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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Seems our T2 admin freakr8/detecht/oh-never-mind, has hit upon a new way to suck in traffic, keep it "positive" and create a bunch of paid tattle-tales at the same time

    Note that he'll give 3 points for a negative report AND subtract 5 points from the person reported...WTF is that a preschool class over there???
    Makes the "members" responsible for when "naysayers" move into negative point territory and are banned.
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    Just as expected, Peakr8/David Bell blames everything on members and throws in the towel. That was a well thought out scam, with a new excuse every step of the way with members responsible for everything that 'went' wrong.


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    Posted Today, 12:18 PM

    I keep trying to tell people that we know about this.

    I keep telling people that it is because we have 2 subscription systems running at the moment.

    I keep telling people that we will be deleting one of them soon and everything will be returned to normal.

    I keep telling people not to send in support tickets about it.

    I am at the end of my capabilities. I have 167 support tickets this morning alone. I can't manage T2 any longer I am afraid to say. I get very rude tickets, i get abuse, I get threats and I get insults! I have worked very hard, and it seems i am not able to run this program any longer. I just don't have the energy and the job is getting harder by the day.

    With the alertpay issue, I am just completely drained. i had no holiday over Christmas, my kids never got to see me apart from twice in the past 5 weeks. I am returning to thailand in a couple of days. There is nothing here left to be sorted out.

    T2 is a 4 man job (minimum) and I just don't have the human resources to do it right. People won't wait, they have no patience where monery is concerned, and I am starting to dispise the day i ever agreed with Chris to do this project. If I had known then what I know now, I would have ran a mile.

    This is ruining my life.

    I will advise the members later, i need to think and make my final decision.

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    All together now:


    a-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w diddums.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    All together now:


    a-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w-w diddums.
    Now the fun begins:
    Give me a day to think it all through. I need to get away from the internet to let my head cool down a bit. I will think of a formula that will enable us to move forwards, but i am damned if I will be working with AP in the future. They know I am the rightful controller, and they should be considering what is best for their members and one of their bigger merchants.

    They even know that Chris has been building that account without authority, but still they took money into it, until I intervened. The were obviously regarding Chris as the rightful operator.

    OPne thing is for sure... I have enough evidence on Chris Kayne to actually pursue a criminal fraud case against him. He will be in police custody by the end of the day.

    He withdrew money to his credit card via stp and was doing it almost daily until he was challenged. So that is theft. He is going to prison, he could have avoiderd this, but he chose to play a game.... He never thought I would get hold of the full transaction history of his wrongdoings, as well as his IP address..

    The money is not enough to make a negativer impact on the program finances, but like I said... it is big enough to put him behind bars and get a lifetime ban from internet access.
    So the operator of a ponzi is going to go to the police and swear out a complaint against his "partner"? Really??
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Now the fun begins:

    So the operator of a ponzi is going to go to the police and swear out a complaint against his "partner"? Really??
    Please, please, please make him as silly as he sounds and let him actually do what he's threatening.
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    Re: jsstripler2

    The queen of pimps calling BS on Dave:


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    Posted Today, 05:42 PM

    Wait a minute, Dave.

    THIS IS RUINING YOUR LIFE???

    THIS IS RUINING YOUR LIFE???

    Truly you jest!

    I read MMG.
    I came back to read the forum believing I can find some level-headed common-sense update or post from you.

    And you got your panties up in a twist because there are some people who don't like you. BIG DEAL!
    And because you are getting a lot of support tickets because YOUR software is broken and is taking $10 out of people's backoffices incorrectly?? BIG DEAL!

    DAVE!

    LISTEN UP!

    YOU ARE A BUSINESS OWNER!

    Getting overwhelmed by a few hundred support tickets is so minor, your over-exaggerated post has got me shaking my head.

    YOU ARE UPSET ABOUT RECEIVING A BOATLOAD OF SUPPORT TICKETS?

    Yet and still YOU were the one who publicly proclaimed that JBP didn't know what they were doing and YOU could do much better.

    Dear Dave. YOU ARE THE MAN HERE SO FREAKIN MAN UP AND STOP WHINING!

    Whining about missing holidays and lack of sleep when starting a small startup business??

    WELCOME TO THE BUSINESS OWNERS CLUB, DAVE!

    THAT COMES WITH THE TERRITORY BY DEFAULT!

    And the worst part of your crying tantrums is that you haven't experienced NOTHING in terms of what I've experienced in a smaller program I owned.

    JBP experienced WORST at the beginning of their deal than you dare to know.

    Owners of straightline matrix games have experienced much more than the 'the members are ruining my life by calling me names' problems you have encountered.

    Honey, I offer no apologies.

    But if you are telling me that rude people, a boatload of tickets, lack of sleep, is cause for re-considering T2, then I tell you this, young man ... you had absolutely NO intention of making this an 'infinitely sustainable' deal from the beginning.

    A Sustainable online business alone takes big time sacrifices ... Time away from family and friends, customer support abuses, negotiating and dealing with outside entities such as payment processors, server crashes, hacker attempts, attacks from those idiots at the scam forums, cashflow issues, unfulfilled contracts and MUCH MUCH MORE!

    STOP FREAKIN' WHINING and RUN THE DARN BUSINESS! AND STOP INSULTING MY INTELLIGENCE!

    YOUR LIFE IS NOT RUINED. IF THIS SMALL ISSUE DRIVES YOU OVER A CLIFF, THEN BOY, YOU HAVEN'T EVEN LIVED YET.

    I'VE GONE THROUGH MUCH MORE THAN THIS IN A DAY!

    And don't even begin to use this post as a reason for your premature retirement.

    I Am a software engineer of 27+ years and the problems you are having are soooo easy to fix. You can find a child to get the software fixed within 2 days.

    If this post causes you to kick me out of the forum then so be it. But do not mess with me as I am not up for it. I am just stating my opinion. And YES, I am raising my tone at you because you continue to do it to us, your supportive members who was on your side from day 1, Dave.

    T2 is NOT a 4-man job. It is currently a small program which you were supposed to BUILD.

    Get to work!

    Faith Sloan

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    Slowly, ever so slowly the truth comes out, pointed out by one of their own pimps:

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    Posted Today, 05:56 PM

    By the way, those of you who have paid over 30 days ago will NOT receive a refund from AP. Dave knows this.

    And if the account is STILL uhhhh frozen, then you won't get anything any way.

    So you might as well take a chill pill and wait for Dave to clear his head and DO THE RIGHT THING -- that is ..
    Build T2.

    EDITED: Dave wrote: "I will contact AP and give them full authority to refund every cent whether 30 days or not, that has been taken in the name of the T2 program."

    DAve, I thought you had no authority over the account since AP will not recognize you as the rightful owner? I thought Chris was. And if you have authority, then we have no problem at all, right? ;)

    Faith Sloan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danni View Post
    Slowly, ever so slowly the truth comes out, pointed out by one of their own pimps:
    It actually seems to be flying off the rails like a runaway freight. Of course the Prince of Pimps Ken Russo hadda jump in with this:
    The relatively few members who are demonstrating impatience along with their demand for a refund should
    be taken care of and deleted from the program and this forum. Their continued presence here will only
    create more anxiety and frustration.
    So what is more destructive? Having some critics around to point out problems, or a stable full of? If no one is allowed to voice problems or concerns, how do you identify those problems and correct them??
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Danni View Post
    The queen of pimps calling BS on Dave:
    She seems upset he's not replying to all her 'support tickets' about when she can expect more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    She seems upset he's not replying to all her 'support tickets' about when she can expect more money.
    LOL, just think how much flack she'd get if she where a naysayer...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    And the worst part of your crying tantrums is that you haven't experienced NOTHING in terms of what I've experienced in a smaller program I owned.
    Faith Sloan makes a valid point here....Hahahahahahahaha.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    Faith Sloan makes a valid point here....Hahahahahahahaha.....
    Hehehehe it's serious when a queen pimp calls out calls the admin a drama queen...!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    The main unanswered question in all of this is:

    does anyone believe a single word that's come out of Dave / peakr8 / detecht / admins mouth ???

    I mean, c'mon Davey,

    this round has finished and either you haven't got the stomach to try for another round or you're waiting for your fanbois to plead and beg for you to reconsider.


    Geez, Louise, more drama than Days of Our Lives (and twice as boring)
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    The main unanswered question in all of this is:

    does anyone believe a single word that's come out of Dave / peakr8 / detecht / admins mouth ???

    I mean, c'mon Davey,

    this round has finished and either you haven't got the stomach to try for another round or you're waiting for your fanbois to plead and beg for you to reconsider.


    Geez, Louise, more drama than Days of Our Lives (and twice as boring)
    LOL, Now they are trying to hide the meltdown! About 4 pages of the T2 forum has disappeared! Of course most of those 4 pages are already out across the internet but that's another story.

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    What I find funny is that when this all started Dave was pimping this in the JBP thread....Said he was gonna show how it should be done....Said he was gonna take the JBP idea and make it better...
    So here we are 2 months later....JBP still going and Dave's T2 is dead....
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    Quote Originally Posted by baylee View Post
    LOL, Now they are trying to hide the meltdown! About 4 pages of the T2 forum has disappeared! Of course most of those 4 pages are already out across the internet but that's another story.
    Won't be long now and the whole forum will disappear!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by okosh View Post
    What I find funny is that when this all started Dave was pimping this in the JBP thread....Said he was gonna show how it should be done....Said he was gonna take the JBP idea and make it better...
    So here we are 2 months later....JBP still going and Dave's T2 is dead....
    I never thought about that but now I find it quite Ironic.

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    Round 1 is over....Stand by for round 2.....

    Ok guys.

    Thank you so much for all the offers of help. I was feeling really bad 24 hours ago. There is a lot more going on behind the scenes with my personal family life. Lolalola is the only person who knows exactly the full extent to what I am personally going through. I won't go into it all, but it is not something I would wish on other people.

    T2 has not made things easy for me. By that, I don't mean I am not man enough to handle all the drama and the workload that it brings. It is the combination of the 2 things pulling against each other. Things were a lot different in Thailand. I had no distractions there and I was free to work 20 hours a day without being dragged here and there and put in a lot of incredibly emotional situations.

    So anyway. I have taken the decision to fly back to Thailand on Saturday. My flight is booked and I once I get back, it will remove a huge load of stress from me, and will help to unclutter my mind. That is what is needed here.

    But in the meantime, I have been trying to think through a resolution that can help to put T2 firmly back on the road to recovery. I am currently 80% there with a plan that could probably allow me to pull this off without anyone losing a penny, and everyone keeping their accounts as well as all of their referrals, and also enable a full migration from AP to STP and quite possible adding OKPay as well.

    Dittoteam came up with some great measures, I know will not be popular with everyone, but in the bigger picyure, it allows a safe route to recovery for everyone. That is what is the most important thing at this moment. But limping along like this with nothing but hope that AP and Chris comes round to help us, is not the way forward.

    It will also involve some of the emergency (soft) measures from the infinity machine. As a matter of fact, I think I can get this set right again with a limited amount of soft measures that will be distributed evenly across the member base, as not to place an excessive burden on any particular set of members.


    Anyway... I think you can all draw your conclusions that I am not going to dump you, especially after the many posts I have read in here in the past day/night. I could not do that, I would not do that.

    I will be happy to accept all the offers of help from the members. The support tickets is not an easy one to help on... you need to know the script inside out, and quite a bit of training needs to be given, a lot of rummaging around the database etc...

    But I will have a good think over the coming days. See if we can't find a few things to do.

    Dave.
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    It's not generally known, but back in Thailand, "Dave" is a fourth generation livestock handler.

    "Daves" great grandfather was in shipping bulls.

    "Daves" grandfather was into shipping bulls.

    "Daves" father also shipped bulls.

    And "Dave" ???

    "Dave" is one of the biggest bullshippers ever to come out of South East Asia.
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    Ha ha ha ha. The typical 'everyone has begged me to come back' and 'I have a family crisis you'd never understand' tripe. Drama queen can't figure out how to get out with the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whip View Post
    Ha ha ha ha. The typical 'everyone has begged me to come back' and 'I have a family crisis you'd never understand' tripe. Drama queen can't figure out how to get out with the money.
    Yeah,

    I can't quite figure out why he doesn't do what all the other "honest Admins" do.

    Run away with the money, then create or buy another ID and start all over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    It's not generally known, but back in Thailand, "Dave" is a fourth generation livestock handler.

    "Daves" great grandfather was in shipping bulls.

    "Daves" grandfather was into shipping bulls.

    "Daves" father also shipped bulls.

    And "Dave" ???

    "Dave" is one of the biggest bullshippers ever to come out of South East Asia.
    Don't know his family history, but he IS a major purveyor of bull by-products....!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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    Quote Originally Posted by laidback View Post
    Don't know his family history, but he IS a major purveyor of bull by-products....!
    I am sure we will see more by-products coming soon as round two of this scam is going to launch soon! peakr8/davidbell/whatshisname has used most of the excuses on pages 7, 8, and 9 of the scammers handbook. I completely understand there are more pages and he might try to use them all!

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    Patrick Pretty's Latest:

    JSS Tripler 2 (T2) Creates Another Bizarre Ponzi-Land Spectacle; Purported Operator Purportedly Takes Off For Thailand After Threatening Purported One-Time Business Partner In Wake Of Purported AlertPay Freeze
    By PatrickPretty.com 10:44 am Jan 9, 2012

    Link:

    JSS Tripler 2 (T2) Creates Another Bizarre Ponzi-Land Spectacle; Purported Operator Purportedly Takes Off For Thailand After Threatening Purported One-Time Business Partner In Wake Of Purported AlertPay Freeze

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    Quote Originally Posted by baylee View Post
    Patrick Pretty's Latest:

    JSS Tripler 2 (T2) Creates Another Bizarre Ponzi-Land Spectacle; Purported Operator Purportedly Takes Off For Thailand After Threatening Purported One-Time Business Partner In Wake Of Purported AlertPay Freeze
    By PatrickPretty.com 10:44 am Jan 9, 2012

    Link:

    JSS Tripler 2 (T2) Creates Another Bizarre Ponzi-Land Spectacle; Purported Operator Purportedly Takes Off For Thailand After Threatening Purported One-Time Business Partner In Wake Of Purported AlertPay Freeze
    LOL, Superdave oughtta be so proud. He's hit the big time with attention from PP!
    It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!

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