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  • MD Anderson will prevail in court

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  • Evolv will prevail in court

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  • Evolv, sinking under negative publicity, will beg for a secret settlement

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  • Evolv will in fact cure cancer and totally shake up the medical community

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Welcome to our humble thread Grayarea. Sadly, your friend is likely to be in the 97-98% that will lose money with this "zero water." The founders and top reps will walk away with their pockets very full while those in most desperate need of money will see their cash trickle up to these top guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Welcome to our humble thread Grayarea. Sadly, your friend is likely to be in the 97-98% that will lose money with this "zero water." The founders and top reps will walk away with their pockets very full while those in most desperate need of money will see their cash trickle up to these top guys.

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    Hi,

    Back in May she sent me a pdf file and a site to read (I'm in the U.S.) As soon as I read the first paragraph I began to laugh out loud. I thought it was a joke but she was serious about it. I told her that I wasn't interest and to watch out for her "business partners" as they looked like the classic conmen. Over the last several months I've been following her and her "business partners" on Facebook and the local news. Its incredible how this crap is being push hard in Puerto Rico. She is so brainwashed that is not even funny anymore. I am tempted to ask her who paid for her trip to this past weekend national convention and what did she win as a new senior executive director (I think that's her new title, not 100% certain).

    P.S. I have spent the entire morning reading all your comments. This is like a nice "Lost" type of drama. Thanks!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Trey White and Ken Dunn breaking woods at Evolv Puerto Rico´s launch !!!

    YouTube - Trey White and Ken Dunn breaking woods at Evolv Puerto Rico´s launch !!!

    Good laugh!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Wow...I just found this youtube video.

    YouTube - Reportaje en Television Wapa TV -Tema:Oxigenación a través del agua

    I'm sad to see the local news (Puerto Rico) covering this. In a nutshell the news are interviewing a couple of local professors saying how this water really works. They "tested" it on patients and such product is working on cancer patients! Sad but true, in the island, things like Evolv come and go as a fad. As a result, people tend to buy and buy to avoid being an outcast. Consequently, reps would make a killing initially. I still CANNOT believe that the local news covered this crap!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    If you are doing your own MLM review about Evolv, I am pretty sure that you are doing your analysis about billionaire founder Trey White. I hope you are seeing a major trend taking place in this lucrative network marketing industry. Do you want to really know what it is and how you can really take advantage of it? Right now there are three well known billionaires that are investing in this industry including Trey. The other two are Donald Trump and Warren Buffet. So what does this mean to you and how does it benefit you? As most of you may know, there has been a lot of skepticism regarding the MLM industry as a whole being a pyramid scheme and the only way you can make money is that you have to be a heavy hitter. Not true at all.
    Three Billionaire Investors In The Network Marketing Industry Will Be Your Credibility When You Pitch Others The Evolv MLM Opportunity
    You may have already known that the best way to convince someone that network marketing is a legitimate business model is to show them evidence of Trey White's involvement in the Evolv business opportunity along with Donald Trump who has launched his own company called the Trump Network. Warren Buffet, a well known stock market mogul, is known for his investments in network marketing companies many years ago. Do you see how you can leverage their credibility to promote any MLM company you happening to be promoting?
    Evolv Distributors Are Licking Their Chops
    Evolv distributors have never been at a better place in this industry than today with Trey White coming on board as an investor. They will be able to use his billionaire status to support their argument that Evolv is well capitalized and is going to be around for a very long time. The last thing a distributor wants is to waste their precious time promoting a MLM company only to have it go bankrupt from lack of cash flow and management. This will be the crucial selling point that Evolv distributors should capitalize on when giving their business presentation to a prospect or a group of people at a meeting.
    Keep Books About Trey White Donald Trump And Warren Buffet On Hand Whenever Possible
    You should already know the power of best selling books written by well known authors in the money making profession as it pertains to network marketing. The best way to maximize your powerful persuasion tactics to convincing anyone about the legitimacy of the MLM industry is to highlight sections in those books that mention their involvement in network marketing. This will definitely increase your odds of them joining you in your business.

    To learn more about Trey White and his company, please visit Evolv MLM review [http://www.evolvhealthx.com/evolv-health-trey-white]. In the meantime, please also visit my website How To Get Rich Legally to learn more about a proven home based business that can literally change your financial outlook on life. Scroll down to watch the video then register for the free webinar to get the juicy hot details about this company that has already proven the test of time.
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    The billionaire's Titanic is sinking fast. How to Get Rich, the fabulous website, is down and long gone. I take it the millions aren't exactly rolling in if Billy can't afford the dang website. So much for Trey's billions keeping this boat afloat. Billy sure didn't last very long, now did he???

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Evolv Convention 1.jpg

    Here is one shot from the convention. Curiously, our conventioneers took very few photos of the attendees during the convetion. So, one might conclude there were very few in attendance for an international company anyway.

    There were a number of pictures from the bar where our little Evolvers were drinking lots of things that were well.... not Evolv. As the pictures show reps getting quite chummy and stupid games like limbo were in progress, I suspect most of them had quite a snootful. One would have to be quite inebriated to think Evolv is going anywhere but to the ocean bottom.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Evolv Healy check.jpg
    Evolv Fraser Check.jpg

    Paul Thorne won the cool million and Trey's buddies Jason Dallas and Michelle Fraser won the 25 grand. Mike Healy raked in the 50 grand. Now, just how many thousands of reps had to be on autoship losing money to fund this little adventure???

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    EvolvHealth/M.D. Anderson Update

    Civil No. 4:09-cv-03699


    As stated by Brent Hicks, CEO and Co-Founder of Evolv, “with human clinical studies already underway, we made a decision to invest our money and energy into our FutureCeuticals relationship.”

    Attached please find a copy of the Joint Motion for Entry and Final Judgment and Stipulated Permanent Injunction. As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.

    If you have any questions or would like any further information, please direct your inquiries to compliance@evolvhealth.com.

    http://blog.evolvhealth.com/wp-conte...Attachment.pdf

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    EvolvHealth/M.D. Anderson Update

    Civil No. 4:09-cv-03699


    As stated by Brent Hicks, CEO and Co-Founder of Evolv, “with human clinical studies already underway, we made a decision to invest our money and energy into our FutureCeuticals relationship.”

    Attached please find a copy of the Joint Motion for Entry and Final Judgment and Stipulated Permanent Injunction. As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.

    If you have any questions or would like any further information, please direct your inquiries to compliance@evolvhealth.com.

    http://blog.evolvhealth.com/wp-conte...Attachment.pdf
    As expected,

    "Defendants, together with their subsidiaries, affiliates, principals, shareholders, agents, employees, attorneys and all other persons in active concert or participation with them, are permanently enjoined and restrained from:

    a) Making use of any of the trademarks that are subject of the United States trademark registration numbers: .................................................. .....................

    b) Publishing, distributing or making reference to the University of Texas............................

    c) Stating or implying, either directly or indirectly, that the defendants, or their businesses or any product manufactured and/or marketed by the defendants or have been sponsored, endorsed, supported or validated by, or are or have been connected or affiliated with the University of Texas............................................. ..........

    d) Assisting, aiding or abetting any other person or entity in engaging or performing any of the activities prohibited in this injunction

    e) Challenging or assisting any other person or identity in challenging the validity or registrability of any of the M.D. Anderson marks

    2) Except as set forth herein, all claims asserted and all counterclaims that could have been asserted are dismissed with prejudice. Each party shall bear its' own attorneys' fees and costs.
    So, in answer to Soapboxmoms' original poll question as to who would "win"

    "MD ANDERSON" won handsomely and Evolv can no longer claim ANY sort of relationship with Anderson or the U of T now or in the future.
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    That is beyond hilarious. I hope you, littleroundman, don't object to my sharing your brilliant response to this news with our good friends at Quatloos.

    Could multi-billionaire Trey White not afford to carry on his noble battle with the big bad cancer hospital? Did he see the obvious and realize he had "zero water" and zero chance of prevailing? Did God speak to the rattled boy? Did the avalanche of bad publicity convince him he was committing business suicide by continuing forward with this suit sure to be lost? Did the defection of legions of heavy hitters and self proclaimed MLM geniuses put a huge dent in the bottom line and convince him to take this drastic action?

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    I think it will be highly amusing to watch Evolv try to clean up all those references to MD Anderson across the web. There are gobs of websites, blogs and press releases all over the place and many of those were put up by reps that are long gone and don't want to be found or bothered. Perhaps, Ignite / Stream will get a clue and settle before the negative publicity resulting from their current legal adventure sinks them like the Titanic. Taking on a lot of water, aren't we!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    EvolvHealth/M.D. Anderson Update

    Civil No. 4:09-cv-03699


    As stated by Brent Hicks, CEO and Co-Founder of Evolv, “with human clinical studies already underway, we made a decision to invest our money and energy into our FutureCeuticals relationship.”

    Attached please find a copy of the Joint Motion for Entry and Final Judgment and Stipulated Permanent Injunction. As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.

    If you have any questions or would like any further information, please direct your inquiries to compliance@evolvhealth.com.

    http://blog.evolvhealth.com/wp-conte...Attachment.pdf
    You keep talking about these bogus studies, Karen pooh. Yet, when you have been asked many times on here who is performing these studies, when did they begin and at what research entity, you ignore and fail to answer the questions or provide any details which certainly you would be able to get from the fearless leaders at Evolv. I call bullshit again. Who is exactly is performing the clinical trial? When did they begin? When will they be finished? What tests and what exactly is being looked at/for in these trials? We won't get any answer from Karen pooh or anyone else at Evolv whatsoever of course.

    Evolv caved in the suit because they lied big time, were caught and sued for their lies and misrepresentations and don't have a legal leg to stand on and would lose their asses in having to pay out damages to Anderson. They were slapped with an injunction to never use any reference to Anderson ever again and to remove any said references to Anderson! You call this a victory? ROTFL! Nice try at spinning, as usual Karen honey, and sadly another failure at it. Seems that ingesting Evolv makes you stupid, blind and ignorant.
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    When will the FDA step in and shut these morons down for once and for all!!!

    "Everyone has the right to try something and form their own opinions."

    No they don't. This extremist argument was finally bought down by the establishment of the FDA so that shills like yourself Karen, could no longer market poisonous and ineffective substances to a sick public made gullible by their desperation. Claiming that a substance has been tested by a famous cancer centre is a blatant attempt to slip an anti-cancer message under the bar without actually saying anything. It's not subtle and it's not clever.

    The fact you can still market 'magic' water for carefully phrased, not quite, but we're hinting at it, wink-wink medical indications is a scandal.

    And you are a marketing wonk because you are marketing the magic water. And can I presume self-employed really means pyramid salesman of magic water?

    WFAA covered Evolv in March 2010. The verdict according to the nutritionist? Anyone can get as much health benefit from a $.22 vitamin pill vs. a $2.91 bottle of water with unregulated amounts of various supplements and bogus ingredients with fake UNTESTED claims. There is power in the Placebo!!!

    These claims are illegal!!! Not to mention outright LIES!!!:

    Additional benefits may include:

    • Helps increase stamina and endurance

    • Helps increase energy levels

    • Helps enhance the absorption of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, proteins, and other important nutrients

    • Helps speed fatigue recovery

    • Helps maintain healthy circulation

    • Helps support immune system

    • Helps restore mental alertness from fatigue or drowsiness

    • Helps neutralize harmful toxins

    Evolv Health MLM: Facts, News, and Reviews

    There have been no legit tests, no legit clinical studies and no legit medical proof or evidence for any of this bullshit! Come on FDA, shake a fricking stick already!


    The truth is, the best nutrition comes from real, whole foods. By drinking 2 bottles a day you are spending $150 a month on WATER!

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    Funny how the ONE, true, legit entity that was paid by Evolv to do some limited chemical testing on their bogus water, was never asked to perform any studies to back up Evolv's bogus claims were they? How ironic! If they wanted proof of their bogus cure claims, then why not have Anderson test for these claims? Afraid of the truth perhaps?

    M. D. Anderson statement:
    Recently, you may have heard or read about a company that sells Evolv, a "nutraceutical beverage," which is being promoted in part based upon testing done at The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center, but also is being mistakenly viewed as endorsed by M. D. Anderson. M. D. Anderson conducted limited chemical analysis of the product to evaluate its anti-inflammatory activity for a fee at the request of the manufacturer. No efficacy or toxicity data were generated at M. D. Anderson nor was the product tested on humans. Moreover, M. D. Anderson does not have any involvement with the company, the product is not produced by M. D. Anderson, and M. D. Anderson does not endorse the product or recommend its use.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.
    I notice that wasn't emphasized here.
    Sigh.
    No matter what I say or post, you'll make a point to "pooh pooh" soooo...

    "If you have any questions or would like any further information, please direct your inquiries to compliance@evolvhealth.com"

    and post it here, like I said before.

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    I think it will be highly amusing to watch Evolv try to clean up all those references to MD Anderson across the web. There are gobs of websites, blogs and press releases all over the place and many of those were put up by reps that are long gone and don't want to be found or bothered. Perhaps, Ignite / Stream will get a clue and settle before the negative publicity resulting from their current legal adventure sinks them like the Titanic. Taking on a lot of water, aren't we!

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    Well it looks as if they are in breach of the injunction already.

    Just "google" it and you will find pages of references to the MD Anderson Center on promotional articles and blogs. The injunction has already begun. They need to get a move on before they are taken back to court for breaking it.

    @ A Life Aloft - I couldn't agree with you more. Time they stopped the sale of these potentially damaging products with their false health claims. People have been known to give up their traditional (and often life saving) treatments in favor of the placebo effects of the various jungle juices and magic waters marketed by the MLMs. The companies in the Great Pharmaceutical Conspiracy will be the first to jump in if a real magic water is discovered. They'll buy up the patent and distribute it themselves. lol

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    Mike Healy burbles on about how impressed he is with the guy running the ship (Titanic), Trey White, who he says decisively is a multi-billionaire. He then asserts that Trey White has "taken multiple companies to billion dollar status." If I were recruited by this guy and losing my shirt I would certainly be exploring all my legal options. Someone should tell Forbes they missed putting Roscoe / Trey White on their list of multi-billionaires. Tall tales are very much alive and well in Waterland!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Our good friend Patrick wrote a wonderful piece on Evolv's legal adventure. I thank him for very kindly linking to our humble thread here. Kudos!

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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Mike Healy burbles on about how impressed he is with the guy running the ship (Titanic), Trey White, who he says decisively is a multi-billionaire. He then asserts that Trey White has "taken multiple companies to billion dollar status." If I were recruited by this guy and losing my shirt I would certainly be exploring all my legal options. Someone should tell Forbes they missed putting Roscoe / Trey White on their list of multi-billionaires. Tall tales are very much alive and well in Waterland!

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    So this bozo Mike Healy has been in the industry for over 17 years and he says he's "picked some bombs" before. Looks like he picked another one. And he's made millions? Doubtful since his home is worth $220K according to Zillow.
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    Re: Trey White's Evolv Water vs. World Renowned MD Anderson Cancer Center

    MD Cancer Center 1, Evolv Water 0. Evolv has to remove all mention of MD Cancer Center and their logo from all their products and any testimonials claiming MD Cancer Center endorses, or their research validated Evolv's claims. Of course Trey admitted no wrong-doing, but funny how he caved instead of going to court where treble damages could have been awarded. So much for MD Cancer Center's endorsement.

    To settle the case, the defendants now have agreed to a permanent injunction that bars them from using the famous trademarks and “any iteration or variation thereof.”

    Under the terms of the settlement, the defendants acknowledged no wrongdoing, but agreed neither to state nor imply that the university or M.D. Anderson endorsed the product.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.
    Err,

    Geez, Karen,

    Please go and consult a lawyer, or at least watch a few more episodes of Law and Order to improve your knowledge of the law and how it works before you make such silly statements.

    Evolv lost and MD Anderson got exactly what they wanted, plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.
    I notice that wasn't emphasized here.
    Sigh.
    No matter what I say or post, you'll make a point to "pooh pooh" soooo...

    "If you have any questions or would like any further information, please direct your inquiries to compliance@evolvhealth.com"

    and post it here, like I said before.

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    Are you really this stupid or blatantly this ignorant as to insult our intelligence time and time again?
    Exactly what 'wrong-doing' would Anderson have to fess up to?
    Evolv made the bogus claims.
    And as SBM pointed out, why wouldn't the alleged multi-billionaire follow through with the suit if Evolv did nothing wrong?
    It would cost him chump change to be vindicated if right and then think about the sales.
    But then they also wouldn't need slugs like you lying to the public either.
    And since I have never had jetlag, have I been born with Evolv in me following your ridiculous logic that it somehow prevents jetlag?

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    Are you really this stupid or blatantly this ignorant as to insult our intelligence time and time again?
    You know, "Karens" latest protestations have finally convinced me that she really IS as naive as she seems.

    IM(very)HO, not even the most cynical shill would try something as obviously wrong as claiming victory in a civil court case in which the final judgment and permanent injunction go against the defendant.

    Particularly when the final judgment is so comprehensively in favour of the plaintiffs, as in this case.

    Nah, with such an obviously lacking knowledge of the law and the way things work in the real world, "Karen" is more deserving of our sympathy than our scorn, ESPECIALLY if she decides to continue putting her faith (and money) in the likes of Evolv and its' management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Karen View Post
    As noted in the Joint Motion for Entry, neither party admitted liability or wrongdoing of any kind.
    I notice that wasn't emphasized here.
    Sigh.
    No matter what I say or post, you'll make a point to "pooh pooh" soooo...

    "If you have any questions or would like any further information, please direct your inquiries to compliance@evolvhealth.com"

    and post it here, like I said before.

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    Pooh Pooh my ass. The wording is typical legaleeze and everyone with a half a brain knows it. I have seen that exact same phrasing on many many settlements and agreemnets in various lawsuits. If there was no wrong doing by Evolv then why the injunction? You seem to as usual, leave out the facts, the truth and the details and try to spin this win by Anderson into something positive for Evolv when it clearly is not. Just how brain dead are you? I'd say just keep drinking the kool aid but in your case it's the phony magic water that has has you caught up in this complete sham of a product and this slimy MLM.

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    Oh and while we are at it Karen sweetie, care to answer this question for the umpteenth time?

    You keep talking about these bogus studies, Karen pooh. Yet, when you have been asked many times on here who is performing these studies, when did they begin and at what research entity, you ignore and fail to answer the questions or provide any details which certainly you would be able to get from the fearless leaders at Evolv. I call bullshit again. Who is exactly is performing the clinical trial? When did they begin? When will they be finished? What tests and what exactly is being looked at/for in these trials? We won't get any answer from Karen pooh or anyone else at Evolv whatsoever of course.

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