Thread: What would encourage you to buy a drink from MLM ?

People often accuse "naysayers" of focusing on the negatives when it comes to Multi Level Marketing.

Here's a chance for people to post counter arguments.

You're thirsty,

what would make an MLM such as "Yoli" YOUR source ????

Absolutely Nothing (was going to say Nothing, but it was too short. lol)

Originally Posted by littleroundman

You're thirsty,

what would make an MLM such as "Yoli" YOUR source ????

I would need to be thirsty and the drink would have to be free and no water available.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

I would need to be thirsty and the drink would have to be free and no water available.

No water??? We would be forced to blast the Yoli into some nice soothing hard liqour. But, who would want ruin pefectly smooth and satisfying Crown Royal or the like?: RpS_blink:

Soapboxmom

Nuttin', honey. But being a bartender at a hotel sponsoring an MLM convention or meeting can be lucrative:

I have found one surefire way to make loads of money off of an MLM scam: be the bartender.
I work in a hotel bar and after what I can only assume had been a long, hard-sell performance in one of our conference rooms, the scammers brought their prospective clients down to the bar. In an effort to impress the suckers, the leaders were literally throwing money over the bar at me. 4 shots cost $16 bucks, so he tipped me $20, 10 drinks for all his “friends” is $50, here’s a $50 tip as well.

By the end of my normally sleepy Tuesday night shift, I had made over $600… my average on a Tuesday being about $75. It almost made me uncomfortable to take his money because I could see that he was trying to show off, and I had a feeling this kid didn’t really have the money to spend.

I don’t know for sure what the product or plan was for this group, but I’ll bet I probably have the highest income/time-invested ratio in the whole company…

We should ask the inimitable Len Clements to arrange some studies on this. Would blasting into smooth and deliciously pricey hard liquor have a detrimental effect on the nutritional / anti-oxidant qualities in the Yoli? This would be a far more impressive study than those silly wands he wanted to test! And, inebriated recruits well.... that surely makes the sell much easier for the top dogs that are in the dump and jump crowd and spend their lives recruiting for countless long term deals ad nauseum.

Soapboxmom

Originally Posted by Soapboxmom

No water??? We would be forced to blast the Yoli into some nice soothing hard liqour. But, who would want ruin pefectly smooth and satisfying Crown Royal or the like?: RpS_blink:

Soapboxmom

Oh ya! I forgot, they sell the blast caps. I thought they also sold the bottled stuff? Live and Learn said it didn't pass the taste test (where are the results of that test anyway?) Would we really want to ruin perfectly good Crown Royal by putting Yoli into it?

Perish the thought!

The key here is what would "ENOURAGE" me to "BUY" a drink from MLM?

It'd have to be a pretty special situation, that's a given. Something like a demonstration in a public area somewhere, with the open promise that after I plunked down my hard earned money for this drink that a certain number of guarantees be established. The first being if I'm not completely thrilled or displeased in any way, my money will be promptly 200% refunded on the spot, yes, I said Two Hundred percent. But that's not enough still. I also want to be able to spit whatever I don't want in my mouth right back in the sellers face along with throwing whatever is left in the container in their face as well. But that's still not enough. I also want to right to berate them, openly and verbally right there on the spot for a least a few minutes or until I get tired, whichever comes first. If those three items were offered as an incentive to buy a single drink, and it was cheap cheap cheap, I might take a shot at it.

Originally Posted by Mike!

The key here is what would "ENOURAGE" me to "BUY" a drink from MLM?

It'd have to be a pretty special situation, that's a given. Something like a demonstration in a public area somewhere, with the open promise that after I plunked down my hard earned money for this drink that a certain number of guarantees be established. The first being if I'm not completely thrilled or displeased in any way, my money will be promptly 200% refunded on the spot, yes, I said Two Hundred percent. But that's not enough still. I also want to be able to spit whatever I don't want in my mouth right back in the sellers face along with throwing whatever is left in the container in their face as well. But that's still not enough. I also want to right to berate them, openly and verbally right there on the spot for a least a few minutes or until I get tired, whichever comes first. If those three items were offered as an incentive to buy a single drink, and it was cheap cheap cheap, I might take a shot at it.

ROFL, Dang! Mike, you're brutal.

Really brutal. LOL

I guess I should have allowed Lenny to send me some samples like he offered. Then I could have tasted them and at least compared them to Red Bull, which in my opinion is disgusting. I didn't want to try them that badly, I was distinctly aware that if I allowed him to send me some, I would somehow be under some obligation to listen to him about their questionable benefits forever.

I couldn't see me doing that.

I would have to want to drink mystery stuff but if I suddenly did, it would have to be:

1) Be cheaper than the store brand version.
2) Have an ingredient list to check for food allgeries.
3) Be easy to purchase without a credit card or debit card.
4) Be able to be shipped to a PO box or commercial address.
5) Be a non-reoccurring purchase commitment.

No auto$hit? Boy did we just limit our options. I guess it is back to the Crown Royal while we keep pondering our choices!

Soapboxmom

What would make me want to purchase any type of drink from any MLM....hmmmm...hard choice......ahhh....nothing, actually.

What would be the point?

I can and do make any type of juice or health drink or smoothie that I need to from dozens of types of vegies and fruits and whatever other ingredients that suit/meet my needs and tastes, in my own blender and/or juicer. I can do this less expensively, easier, more conveniently, safer, quicker and blend to my own needs and tastes, know exactly what I am consuming and it's fresher. I can also buy any natural type juices with the honestly listed ingredients on the label, more cheaply at any store.

It's amazing that billions of human beings have managed to survive and thrive on this planet for thousands of years and will continue to do so, without ever having consumed any drink from any MLM. How can that be?

I can also do my own research easily on the internet in regards to any nutrients or special ingredients that I may want to add to my own drinks and get the truth, the facts and the legit research and not some b.s. bogus claims, lies and hype. I am also therefore, not contributing to a con game where members and consumers are ripped off, lied to and bilked. Seems like a win win to me.

The deciding factors for me are,

I can go to virtually any store or service station at any time and have the choice of literally hundreds of different drinks and/or flavours,

AND

I only have to buy ONE of them at a time, not a months' supply.

AND

that ONE drink will be cheaper per unit than drinks purchased in carton lots via MLM

AND

My choice will be refrigerated and come with a straw, if required.

AND

the person who supplies me with the drink will limit any interaction to exchanging pleasantries and then STFU

not:

a) pressure me to buy another
b) offer me an "opportunity"
c) suggest I join an "autoship" program.

Actually, I wouldn't mind getting my beer on autoship if it was price-competitive with the grocery store.

You are my kind of poster! Welcome to the site!

Soapboxmom

1. I get to try it first, free, without providing any personal information whatsoever. Merely asking for it disqualifies you. Just like radio shack doesn't need my zipcode to buy batteries, you don't need my name and address for me to take a swig of your juice.
2. It tastes good.
3. All ingredients are known and listed.
4. Any health claims are backed by real science. Randomly collected testimonials are not science. "Because we say so" is not science.
5. It is competitively priced with the market, the real market. Just because a salesman says their product is high end doesn't mean it is. I decide what "market" it is compared to, markets are driven by customers.
6. I don't have to be pressured to buy more product, buy into any "opportunity". I just want to buy a product I like for crying out loud.
7. A variety of volume purchases is available (single serving bottle, 6 pack, case, etc). None of this buy a box crap.
8. The company isn't sleazy. Showing "salesmen" sitting on a (usually rented) Hummer or a Jag is low class. It only shows how overpriced your product is, not how "great the opportunity is."

Originally Posted by Mike!

The key here is what would "ENOURAGE" me to "BUY" a drink from MLM?

It'd have to be a pretty special situation, that's a given. Something like a demonstration in a public area somewhere, with the open promise that after I plunked down my hard earned money for this drink that a certain number of guarantees be established. The first being if I'm not completely thrilled or displeased in any way, my money will be promptly 200% refunded on the spot, yes, I said Two Hundred percent. But that's not enough still. I also want to be able to spit whatever I don't want in my mouth right back in the sellers face along with throwing whatever is left in the container in their face as well. But that's still not enough. I also want to right to berate them, openly and verbally right there on the spot for a least a few minutes or until I get tired, whichever comes first. If those three items were offered as an incentive to buy a single drink, and it was cheap cheap cheap, I might take a shot at it.

Well I think you'd die of thirst first.

Originally Posted by Lightbulb

I would have to want to drink mystery stuff but if I suddenly did, it would have to be:

1) Be cheaper than the store brand version.
2) Have an ingredient list to check for food allgeries.
3) Be easy to purchase without a credit card or debit card.
4) Be able to be shipped to a PO box or commercial address.
5) Be a non-reoccurring purchase commitment.

That one is easy. done.

Originally Posted by CynicalSkeptic

Actually, I wouldn't mind getting my beer on autoship if it was price-competitive with the grocery store.

I don't drink enough to warrant it....anymore that is.

Originally Posted by calvinandhobbes

1. I get to try it first, free, without providing any personal information whatsoever. Merely asking for it disqualifies you. Just like radio shack doesn't need my zipcode to buy batteries, you don't need my name and address for me to take a swig of your juice.
2. It tastes good.
3. All ingredients are known and listed.
4. Any health claims are backed by real science. Randomly collected testimonials are not science. "Because we say so" is not science.
5. It is competitively priced with the market, the real market. Just because a salesman says their product is high end doesn't mean it is. I decide what "market" it is compared to, markets are driven by customers.
6. I don't have to be pressured to buy more product, buy into any "opportunity". I just want to buy a product I like for crying out loud.
7. A variety of volume purchases is available (single serving bottle, 6 pack, case, etc). None of this buy a box crap.
8. The company isn't sleazy. Showing "salesmen" sitting on a (usually rented) Hummer or a Jag is low class. It only shows how overpriced your product is, not how "great the opportunity is."

Not a problem for this one either...if you were there at a tasting none of your requests are a problem.

Originally Posted by iamwil

Not a problem for this one either...if you were there at a tasting none of your requests are a problem.

At $50 a bottle (according to you), your company is nowhere near ever seeing one cent of my money. If you had a 50% off sale, your company is nowhere near ever seeing one cent of my money. If you had a 90% off sale, you might have a chance of seeing some of my money.

Originally Posted by calvinandhobbes

At $50 a bottle (according to you), your company is nowhere near ever seeing one cent of my money. If you had a 50% off sale, your company is nowhere near ever seeing one cent of my money. If you had a 90% off sale, you might have a chance of seeing some of my money.

Oh I completely understand C&H.

$50 retail...we retail very little....like Sam's or BJ's people become members...$40....drops to $35 for a case...and it is on sale...for the month of July.

But as I talk to customers every day...the ones that get relief of their pain...they think it worth every cent, others just don't purchase any more, or return it for their money back...about 1%.

When someone who just drank some 'snake oil jungle juice' tells you after ten years of not being able to reach their arms over their head, after NSAIDS, cortizone shots, this and that and the other thing...and they are so happy because they were able to wash their hair without help...to them it is worth every penny.

Originally Posted by iamwil

blah blah blah blah blah .....

Next time, instead of defaulting to your normal marketing crap, can't you just summarize with the actually honest (and more succinct) "no, we can't meet your criteria"?

When someone who just drank some 'snake oil jungle juice' tells you after ten years of not being able to reach their arms over their head, after NSAIDS, cortizone shots, this and that and the other thing...and they are so happy because they were able to wash their hair without help...to them it is worth every penny.

But you do have to keep buying it, don't you?
I believe you can get the same results with a one time purchase of Teh Magic Stick (aka The Amega Wand).

Originally Posted by calvinandhobbes

Next time, instead of defaulting to your normal marketing crap, can't you just summarize with the actually honest (and more succinct) "no, we can't meet your criteria"?

So honesty is what you speak of? So it appears in the previous post you've directly quoted me. A direct quote means something does it not?

Is it a tad more than dishonest to say that I litterally said "blah blah blah" or in your world are there differing rules for honesty especially when trying to make a point about it?

Originally Posted by iamwil

When someone who just drank some 'snake oil jungle juice' tells you after ten years of not being able to reach their arms over their head, after NSAIDS, cortizone shots, this and that and the other thing...and they are so happy because they were able to wash their hair without help...to them it is worth every penny.

Oh yeah....I would always buy that especially with no real medical or scientific proof, examination, explaination or reason. ROTFL!

Originally Posted by iamwil

So honesty is what you speak of? So it appears in the previous post you've directly quoted me. A direct quote means something does it not?

Is it a tad more than dishonest to say that I litterally said "blah blah blah" or in your world are there differing rules for honesty especially when trying to make a point about it?

It is my HONEST opinion that what you said was the equivalent of BLAH BLAH BLAH. I'm sorry you are just too stupid to understand anything so blatantly obvious.

I HONESTLY think you are a liar. You deny things you've said over and over.
I HONESTLY think you are a crook. You sell ridiculously priced products, hiding behind "God."
I HONESTLY think you are illiterate. I HONESTLY think you are a complete moron. You could figure out what the difference between a car and a carburetor is.

I HONESTLY think you fit right in with the stereotypical MLM crooks. Say anything to make a buck. Say hi to Jimmy and Tammy, Mr Swaggart, and the rest of the religious nutcases that use faith to scam people of their money.

I laugh at you and pity you. Constantly.