Thread: Gee, thanks a bunch... Lady Mod

Gee, thanks a bunch, Doc. I wouldn't call Northfield Acupuncture clinic though, I haven't worked there in over a year, nor am I a patient there any longer, my health problems were resolved. You are liable to be disappointed if you call sweetheart.

I know what excuse that George gave to Len about why it was down for a brief time, but I take it with a grain of salt. I don't care why it was down, the same thing happened before and it was down a hell of a lot longer. It's back up and running and I suspect many who left will probably go back. And they will probably come here as well.

Glad to hear your health problems were resolved - whatever they were.

Now if you actually believe "many who left will probably go back" to scam.com, I think you're delusional.

I doubt many of the regulars will be back posting there much - at least not as long as Lenny the Loser is running things there.

As I said before, I like your style, even if we don't agree too often.

But as for that piece of trash over there with the big "A" on his t-shirt that's just using up oxygen on this planet, why even waste the time posting something that the pompous prick is going to delete anyhow?

Originally Posted by Doc Bunkum

Glad to hear your health problems were resolved - whatever they were.

Now if you actually believe "many who left will probably go back" to scam.com, I think you're delusional.

Many are going back. So, I guess I'm not delusional.

I doubt many of the regulars will be back posting there much - at least not as long as Lenny the Loser is running things there.

That could be true, but then that site will just end up getting a new batch of regulars. The site will recover.

As I said before, I like your style, even if we don't agree too often.

But as for that piece of trash over there with the big "A" on his t-shirt that's just using up oxygen on this planet, why even waste the time posting something that the pompous prick is going to delete anyhow?

There are ways to post without making it easy for Len to come up with a reason to delete your post. Just takes a little creativity.
It is a problem that he is so Pro-MLM. But it was also a problem having the site so against MLM too. Nothing is going to be a perfect
match. I think it would have been better to not appoint an Admin and for George to have taken more interest in the site. I think a lot
things could have been done differently in the last 5 years I've been a moderator there. For one thing, there are ways to automatically
moderate the forums so that what has to be moderated by people effectively could be handled without having to spend hours and hours
on the site. I've had more techy members on the site tell me about them and I've always tried to get George to implement them. SubJunk,
could have actually done that for George, he had done some work for him on his other sites, but George didn't want to do that. I think
he was too much of a tight wad for it or just didn't understand how it worked.

Lots of people on both sites just use up oxygen on the planet Doc, just because they do doesn't mean you should throw in the towel and stop
fighting the good fight yourself. You are letting one person dictate how you behave. Stop attacking that one person and focus on scams and
you shouldn't have any problems. Or don't. I always liked your posts, at least any that ended up in the Political forum. I really didn't spend much
time on the MLM forum. Once in awhile some topic would catch my eye and I would hang out there for awhile, but basically, that wasn't my preference. I don't know very many of the regulars on that forum that you guys keep talking about. Some names I recognize, others, I don't.

I've told Len if he is going to participate in the threads then he has to lighten up and recognize that if you post and someone calls you out or calls your character into question a hundred times, you have three choices, address it a hundred times, address it once and ignore the rest, or ignore them all and carry on. He's going to have to spend a lot of time trying to keep those threads just to the topic. I'm thinking that allowing him to figure that out for himself and seeing where it will lead might be a good thing. That's just my opinion though. It seems that if you all left, then he won. No opposition.

If you called the ball by leaving, you kind of gave up the right to complain about the consequences, IMO.

Lady Mod @ scam.com

I never respected lady mod. She needs to go to therapy and develop some social skills

Originally Posted by Subway_Eat Fresh!!!

I never respected lady mod. She needs to go to therapy and develop some social skills

You might want to take a lesson or two yourself.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

You might want to take a lesson or two yourself.

Snappy comeback. Damn, you're quick with the lame wit.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Hmmm, I'll have to work on that, then.

How about actually working over at what should be your first priority, but never has been, scam.com? As you could see if you actually looked around over there, the place is a mess. How many different threads do you need on Lightyear? I do see that you've had a problem merging threads and the likes since it's been years since you actually did anything, but give it a shot. You might also want to observe some of the forums and move a few to the correct areas. As the Supermod, I would assume you would have intervened in the Berryview thread (my favorite) and put a stop to it. But no, Katie locked it, Len unlocked it and proceeded to rant and defend himself rather than just STFU, then locked it again. And you? Nothing as usual. Ah, right, Len is an ADMIN and that trumps your magical powers.

You're really not wanted here. My suggestion is quit while you're ahead. Should you decide not to, I shall figuratively take you to the Texarkana slaughterhouse, hang you by your cloven hoofs (or hooves), slit you down the middle, expose you as the Medusa you are, rip out your guts, and call a hazmat team in to dispose of the toxic waste. That would be a major haul from the pics you've posted of yourself. Your choice.

Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash

Snappy comeback. Damn, you're quick with the lame wit.

Not hard when it was a lame insult to begin with. You must be airplane pilot guy. Or No_Moron. Probably Tom. Nice screen name and it seems to suit you well so far.

How about actually working over at what should be your first priority, but never has been, scam.com? As you could see if you actually looked around over there, the place is a mess. How many different threads do you need on Lightyear? I do see that you've had a problem merging threads and the likes since it's been years since you actually did anything, but give it a shot. You might also want to observe some of the forums and move a few to the correct areas. As the Supermod, I would assume you would have intervened in the Berryview thread (my favorite) and put a stop to it. But no, Katie locked it, Len unlocked it and proceeded to rant and defend himself rather than just STFU, then locked it again. And you? Nothing as usual. Ah, right, Len is an ADMIN and that trumps your magical powers.

You're really not wanted here. My suggestion is quit while you're ahead. Should you decide not to, I shall figuratively take you to the Texarkana slaughterhouse, hang you by your cloven hoofs (or hooves), slit you down the middle, expose you as the Medusa you are, rip out your guts, and call a hazmat team in to dispose of the toxic waste. That would be a major haul from the pics you've posted of yourself. Your choice.

Threats? To what purpose? Would it help you sleep better at night?

Who says I'm not wanted? You? And you are???? Apparently, not someone important enough to do more than make threats and post pictures like some juvenile delinquent. SoapBoxMom had some website do that to her, it's a pretty hateful site as well as being pretty stupid. So, you are going to drop to the same level as those guys and do that to me, here? Will using the same tactics they used against her somehow make you a superior or a better person? Do you really think doing that will make this forum look more legit?

This is starting out as a really good site. Why don't you engage your brain and think twice before you decide to bring it's value down by trashing it up with your immature behavior?


Lady Mod @ scam.com

Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash

Should you decide not to, I shall figuratively take you to the Texarkana slaughterhouse, hang you by your cloven hoofs (or hooves), slit you down the middle, expose you as the Medusa you are, rip out your guts, and call a hazmat team in to dispose of the toxic waste. That would be a major haul from the pics you've posted of yourself. Your choice.

Actually, it's your choice whether or not you put the rules here to the test. Note rule #7. Then note that at the top of this forum it says the rules here are relaxed but not unmoderated.

Since I'm not running a business, I'm not a scam. I'm not selling anything, I'm not trying to steal the traffic here, I just don't qualify as any reason to get so worked up over other than I moderate on another forum that you no longer like.

So, basically, it's really YOUR choice whether or not you want this place to go down as nothing better than the site you so dislike. I don't think the increase in traffic for starting a pissing match with Lady Mod is what they had in mind here when they built this forum.

But by all means, put their integrity and rules to the test. Prove whether or not they will be better enforcers than I have been.

I'm curious to see what happens.

Lady Mod @ scam.com



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Forum: Ranting, Raving and other Ridiculous Diatribes
If you must flame, do it here. Relaxed rules but not un-moderated.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Since I'm not running a business, I'm not a scam. I'm not selling anything, I'm not trying to steal the traffic here, I just don't qualify as any reason to get so worked up over other than I moderate on another forum that you no longer like.

Are you kidding me ????
You're the worst kind of scammer.
The kind who uses their position to push such monstrous lies as
natural methods can cure cancer
Natural methods can cure diabetes
There is no proof the H.I.V. is responsible for A.I.D.S.
Even Clements and Co pale into insignificance next to you and your kind.
You're a complete and utter disgrace, and a low level one at that.
At least they're only chasing the money, and not playing with EXTREMELY desperate and vulnerable peoples' health and wellbeing.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Actually, it's your choice whether or not you put the rules here to the test. Note rule #7. Then note that at the top of this forum it says the rules here are relaxed but not unmoderated.

Since I'm not running a business, I'm not a scam. I'm not selling anything, I'm not trying to steal the traffic here, I just don't qualify as any reason to get so worked up over other than I moderate on another forum that you no longer like.

So, basically, it's really YOUR choice whether or not you want this place to go down as nothing better than the site you so dislike. I don't think the increase in traffic for starting a pissing match with Lady Mod is what they had in mind here when they built this forum.

But by all means, put their integrity and rules to the test. Prove whether or not they will be better enforcers than I have been.

I'm curious to see what happens.

Lady Mod @ scam.com



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Forum: Ranting, Raving and other Ridiculous Diatribes
If you must flame, do it here. Relaxed rules but not un-moderated.

I dont generally like to involve myself in "people politics",but to my mind SJA seems to be here merely to flame and cause unrest.Already she is insinuating that Unsaved Trash,s remark was a threat,when it was actually an amusing tongue in cheek remark.
Comments please?

Originally Posted by Father

I dont generally like to involve myself in "people politics",but to my mind SJA seems to be here merely to flame and cause unrest.Already she is insinuating that Unsaved Trash,s remark was a threat,when it was actually an amusing tongue in cheek remark.
Comments please?

I found Unsaved Trash's remarks disgusting, to be honest. But this is the rant and rave section so SJA can flame and cause unrest and people can respond however they please. I mean, this thread really is calling her out so I do think she has a right to respond (only fair).

Personally, I wouldn't dream of saying what some people have said when attempting to insult someone. But then, even though this is the internet, I try and remind myself that I'm talking to a real person. So ya, I'll call people names and be mean sometimes. But I could never actually physically threaten someone nor would I ever dream of imagining violent acts happening to anyone - including Len. But that's just me.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Actually, it's your choice whether or not you put the rules here to the test. Note rule #7. Then note that at the top of this forum it says the rules here are relaxed but not unmoderated.

Since I'm not running a business, I'm not a scam. I'm not selling anything, I'm not trying to steal the traffic here, I just don't qualify as any reason to get so worked up over other than I moderate on another forum that you no longer like.

So, basically, it's really YOUR choice whether or not you want this place to go down as nothing better than the site you so dislike. I don't think the increase in traffic for starting a pissing match with Lady Mod is what they had in mind here when they built this forum.

But by all means, put their integrity and rules to the test. Prove whether or not they will be better enforcers than I have been.

I'm curious to see what happens.

Lady Mod @ scam.com



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Forum: Ranting, Raving and other Ridiculous Diatribes
If you must flame, do it here. Relaxed rules but not un-moderated.

Thanks for all of the advice and posting of the rules for me. I was just totally clueless. Now, my Dearest Princess of Darkness, I have a few questions for you and this is just the beginning. I would really appreciate it if you would respond to them honestly.

1. Why did you return to scam.com after leaving in disgust and posting that lovely "Saying Goodbye" announcement? Afterall, George, your "very good friend" did in fact hire more mods and we cleaned up your mess. Yes, posts that went back for years. No, not ones that were just a year old, but years old. Why didn't you return to help out?

2. Is it a fact or not that once the rules were modified by SBM after consulting with all of the other mods and I personally removed your "Saying Goodbye" announcement, you did in fact return within two days to reclaim your crown? Isn't that a coincidence?

3. Did you or did you not give me holy hell for removing your announcement and jump all over SBM for modifying the rules because they no longer had your little name on them? They were basically the same rules with just a very few modifications. You jumped her big time.

4. If you don't want to get into a "pissing match," then why are you on this section at all? What was your point of coming here? Some truce!

That's all for right now. I do have a lot more but I'm just waiting to see if you'll respond with honest answers. And keep in mind that I have nearly every PM and email from you which I can use as proof in case you aren't exactly forthcoming with the truth. And no, I'm not "some pilot." You ain't that dumb.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

Are you kidding me ????
You're the worst kind of scammer.
The kind who uses their position to push such monstrous lies as
natural methods can cure cancer
Natural methods can cure diabetes
There is no proof the H.I.V. is responsible for A.I.D.S.
Even Clements and Co pale into insignificance next to you and your kind.
You're a complete and utter disgrace, and a low level one at that.
At least they're only chasing the money, and not playing with EXTREMELY desperate and vulnerable peoples' health and wellbeing.

I've posted articles and I've seen natural methods and even experienced them curing cancer. That's not a scam and I've never used my position
to "push" any kind of cures. Just shared other points of view.

You know? Until you've actually tried walking in my shoes or faced what I faced, or even conquered what
I've conquered, you might want to remain a little open minded to other possibilities than those that Big Brother
serves you during commercial breaks.

Originally Posted by Unsaved Trash

Thanks for all of the advice and posting of the rules for me. I was just totally clueless. Now, my Dearest Princess of Darkness, I have a few questions for you and this is just the beginning. I would really appreciate it if you would respond to them honestly.

1. Why did you return to scam.com after leaving in disgust and posting that lovely "Saying Goodbye" announcement? Afterall, George, your "very good friend" did in fact hire more mods and we cleaned up your mess. Yes, posts that went back for years. No, not ones that were just a year old, but years old. Why didn't you return to help out?

2. Is it a fact or not that once the rules were modified by SBM after consulting with all of the other mods and I personally removed your "Saying Goodbye" announcement, you did in fact return within two days to reclaim your crown? Isn't that a coincidence?

3. Did you or did you not give me holy hell for removing your announcement and jump all over SBM for modifying the rules because they no longer had your little name on them? They were basically the same rules with just a very few modifications. You jumped her big time.

4. If you don't want to get into a "pissing match," then why are you on this section at all? What was your point of coming here? Some truce!

That's all for right now. I do have a lot more but I'm just waiting to see if you'll respond with honest answers. And keep in mind that I have nearly every PM and email from you which I can use as proof in case you aren't exactly forthcoming with the truth. And no, I'm not "some pilot." You ain't that dumb.

No Tom, I'm not that dumb. By the tone of the post I figured it was most likely you but, there was an off chance that it was the pilot guy, since he too uses a lot of venom in his posts.

Nor am I going to reply to your questions.

Why are you worried about the past when you have a whole future of scambusting in front of you? It seems to me that all that has gone on in the past worked out the best for SBM, she now has her own site to Administrate. So, what appeared to be a bad thing at the time turned out to just be stepping stones to something she's wanted in the first place.

So, what are you continuing to bitch about? Can't you just be happy with how things turned out for your friendz? Hey, I'll bet if you asked, she would even make you a Moderator. Maybe even a Super Mod. Oooh, sounds good doesn't it? No-Moron the SuperMod! Kind of has a ring to it, don't ya think?

Originally Posted by Father

I dont generally like to involve myself in "people politics",but to my mind SJA seems to be here merely to flame and cause unrest.Already she is insinuating that Unsaved Trash,s remark was a threat,when it was actually an amusing tongue in cheek remark.
Comments please?

Maybe you should no involve yourself in this one either. I wasn't here to cause unrest or flame people, though I can give out as good as I get when the mood strikes me. Tom's remark was anything but tongue in cheek and that wasn't hard to figure out. At least, not for people with more than one brain cell bouncing around in their empty little heads.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

I've posted articles and I've seen natural methods and even experienced them curing cancer. That's not a scam and I've never used my position
to "push" any kind of cures. Just shared other points of view.

You know? Until you've actually tried walking in my shoes or faced what I faced, or even conquered what
I've conquered, you might want to remain a little open minded to other possibilities than those that Big Brother
serves you during commercial breaks.

How excellent,

I'd really like to discuss your use of the words "cure" and "possibilities" as well as asking how the h**l you know what miles I've walked in my shoes, your shoes or anyone elses' shoes.
Oh, having worked the odd hour or two in the HIV/AIDS field, I wouldn't mind seeing some of your "proof" with regard to the Human Immunodeficiency Virus NOT being responsible for A.I.D.S.

Just think, there's around 40+ MILLION HIV+ people living in the world and they're all living under the illusion the H.I.V. is responsible for A.I.D.S. but not Sojustask.

More than 25 MILLION people have died since 1981 thinking that the H.I.V. was responsible, but not Sojustask,

NO, NO, she knows it's a giant conspiracy.

A conspiracy SOOOOOOOO well carried out, it fooled every single one of those MILLIONS of people. (well, except David Icke and Sojustask)

Why, just in the relatively short time I was directly involved in the HIV/AIDS field, I stopped counting the number of people I'd met who died when the total passed a thousand. If I'd just known Sojustask at the time.

(BTW, SJA, exactly how many HIV+ and/or AIDS+ people have you met or known. Surely you're not basing your statements on something you've "heard" or "read" Surely the humanitarian side of your nature leads you to the "coalface" so to speak, where your miracle work will be more effective.

While were clarifying things,

when we're discussing "diabetes" are we talking about Type 1 (insulin dependent) diabetes or Type 2 (non insulin dependent) diabetes or Gestational diabetes ????

As we both know, most Type 2 non insulin dependent diabetes can be arrested and/or eliminated in most people by a simple weight loss/exercise program, so I guess the cases of diabetes you have seen "cured" must have been insulin dependent or gestational diabetes.

Does your "cure" work for people who've already suffered the side effects of untreated "diabetes"???? You know, the neuropathy, blindness and heart disease which have been sneaking up on the unwary victims of the "silent killer"

BTW, you DO know why diabetes is often referred to as "the silent killer" don't you ???

Silly me,

of COURSE you do.

You know how diabetes works away in the background, silently carrying out its' devious work while the victim lives in ignorant bliss.

Why, believe it or not, in your country alone there are hundreds of thousands of people who either have NO idea they are at risk, or, even worse, have convinced themselves they're "cured" because they have no obvious symptoms.

Think rust. You may not be able to see it, hear it or smell it and you may even think you've stopped it, but it's there working away 24/7 doing its' damage.

But, of course you know that.

As you well know, Ma'am, Diabetes Retinopathy related blindness is the second or third largest cause of vision impairment/blindness in the Western world.

What's so shocking is it can take 8 to 10 years before it leads to total blindness, and every minute of the time symptomless.

But your "cure" wouldn't be contributing to such a thing, would it ?????

Nah, you have "da knowledge"

Again, to be absolutely clear, when you say you've seen "cancer" cured, to which particular type of cancer are you referring ????

I checked with some of my contacts and they've kindly provided me with a list of different types of "cancer" just let your adoring public know whether your "cure" works for any or all of these cancers:

Anal cancer
Asbestos & lung disease (mesothelioma)
Bile duct cancer
Bladder cancer
Bone cancer (sarcoma)
Bowel cancer
Brain & spinal cord tumours
Breast cancer
Carcinoid tumours (neuroendocrine)
Cervical cancer
Connective tissue cancer
Endocrine cancer (thyroid)
Eye cancer
Family cancers (genetics & risk)
Gall bladder cancer
Kaposi's sarcoma
Kidney cancer
Leukaemia
Liver cancer
Lung cancer
Lymphoma (non-Hodgkin & Hodgkin)
Melanoma
Mesothelioma
Mouth, nose & throat cancers
Multiple myeloma
Oesophagus cancer
Ovarian cancer
Pancreatic cancer
Penis cancer
Peritoneal cancer
Prostate cancer
Skin cancers (non-melanoma)
Soft tissue cancers
Spinal tumours
Stomach & oesophageal cancer
Testicular cancer
Thymus cancer
Uterine cancer (cancer of the uterus)
Vaginal cancer
Vulval cancer

Please also fill us in as to how, exactly your "cure" knows how to differentiate between the many forms the disease we humans lump together as "cancer" to make communication easier.

P.S. is it true you and Mr Icke have been nominated for a Nobel Prize in medicine this year for your willingness to share your incredible "cures" with the world ????

P.P.S. Is there any way you could be persuaded to share your incredible secrets with any or all of the African nations ???? There's in excess of 30 MILLION HIV+ poor souls in Africa at the minute who are labouring under the illusion that the H.I.V. is whats' causing A.I.D.S.

Originally Posted by littleroundman

How excellent,

I'd really like to discuss your use of the words "cure" and "possibilities" as well as asking how the h**l you know what miles I've walked in my shoes, your shoes or anyone elses' shoes.

Discuss it all you want, you will discuss it alone.

And I don't know what miles you have walked anymore more than you know what I have walked, but you are the one making the accusations, not I. The last time I checked, people are still allowed to believe what they choose to believe and even voice those beliefs wherever they choose that will allow it.

I've never told anyone to stop with any of the traditional treatments and I've never had a doctor tell me that supplementing traditional treatments with alternative would negate the traditional ones. Nor have there been many doctors that I know who denied the possibilities that going straight to alternative treatments and not taking the traditional route would cure a person either. Why?

Because people are individuals and what works for one may not work for others. However, that doesn't mean that what did work for the one is a bad thing either.

Only you seem to take offence by the very thought that someone isn't walking lockstep with your beliefs. You really have tunnel vision don't you? You're right, everyone else who thinks differently is wrong no matter what they have personally seen or experienced.
LOL, you're an odd duck, to say the least.

Anyone who sells or recommends unproven treatments for life threatening diseases has a tremendous personal responsibility to a victim of those diseases. It may or may not have occured to the procurers of some of the miracle cure jungle juices that these victims are generally desperate people who are trying to save their lives.

You may or may not understand it, but it makes people who work to help victims of serious diseases angry to see lotions and potions and jungle juice pushed to these victims for profit, financial freedom or whatever you like to call it.

Money should never be an issue when trying to help people, and, even less, money made through selling MLM products. Dying of cancer is not a game or part of anyone's "belief system" - it's a very painful and frightening prospect. Of course you and everyone else are entitled to your beliefs, but remember when recommending products to someone who is desperate and clutching at straws, you have a very very big responsibility for everything you say and sell. An MLMers goal to reach financial freedom selling health products is often incompatible with the health of their customers and is sometimes a very dangerous thing.

There are plenty of complimentary remedies for cancer that already exist and some of which are recognised as helping but not curing available at a very reasonable cost with no direct selling company or MLM involved and no expensive supplements required. Diet is the best known - try reading Professor Jane Plant's works. Great suggestions to help cure, or reduce the damage of many illnesses including cancer, and not a drop of overpriced jungle juice in sight. But, of course, she is not "in it for the money", she is working towards a real solution for sufferers of serious and often mortal diseases. There are many other fine highly qualified men and women who have made it their life's work to continue towards solving the, as yet, unsolveable problem for cancer treatment. They publish their findings and they do not work for manufacturers who sell products by MLM.

Anyone who sells or recommends unproven treatments for life threatening diseases has a tremendous personal responsibility to a victim of those diseases.

Yep!

The problem is, nutritional supplements can and do cure cancer and diabetes. But it takes a lot more of it than what you can ingest orally on a daily basis and I don't care how good your product is.

However, it is half the equation. I've seen cancer reversed by Vitamin C and Hydrogen peroxide IV therapies, COPD reversed using Hydrogen peroxide therapy along with vitamin IV's.

Lady Mod

(my bolding)
scams - View Single Post - FDA defeated in federal court...

Potential in mice does not equate to treatment/prevention in humans.

According to the American Cancer Society, there is no scientific evidence that hydrogen peroxide is a safe, effective or useful cancer treatment.

Cancer Center - Complementary and Alternative Therapies

More recently, intravenous (IV) vitamin C has been touted to have different effects than does vitamin C taken orally. This has sparked renewed interest in the use of IV vitamin C as a cancer therapy. However, there is still no evidence that vitamin C has any effect on cancer.

High-dose vitamin C: Can it kill cancer cells? - MayoClinic.com

Originally Posted by Sojustask

LOL, you're an odd duck, to say the least.

HeHeHe,

You jolly joker, you.

Sojustask makes the very public claim/s that she knows of a cure for diabetes and cancer and that there is no proof the H.I.V. is responsible for A.I.D.S

says nothing in defense of her delusions when questioned

then calls the questioner an odd duck.

Backpedal any faster, can we ????

P.S. I think it's important you keep your adoring public appraised of your vital knowledge.

Forget what "WishfulThinking" says about "personal responsibility" or "ethics" or making those who deal with such diseases on a daily basis "angry"

You just keep on posting your shi......err........crackpot ide.........err......stuff and help maintain the reputation you've obviosly worked at so assiduously over recent times.

P.S.S. Apparently you missed my questions, so I've taken the liberty of reposting them so you can answer (in your own time, of course)

Here ya go:

While were clarifying things,

when we're discussing "diabetes" are we talking about Type 1 (insulin dependent) diabetes or Type 2 (non insulin dependent) diabetes or Gestational diabetes ????

As we both know, most Type 2 non insulin dependent diabetes can be arrested and/or eliminated in most people by a simple weight loss/exercise program, so I guess the cases of diabetes you have seen "cured" must have been insulin dependent or gestational diabetes.

Does your "cure" work for people who've already suffered the side effects of untreated "diabetes"???? You know, the neuropathy, blindness and heart disease which have been sneaking up on the unwary victims of the "silent killer"

BTW, you DO know why diabetes is often referred to as "the silent killer" don't you ???

Silly me,

of COURSE you do.

You know how diabetes works away in the background, silently carrying out its' devious work while the victim lives in ignorant bliss.

Why, believe it or not, in your country alone there are hundreds of thousands of people who either have NO idea they are at risk, or, even worse, have convinced themselves they're "cured" because they have no obvious symptoms.

Think rust. You may not be able to see it, hear it or smell it and you may even think you've stopped it, but it's there working away 24/7 doing its' damage.

But, of course you know that.

As you well know, Ma'am, Diabetes Retinopathy related blindness is the second or third largest cause of vision impairment/blindness in the Western world.

What's so shocking is it can take 8 to 10 years before it leads to total blindness, and every minute of the time symptomless.

But your "cure" wouldn't be contributing to such a thing, would it ?????

Nah, you have "da knowledge"

Again, to be absolutely clear, when you say you've seen "cancer" cured, to which particular type of cancer are you referring ????

I checked with some of my contacts and they've kindly provided me with a list of different types of "cancer" just let your adoring public know whether your "cure" works for any or all of these cancers:

Anal cancer
Asbestos & lung disease (mesothelioma)
Bile duct cancer
Bladder cancer
Bone cancer (sarcoma)
Bowel cancer
Brain & spinal cord tumours
Breast cancer
Carcinoid tumours (neuroendocrine)
Cervical cancer
Connective tissue cancer
Endocrine cancer (thyroid)
Eye cancer
Family cancers (genetics & risk)
Gall bladder cancer
Kaposi's sarcoma
Kidney cancer
Leukaemia
Liver cancer
Lung cancer
Lymphoma (non-Hodgkin & Hodgkin)
Melanoma
Mesothelioma
Mouth, nose & throat cancers
Multiple myeloma
Oesophagus cancer
Ovarian cancer
Pancreatic cancer
Penis cancer
Peritoneal cancer
Prostate cancer
Skin cancers (non-melanoma)
Soft tissue cancers
Spinal tumours
Stomach & oesophageal cancer
Testicular cancer
Thymus cancer
Uterine cancer (cancer of the uterus)
Vaginal cancer
Vulval cancer

Please also fill us in as to how, exactly your "cure" knows how to differentiate between the many forms the disease we humans lump together as "cancer" to make communication easier.

P.S. is it true you and Mr Icke have been nominated for a Nobel Prize in medicine this year for your willingness to share your incredible "cures" with the world ????

P.P.S. Is there any way you could be persuaded to share your incredible secrets with any or all of the African nations ???? There's in excess of 30 MILLION HIV+ poor souls in Africa at the minute who are labouring under the illusion that the H.I.V. is whats' causing A.I.D.S.

Sadly, a once prominent Ph.D., Peter Duesberg, who won international acclaim for his groundbreaking work on cancer, is now a central figure of AIDS denialism.

Bravo, LRM for some very sound common sense comments and bravo, WT for reminding all purveyors of lotions and potions that people's right to hold their own beliefs pales into insignificance if, at the same time, they are persuading sufferers of mortal diseases that their lotions and potions will save their lives. It makes me sick to hear these unproven claims being sung by people who want to sell their products. Don't they care?

There will always be dissenters to common proven treatments, including non conventional medical treaments. That doesnt give anyone the right to play russian roulette with the lives of mortally sick and desperate people. Sure there are great advances in the treatment of cancer, but noone has yet discovered the cure. We are still hoping and praying. There are foods to be eaten and foods to be avoided and other plant derived products that seem to help. And dont forget that the majority of pharmaceuticals are based on plants. I work with our cancer association and have seen first hand the benefits of good attitude and change in diet and the taking of suplements - principally in the area of prevention - but, as yet, I have never seen any guaranteed cures. I have also never seen any of the supplements used being from MLM companies either

The same goes for HIV and AIDS. Noone who is fortunate enough to receive medications to control HIV (based on the premise that HIV and AIDS are linked and which are very expensive) is going to give them up for an MLM product and risk their life. Anyone who tries to tell them different is just plain irresponsible. If it is ever proved that there is no link, then so be it. Then qualified professionals who care about human life will surely develope treatments on that basis. Until such time we are back to the purveyors of these products putting their beliefs and desire to make money through them before their sense of humanity and responsibility.

There's quite a good standard to use if you think these products are so great. Would you use them on your own child, if they were suffering from cancer or aids? I wouldn't and I'll bet 99.9% of the people who sell them wouldn't either. So much for "belief".

The sickening aspect of the discussions by those who promote these products is that they hurl insults at the critics that they are anti-mlm zealots or some such nonsense. Maybe the critics are simply people who care?

Originally Posted by alasycia

The sickening aspect of the discussions by those who promote these products is that they hurl insults at the critics that they are anti-mlm zealots or some such nonsense. Maybe the critics are simply people who care?

Or maybe, just maybe,

the critics have seen at first hand and up close and personal what happens when one/some of these self appointed "experts" gets a hold on someone who has one of the diseases in question.

By the very nature of that which we're discussing, there are none of their victims around to dispute the crap they spout.

Hell, "sojustask" doesn't (or didn't) even know there is more than one type of diabetes,

The silly woman still considers "cancer" to be a singular condition, treatable by a single therapy.

"One size fits all" cancer therapy. What a concept.

As for her ideas on the H.I.V./A.I.D.S connection and her assertion/s that the millions upon millions of current and deceased victims were all under some sort of conspiracy or illusion, the less said the better.

Originally Posted by Sojustask

Maybe you should no involve yourself in this one either. I wasn't here to cause unrest or flame people, though I can give out as good as I get when the mood strikes me. Tom's remark was anything but tongue in cheek and that wasn't hard to figure out. At least, not for people with more than one brain cell bouncing around in their empty little heads.

Thanks for the kind reply.Be careful that your sharp tongue doesnt cut you.
Looks like the membership on this board have you all weighed up,and then some!

Originally Posted by Sojustask

No Tom, I'm not that dumb. By the tone of the post I figured it was most likely you but, there was an off chance that it was the pilot guy, since he too uses a lot of venom in his posts.

Nor am I going to reply to your questions.

Wise move. I'll give you credit for that.

Why are you worried about the past when you have a whole future of scambusting in front of you? It seems to me that all that has gone on in the past worked out the best for SBM, she now has her own site to Administrate. So, what appeared to be a bad thing at the time turned out to just be stepping stones to something she's wanted in the first place.

So, what are you continuing to bitch about? Can't you just be happy with how things turned out for your friendz? Hey, I'll bet if you asked, she would even make you a Moderator. Maybe even a Super Mod. Oooh, sounds good doesn't it? No-Moron the SuperMod! Kind of has a ring to it, don't ya think?

I think SBM would have been happy to have remained at scam.com had you not banned her, belittled her on the public forums, etc., but this opportunity came along and she was asked to be an ADMIN. I was asked to be a moderator. I declined. That was a smart move on my part, especially since I told the owner one of my reasons was that I wasn't out so much to scambust but for revenge. Not a good reason to be a mod on this type of site. The fun ended for me at scam.com in that area and if I don't enjoy something, I'm smart enough to pass.

On a personal level, I don't like you but I do respect you for castrating Len. There was never any doubt in my mind and should he contiue, you shall prevail. I predicted that from the very beginning. Of that, you should be proud. And that is a compliment.

Or maybe, just maybe,

the critics have seen at first hand and up close and personal what happens when one/some of these self appointed "experts" gets a hold on someone who has one of the diseases in question.

By the very nature of that which we're discussing, there are none of their victims around to dispute the crap they spout.

Ergo the standard test I suggested

Would you use them on your own child, if they were suffering from cancer or aids?

I dont know the Lady Mod, but judging from some of her replies on scam.com, she seems to have a fairly impressive opinion of her own opinions. Patronizing is a word that comes to mind. Irrespective of anything she may be able to do to show up Len Clements on that board (whose juvenile level of posting has to be seen to be believed), I'd be surprised if she impressed any new readers to that forum with her sanguine objectivity. Noone who promotes unproven treatments for mortal diseases deserves much respect in my book, whatever the financial benefits to the seller. We have quite enough problems with vested interest in the pharmaceutical industry without adding "belief sellers" to the equation.