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    How can someone be ordered to 'cease and desist' using their own marketing technique? lol.
    And why is there a compliance test? They should already be 'in compliance'.

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    The cult of Zeek is identifying heretics and marking them for banishment. From the support forum:



    April Marie Tucker 1 day ago
    What is Zeek doing about active affiliates that bad mouth the company publicly?




    What is Zeek doing about active affiliates that bad mouth the company publicly? https://www.facebook.com/marie.shaw.1... Something needs to be done about people like this they are wrecking the industry as a whole.
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    April,

    We are looking into this for you. Thanks for bringing it up. I will let update you.
    So people who think for themselves are "wrecking the industry"? What does that say about the "industry" as a whole?
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    The cult of Zeek is identifying heretics and marking them for banishment. From the support forum:



    So people who think for themselves are "wrecking the industry"? What does that say about the "industry" as a whole?
    All I know is.........................nice fake boobs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Someone told me that Zeek has now stated that the FTC and the SEC has given them a clean bill of health. Is that true?
    No. Someone started that lie on the TV station comment section following that news report.

    They're using the "If it's a scam why haven't they been prosecuted yet" fallacy. (speaking of which, I need to add that to my blog)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    All I know is.........................nice fake boobs.
    Her website shows her to be... quite a bit older. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    Her website shows her to be... quite a bit older. ;)
    As one day you will be as well my good man. :)

    By the by, there's a comment on the "posts by others" area of the ZR facebook page purporting to have your resume. I wont post the link on the chance they fingered the wrong Chang but if they did find you, I salute you fine sir.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    We all know that when ZR announces that they will bee doing something "soon" they have a fairly elastic notion of what "soon" means. But there are increased rumblings that ZR will be implementing an ACH (Automated Clearing House) payment system "soon." Knowing what we do about ZR's technical support and IT security this frankly scares the heck out of me.


    An interesting article from Bushiness Management Daily:

    ACH fraud is Payroll’s newest headache


    by Payroll Legal Alert on January 26, 2012 5:00pm
    in Office Management,Payroll Management

    You couldn’t have direct deposit or online banking without the Automated Clearing House (ACH) network, the electronic system that handles millions of financial transactions in the United States every day. Unfortunately, online banking through the ACH network has generated a new cyber crime—ACH fraud, which is similar to good old-fashioned check fraud.
    Payroll, which makes abundant use of the ACH network for direct deposits and other transactions, is particularly vulnerable to ACH fraud. And according to the FBI, this fraud is growing, with new victims and cases opened every week.

    The new identity theft

    ACH fraud exploits valid online banking credentials. It usually begins when a company employee accesses a bank’s online cash management system to initiate ACH files for direct deposit. Typically, this employee receives a “spear phishing” email that contains an infected attachment or directs her to an infected website.
    Once the email recipient opens the attachment or visits the website, malware is installed on her computer. The malware contains a key logger that harvests the company’s bank account login information. The thieves now have all the information they need to steal your company’s identity and to begin transferring money out of your bank accounts. Moreover, the bank probably won’t question the transfers, since they look legitimate.

    Protecting the company’s bank accounts

    The FBI notes that thieves have the upper hand in designing software to defeat your defenses. Even so, follow this time-tested, four-step protection plan:

    1. Verify your bank account balances and reconcile balances often.
    2. Use complicated passwords and change them often.
    3. Limit access to the computer from which ACH transactions are initiated.
    4. Install and update firewalls and anti-virus software on that computer.

    You can also take these steps:

    • Allow only known software to be used on your computer.
    • Deny thieves any information about your company by not posting the company’s contact information and organizational chart on the company’s website.
    • Tell employees who work from home or other remote locations to take the same steps you take to protect their computers. (This is necessary because their remote computers could infect your organization’s internal computer systems.)
    • When accessing your bank’s website, don’t key information into pop-up boxes. Thieves paste popup boxes onto a bank’s website to steal information.
    • Avoid accessing web content by clicking on an email or instant message link.
    • Determine the steps your bank takes to protect customers from ACH fraud. Pay attention to the bank’s firewalls and its method for encrypting transactions and authenticating user information. Also check to see if the bank requires additional security information before authorizing a payment to a business that has never received a payment before.
    ZeekRewards.com is presently ranked as the 20th most popular website in Russia by Alexa. I don't presume all the hacking problems originate from there but it's a safe bet that many do. If ZR employs the same level of programing skills and security savvy that has typified the last few months I promise you that affiliate account and routing numbers will have a HUGE target painted on them by cyber criminals. I don't think Dan and the "Zeek Geeks" are up to the job.


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    And a late edit to say, have no fear folks noted industry expert and scam buster extraordinaire Len Clements is on the Zeek Rewards case (sorta):

    Zeek Rewards

    Over the last several months I have received more requests for commentary on Zeek Rewards than probably every other M.L.M. opportunity combined. Because I haven't commented publicly, at all, I'm now starting to get emails accusing me of accepting "hush money" to keep silent. No, that's not the case. I will never comment publicly on any person, company or product until I have exhausted all efforts to get my facts straight, which includes having the subject respond to my questions and/or concerns. Usually this isn't a challenge. Unfortunately, how this sometimes goes is that the company chooses to not participate in my inquiry, even after I practically beg them to respond to my concerns. Sometimes they say I'm just not "relevant" enough, or words to that effect, but usually they just ignore me. I then go with what I have and make negative comments about them, and then suddenly I become relevant enough to have their attorney write me a nasty letter telling me to "get your facts straight", and demanding a retraction. The letter never includes any specific points I got wrong, so I then write back asking for such clarification, and never hear from them again. (this is, by the way, exactly what happened with my PrePaid Legal exposť in 2002 - which, for the record, is no longer relevant). In the case of Zeek Rewards, I've been informed that late July is the earliest anyone from corporate can speak with me. I know they are in a state of overwhelm right now, which is why I've been patient for weeks. But, over those same weeks they seem to have no problem finding time to be interviewed by other bloggers and broadcasters. I guess I'm not as relevant. At least until my next show, when I go with what I've got.

    I'm not really sure why ZR can't find time to be interviewed by me, but I've got some insiders lobbying on my behalf, and ZR management has never shied away from public inquiry before, so I'm still hopeful the next INM show you hear will be a live interview. Only this time the interviewer won't be lobbing underhanded softballs and blowing love kisses.

    Maybe I just answered my own question.


    Len Clements
    Founder & CEO
    MarketWave, Inc.

    I do hope Len gets his interview and I hope he does asks important questions. There's no love lost between he and I but SOMEBODY in the MLM/Network Marketing community needs to step up and start asking the real questions here. If that turns out to be Len, I'll give him all the props he deserves.
    Last edited by GlimDropper; 07-15-2012 at 06:18 PM.
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    Open up your heart...

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    They have time for Troy Dooly, Red Carpet events, but not a simple phone interview by Len Clements?

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    You people give way too much credit to these self-appointed 'industry leaders'. Clem is still investigating the amega wand..........he really has no time to investigate any fraud in his chosen field.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    You people give way too much credit to these self-appointed 'industry leaders'. Clem is still investigating the amega wand..........he really has no time to investigate any fraud in his chosen field.
    Whip my old friend, you know this as well as I do. The deal here is social confirmation. Zeek Rewards would be in the dust bin if it weren't for a certain bald headed industry annalist who accorded them far more trust than they have earned. He did it because a lot of his friends (were being paid to tell him) how cool ZR is so he went to Lexington and Paul and Dawn went out of their way to be cool to him. Now he's telling everyone how cool ZR is.

    Network Marketing is a relationship industry and it's just plain good buisness to have a good relationship with guys like Troy. Why? Because when a bunch of people without a professed love for MLM get critical about one of their own, it's easy to dismiss us. We're not part of the club.

    I know what I think of Len and I think I know what you think of him but none of that matters. The issue here is what the people "inside network marketing" think of him. If Len starts asking some of the questions which other industry experts have to date refused to consider, well God bless the man. He might get some of the people on the other side of the "us vs. them" argument to start trying to do what we've been doing all along, that being warning current and potential ZR affiliates that there is no compliance course for the laws of mathematics.

    Len has yet to get his interview and he hasn't posted on the topic. It would be difficult for me to understate my optimism for his pending report. But if he applies his mensa caliber mind in an effort to point out the dangers of ZR's buisness model I'll have one reason to be less critical of the man.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    In deference to ZR, it might be more of what "they" think of Len than what others in the MLM industry think of him. Obviously so far they think higher of the "others" than they do Len, or he would have probably had his interview by now. But we only have Len's claim they are ducking him to do an interview.

    Now it also goes without saying that if they think Len is not going to give them a good review, then they will do all in their power to duck having an interview with him.

    But as you say, let's wait to see if he does get his interview and the questions he asks. Then we can determine how credible his interview truly was by how hard-hitting were his questions and their answers.
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    Mr. Clements is not as "social" as Mr. Dooly. Clements has a "podcast" of sorts, but doesn't hold a candle to Dooly's video updates.

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    As I see it, Mr Clements' major problem is, to "do a Dooly" he has to deal with the same elephant in the room Mr Dooly so assiduously ignores:

    1% or 2% a DAY is impossible to achieve and even more impossible to maintain.

    There are many legitimate High Yield INVESTMENTS, there are no High Yield Investment PROGRAMS

    Forget about comp. plans and restarts and indefinitely sustainable.

    2% or even 1% per DAY and repeatedly is where the whole thing breaks down.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    OH LRM, if only you could see how out of compliance your comment really is. The fastest way for an opportunity like ZR to wind up in trouble is for the affiliates to admit that they invested, er, emm,.OH, that they made product purchases with the expectation, anticipation, Ah the no way implied yet always delivered rate of return, increase in daily reward points to qualified affiliates. And because this isn't any form of investment or anything like that the laws of mathematics do not apply. That's the beauty part.

    And for the record there is a particularly vile and irresponsible rumor being promulgated on the internet that I want to end right here and now. There is no truth what so ever that Troy's compliance training at ZR's "Red Carpet" events consists of a simple variation of the classic three monkeys "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" with the addition of a fourth monkey representing "think no evil." The hear no evil monkey being represented by a monkey with it's hands over it ears and so on.

    The particularly pernicious part of this rumor and the reason I must lend my voice help to stamp it out right here is that the "think no evil" monkey is not represented by a plush animal toy with it's head being removed by a shotgun blast to impress upon those in attendance the consequences of not paying for the compliance course.

    Anyone who says otherwise is completely, deliberately and factually incorrect.
    Last edited by GlimDropper; 07-16-2012 at 03:42 AM.
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    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper
    OH LRM, if only you could see how out of compliance you comment really is.
    Yeah, I know.

    It's not hard to see why I'll never be seen as being an MLM guru.
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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    'the right strategy' lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    By the by, there's a comment on the "posts by others" area of the ZR facebook page purporting to have your resume. I wont post the link on the chance they fingered the wrong Chang but if they did find you, I salute you fine sir.
    They got the wrong guy. Some guy with the temerity of using the handle "Obama" posted it. Unfortunately, he got some Anthony Chang out of Virginia. Such poor Google fu they have...

    EDIT: That guy tried to post it on my hub. I nuked that comment and 3 others like it.

    The way I see it, they figure that every thing I post on my profile is fake and misleading. If I said I live on the West Coast, they look on the East Coast. If I say my name's Kasey, they assume my name is NOT Kasey. If they prefer chasing ghosts, I have no problem with that.
    Last edited by kschang; 07-16-2012 at 12:21 PM.

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    Got a report that Zeek's back to processing credit cards through Korea... "Internet Pay Gate Seoul" and "Global Kamba" this time.

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    Think no evil... Why does this reminds me so much of Cult Mind Control and Steven Hassan's BITE model?

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Hmmn, is Mr Dooly the "go to" guy and official mouthpiece for Zeek Rewards now ??



    http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4836795&postcount=854
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Hmmn, is Mr Dooly the "go to" guy and official mouthpiece for Zeek Rewards now ??



    http://www.talkgold.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4836795&postcount=854
    Don't you mean "still?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Don't you mean "still?"
    More along the lines of "now he's not even pretending to remain at arms' length"
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    Hey, a little reportage from Mr. Dooly. Randy Schroeder, President of MonaVie called ZR a ponzi on a call where he also announced that they are suing two former high level reps who left Monavie for ZR. (Link)

    I'll listen to the call linked from Troy's site as well as his comments when my current podcast finishes. But Troy expressed cation that Rex Ventures might consider a civil suit against Mr. Schroeder. I don't think that will ever happen and it isn't because drinking Monavie makes him so vital, healthy and filled with such boundless energy.

    On Edit:

    First, the link provided by Troy to the relevant MonaVie call (fast forward to the 5:50 point)

    I can find no significant basis to disagree with Mr. Schroeder and his assessment of ZR. Near astronomical returns for next to no effort has never been a sound buisness model but it's a mother effing great way to pitch a ponzi scheme. What dismays me is Troy's comments, why would a trip to Lexington change the mathematical basis of the buisness model? No one has ever claimed that Paul and Dawn aren't attractive, compelling speakers but none of that matters here. You don't go to a Penn State pep rally to investigate the Sandusky scandal in the same way you don't go to a ZR red carpet event looking for facts.

    Troy, for as disappointed you are that Mr. Schroeder called it like he saw it one day, perhaps not very far off, your readers will be disappointed with you for deliberately refusing to see ZR's buisness model through anything other than rose colored glasses.
    Last edited by GlimDropper; 07-19-2012 at 09:42 PM.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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