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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Kevin Thompson weighed in on this "revive Zeek" lawsuit.

    Mlm Company Review | MLM Help Desk

    I think if you read between the lines, that's about as scathing comment a lawyer can say on a public forum regarding a case he's not involved in. :D I think Wes said the same thing on Quatloos.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    A recent confrence call link. A bit after the 17 minute mark Robbert tells folks that he has never seen a court appointed reviver issue refunds. He should just ask Todd to put him in touch with Rust consulting.

    The call leads off with a rather fanciful recount of "how it all happened." Apparently Paul Burks is like really gullible to fall for all the lies the SEC told him about his company.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Oh, and here's what Troy said about Robert Craddock (presumably relayed by Craddock)

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    A bit after the 17 minute mark Robbert tells folks that he has never seen a court appointed reviver issue refunds.
    He's telling the truth: he had PERSONALLY NEVER SEEN ONE. :) That's because he didn't go look for any either.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Oh come on, if he didn't see it, he didn't look. Stevie Wonder could see it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlimDropper View Post
    A recent confrence call link. A bit after the 17 minute mark Robbert tells folks that he has never seen a court appointed reviver issue refunds. He should just ask Todd to put him in touch with Rust consulting.
    When Disner and Schweitzer sued the United States for alleged misdeeds in the ASD Ponzi case, they told the judge they were unaware of Rust Consulting -- the government-approved claims administrator -- having issued any remissions payments.

    Disner and Schweitzer made this claim in November 2011, WEEKS after Rust had distributed remissions payments to more than 8,400 ASD victims. The story about the remissions was in lots of newspapers. Moreover, the Justice Department issued a statement about the remissions distribution in which ASD was described as "insidious." The Secret Service described ASD as a "criminal enterprise."

    And yet Disner and Schweitzer purportedly did not know about the remissions distribution.

    The judge tossed the Disner/Schweitzer lawsuit today. A different judge earlier tossed their claim against Rust. Yes, Disner and Schweitzer sued Rust, too.

    For background:

    HAVE THE ‘GAMES’ BEGUN? AdSurfDaily Members Todd Disner, Dwight Owen Schweitzer File Lawsuit Against Government That Claims Undercover Agents Violated Firm’s Terms Of Service; Federal Prosecutors Say Money Was Seized Properly With V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Oh come on, if he didn't see it, he didn't look. Stevie Wonder could see it.
    As I said, he's in reputation management, which is just a nice way to say "spin doctor".
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    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    As I said, he's in reputation management, which is just a nice way to say "spin doctor".
    Which is a nice way to say getting paid to be a lying pig.

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    The purpose of appointing a receiver is to recover assets to return to victims. It is the NORMAL way a receivership ends. And if this bozo knew anything about enfocement actions he'd know that. I'm working on actual figures but I'd be surprised if the percentage of times the SEC took over a business with assets and didn't return all the assets left over to the victims was less than 95% of the time. They indeed have no authority to keep any assets beyond the fine, and it's not unusual for them to not get the fine if victims are not repaid.

    ETA: An SEC appointed receiver by law MUST return remaining assets to victims of a fraud. The extra money setting unclaimed in the ASD case would in fact be a quite a problem had the court appointed a receiver in that case. (they did not, BTW, that ponzi was shut down by the Secret Service and not the SEC and no receiver was appointed, the excess funds, if not depleted by restitution will go into a DOJ fund for victims of crime)

    Tell the dipshit to read this....http://www.turnaround.org/Publicatio...objectId=13592

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    from the above article

    Often the sheer number of investors involved creates a need for a receiver to handle the flood of investor calls, evaluate claims, and return proceeds, all of which can be incredibly time-consuming and costly. And given that one of the main purposes of a receivership is to return money to investors and other creditors, it is reasonable for the costs of the receivership to be borne by those who benefit from it and not by taxpayers at large. Because he or she is paid from the estate, a receiver’s appointment shifts the cost from the taxpayer to the estate.
    Put differently, the SEC’s job is one of enforcement and regulation, not running down assets on behalf of investors who may have been aggrieved. So, when it is either necessary to displace management of a defendant-company or when faced with a massive fraud involving numerous victims, the SEC often recommends one or more individuals to a judge as possible candidates to be appointed as a receiver.

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    But you know they'll spin the words to emphasize a different part...

    Often the sheer number of investors involved creates a need for a receiver to handle the flood of investor calls, evaluate claims, and return proceeds, all of which can be incredibly time-consuming and costly. And given that one of the main purposes of a receivership is to return money to investors and other creditors, it is reasonable for the costs of the receivership to be borne by those who benefit from it and not by taxpayers at large. Because he or she is paid from the estate, a receiverís appointment shifts the cost from the taxpayer to the estate.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    He was hired to stamp out opinions negative of the company with out any regard to the veracity of those opinions, this is a service he provides to other MLM companies as well. He briefly took down Kasey's Hubpage because it was easier to argue with the people who hosted the page than it was to argue what was on that page.

    Robbert could have posted comments on Kasey's page, making any corrections or clarifications he wanted and Kasey would have published each and every word and responded to him. But Mr. Craddock knows he couldn't win an argument about Zeek based on facts so he did the only thing he could do, try to win it through threats. Lying pigs are offended by any implied association between them and Robbert Craddock.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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    I haven't tried to check the IP addresses of all the commenters, and I don't know where physically Craddock is/was, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the commenters to be actually him using a handle.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    I haven't tried to check the IP addresses of all the commenters, and I don't know where physically Craddock is/was, but I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the commenters to be actually him using a handle.
    If you really cared you could perform legal phishing against RC. Create a web page with content that you want his comments on. Send him the link. Make sure it's not published or linked from any other page and then check the web access logs later. Or if it's a hosted site and you can't get the web access logs, just put an image href in there to another page hosted by someone else and when they get a hit on that page they'll email you and there you have the IP. Of course, it's imperfect, he might have multiple IP's, could be anonymizing, maybe reading this, and so this is probably useless. But if it really mattered, you could find a way...

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Quote Originally Posted by kschang View Post
    The problem is someone's gonna learn from this and make ASD 3.0 (assuming Zeek is ASD 2.0)
    Sad but true. The positive side is that both the public and the authorities are also learning from this, ASD et al and in the case of the latter are beginning to understand the pattern of these HYIPS and Ponzis and are acting faster to stop them effectively.

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    You know,

    if it wasn't so sad all this would be funny:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Just wrote a rebuttal to that "Anna Makovsky" thing. 90% sure it's written by a Zeekhead who did no research.

    A MLM Skeptic: Rebuttal to "Russian Lawyer for Zeek"
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    Apparently Craddock abandoned that Zteambiz domain and chose to have a "roger" front the website.

    Except this "Roger" is hidden by a "domain by proxy". Hmmm?
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    Roger is "Roger Johnsrud", another serial MLMer, possible Zeek member

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    Aha, confirmed Zeek affiliation Tsk tsk tsk...

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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    This guy's been a Zeek affiliate as early as October 2011.

    Cheap Electronics Auction

    I can't track him back any earlier than that.
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    Re: Zeek Rewards !! How to get to $3K a month, starting as a free member !

    Here's another site showing Roger Johnsrud as registrant:
    Roger Johnsrud Business Card
    Uhave1.com - Uhave1 - Whois Lookup, Reverse IP Lookup
    &
    promoting zeek here:
    Earn Money Online
    Source code of relevant section:

    which leads to:

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    Credit where it's due. Troy Dooly's most recent blog post. When confronting the question of which remaining Penny Auction MLMs he would recommend joining, Troy gave an answer I can endorse. I'll link to Troy if I agree with him or not, I've never doubted if his heart was in the right place but sometimes I can't figure out where his head is at. It isn't an issue of agree or disagree, it's more about the consequences of misplaced enthusiasm and the caution that should be used to avoid them.

    Thank you Troy for telling the people who look to you for advice that JBP and Banner Brokers are straight up ponzies. Not like there was ever really any question about that but with all the ponzi "street cred" you gained by being the go to PR guy for Zeek, maybe the respect you gained with ponzi promoters everywhere can be used to leverage against a few near end cycle programs.

    I'm starting to think that Troy should record all of his videos at 4:30 in the morning.
    So your prophets of finance have fallen on their collective proverbial face, and you hear muffled voices calling: Welcome to the human race.
    You made a killing dealing real estate at NASA selling cemetery plots in outer space til some falling coffins crashed upon your doorstep: Welcome to the human race.

    Open up your heart...

    Welcome to RealScam.com.

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