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    Re: The Achieve Community - huge ponzi scam

    If this is true and it's the level of information Achieve members are being required to supply this unknown payment processor to save their accounts AND they are supplying it to goodness-knows-who, then those members are beyond any sort of help or sympathy



    Troy Barnes' troybarnes49 page on Facebook

    Identity thieves and bank account strippers will be on their knees giving thanks after they read stuff like that
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    clearly they haven't watched the video enough. do they think troy made it for his health? lazy slackers. just think how hard this would have been if it was a legitimate business using direct deposit.

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    Mate, that isn't "red tape"

    That is pure, unadulterated, undisguised identity theft.

    DON'T DO IT
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    did you read some of the comments under the update post? Talk about people giving away the ranch........
    these people are so screwed.

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    If sending off enough details so you become the perfect victim for identity theft is on your bucket list, now you know how, courtesy of Troy Barnes and his Achieve Community:

    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    Re: The Achieve Community - huge ponzi scam

    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Any attempt to CHARGEBACK is considered as Fraud, and is subject to legal criminal action.
    That is a lie, filing a chargeback when you did not get what you paid for is a legitimate way to dispute the transaction, if they don't agree they could, gasp, fight your attempt

    Please note that credit card fraud is a very serious crime.
    Yeppers, is sure is. Trying to scare people out of filing legitimate chargebacks could be considered credit card fraud


    Your IP address as well as other information about you is collected on this website using technology to
    track your physical address and other pertinent information to safe guard against fraud.
    They can identify your general area, the precision they need to try to hurt you they'd need to get the police involved. ANyone here think they're goona be the ones to call the police?



    In the event of fraud this information will be used to contact law enforcement authorities in your country,
    state and city to prosecute at the fullest extent allowed by law
    Again, like I and others have said, that's kind of like bank robbers calling the police on the guy who double parked their getaway car
    I showed an FTC attorney a bizop scam with a terms and conditions that had the old "Any attempt to CHARGEBACK is considered as Fraud, and is subject to legal criminal action." Her reaction? She laughed out loud.

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    It could be worse, the payment processor could require that you send a book of pre-signed, blank checks, along with a notarized statement with the current balance.

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    Oh, and your car title...not a copy, the actual title certificate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gregg View Post
    Oh, and your car title...not a copy, the actual title certificate.
    Goodness knows how much Achieve members must be owed for Johnson and Barnes to be able to get away with this crap.

    Members might as well give up the title to their cars.

    By the time the scammers have finished plundering their accounts, there won't be enough left for petrol, anyway.
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    Re: The Achieve Community - huge ponzi scam

    Of course the remaining Achieve members don't yet realize it, but Troy has just given himself another two weeks grace.

    He says the members will start to receive their cards in two weeks.

    Two weeks to receive an UNCHARGED debit card.

    That's all it is, a piece of plastic with no money in the account.

    Who is going to jump in and start a list of the excuses Troy is going to give in two weeks time as to why Achieve can't transfer earnings into members' newly arrived debit card (if the cards ever arrive, that is)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustTooMuchTime View Post
    I showed an FTC attorney a bizop scam with a terms and conditions that had the old "Any attempt to CHARGEBACK is considered as Fraud, and is subject to legal criminal action." Her reaction? She laughed out loud.
    Actually, there's a very good reason HYIPs are continually trying to intimidate members into not going down the chargeback route.



    HYIP ponzis simply cannot afford to have transactions reversed, especially since a successful chargeback request also incurs a penalty for the offending merchant and an excessive amount of successful chargebacks will result in automatic closure of the offending merchant account
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    Re: The Achieve Community - huge ponzi scam

    Interestingly, both Kristi Johnsons' Facebook accounts have disappeared.

    Pure speculation, of course, but does her Twitter account perhaps give a clue as to her whereabouts or intentions:




    Kristi Johnson @kjinvest on Twitter
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    Re: The Achieve Community - huge ponzi scam

    WOW !!

    What a difference four hours can make in HYIP ponzi land:


    Now you see her, now you don't



    Kristi Johnson @kjinvest on Twitter
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    Quote Originally Posted by littleroundman View Post
    WOW !!

    What a difference four hours can make in HYIP ponzi land:


    Now you see her, now you don't



    Kristi Johnson @kjinvest on Twitter
    Looks like the scamming crook may be making her getaway!

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    Tonight’s update from Troy Barnes:-

    “Hi Everybody

    Well it looks like the rumors are true. Kristi has fled from USA….. God knows where she went…. ?

    Before she left She had been talking to the Attorney general in Colorado for many weeks.

    My last conversations with her were all good They were dropping all charges of fraud and of Achieve being a scam.

    This is what SHE told me!!!

    Kristi has deserted us all !!!

    It would seem that she has now pointed everything at me!!!

    I was doing every -thing I could do, to make us safe and be here for the long term and we were doing great.

    Now because of Kristi deserting all of us I am facing criminal charges and our Achieve assets have been frozen.

    I don’t know what the plan is yet. One way or another I will get your money returned to you, somehow.

    I am now facing jail because a few people hated our community and I have let Kristi have way too much control of our finances.

    I am sure I will have to be leave Facebook for a while. I have a lot to do to prepare for court and try to take care of ALL of the members. That is ALL I HAVE ever wanted to do !

    How one woman can destroy so many lives is beyond me. I have no money for an attorney so I have to do my best to protect you all on my own.

    It’s a very sad day for me the worst day of my life ! So sorry I had the wrong partner.

    Troy”

    So it seems that the crook Barnes is blaming his crooked partner Johnson for everything. lol

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    Don't all innocent people flee the country after talking to the Attorney General of their state? But how can this be? Troy and Kristi were fawning all over each other with platitudes about the other, and you mean she lied? Seriously? I am shocked I tell you, shocked! at this turn of events.

    Shame on all you "haters" of Achieve for bringing it down. Don't you people want to help the little guy get ahead and realize his/her dreams? You are nothing more than dream stealers, and you should all feel ashamed of yourselves.

    Poor Troy, penniless and facing criminal charges and can't afford an attorney. Don't worry Troy, the state will provide you one free of charge. Problem solved. But not to worry, since Achieve was totally legal (I know because you and your trusted partner Kristi) told everyone it was. So a slam dunk of defending yourself. Show them Kristi's magnificent algorithm that made all this possible and case dismissed, not guilty. Piece of cake.

    Troy's lament brings a tear to your eye doesn't it. Yeah, me neither.
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    Just had notice that the Community facebook page went from closed to secret. The posts were literally every few seconds from people shocked that they'd lost there money. I posted a Chargeback notice and had two messages back from two affiliates instantly asking for help. Then I posted a link and BOOM - I'm banned. So the admin, I'm guessing, are paid up members of the 'Ban and block' scam brigade.
    If anybody wants some help getting there money back, please check out this link:

    TARA TALKS: Get Your Money Back - CHARGEBACK Information

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    Time to get serious about Troy's announcement. There are a lot of people who are devastated with this news. They truly believed all their lies about how legal Achieve was and the algorithm worked causing them to put far more money in this than they could afford to do. Since Troy said the Achieve accounts were frozen, now all the members can do is wait for the state to set up a refund process for the victims. While you can try to get a charge-back, don't count on it happening.

    For those of you who are members of Achieve reading this, here's what you need to know:

    If and when refunds will be made to the victims of Achieve, you will not be getting back what you put in, even if you just put it in the last time you could put money into Achieve. Your return will be a percentage of what you put into Achieve. The reason is everyone will be treated equally. Since there are people who had not been paid anything, some who had been paid a little, and others who were paid a lot, they have to average out what each person paid into Achieve versus what they received back. No-one knows what that percentage will be at this time. It could take months, or even a year or more before you see any of your money back. If you got back more than you put in, you will not be getting any money back no matter when you put your last money into Achieve. Only those who lost money will receive any refund. They will deduct from the amount you paid into Achieve the amount of money you were paid to determine your loss.

    While I know Achieve wasn't even close to as much money put into it as ASD Cash Generator, and certainly not Zeek Rewards, still both of those cases took two years before refund payments were started being paid back to their victims. My point is that this is not going to happen overnight. This was not a real business with real books and real accounting contrary to what Troy and Kristi were claiming.

    From the sound of things, many of you did do charge-backs and you should be thankful you did, or you would be waiting with everyone else who didn't to get your percentage of your money back. REMEMBER: No-One will get 100% of their money back.

    Here's what you need to do now: Get copies of all your transactions of money wired/sent to your payment processor(s), and all payments made to you from your payment processor(s)/bank. You will need this information when they start the claims process. You want to make sure that you can account for all the money you sent to Achieve and how much money you were paid from Achieve. This means for every account you had. You will need to identify all your accounts you had with Achieve no matter whose names they were in as long as you were the one paying Achieve.

    One more word of advice that will fall on deaf ears to many of you, but you still need to hear it. The next time you are in a program and all of us "naysayers," "negative people," " haters," "jealous," "dream stealers," or any other name we are called are warning you about the program being a Ponzi or illegal pyramid scheme, you should listen to us as we do know what we are talking about, and our track record proves it.
    EagleOne
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    Posted by somebody called Kelly Thomson (Admin) on the "Official" Achieve Community Facebook Page

    Kelly Thomson


    I am going to address the update here and then all ridiculous and threatening comments and spam will be deleted.
    We are all well aware of those sites who have lied and twisted everything to do with Achieve and encouraged as many as they could to report to the authorities.
    Enough reports and the authorities must investigate, whether they are true or not. The people encouraging others, knew this. It was their plan.
    Kristi has not fled the country. It is she who has always truly cared about the people in this community. You all have seen that.
    Her dream, her goal, her intent was always to protect people from scammers. To help people so that they could go forward and help others.
    Nothing in the recent update is true. Kristi is working things out in Colorado, or was trying to. The money is all safe unless someone else is running with it.
    With that, I will leave you to determine why Troy is lying so blatantly and viciously in this update.

    If Simon Stepsys or Mark Ghobril are involved it's 100% a SCAM!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barnes the scammer
    Well it looks like the rumors are true. Kristi has fled from USA….. God knows where she went…. ?
    all you had to do was look at her twitter before she took it down but you already knew because:

    Quote Originally Posted by barnes the scammer
    My last conversations with her were all good They were dropping all charges of fraud and of Achieve being a scam.
    but then you say:

    Quote Originally Posted by barnes the scammer
    ......................I am facing criminal charges and our Achieve assets have been frozen.
    why would this be if what you previously said was true? Wouldn't you yourself at least ask them about it? But, we know you really didn't have to.

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    Hmm, I guess this means that Troy and Kristi are no longer bosom buddies. Don't you just love it when partners turn on each other in a Ponzi trying to keep their sorry arse out of jail blaming the other one. Hopefully the SEC will act and they both can be on trial together and tell their story in the same courtroom. Then all the jury has to decide is which one is the better liar.

    Oh by the way, all of you who were big winners in Achieve, get ready to pay it back.

    Uh Kelly, even if 200 people complained to the authorities, if their complaints were unfounded, there would not have been this action being taken. But then that doesn't fit the narrative of your continued lies to the Achieve Community as to what happened and why.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleOne View Post

    Uh Kelly, even if 200 people complained to the authorities, if their complaints were unfounded, there would not have been this action being taken. But then that doesn't fit the narrative of your continued lies to the Achieve Community as to what happened and why.
    it is hilarious how they try and blame nobodys for their scam being investigated. Like the nobodys have the ultimate power of say and no investigation would be necessary. losers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe_Shmoe View Post
    Posted by somebody called Kelly Thomson (Admin) on the "Official" Achieve Community Facebook Page
    Her name is among the members profiled back near the beginning, all those facebook "panel shots". Next to last, right next to Kristi's.
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    And another DELUSIONAL person,

    Francine Bohannon.....How do you keep a business going when from every corner people are cutting you down? No sooner did we get our newest processor, people posted all of our information on FB for all to see even after Troy and Kristi said to keep it private, and even after we had sat for 3-4 months! It was only a matter of time before letters accusing Kristi and Troy of scamming people, investigations being conducted etcetera hit them. What processor wants to deal with a company like that? It happened with Global then our newest processor. She was out of options as people patience was already wearing thin.
    24 mins Like 1



    It wasn't ever a business. All of you participated in an illegal PONZI scheme. And even more delusional would be for anyone to think that any leader or admin didn't know it.

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