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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post

    So how do people like Stepsys etc manage to withdraw all that money that they boast about each month? Technically it's not possible according to the rules that BB have put in place.
    refwhores aka pimps aka shills aren't "regular" members, neither do they claim to be.

    When they quote how much they've received from Banners Broker, they aren't technically lying.

    Readers just "assume" they make their money like everyone else under the same terms and conditions as everybody else.

    Some of the big winners/shills/pimps/insiders in Zeek Rewards have been shown by the receiver as having received as much as $2million from Zeek while contributing as little as $1500 of their own money.

    In cash terms giving the selected insiders/shills/pimps a swag of "panels" or "positions" costs the fraudsters nothing. It's part of the cost of doing business to them.

    It then becomes in the recipients' best interest to keep the HYIP ponzi alive as long as possible.

    The longer it lasts and the more new recruits he/she brings in, the more his/her "panels" "adpacks" "positions" "earnings" or whatever the particular HYIP ponzi is "selling" increase in value.
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    @LRM

    Thank you for explaining. Clear and simple. Easy to read, easy to understand.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Someone may find something of use here: Open Site Explorer

    It'll take a lot of digging though.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Make sure your antivirus is active if following some of the links on that page. Blackhole exploit.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    IMPORTANT!

    Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com

    Well, if you have a snoop around.
    The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ

    The Whois for that is:

    Registrant Name: Marcus Brewer
    Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
    Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
    Registrant City: Des Moines
    Registrant State/Province: Iowa
    Registrant Postal Code: 50312
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Country Code: US

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting Connection&#82

    ProfHenryHiggins seems to have heard of him before:

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting Connection&#82

    ProfHenryHiggins
    Dec 1, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Permalink
    Actually, Don, that blog appears to belong to one Pastor Marcus Brewer in Indiana. The kind of “pastor” who gives all Christians a bad name, Mr. Brewer falls for just about every pie in the sky scheme out there that he sees. From energy drinks and wireless phone plans to gifting frauds, he’s an equal opportunity bandwagon jumper.

    Other examples from the same man include:
    Pathway to gold gifting: Pathway to Gold Gifting
    150cash
    Retire With Me
    http://www.whatbusinesstodo.com/profiles/100655
    I hear he's a well-known.

    OPINIONS?

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    It is not unusual for an HYIP scheme to hire/use/otherwise employ a purported spokesperson/PR manager. The AdViewGlobal scam had such a person; the ASD scam had several of them.

    At the same time, it's not unusual for "defenders" of "programs" to try to dial up stalking and harassment campaigns against antiscam sites -- even as a purported spokesperson is out there trying to soften the image of a "program" or trying otherwise to appear reasonable.

    In the JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scam, the female conference-call host -- a de facto spokeswoman -- had a voice made for radio. She talked like the "program" somehow was real in a real-world sense, but it was an obvious fraud scheme.

    One of ASD's spokespeople later became involved in a campaign to encourage affiliates not to file for remissions (effectively restitution from seized fraud proceeds). She cited purported "legal" opinions from a man who turned out to be "sovereign citizen" implicated in a plot to file false liens against public officials who had a role in the ASD Ponzi case. There was a side effort to plant the seed that any person who filed for remissions or otherwise cooperated with law enforcement would be sued by a group of the scheme's insiders.

    The only safe thing to assume about these schemes is that the perpetrators and "defenders" are capable of anything.

    PPBlog

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by PPBlog View Post
    It is not unusual for an HYIP scheme to hire/use/otherwise employ a purported spokesperson/PR manager. The AdViewGlobal scam had such a person; the ASD scam had several of them.

    At the same time, it's not unusual for "defenders" of "programs" to try to dial up stalking and harassment campaigns against antiscam sites -- even as a purported spokesperson is out there trying to soften the image of a "program" or trying otherwise to appear reasonable.

    In the JSSTripler/JustBeenPaid scam, the female conference-call host -- a de facto spokeswoman -- had a voice made for radio. She talked like the "program" somehow was real in a real-world sense, but it was an obvious fraud scheme.

    One of ASD's spokespeople later became involved in a campaign to encourage affiliates not to file for remissions (effectively restitution from seized fraud proceeds). She cited purported "legal" opinions from a man who turned out to be "sovereign citizen" implicated in a plot to file false liens against public officials who had a role in the ASD Ponzi case. There was a side effort to plant the seed that any person who filed for remissions or otherwise cooperated with law enforcement would be sued by a group of the scheme's insiders.

    The only safe thing to assume about these schemes is that the perpetrators and "defenders" are capable of anything.

    PPBlog
    Patrick, I just took the above quote from your website, hope you don't mind!
    It mithered me about a license?

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    I am going to take you back to 2004 and a program called PIPS ... The person who ran the show was a man by the name of Bryan Marsden, and he operated out of Malaysia ... this was my first exposure to Ponzi's.
    Aaah yes, I remember it well... my first exposure to Ponzis, too. Only unlike your sagely self, I lost a few hundred quid to it. Mind you, Marsden (and his wife) did lose a lot more... their liberty inside a Malaysian jail. So you could say I'm once bitten, twice shyster savvy.
    "There's a sucker born every minute"... which wouldn't be so bad if there wasn't a sociopath to exploit them born every hour.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Welcome to RealScam, Mark.
    Thank you! Happy to be here.

    Mark

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    To my knowledge and based on my experience, Paypal does not like MLM's or any company that resembles one. As a result, they would either not accept BB or would quickly freeze the account if they were accepted.

    I can confidently say is has NOTHING to do with fees.

    Mark

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    IMPORTANT!

    Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com

    Well, if you have a snoop around.
    The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ

    The Whois for that is:

    Registrant Name: Marcus Brewer
    Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
    Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
    Registrant City: Des Moines
    Registrant State/Province: Iowa
    Registrant Postal Code: 50312
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Country Code: US

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR

    ProfHenryHiggins seems to have heard of him before:

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR



    I hear he's a well-known.

    OPINIONS?

    Jason
    Do note: Globalcommunityproject.biz has expired now.
    Just have a look at any ties between Marcus and Banners Broker.

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Welcome sally and mark!

    Anyone able to calculate the price difference between payza, paypal.. Etc? I tried but between howthe info is displayed and my limited knowledge in these services i couldnt do much calculating.
    I just figured itd be a more solid hit to TS's credibility than simply stating that fees arent an issue.

    TJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by silly sally View Post
    Hi, everyone. I have been following this thread for almost a year but obviously this is my first post. I found this forum when a friend joined BB and sung its praises to me. He is either naive or a total scammer- he is a total believer. I hope that it's the former...

    I have found some interesting information regarding the American side of things, but would rather pass it along to the regulars here to do what they wish with it.
    I'd have no idea where to start. Please PM me if you would like to hear it.

    -Sally
    Post away....Right here for all to see will be just fine.

    And welcome to realscam
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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    Terry Stern (LION) | Entrepreneur & Business Networking | EFactor

    That's him - but no mention of anything with him being Stellar Point on the "Official channels".
    He did say he would email me - but has not. Could be 'cause he hasn't got a Stellar Point email address?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Della Cate View Post
    Just found this on BB Facts and Updates, this is the cut and paste and I will post the screenshot.

    It was posted approx 12 minutes ago.

    Note to all who post on this page.

    Anyone who posts negative comments will be deleted and some users may be banned.

    BB has always paid out eventually folks,your payments will be paid in due course and there will be panel movement in the near future. They are changing the servers again to better their service which can only be for our benefit.

    Please be patient and most importantly stay positive.

    Have a wonderful day!
    "Changing the servers again" would be code for "waiting for more new members to bring in new money".

    Mark

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    IMPORTANT!

    Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com

    Well, if you have a snoop around.
    The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ

    The Whois for that is:

    Registrant Name: Marcus Brewer
    Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
    Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
    Registrant City: Des Moines
    Registrant State/Province: Iowa
    Registrant Postal Code: 50312
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Country Code: US

    I hear he's a well-known.

    OPINIONS?

    Jason
    Is that the Pastor mentioned further up the thread (early stuff). I dimly (yes it's Friday pm) recall seeing a youtube video by him. No more a Pastor that I'm a piece of spaghetti (on the internet no-one knows you're spaghetti). All smarmy and horrid he was but full of fervour for little old schemes to make us all rich.
    Last edited by AshKen1; 01-18-2013 at 12:12 PM. Reason: Friday afternoon typo correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    IMPORTANT!

    Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com

    Well, if you have a snoop around.
    The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ

    The Whois for that is:

    Registrant Name: Marcus Brewer
    Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
    Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
    Registrant City: Des Moines
    Registrant State/Province: Iowa
    Registrant Postal Code: 50312
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Country Code: US

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR

    ProfHenryHiggins seems to have heard of him before:

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR



    I hear he's a well-known.

    OPINIONS?

    Jason
    MarcusBrewerlink.jpg

    Just a screenshot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post
    Is that the Pastor mentioned further up the thread (early stuff). I dimly (yes it's Friday pm) recall seeing a youtube video by him. No more a Pastor that I'm a piece of sphaghetti (on the internet no-one knows you're spaghetti). All smarmy and horrid he was but full of fervour for little old schemes to make us all rich.
    I searched the thread but couldn't find a mention of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    I searched the thread but couldn't find a mention of him.

    Jason
    Pretty sure I've seen him in a video - maybe youtube? One of the others is sure to know :)

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    Re: Banners Broker HYIP ponzi scam

    http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=137581

    Scum.com thread about Marcus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AshKen1 View Post
    Pretty sure I've seen him in a video - maybe youtube? One of the others is sure to know :)
    www.Our6FigureLifeStyle.com - YouTube

    Only know about this one. His holiness goes by the name of Pastor David Duncan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    IMPORTANT!

    Ad Spy for Google Analytics-UA-10738267 | domaincrawler.com

    Well, if you have a snoop around.
    The Google analytics ID used on Bannersbroker.com is used on the website: GLOBALCOMMUNITYPROJECT.BIZ

    The Whois for that is:

    Registrant Name: Marcus Brewer
    Registrant Organization: Deliverance Temple
    Registrant Address1: 2815 High st
    Registrant City: Des Moines
    Registrant State/Province: Iowa
    Registrant Postal Code: 50312
    Registrant Country: United States
    Registrant Country Code: US

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR

    ProfHenryHiggins seems to have heard of him before:

    STRANGENESS PILES UP: OWOW ’8G Zip Drive Stick’ Offered From Non-Existent Address Of ’123 Internet St.’ In Des Moines, Iowa; Similar Bogus Address Of ’123 Online St.’ Advertises ‘Global Gifting ConnectionR



    I hear he's a well-known.

    OPINIONS?

    Jason
    For anyone not 'down with' Google analytics IDs this is an ID that ONE company or individual uses on THEIR sites as they HAVE to have access to the website to verify the website through Google. So, it shows a very significant link between Marcus and Banners Broker. Even that Marcus is the man behind it all. Purely speculation.

    I won't quote that post again. I promise.

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    @ Jason

    you see, this is the stuff that you guys can find that amazes me, problem is, I don't understand it's relevance or what it means though ?

    I see connections with BB, silverline, bbv1 but are you saying that the same owners own all the sites?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenda View Post
    @ Jason

    you see, this is the stuff that you guys can find that amazes me, problem is, I don't understand it's relevance or what it means though ?

    I see connections with BB, silverline, bbv1 but are you saying that the same owners own all the sites?
    By the very nature of a Google Analytics ID - it's one company or individual that uses that ID. No one else should.
    They could ... if someone had access to the Google account and the website that they want to verify.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poyol View Post
    By the very nature of a Google Analytics ID - it's one company or individual that uses that ID. No one else should.
    They could ... if someone had access to the Google account and the website that they want to verify.

    Jason
    thank you!

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