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    Trying to explain to a serial ponzi pimp like stacy532 why both a Federal court judge and the SEC agreed Traffic Monsoon is operating illegally is akin to trying to describe nuclear physics to someone who still believes the sun revolves around the earth or trying to herd cats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soapboxmom View Post
    Stacy, read that a million times and print it out and put it under your pillow so perhaps it will sink in through osmosis. 99.6% of the money coming in to TM is from those AdPacks. How are all the investors that were promised $55 from each pack they paid for going to get paid????? It is a ponzi math game and the investors are guaranteed to lose big.
    If he only shares a % of what comes in each day to pay his clickers and never varies from that number how can he ever be upside down .. Sure there is more clickers to feed than on day one but there are also many more people spending money on services.. I guess he could have hidden how much the earning cap is and not get looked at .. Thats what neobux does.. They let u buy upgrades to earn more money than a free member.. But you have no idea how long you will earn more cause your earning cap or up to amount is not openly announced.. If no one ever profited from the upgrades they would have stopped buying them 8 years ago..

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    Then, entirely predictably, they started turning on each other:



    The TrafficMonsoonTeam page on Facebook
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribshaw View Post
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    Let's play your game for a few minutes. I hate for you to think sleight of hand is being used to belittle your poor Charles.

    $204,000,000 Buys 4,080,000 Ad Packs

    $20,400,000 is paid in commissions per 19 below.
    $9,180,000 pays TM expenses per 19 below.
    $3,060,000 is paid to the programmer per 19 below
    -------------------------------------------------------------

    $171,360,000 remains after expenses
    $3,000,000 added back from the 8 great products.

    $174,360,000 is available to pay ad packs that without dime one of "revenue share" are due $204,000,000. Clicks, word salad, cries about Social Security are all immaterial. For every pack sold Monsoon owes more than it has the ability to pay. That gap started on day one and only grew. Since we know some people are adept enough at scamming to hit it and quit it the true numbers will look worse.



    19. Of the $50 paid for each AdPack, Scoville distributes10% as a commission to the person who introduced the investor; 4.5% for payment of Traffic Monsoon expenses; 1.5% to the
    company’s programmer
    ; 79% to the company reserve fund; and 5% to a fund for sharing profit with Ad Pack purchasers https://www.sec.gov/litigation/compl.../comp23604.pdf




    He should swing by Las Vegas, for Scoville to be in the green at any level of ad packs, or any number of dollars would be some elfin magic the likes of which these two have never seen.

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    A Ponzi scheme (also a Ponzi game or a Ponzi)[1] is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned through legitimate sources. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme




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    Your assuming that all future sales of service just stop with a 30$ million deficit..with your 173 vs 204 .. With all this doom and gloom why would anyone ever sell any service or product when u have to pay expenses. And wages... When a real business as you call it starts selling less services than expenses its a paradise as its a legal sec cleared business to fold and people lose a job.. Its a great perfectly natural thing to have happen .. No business can print money .. No one will work for free..

    Charles cant print money and no one wants to clicks ads for free.. A business or a job does not need to have the total amount of money that it will pay in expenses and wages for the next 365 days at its disposal now .. Everyone clearly realizes that the business or employeer is going to have to pay those future expenses and liabilities from future services or produts it sells .. Why force the monsoon into a have to prove it has enough money to pay its clickers over the next 60-365 days when any offline business is never held to those standards? To me it makes no sense..

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    And the circle jerk logic goes round and round and round and round.

    But then stacy doesn't believe that payments of the 10% ROI and the 10% referral commissions to the members are debt either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    And the circle jerk logic goes round and round and round and round.

    But then stacy doesn't believe that payments of the 10% ROI and the 10% referral commissions to the members are debt either.
    not debt in the true sense they are business expenses . he pays a finders fee to bring in new sales and new customers and also pays a clicking reward to his members . debt would be if he borrowed the money from a bank or financial institution and paid that money back ...
    disclaimer no statement that i make on this wonderful forum about any program or website has anything to do with its legitimacy that is something you have to investigate for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy532 View Post
    not debt in the true sense they are business expenses . he pays a finders fee to bring in new sales and new customers and also pays a clicking reward to his members . debt would be if he borrowed the money from a bank or financial institution and paid that money back ...

    Thanks for proving my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy532 View Post
    If he only shares a % of what comes in each day to pay his clickers and never varies from that number how can he ever be upside down .. Sure there is more clickers to feed than on day one but there are also many more people spending money on services.. I guess he could have hidden how much the earning cap is and not get looked at .. Thats what neobux does.. They let u buy upgrades to earn more money than a free member.. But you have no idea how long you will earn more cause your earning cap or up to amount is not openly announced.. If no one ever profited from the upgrades they would have stopped buying them 8 years ago..
    Only 3 million of income was from something other than AdPacks sales and those AdPacks are money losers from the get go. How many times must we explain that? So, what is Chucky paying the clickers with as TM is always in the red? Get a brain transplant, Stacy as you obviously need it. Maybe Chucky can have TM offer discount health insurance for the brainless investors like you as a bonus!

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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Then, entirely predictably, they started turning on each other:



    The TrafficMonsoonTeam page on Facebook
    I really wouldn't fret about that too much Adrian.
    Nobody will ever be "earning" anything with TM ever again
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    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post

    Thanks for proving my point.
    Poor stacy doesn't realize he's actually digging a bigger hole for Scoville in which to bury Scoville with every post.

    Traffic Monsoon was (is) a "closed loop" system, in other words, a ponzi scheme.

    There were no sources of income / revenue outside of the (closed) loop.
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    Trafficmonsoon.com server down? Or gone?

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    Not responding.

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    Now Jose Nunes is chowing down on his fellow ponzi pimp.



    Jose Nunes' TrafficMonsoonupdates page on Facebook

    Who was it said there is no honour among thieves ???
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    Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Poor stacy doesn't realize he's actually digging a bigger hole for Scoville in which to bury Scoville with every post.

    Traffic Monsoon was (is) a "closed loop" system, in other words, a ponzi scheme.

    There were no sources of income / revenue outside of the (closed) loop.
    Brilliant! Now that was the simplest and clearest explanation and exactly what our dearie, Stacy needs. Obviously, my good man LRM is the smart one. I guess that leaves me as the mean one!

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    Personally, I hope Charles does not cave and does a plea deal like Paul Burks did in his civil case. I want Charles to have stacy, William Bryant, Jose Nunez, Sharon James, Imy, Adrian Hibbert, Frank Calabro, Jr. and Lloyd Dotson as defense witnesses. Now I would pay to attend that trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post
    Now I would pay to attend that trial.
    Would you prefer to pay with cash or adpacks ???
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    Then, entirely predictably, they started turning on each other:



    The TrafficMonsoonTeam page on Facebook

    I would have thought that Adrian Hibbert would know how to steer clear !

    Hot off the presses, we have this new claw back litigation aimed at UK participants in the Zeek Rewards saga just filed today in the Western District of North Carolina, 3:15-cv-108. Zeek

    Named in this suit are a number of UK residents believed to be “Net Winners”:

    12. Shaun Smith is, upon information and belief, a resident of Bridgnorth, United Kingdom. Smith is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $262,900.31 under one or more usernames, including “topincometeam.”
    13. Peter William Bennett is, upon information and belief, a resident of Wokingham, United Kingdom. Bennett is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $257,573.30 under one or more usernames, including “orchard.”
    14. Mark Anthony Ferrie is, upon information and belief, a resident of Abergavenny, United Kingdom. Ferrie is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $212,072.60 under one or more usernames, including “maferrie.”

    15. Gary Bryan Morris is, upon information and belief, a resident of Abergavenny, United Kingdom. Morris is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $342,405.01 under one or more usernames, including “everychance.”
    16. Kalpesh Patel is, upon information and belief, a resident of Newham, London, United Kingdom. Patel is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $140,842.47 under one or more usernames, including “international.”
    17. Parvis Parvizi is, upon information and belief, a resident of Macclesfield, United Kingdom. Parvizi is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $90,518.83 under one or more usernames, including “globalpartners.”
    18. Cathal Lambe is, upon information and belief, a resident of Omagh, United Kingdom. Lambe is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $90,311.21 under one or more usernames, including “luckoftheirish.”
    19. Adrian John Hibbert is, upon information and belief, a resident of Sully, United Kingdom. Hibbert is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $82,103.51 under one or more usernames, including “ade.”
    20. John Noakes is, upon information and belief, a resident of Croydon, London, United Kingdon. Noakes is a former ZeekRewards “affiliate” and was a “net winner” of $59,850.62 under one or more usernames, including “syfgroup.”
    Zeek Rewards: Receiver Files Suit Against UK “Net Winners” | ASDUpdates.com

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    Sometimes, it is beneficial to pause and reflect on past events with fresh eyes:

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    It appears Charlie Scoville hasn't read or understood the court order and doesn't realize he no longer has any say in matters.



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    I imagine this might fall slightly further now?



    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    @Jack

    Do you think you could post this in so many words on Facebook. It refers to the point I made earlier.

    If people are defending the TM business model i.e. not an investment, then they are relinquishing their rights to collect money. They paid for a service and got it. They are essentially giving Charles the right to keep all their money. Do they even realize this?

    I think they might change their tune if they can comprehend this. It would be interesting to see how they respond. Probably "Charles would never do that to us" crap by the deluded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stacy532 View Post
    If he only shares a % of what comes in each day to pay his clickers and never varies from that number how can he ever be upside down ..
    This was answered Bisquik.

    http://www.realscam.com/f8/traffic-m...tml#post104400

    http://www.realscam.com/f8/traffic-m...tml#post104336
    http://www.realscam.com/f8/traffic-m...tml#post103744

    Even using your delusional scenario where you believe it OK for Scoville to flat out lie about how much money people were earning he is RED from the get go.

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy532 View Post
    Sure there is more clickers to feed than on day one but there are also many more people spending money on services..
    People like you?

    Quote Originally Posted by stacy532 View Post
    my account for instance 717 total adpacks have expired 95 pending and 22 active . im not actually out of pocket even on the second round of buying packs from payza in January.
    What service other than an investment or gambling allows you to have more money after you purchase it?


    Quote Originally Posted by stacy532 View Post
    Its a great perfectly natural thing to have happen ..
    Among Ponzi Lemmings it certainly is...

    Scovilles Lemmings.jpg

    You should see if Scoville needs you to swing by the dry cleaner so he can have a crisp suit for his court appearance.
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    So, Stacy, how much money you made on this one ?

    Without numbers on the screen, just ins and outs, and ref commisions ?

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