Thread: Well known MLMer sues MLM company for $5 million

^{Well known in the MLM world as a staunch advocate of the oft criticized MLM telecom and energy company, ACN, Matt Rasmussen has announced:}

I am suing an MLM company for $5 million dollars



http://www.mlm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35092

Would this be the more than staunch acn spammer supporter that resided on scam?

Originally Posted by Whip

Would this be the more than staunch acn spammer supporter that resided on scam?

The very same.

Although his absence of late has been noted.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

The very same.

Although his absence of late has been noted.

Gee....what happened? Everyone else was wrong. This was going to take over the world and skype was irrelevant. lol.

Originally Posted by Whip

Gee....what happened? Everyone else was wrong. This was going to take over the world and skype was irrelevant. lol.

Of course, the fact it never happened after months and months of the usual suspect ACN reps crowing it would, has nothing to do with the fact said ACN reps are now totally conspicuous by their absence.

http://mlm.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35092&start=20#p332148

Well, that case is down the commode. Lenny Clements? Seriously??? One would think he would hire real experts like Dr. Jon Taylor, Robert Fitzpatrick and Tracy Coenen. I am surprised that place hasn't pulled his thread.

Soapboxmom

I certainly hope no one on the defense team asks Lenny how his research into the efficacy of the Amega Wand is going.

What ever happened with this pipe dream? Can't find anything about it anywhere.

Originally Posted by Whip

What ever happened with this pipe dream? Can't find anything about it anywhere.

Guess Lenny tried to Wand the case and it disappeared. Haven't seen anything since, so it's the only explanation I can come up with.

It never hurts to ask!

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Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

It never hurts to ask!

MLM.com - MLM Discussion Board - MLM Tools • View topic - I am suing an MLM company for $5 million dollars

Hehe. Curiosity killed the cat. Waiting avidly for a response to your enquiry

There won't be one as there never was any suit. He just loves acting the big man.

Titan Global, LLC et al v. Organo Gold Int'l, Inc et al

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Plaintiffs:	Titan Global, LLC , Mathew Rasmussen and Lisa Rasmussen
Defendants:	Organo Gold Int'l, Inc , Holton Buggs, Jr., Romacio Fulcher , Jane Doe Buggs, Rramon Fulcher, Sr , Tyra Fulcher , Kyle A Solon , Does, John 1-25, Does, Jane 1-25, Does, John 26-50, Does, Jane 26-50 and XYZ Corporation and LLC , 1-25
Case Number:	5:2012cv02104
Filed:	April 26, 2012
Court:	California Northern District Court
Office:	San Jose Office
County:	Santa Cruz
Presiding Judge:	Lucy H. Koh
Referring Judge:	Howard R. Lloyd
Nature of Suit:	Other Statutes - Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations
Cause:	18:1961
Jurisdiction:	Federal Question
Jury Demanded By:	Both

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December 13, 2012	51	ORDER SETTING DEADLINE TO FILE AMENDED COMPLAINT. Signed by Judge Lucy H. Koh on 12/13/2012. (lhklc4, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 12/13/2012)
December 2, 2012	50	ORDER by Judge Lucy H. Koh granting in part and denying in part 29 Motion to Dismiss (lhklc4, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 12/2/2012)
September 18, 2012	45	ORDER VACATING MOTION HEARING. Signed by Judge Lucy H. Koh on 9/18/2012. (lhklc4, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 9/18/2012)
July 2, 2012	34	Order by Hon. Lucy H. Koh granting 33 Stipulation.(lhklc1, COURT STAFF) (Filed on 7/2/2012)

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5:12-cv-02104-LHK - Titan Global, LLC et al v. Organo Gold Int'l, Inc et al
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Looks like Rasmussen is going for the gold so to speak!

Ah. I stand corrected.

Nothing like one MLMer calling another MLM or MLMer a noogie head! We know how hilarious it is to watch MLMers and other scammers file lawsuits and commit business suicide in public. This should be a gas! And, I am with you, Whip, and can't believe he actually filed!

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

Nothing like one MLMer calling another MLM or MLMer a noogie head! We know how hilarious it is to watch MLMers and other scammers file lawsuits and commit business suicide in public. This should be a gas! And, I am with you, Whip, and can't believe he actually filed!

Reading the court docs, it looks more like he's just upset over people at Organo gold trying to recruit his downline....

Originally Posted by oldfriend

Reading the court docs, it looks more like he's just upset over people at Organo gold trying to recruit his downline....

"upset over people at Organo gold trying to recruit his downline"? You have to be kidding. A professional like Rasmussen!

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

"upset over people at Organo gold trying to recruit his downline"? You have to be kidding. A professional like Rasmussen!

We'll obviously have to wait and see what happens when and if the case gets past the preliminaries stage, but, one can't help feeling from the outside, the case has the potential to open up a can of worms for the whole M.L.M. industry, and not necessarily in a good way.

Not being au fait with the inner workings of the M.L.M. industry or any contractual obligations, the first thing that springs to mind is we have a COFFEE company being sued by an ENERGY company.

The second consideration seems to be whether or not any company can engage in restraint of trade against its' "IBOs" when such trade is in an unrelated market and whether or not "IBOs" can be recruited at all, or whether they're stuck where they are.

Should be interesting.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

We'll obviously have to wait and see what happens when and if the case gets past the preliminaries stage, but, one can't help feeling from the outside, the case has the potential to open up a can of worms for the whole M.L.M. industry, and not necessarily in a good way.

Not being au fait with the inner workings of the M.L.M. industry or any contractual obligations, the first thing that springs to mind is we have a COFFEE company being sued by an ENERGY company.

The second consideration seems to be whether or not any company can engage in restraint of trade against its' "IBOs" when such trade is in an unrelated market and whether or not "IBOs" can be recruited at all, or whether they're stuck where they are.

Should be interesting.

I'll go with Fascinating! Unethical v Even more Unethical.

Since the mlmers like to say it's about the 'product' and not recruiting, this suit should have no merit.

Originally Posted by Lil Ol' Radical Me

I'll go with Fascinating! Unethical v Even more Unethical.

For some reason when I read your post, I got this image of a rattlesnake pit, with all of the rattlesnakes trying to bite each other.

Originally Posted by Whip

Since the mlmers like to say it's about the 'product' and not recruiting, this suit should have no merit.

That's what they like to say.....but as we see with the current Herbalife / Ackman fiasco, its not about the products....hardly ever....

The court docs - plaintiffs charges - seem to imply that Organo Gold was cross recruiting. Caused some contention, and probably loss of revenues, for Matt R...

Makes me wonder how many people have dropped their current MLM in favor of ACN with Matt through the course of his career with them.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

We'll obviously have to wait and see what happens when and if the case gets past the preliminaries stage, but, one can't help feeling from the outside, the case has the potential to open up a can of worms for the whole M.L.M. industry, and not necessarily in a good way.

I doubt it. Highly. IBO's are their own person/entity....a company doesn't own them, and unless their policy states specifically that an IBO is forbidden to participate in any other MLM simultaneously (even a non competing one) I don't see how a company or a regulation, a policy, a law, could forbid it...