Thread: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville

More inane witterings from Charles....

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Like the question from Jon Walsh though!

Originally Posted by laidback

So if your boss comes along and says the server is down or your money is stuck in the payment processor, or he was hacked, or, or, or, are you going to continue to work for him without pay for 90 days, or 180 days or whatever? And yet you'll buy all that nonsense from someone on the net that you've likely never met...fascinating!

Ive had problems like that our payroll was delayed 3 weeks due to weather so i made damn sure i no longer get a check and now its direct deposit. Any money not coming from charles has always been due to payment processors and now the sec .

The 5$ everyone is so worried about has not been earned yet and is not promised .. My offline job might pay me 58k this year if sales support it .. Does my job have the money to pay me that now . ?maybe ? Does not matter cause im not owed more than what i actually earn . and i have not earned all 58k yet ..im paid only as i earn it .. Folks at the monsoon are paid as they surf .. Kinda similar ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

The 5$ everyone is so worried about has not been earned yet and is not promised .. My offline job might pay me 58k this year if sales support it .. Does my job have the money to pay me that now . ?maybe ? Does not matter cause im not owed more than what i actually earn . and i have not earned all 58k yet ..im paid only as i earn it .. Folks at the monsoon are paid as they surf .. Kinda similar ..

But Stacey, where does the $5 come from?

In the Bakery model, the money to pay your salary comes from the PROFIT that the Bakery makes in its operation to sell wares to customers.

In the TM model, Charles told the SEC only 0.4% of sales was other than ad-packs, so there is NO PROFIT to pay anything. Rather a big difference. TOTALLY FLAWED MODEL.
And you admitted this in our debate last year... your whole argument back then was that TM was not a Ponzi.

Now that Charles has made it clear in his evidence that TM is a Ponzi, you've changed your argument to "It's ok to be Ponzi". Hahahaha.

My offline job might pay me 58k this year if sales support it .. Does my job have the money to pay me that now . ?maybe ? Does not matter cause im not owed more than what i actually earn . and i have not earned all 58k yet ..im paid only as i earn it .. Folks at the monsoon are paid as they surf .. Kinda similar ..

so you paid someone around $50,000 so you can collect $58,000?
that's the ONLY way any of your ridiculous story would equal the monsoon scam dumbass.

Interesting isn't it how Sunil, Sharon, Shirley, Charles, stacy, William, Darren, and the other major pimps of TM constantly profess TM is not a Ponzi, but totally ignore and won't talk about how Charles only delivered 1/10 of the great, fantastic, incredible advertising the members paid for.

Oh no! Remember Sunil's mega video, the one that went on for 3 or 4 hours? The one that was going to be sent to the SEC?

Apparently it has a part 2 (not released yet)!

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Good grief. What more can he say????

EDIT: Well, actually, he can say this:-

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This actually makes me feel quite sad. Because I just know it's not going to work out well for Janet.

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Amongst all the idiots and ponzi pimps, there are people who have been well and truly deceived.

Originally Posted by Della Cate

This actually makes me feel quite sad. Because I just know it's not going to work out well for Janet.

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Amongst all the idiots and ponzi pimps, there are people who have been well and truly deceived.

....and then there's Gerald Robert Ballantyne, the single most persistent traveller down the road that is NOT the path of least resistance when it comes to being royally mugged off by one Ponzi biz op after another after another.

Every time I see any kind of screen cap with that guy in it, a sliver of a part of me hopes that maybe, just MAYBE he might actually realise what a gigantic fool of intergalactic proportions he's been for all of these years, pumping every last penny into these scams (and I should know, I was personally in at least 3 of the main ones that he was a member of as well) and will one day come to the realization that a few of us ex-lemmings like myself did - "Oh ****. I cannot believe it's taken me this long to realize how ALL of these damn biz ops and MLM money traps are just outright, irrefutably obvious SCAMS".

Maybe one day, eh G?

Gerald Ballantyne

Originally Posted by Whip

so you paid someone around $50,000 so you can collect $58,000?
that's the ONLY way any of your ridiculous story would equal the monsoon scam dumbass.

Yes unfortunately ive probably paid the banks and bill collectors 51,000. So yes i do feel that is rediculous to do so.. The difference at my job is they sell only bread they dont sell everything . i wish i could spend all 51k with them but we all need other things beside bread.. At the monsoon i found it to be the only place i was getting results buying traffic so it became my go to place .. If he chooses to pay me to surf ads in exchange for me buying his services i never seen an issue with it..

Originally Posted by stacy532

At first I was looking at the monsoon the same way you guys did and I was thinking to myself I sure hope that he sells enough services to pay the extra money that are owed on the ad packs or it might be a Ponzi

He didn't and it is. But by all means keep fetching your mop, maybe Shirley will send you a tin of cookies.

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Originally Posted by stacy532

The difference at my job is they sell only bread they dont sell everything .

At your job do employees strut around calling themselves Yeast CEOs or Dough Entrepreneurs? Does your job have more employees than customers as was the case with Monsoon?

Originally Posted by stacy532

he is never going to be dumb enough to pay out more per day than what he takes in

Would you finally like to explain how Monsoon got to 15,000,000 ad packs and shared $600M with only $207M in revenue, or should we wait for your undumb friend to splain it?

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Originally Posted by stephenjgray

But Stacey, where does the $5 come from?

In the Bakery model, the money to pay your salary comes from the PROFIT that the Bakery makes in its operation to sell wares to customers.

In the TM model, Charles told the SEC only 0.4% of sales was other than ad-packs, so there is NO PROFIT to pay anything. Rather a big difference. TOTALLY FLAWED MODEL.
And you admitted this in our debate last year... your whole argument back then was that TM was not a Ponzi.

Now that Charles has made it clear in his evidence that TM is a Ponzi, you've changed your argument to "It's ok to be Ponzi". Hahahaha.

The 5 bucks is simply a wage paid for clicking ads .. It did come from a mix of adpacks and all other services.. At first I was looking at the monsoon the same way you guys did and I was thinking to myself I sure hope that he sells enough services to pay the extra money that are owed on the ad packs or it might be a Ponzi but I was looking at it through the same sunglasses you guys wear it makes no difference which service he sells or the most of once he sells something and you receive the service that money is lost to you completely 100% gone if you want to earn any money at the monsoon you have to earn it back by clicking ads he is never going to be dumb enough to pay out more per day than what he takes in as long as you do that you always have a profit margin you're looking at it as 50 and 55 . when in reality its 50 in and it pays expenses and if other people buy services then yes u can earn money each day clicking ads in the exchange .. That extra 5 bux is a limit placed on the earning not a promise of ..

Originally Posted by stacy532

The 5 bucks is simply a wage paid for clicking ads .. It did come from a mix of adpacks and all other services.. At first I was looking at the monsoon the same way you guys did and I was thinking to myself I sure hope that he sells enough services to pay the extra money that are owed on the ad packs or it might be a Ponzi but I was looking at it through the same sunglasses you guys wear it makes no difference which service he sells or the most of once he sells something and you receive the service that money is lost to you completely 100% gone if you want to earn any money at the monsoon you have to earn it back by clicking ads he is never going to be dumb enough to pay out more per day than what he takes in as long as you do that you always have a profit margin you're looking at it as 50 and 55 . when in reality its 50 in and it pays expenses and if other people buy services then yes u can earn money each day clicking ads in the exchange .. That extra 5 bux is a limit placed on the earning not a promise of ..

Even by Stacy standards.....this is beyond stupid.
This rustic has had a full day of embarassing himself on RS.
Funny is a sad way.

Originally Posted by stacy532

The 5 bucks is simply a wage paid for clicking ads .. It did come from a mix of adpacks and all other services.. At first I was looking at the monsoon the same way you guys did and I was thinking to myself I sure hope that he sells enough services to pay the extra money that are owed on the ad packs or it might be a Ponzi but I was looking at it through the same sunglasses you guys wear it makes no difference which service he sells or the most of once he sells something and you receive the service that money is lost to you completely 100% gone if you want to earn any money at the monsoon you have to earn it back by clicking ads he is never going to be dumb enough to pay out more per day than what he takes in as long as you do that you always have a profit margin you're looking at it as 50 and 55 . when in reality its 50 in and it pays expenses and if other people buy services then yes u can earn money each day clicking ads in the exchange .. That extra 5 bux is a limit placed on the earning not a promise of ..

Ah so you think that clicking on 10 ads a day somehow earns large amounts of money for TM (even though nearly all of the ads clicked on are a) rubbish ads for other scams and b) they have no interest in them anyway as they are just doing their mandated clicks).

More to the point, we know that if there is anything earned for TM from ad clicks, then amount of money earned for TM is proportional to the number of clicks, but - correct me if I'm wrong - the number of clicks each affiliate makes is FIXED and NOT PROPORTIONAL to the number of ad-packs he holds. Hence somebody with 1000 ad packs needs to "earn" $10 x 1000 for TM in each approx. two month period, whereas somebody with 1 ad-pack needs to earn $10 x 1 in the same period. Makes no sense at all does it... especially when the average number of ad-packs each affiliate holds is quite high. This I guess is why Charles belatedly increased the number of clicks per day from 10 to 50... too little too late to try to deliver the number of clicks that the T&C actually said. Not that even that would actually deliver much money to TM.

Really you can't reinvent economics and solve world poverty by having tens of thousands of people clicking on ads for online scams and pyramid schemes.
(anyone in online advertising will tell you that the numbers don't stack up even if they were actually clicking on genuine ads for genuine stuff !)
If you think that TM made its $600,000,000 ad pack liability by people clicking their 10 ads a day then it's back to the original question: "Who ties your shoes in the morning?"

Originally Posted by stacy532

The 5 bucks is simply a wage paid for clicking ads .. It did come from a mix of adpacks and all other services.. At first I was looking at the monsoon the same way you guys did and I was thinking to myself I sure hope that he sells enough services to pay the extra money that are owed on the ad packs or it might be a Ponzi but I was looking at it through the same sunglasses you guys wear it makes no difference which service he sells or the most of once he sells something and you receive the service that money is lost to you completely 100% gone if you want to earn any money at the monsoon you have to earn it back by clicking ads he is never going to be dumb enough to pay out more per day than what he takes in as long as you do that you always have a profit margin you're looking at it as 50 and 55 . when in reality its 50 in and it pays expenses and if other people buy services then yes u can earn money each day clicking ads in the exchange .. That extra 5 bux is a limit placed on the earning not a promise of ..

And also Stacy - where in the figures Charles gave the SEC does it document all this money that the clicks are earning ????

The only figure he gave them for any money coming into TM was the $ 3 million odd that makes up the 0.4%

He obviously forgot to tell them about the $ HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS that the closed loop ad-clicking was generating.

Originally Posted by stephenjgray

Ah so you think that clicking on 10 ads a day somehow earns large amounts of money for TM (even though nearly all of the ads clicked on are a) rubbish ads for other scams and b) they have no interest in them anyway as they are just doing their mandated clicks).

Not forgetting Charlies' very public announcement that if members had no business of their own to advertise, they could download and use Traffic Monsoon banners.

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Traffic Monsoon injunction hearing delayed, Scoville changes lawyers

Originally Posted by Bestbud

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Traffic Monsoon injunction hearing delayed, Scoville changes lawyers

How can he afford these lawyers if he is indeed penniless? I'm pretty sure they don't take clients on "spec", and probably bill out at about $500 an hour.

A good post.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Traf...%3A%22R2%22%7D

Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

A good post.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Traf...%3A%22R2%22%7D

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Originally Posted by Fat City, LA

A good post.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/Traf...%3A%22R2%22%7D

Yes, excellent post. I've just pasted it into the TM Refund Support Group forum. (Charles is still going there pretending to be Shirley...)

Well said Mohammad.

Nunes is spinning his wheels...

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Originally Posted by bestbud

nunes is spinning his wheels...

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oooooohhhhhhhhh!!!

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Originally Posted by JackTolerance

oooooohhhhhhhhh!!!

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The SEC must be quaking in its boots that Jose Numbnuts is filing a suit...NOT!

Originally Posted by laidback

The SEC must be quaking in its boots that Jose Numbnuts is filing a suit...NOT!

Collectively bricking their pantaloons, I 'spect