoming or demanding.



    God bless,

    NJF

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    Since it is now Monday morning in Hong Kong, the servers are now "supposed" to be in Hong Kong, so where's the website? They did say Monday morning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Since it is now Monday morning in Hong Kong, the servers are now "supposed" to be in Hong Kong, so where's the website? They did say Monday morning.
    But did they say which Monday morning? ;)
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    But did they say which Monday morning? ;)

    LOL, The ninth Monday of the first full week in April. Makes HYIP Sense to me.

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    As hard as it may be to understand, should the website come back up anytime soon, some members will take it as a sign everything is OK and send "Roman" more money.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    As hard as it may be to understand, should the website come back up anytime soon, some members will take it as a sign everything is OK and send "Roman" more money.
    Sad but true, they've "programed in" a 15 day delay on bank wire cash outs so even if they opened up today it would still take about three weeks before people realized that the "Easter Present" was just an April Fool's joke and in that time the rumors of the 7% per day deal could attract some fresh investments. I feel strange for saying this but times like this the "live to see another day" serial pimps actually form some sort of buffer. THEY know the goose is cooked and THEY know that anyone making a "test spend" in PS on their recommend from this point on will be lost to them for their next scheme. Only the greediest and most short sighted pimps will be whoring out their downline to Pro Sun from now on and those people defeat themselves. Please understand that nothing in that previous sentence in any way should be taken to imply that I believe Nanci Jo Frazer wont be encouraging her now closed group from "increasing the amount of their assets that they rent to Roman for charitable purposes."
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    I just cannot believe that they continue to put this kind of info out. What makes it harder to believe is that people believe it! Just shaking my head in utter disbelief!

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    Even though this is toast, I can't believe the members are buying this BS that bank wires take 15 days to clear.
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    Re: Profitable Sunrise HYIP - Has anybody dug through it yet?

    There are some cynical, cold hearted people out there. Here is a blog which pretends to be from Roman Novak:

    Change news


    Dear partners! For the past 24 hours, we received more than 16000 applications for the restoration of the user account, our operators work like this can be done quickly. We also apply for a license for the right of the investment fund, the planned work was not prosecuted by law.
    We will open a site, once settled all laws right and finish the work to restore the user database.
    Migration can take much time than we were expecting. At the present day restored 16% user base with active deposits.
    We all say that there will be changes in investment plans, our marketers operate in this direction only at improving conditions. Currently, all accrual is limited to 1.5% per day at a time off the site and added to a primary interest. This is a necessary measure.
    We have to just be a closed society for new investors, because achieving a sufficient amount of investment required for the smooth operation of the Fund. All users with active deposits will be restored and incorporated into a new private fund.
    Follow my blog.
    Thank you for your patience and good feedback our support fund. Thank you for your confidence.
    Thanks to God.
    Roman Novak.

    Gee, I could have sworn that whoever the heck it was who wrote the messages that purported to be from Roman had a much stronger command of the English language.

    A Gmail address is supplied and isn't this just special:

    2013/03/25

    A new private equity fund.


    Dear partners! We get a waiver issued a license for the investment fund. We must close the Profitable Sunrise.
    But we will not leave you, we open new opportunities and access to a new level. We will refund your money open deposits and interest added to the master account for all time off site. Yes! We will refund all! We earn good name, we open new opportunities, we found many companies and private businesses need our service. And we no longer need to advertise. But we love you and we appreciate your trust and support the good name of the words.
    We invite you all to a new, private investment company with no website, no licenses, no taxes, no prosecution under the law.
    We continue to restore user account, but not all are honestly and send us a fake login that has no resemblance to our database, but we gave all request promo code to participate in the new program. But only the combination: the e-mail address, user name, and the promo code and input the IP give your access and return your money on deposit and add interest to the master account for time off site.
    If you entered your user name is not correct, we are not responsible.
    We refund your money ahead of time, and receive a bonus gift in the amount of 50% of the deposit all the new investment fund of personal involvement. Yes! No doubt all the new participants, no exceptions.
    A strict sequence, will enter a new Member in the new investment fund. All further instructions you receive your contact mail.
    Thank you for your trust and support in our difficult times.

    It's fairly hard to imagine a more cost efficient way of compiling a list of gullible, preselected victim's email addresses.

    Dreck and more dreck, the latest from Naci Jo's pander parade :

    I am writing on behalf of Nanci. She unfortunately has had to take Taylor to the hospital -- I am told it is nothing urgent, but it is where she needs to be right now. Because Albert is on vacation, I thought I'd write an email to at least keep in touch with all of you.

    The bottom line: I have no bad news to report, nor do I have any update to report since we have not heard from Roman.

    From here on out, I will not post anything I/we hear "from another leader", since those communications have made projections that are not accurate. We will only be communicating what we hear directly from Roman.

    CAUTION: Please be wary of any communications sent by email, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. talking of promo codes, new programs, advance withdrawal possibilities, etc., or enticements to read a blog. Hackers and con artists tend to rise up in the midst of fear and chaos to try and take advantage of the situation! Please take NO action and Do NOT respond to these communications, invitations, special deals etc.

    Based on my past experiences with Roman, I firmly believe that he will soon be in communication with us, but this requires the servers to be online. When you think about it, how can he communicate to his email list when the email list is in the database on servers that are not online yet?

    I have been on a call with Roman and have listened to past recordings. From what I know about the man, Roman has a history of doing everything he said he would do, and I believe this situation is no different. He has said our data is safe, and he reiterated his plans to follow through with the Easter Gift. In my humble opinion, I sincerely believe all is OK, and that's it's just a timing issue.

    Waiting is hard, isn't it? As a Pastor, I am learning every day what the scriptures declare: that we walk by faith, not by sight. I encourage us all to place our hope in the Lord, not in Roman or the program. Let Roman finish his legal work related to this temporary cease & desist order, complete the server migration, get everything tied properly to the new bank, and let the IT department address security measures in our back office, etc., all of which take time.

    Another Scripture tells us "Do not worry about tomorrow" (see full text below). Today are you experiencing Fear, Anxiety, Anger, Frustration, Doubt and Confusion?
    I have learned over the years that heightened emotions are the result of trying to control something we have no control over -- in this case, Roman's email, the servers coming online, is my money safe, will I get the Easter Gift, etc.

    The truth here is that not one of us will receive information any sooner by worrying about it.

    Trials have a way of revealing who really is in control. While we often act as though we are in control, we are not in control here... but God is. The only thing we all can control today is our own response, and our choice to leave this to work out in God's perfect time -- wouldn't it be better this week to live in faith in God instead of fear about Roman? I pray that will be our choice as a community.

    In the meantime, while we know that you want updates and assurance, please refrain from calling and Emailing... you have our word that we will notify you as SOON as we know more!

    Verses for today:

    Matthew 6:25-34

    25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
    27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?
    28 "And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you-you of little faith?
    31 So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
    34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

    Proverbs 3:5-6
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

    Let's pray for a speedy resolution to the current situation so this program will continue to be a blessing to us all.


    And please pray for Nanci and Taylor. We will keep you posted when we know more.

    Thank you for letting me share from my heart...

    God bless,

    Rev. Jon Simmons
    Best line "Trials have a way of revealing who really is in control." And I for one might consider flying out for Nanci Jo's trial just to see her face when she finds out who's in control.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    I just dropped by the Jim Paris blog to see what the believer's are up to, and can't believe they are wanting to argue that Roman was doing bridge loans/hard money lending. They still don't get it that ProSun is done and Roman ran over a week ago with all the money. Talk about beating a dead horse. Some have the common sense to dismount when the horse has died.

    Trying to discuss this logically with them is like trying to push a rope in a straight line. A lot of people have been hurt by this Ponzi under the guise of it being blessed by God. Funny how quiet Nanci Jo has been today when the website did not come back like she promised. Also MyriadForce must be devastated that his prediction: "that all the modifications are only going to make PS more powerful - time for the Global Takeover" will not be coming true.
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    Nanci Jo Frazer and Co. sent this email out today...


    Dear Global Impact Resource (GIR) Alliance family,


    I am writing on behalf of Nanci. She unfortunately has had to take Taylor to the hospital -- I am told it is nothing urgent, but it is where she needs to be right now. Because Albert is on vacation, I thought I'd write an email to at least keep in touch with all of you.

    The bottom line: I have no bad news to report, nor do I have any update to report since we have not heard from Roman.

    From here on out, I will not post anything I/we hear "from another leader", since those communications have made projections that are not accurate. We will only be communicating what we hear directly from Roman.

    CAUTION: Please be wary of any communications sent by email, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. talking of promo codes, new programs, advance withdrawal possibilities, etc., or enticements to read a blog. Hackers and con artists tend to rise up in the midst of fear and chaos to try and take advantage of the situation! Please take NO action and Do NOT respond to these communications, invitations, special deals etc.

    Based on my past experiences with Roman, I firmly believe that he will soon be in communication with us, but this requires the servers to be online. When you think about it, how can he communicate to his email list when the email list is in the database on servers that are not online yet?

    I have been on a call with Roman and have listened to past recordings. From what I know about the man, Roman has a history of doing everything he said he would do, and I believe this situation is no different. He has said our data is safe, and he reiterated his plans to follow through with the Easter Gift. In my humble opinion, I sincerely believe all is OK, and that's it's just a timing issue.

    Waiting is hard, isn't it? As a Pastor, I am learning every day what the scriptures declare: that we walk by faith, not by sight. I encourage us all to place our hope in the Lord, not in Roman or the program. Let Roman finish his legal work related to this temporary cease & desist order, complete the server migration, get everything tied properly to the new bank, and let the IT department address security measures in our back office, etc., all of which take time.

    Another Scripture tells us "Do not worry about tomorrow" (see full text below). Today are you experiencing Fear, Anxiety, Anger, Frustration, Doubt and Confusion?
    I have learned over the years that heightened emotions are the result of trying to control something we have no control over -- in this case, Roman's email, the servers coming online, is my money safe, will I get the Easter Gift, etc.

    The truth here is that not one of us will receive information any sooner by worrying about it.

    Trials have a way of revealing who really is in control. While we often act as though we are in control, we are not in control here... but God is. The only thing we all can control today is our own response, and our choice to leave this to work out in God's perfect time -- wouldn't it be better this week to live in faith in God instead of fear about Roman? I pray that will be our choice as a community.

    In the meantime, while we know that you want updates and assurance, please refrain from calling and Emailing... you have our word that we will notify you as SOON as we know more!

    Verses for today:

    Matthew 6:25-34

    25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
    27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?
    28 "And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you-you of little faith?
    31 So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
    34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

    Proverbs 3:5-6
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

    Let's pray for a speedy resolution to the current situation so this program will continue to be a blessing to us all.


    And please pray for Nanci and Taylor. We will keep you posted when we know more.

    Thank you for letting me share from my heart...

    God bless,

    Rev. Jon Simmons

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    Oh brother, so Nanci Jo is using "I had to take the kid to the hospital" excuse now for not being around in a time of crisis for her sheep. I call BS on it. Funny how these things always come up right before or when the ponzis run with the money. She is a fake and a liar. I hope they prosecute her to the full extent of the law.
    If its listed at the Talk Gold ponzi and crime forum its a SCAM.

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by intheknow View Post
    Nanci Jo Frazer and Co. sent this email out today...


    Dear Global Impact Resource (GIR) Alliance family,


    I am writing on behalf of Nanci. She unfortunately has had to take Taylor to the hospital -- I am told it is nothing urgent, but it is where she needs to be right now. Because Albert is on vacation, I thought I'd write an email to at least keep in touch with all of you.

    The bottom line: I have no bad news to report, nor do I have any update to report since we have not heard from Roman.

    From here on out, I will not post anything I/we hear "from another leader", since those communications have made projections that are not accurate. We will only be communicating what we hear directly from Roman.

    CAUTION: Please be wary of any communications sent by email, Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, etc. talking of promo codes, new programs, advance withdrawal possibilities, etc., or enticements to read a blog. Hackers and con artists tend to rise up in the midst of fear and chaos to try and take advantage of the situation! Please take NO action and Do NOT respond to these communications, invitations, special deals etc.

    Based on my past experiences with Roman, I firmly believe that he will soon be in communication with us, but this requires the servers to be online. When you think about it, how can he communicate to his email list when the email list is in the database on servers that are not online yet?

    I have been on a call with Roman and have listened to past recordings. From what I know about the man, Roman has a history of doing everything he said he would do, and I believe this situation is no different. He has said our data is safe, and he reiterated his plans to follow through with the Easter Gift. In my humble opinion, I sincerely believe all is OK, and that's it's just a timing issue.

    Waiting is hard, isn't it? As a Pastor, I am learning every day what the scriptures declare: that we walk by faith, not by sight. I encourage us all to place our hope in the Lord, not in Roman or the program. Let Roman finish his legal work related to this temporary cease & desist order, complete the server migration, get everything tied properly to the new bank, and let the IT department address security measures in our back office, etc., all of which take time.

    Another Scripture tells us "Do not worry about tomorrow" (see full text below). Today are you experiencing Fear, Anxiety, Anger, Frustration, Doubt and Confusion?
    I have learned over the years that heightened emotions are the result of trying to control something we have no control over -- in this case, Roman's email, the servers coming online, is my money safe, will I get the Easter Gift, etc.

    The truth here is that not one of us will receive information any sooner by worrying about it.

    Trials have a way of revealing who really is in control. While we often act as though we are in control, we are not in control here... but God is. The only thing we all can control today is our own response, and our choice to leave this to work out in God's perfect time -- wouldn't it be better this week to live in faith in God instead of fear about Roman? I pray that will be our choice as a community.

    In the meantime, while we know that you want updates and assurance, please refrain from calling and Emailing... you have our word that we will notify you as SOON as we know more!

    Verses for today:

    Matthew 6:25-34

    25 "Therefore I tell you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or drink; or about your body, what you will wear. Is not life more than food, and the body more than clothes? 26 Look at the birds of the air; they do not sow or reap or store away in barns, and yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not much more valuable than they?
    27 Can any one of you by worrying add a single hour to your life?
    28 "And why do you worry about clothes? See how the flowers of the field grow. They do not labor or spin. 29 Yet I tell you that not even Solomon in all his splendor was dressed like one of these. 30 If that is how God clothes the grass of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the fire, will he not much more clothe you-you of little faith?
    31 So do not worry, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?' 32 For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.
    34 Therefore do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Each day has enough trouble of its own.

    Proverbs 3:5-6
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding; in all your ways submit to him, and he will make your paths straight.

    Let's pray for a speedy resolution to the current situation so this program will continue to be a blessing to us all.


    And please pray for Nanci and Taylor. We will keep you posted when we know more.

    Thank you for letting me share from my heart...

    God bless,

    Rev. Jon Simmons
    Let see now????
    So far I have seen from these ponzi scams, Mother, Father, sister, brother, Aunt, Uncle, In -Laws and Out-Laws, Children, a dog died, a phoney adoption, A Coma, and Dengue fever!!! I sure I have missed something! All I can say is what a crop of Crap and I am sure in my own mind that all were lies!!!! Oh, and Jack Cobb has been on deaths door at least 7 times but somehow he always pulls through.

    I suspect roman and his brother will soon be hiding out in a Coconut tree in the Philippines with St. Nick. I have been told it is quite a nice coconut tree but I hav'nt seen it.

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    Poor "Roman Novak," his accent changes as he gets put under more stress:



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