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    Visalus hacking, espionage allegations lead to indictments

    Long term observers of the MLM scene might remember the acrimonious battle that resulted from the formation of the Ocean Avenue MLM company after several high ranking members of Visalus struck out on their own back in 2012.

    The saga was covered by Oz at the time over on his
    BEHINDMLM.com in an article entitled Ocean Ave vs Visalus, espionage, hacking, threats

    This week comes a Department of Justice press release announcing the indictment of six defendants in the case,



    A copy of the unsealed indictment in .pdf format can be downloaded from the Dept of Justice website
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    Re: Visalus hacking, espionage allegations lead to indictments

    Has anyone notified Len Clements?

    Ocean Ave vs Visalus: Espionage, hacking & threats
    Len Clements
    Nov 2nd, 2013 at 10:58 am (Q)
    I don’t understand why so many people (not just on this board) believe these photos offer such compelling evidence of OA’s accusations. All I see is a guy walking in and out of a building, who’s face is obscured in each shot, who MIGHT be caring SOMETHING under his left arm (I see a small black protrusion from his black jacket).
    And are we to believe he just freely walked into an unlocked, unoccupied building (at least where he went within the building) after hours, and just walked out with a computer? And the fact he is a PI who is an “expert in investigations and personal protection” yet did nothing to cover his face, wore no gloves, and was surely fully aware he was being videotaped, gives no one the least bit of pause?
    And everything else in this complaint are ALLEGATIONS, not matters of fact. I’m not saying they are untrue, and believe me I’m no fan of Visalus and feel no compulsion to defend them. But if we assumed everything in a Plaintiff’s complaint was true there would be no need for judges, juries and trials.
    But there is such a need because there are TWO sides to every story. And those very judges and juries will sort it all out eventually.
    All I’m saying is, OA has to have more evidence than has been presented in their Exhibits. OA may very well be in possession of the proverbial smoking gun. If so, they haven’t made it public yet.

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    Re: Visalus hacking, espionage allegations lead to indictments

    i'm sure he'll take credit for the investigation now.

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    Re: Visalus hacking, espionage allegations lead to indictments

    Len Clements = double agent extraordinaire
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    Re: Visalus hacking, espionage allegations lead to indictments

    Detroit Free Press is reporting:



    You can read the original story here on the
    Detroit Free Press website
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