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    Bill Marler

    Looks like Norah Marler's black sheep of a brother is back at his old tricks again. If the mods permit, I'll re-post the evidence against him that I used to have up at scam.com before George deleted it.

    But for the moment, I'll say that the infamous Bill Marler a.k.a. Bill Maverick a.k.a. Bill Moran and any number of other alias, is once again spamming Backpage.com with advertisements for his cash gifting schemes.

    He also, according to a report I just got, is promoting a site called http://www.blackhatleads.com

    What chutzpah, openly telling the recipients of his email spam that his website is unethical in nature, right there in the name! As if his older www.cashgiftingsite.com and http://www.xtremepostcardprofits.com weren't bad enough.

    I wonder if Norah has ever heard of misprision of felony? She certainly put her foot in it the last time I was getting large numbers of reports about Bill - doing all that she could to try to defend him from investigation, it seemed.

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    And speaking of the other site, I still have two messages in mailbox there regarding Bill. One from him, and one from a mod.

    This is what Bill sent me:

    06-09-2011, 11:56 AM
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    Hi Professor
    Hi Professor Henry,

    I am writing not to try and change your mind or cause. And I hope I can privately keep my thoughts to you and I.

    I am not asking you to condone or approve of the opportunities I have joined and worked. But I will say that yes you have sites I have worked. But that just naming any theory is very hurtful. And just not right to do to others who you on a thought name. Some of your other people you have said stuff about, sometimes you're correct and other times you're not. I can see you're a smart guy and I am asking if you can cut me some slack. I am a family person, who does have a "real" career that is being affected. Most of your targets would not bother to contact you, but I am doing it because I am not this monster you think I am.

    I was in the process of trying some normal advertising business and I have been so bothered ** all this.

    So here I am asking for help from the one person who has enjoyed what you have done to me. I hope my message somehow gets through that at the end of the day, yes you do not approve of some of the opportunities I have marketed, but I don't deserve it.

    Lastly as you can see I am not trying to win you over and convince you that a program is not what you think it is as other try. I am just asking that you can let me be and I will try to learn from all this.

    If you decide to cut me a break and delete, you don't have to reply to me. Actions speak louder, and I will owe you a debt of gratitude. If you do want to speak or reply that is up to you. I am not asking you to like me, but I can tell you this, that I work harder than most and mean well. I am far from perfect and just human, which sometimes don't make all the right choices.

    Thank you,

    Bill

    And this is what Sojustask sent me (I apologize to her if she didn't want it revealed, but she hasn't said anything to me either way):

    05-24-2011, 03:34 PM
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    Didn't see any rules or violations, nor anything in your post that warrants a warning from me. Just wanted to make you aware.

    Lady Mod


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    Hi sojustask, my attorney just reviewed the post, (not to cause problem) but to take a look. He mentioned another big factor outside of the cyber bully offenses, is also posting my relatives names and referring to my kids. This guy is way out of line and it should not be tolerated. What gives anyone the right to post relatives names. He is also causing legal problems for my sister and her publishing company. This guy is a loose cannon for admin and puts forum at legal risk as well. This not the wild west.

    Thanks for your time

    Bill

    Thanks,

    Quote:
    Originally Posted ** Normalguy
    Hi sojustask, (Your Majesty)
    I hope all is well with you and you're ok. I wanted to tell you my concerns about the welfare of my family and practice.

    This thread http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=138881

    posted ** The all mighty one is very defamatory, slanderous, careless, criminal (Cy-per bully laws and others), but most of all dangerous to me, my wife, my sister and my children. And there are many untruths as well as exaggerations. He will be held accountable. I know his real name, but do I do as he does and post it, no I haven't.

    Do you know how many would like his name disclosed so they can take him to task. Even if they didn't have a case they could still tie him up in court which is costly to defend against 100s of people he has harassed.

    Now I know you are a wonderful lady, but I hope because of who he is here that he doesn't gets a pass.

    He is dangerous to my family. Every time he is permitted to post personal private info of anyone he brings risk to everyone including the forum.

    I am so upset. Who gives him the right to hurt my career. I am well respected in my community. I am personal friends with many law enforcement as well as the County DA.

    I ask that you delete that dangerous post in so many ways.

    I know you're smart and their are too many reasons why it is wrong in every way which will cause consequences.

    I don't want to go legal. You have been the mind of reason here. I never post here. I am a caring father and husband. I have friends texting me about it and its putting my career and the safety of my family at risk.

    I am nothing like he describes.


    Thanks for your time,

    Bill




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    Re: Bill Marler

    Scam owner George Dranichak will cave to any lawyer letter (even obviously fake ones) and happily takes incentives to remove posts. I worked for that clown for free and he claims he archives nothing and keeps no paper work. So, he has no way to recover data and cannot tell litigants or authorities who requested info be removed. He and Stephanie are both dishonest. So, one will never get a straight answer to anything.

    Please do post your information here. Bill certainly won't get his way with me. We don't cater to scammers here.

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    The post that set the ball rolling before.

    William Marler, brother of dating author Norah Marler, has a long history of running and promoting cash gifting schemes. Norah helps to protect her brother when a scambuster gets close enough to find out his real identity, as when "Complains of Names" caught her in a direct lie that confirmed that Bill Marler and Bill Moran were one and the same - Norah complained to him about an email address that Complains had only used to communicate with the Moran identity, which she shouldn't have known about it if her prior claims of her brother's non-gifting ways had been in fact true.

    You may also be familiar with him under the alias Bill Maverick. Lately, he's been calling himself Bill Patrick (and switched his tell-tale Twitter accounts to other false names, such as "Mike" to try to hide his trail).

    His actual business address (not home address) is revealed in this classified ad he posted a while back.

    Bill Maverick | 31 Main St. Suite 3 | Toms River | NJ | 08753 | United States | 864-5481 | Cash Gifting Done Right|Cash gifting done Right with TOCS The Overnight Cash System. OvernightCashSystem.com Cash gifting at it's Best. Only Cash Gifting with automated cash gifts for all members. Only cash gifting that doesn't require marketing. Call 347-709-8430 . Get Plugg| tmgsuccess@yopmail.com | http://www.overnightcashsystem.com | 6638484 | 1308454520
    which matches this ad from MyTomsRiver.com

    The Marler Group For All Your Insurance Needs
    31 Main St. Suite 3
    Toms River , NJ 08753
    732-286-3267
    Email: admin@TheMarlerGroup.com
    Website: http://www,TheMarlerGroup.com
    However, his phone numbers change frequently as one gets busted by an anti-spammer after another.

    Some of the other sites that Bill and Danielle (wife? daughter? another sister?) run or have run in the past as The Marler Group LLC include:
    http://www.mytomsriver.com (the only legitimate one?)
    http://Www.BigSixFigureLifestyle.com
    http://www.LiveBossFreeToday.com

    You can also find him hawking Essante Power Pops (weight loss through sucking sugar?) via massive spam campaigns on Backpage.com, with ridiculously named sites (I raised both eyebrows at "irslogo.info") being linked to containing the sign-up links for his MLM affiliation.

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    Scam.com member Berserker then asked me this:

    Is this the same Bill Marler that frequents MLM.com? I recall him being with ACN at some point, and still might be.
    To which I answered,

    Yes. Same Bill Marler.

    His affiliate names at ACN were, if I'm remembering right, servicewealth, billmarler, and anycredit, during 2008-2009. He was also in Fresh Start Forex in early 2008 and late 2007.

    Here's one of his ACN pages he shared with Danielle. Note the email address.
    http://web.archive.org/web/200903310...illmarler.net/

    I see that he went by (goes by?) MrBillandMrsDanielle on MLM.com, and "fnaprime" on some insurance sites. Much nicer than his more recent names such as "Magnetic Cashteam.com" like his spam on Backpage has been shouting of late.

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    Something else I found a bit later on regarding Bill... his list of names on eBay at http://contact.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI...irtual_network

    The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
    User ID Effective Date End Date
    mobile_virtual_network Apr-19-06 Present
    mr-bill-team Mar-07-06 Apr-19-06
    no_credit_check_zone Dec-28-05 Mar-07-06
    nocreditcheckworld Nov-22-05 Dec-28-05
    member6454321 Oct-23-05 Nov-22-05
    *www.ishopscout.com* Sep-24-05 Oct-23-05
    fnaprime Jun-28-01 Sep-24-05

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    And another post recovered from scam.com:

    Well, now this is an interesting one. Not a current, Scott Miller-following student, no, but an early member of TPP who ties the scheme into some of Rob Abrams gifting schemes... and a certain insurance office in Toms River, New Jersey that is looking like it may be nothing but a front for online crime.

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    Take a good look at Eric's address. It's the same as William Marler aka Bill Maverick aka Bill Moran.

    Eric's websites include:
    http://privaterevenuesystem.com
    http://mycashrevolution.com
    http://www.cashgiftingrevolution.com
    http://www.overnightcashexplosion.co...sp?refsite=t-8
    https://profiles.google.com/TheCashG...ftingPro/about
    http://www.magneticcashgifting.net/m...ck.asp?d=14978
    http://mysite.thepeoplesprogram.com/...k.php?d=165589

    Registrant Info: (FAST-14708185)
    Eric B
    801 Cherry Street
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107
    United States
    Phone: +1.7329174779
    Fax..:
    Email: eric@cashgiftingrevolution.com
    Last modified: 2011-01-29 00:49:48 GMT
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    Eric B
    801 Cherry Street
    Philadelphia, Pennsylvania 19107
    United States
    Phone: +1.7329174779
    Fax..:
    Email: eric@cashgiftingrevolution.com
    Last modified: 2011-01-29 00:49:48 GMT
    Technical Info: (FAST-12785295)
    Hostmonster.com
    Hostmonster Inc
    1958 South 950 East
    Provo, Utah 84606
    United States
    Phone: +1.8014948462
    Fax..: +1.8017651992
    Email: support@hostmonster.com
    Last modified: 2011-01-08 18:40:15 GMT
    Status: Active
    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM
    NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM
    Registrant Info: (FAST-15085327)
    Eric Beckel
    1075 Easton Ave
    Somerset, New Jersey 08873
    United States
    Phone: +1.7329259312
    Fax..:
    Email: merudh@gmail.com
    Last modified: 2011-01-23 02:54:46 GMT
    Administrative Info: (FAST-15085327)
    Eric Beckel
    1075 Easton Ave
    Somerset, New Jersey 08873
    United States
    Phone: +1.7329259312
    Fax..:
    Email: merudh@gmail.com
    Last modified: 2011-01-23 02:54:46 GMT
    Technical Info: (FAST-12785295)
    Hostmonster.com
    Hostmonster Inc
    1958 South 950 East
    Provo, Utah 84606
    United States
    Phone: +1.8014948462
    Fax..: +1.8017651992
    Email: support@hostmonster.com
    Last modified: 2011-01-08 18:40:15 GMT
    Status: Locked
    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS1.HOSTMONSTER.COM
    NS2.HOSTMONSTER.COM
    Hmm. Doesn't look like the same person... wait. Merudh? As in, 2008's cash gifting mindguard, Merudh Patel aka Merudh Maverick?
    Merudh Patel of www.cashgiftingtrainingcenter.com ?
    http://www.prlog.org/10140101-mycash...h-gifting.html matches one of Eric's websites and phone numbers to Merudh in 2008.
    And the site http://www.merudh.com, which shares an IP number with cashgiftingtrainingcenter.com, mycashrevolution.com, and findcashgifting.com, has this WHOIS data:

    Registrant Info: (FAST-12893817)

    Merudh Patel
    135 Woodcliff Blvd
    Morganville, New Jersey 07751
    United States
    Phone: +1.6099039823
    Fax..:
    Email: merudh@gmail.com
    Last modified: 2007-11-16 21:38:38 GMT

    Administrative Info: (FAST-12893817)

    Merudh Patel
    135 Woodcliff Blvd
    Morganville, New Jersey 07751
    United States
    Phone: +1.6099039823
    Fax..:
    Email: merudh@gmail.com
    Eric's sites also use the phone number 267-573-9862, which, when researched, brings up another of William Marler's online identities: Kenin Cook, whose claimed address of 31 Main Street Bevereley Hills, CA 91210 happens to match Bill Maverick's old "postal address" exactly - save that Bill's claimed that the same street address was in Glendale.
    31 Main St.
    Glendale, CA 91210
    310-409-8106
    is how it was listed on MerchantCircle in 2009.

    Following the "privaterevenuesystem" site around, I come to http://thecashsecrets.net/videoserie...=thedollarbill and the phone number 206-426-1725
    On the way to it, however, I passed through this website:
    Registrant:
    Kevin Cook tmgsuccess@gmail.com
    44 Washinton St
    Toms River, New Jersey 08753
    United States

    Domain Name: THECASHSECRET.NET
    Created on: 31-Mar-11
    Expires on: 31-Mar-12
    Last Updated on: 31-Mar-11

    Administrative Contact:
    Cook, Kevin tmgsuccess@gmail.com
    44 Washinton St
    Toms River, New Jersey 08753
    United States
    (732) 608-4067 Fax --

    Technical Contact:
    Cook, Kevin
    44 Washinton St
    Toms River, New Jersey 08753
    United States
    (732) 608-4067 Fax --

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS69.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    NS70.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Now, Marler has a Twitter account called tmgsuccess. And the email address tmgsuccess@gmail.com appears in the DNS records of the sites http://www.bigpostcardwealth.com and http://www.bigsixfigurelifestyles.com .
    Go compare those two with my prior report at http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=138881 regarding the Marler Group.

    Now, while BigPostcardWealth currently has this as their "owner" on the front page,
    Marlon Sanders - (732)-305-0079
    Proud Member,
    The Fast-100 Xtreme Postcard Profits System Program
    going back a few months or a year will show something significant above Marlon's name that isn't there now. Bill Maverick's name.
    And guess what you find in his order form http://bigmoneyinmail.com/getpdf.php?username=wmb2003

    Enclosed is my $100.00 License Fee
    Make cash, check or money order payable to
    your SPONSOR listed below. Please allow 10 days
    for personal checks to clear. Return form with
    payment to:
    Marlon Sanders
    31 Main St. Suite 3
    Toms River, NJ 08753
    http://www.BigMoneyInPostcards.com
    It's the insurance office again. William Marler's insurance office.
    Interestingly, the Twitter account for wmb2003 is a Bill Brennan... also in Toms River, NJ. He runs http://www.comicscans.net and http://www.a-zcomics.com/ Hopefully just a coincidence, but with this investigation I'm leery. Marler uses more fake names than a Lad from Lagos, it seems.

    Going back to "privaterevenuesystem" again, I checked a few weeks in the past. Loo and behold, it pointed to something very different than the TCS cash secret program. It pointed to http://www.cashgiftingsite.com , which was Bill Moran's primary gifting site.

    $842,000 in 2010!
    ALL CASH IN MY POCKET!
    But 2011 will be better!

    And members of my team will have a great year, too!
    I have the power to help you succeed!

    Join me, Bill Moran, the most respected and supportive mentor in home business!

    Almost 10 years experience with this great concept, more than 20 years working full time online!
    More than $1,000,000 CASH to my door overall!

    Here are just some of the benefits of joining me:

    1. Personal mentoring. All help personally from me. I have been doing this a long time and am good at it. I am a real person and answer my phone.
    2. Free member website. No hosting fees or Admin fees. No technical knowledge needed.
    3. Weekly live conference call for my team. Every Tuesday night live and then available by recording 24/7. This call results in enrollments for our members.
    4. National magazine full page ads for my members. Already written, already placed, all you do is reserve the space you want. You do not have to spend $1000's trying to advertise like the “big guys”.
    5. Postcards designed for my team. I designed one postcard more than four years ago and still use it today. You do not have to write a word, buy a mail list or find a printer. Just plug in.
    6. Private forum free for my members loaded with great ideas and personal help. No other program has anything like it.
    7. All marketing in place, tested and proven. I am do most of the marketing for you, so you do not need to learn complicated and expensive online strategies.

    If you want success you must have help from someone who is succeeding!

    No false promises.

    No internet schemes.
    Just cash to your door in days!

    We call the HAPPY TRUCK program.
    http://www.exclusive-training.com/headline-tour.jpg



    There is nothing more fun than receiving cash to your door!

    Compare my experience and personal support to everyone else ... there is no comparison!

    Nobody else cares about your success as much as I do!
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    Bill Moran

    The "system" is so easy to duplicate. There is no cold calling, no chasing friends/family, or no answering questions required to do this. All you do is invite people to the activity. I will teach you how to do that as well and also give you my personal resources. You don't need any website technical knowledge either. You'll get your very own "official" web site when you participate in this activity.
    Exclusive-training.com? Hmm. Now why did he use an image hosted on a site with an odd name like that? Looks like another member of the growing web of cash gifters.

    Registrant:
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    297 Hillcrest dr B1
    Leucadia, California 92024
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: EXCLUSIVE-TRAINING.COM
    Created on: 07-Mar-06
    Expires on: 07-Mar-12
    Last Updated on: 12-Mar-11

    Administrative Contact:
    Thomasson, Kevin kmthomasson@sbcglobal.net
    297 Hillcrest dr B1
    Leucadia, California 92024
    United States
    +1.7604667356

    Technical Contact:
    Thomasson, Kevin kmthomasson@sbcglobal.net
    297 Hillcrest dr B1
    Leucadia, California 92024
    United States
    +1.7604667356

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS41.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    NS42.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Kevin's on-site phone number of 858-205-4793 brought me to:
    http://www.overnightcashsystem.net/vid2
    http://www.the-overnight-cash-system.com
    http://www.theglobalgiftingsystem.org
    http://www.insiderwealthsolutions.com
    http://mysite.thepeoplesprogram.com/owg
    and he's the current owner of http://cash-gifting.org

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    Looks like Kevin is one of the goons who's been following Simon J. Hill (a.k.a. "$imon Johansson") since the Prosperity Automated System days, much like Gail Rahill, judging by old posts from 2006-2007.

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    I see that, since the above expose was first online, Eric Beckel has changed his contact information on The People's Program to merely:
    thepeoplesprogramcoach@gmail.com

    Great way to incriminate yourself further.

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    And some of Bill's recent spam, forwarded to me from an irate man who suspects that someone signed him up for a mailing list without asking him first, featured the following links and addresses:

    http://www.autoxten.com/superleads
    secretdollarformula@gmail.com




    NewDealer@bigwirelesscash.com
    This one signed himself "BIll Mc Cormick", another of Marler's known aliases, formerly featured at http://www.bigmoneyinmail.com/getpdf...sername=master but he has since changed the info there to "godaddyadmin@gmail.com" and attempted to FRAME the hosting site GoDaddy for running his personal postal fraud scheme. The phone number 800-479-6099 that was formerly in that document still connects Bill to his BigPostcardWealth.com site via several classified ads in online magazines from 2009 which are
    available for anyone to read.


    Lastly there was this. I've munged certain pieces of information to protect the spam recipient.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    To: <munged>
    From: teamdollarbill@gmail.com
    Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 11:32:28 -0400
    Subject: Saturday deal. all 3 programs for one / Urgent Saturday message/ gift included


    Hi <munged>, ok I am very busy today with this special, so call me at 646-801-9003 if you're serious and ready to begin.

    I work 3 of the top money makers in the industry below:

    1. Automated Money Machine
    Link: http://www.thecashsecret.net/interne...sswebinar.html Or http://www.thecashsecret.net


    2. Magnetic Cash Gifting System
    http://www.MagneticCashGiftingSystem.com

    3. Tocs Overnight Cash System
    http://www.OvernightCashSystem.com

    Please review all 3. No matter which one you like, if you're finally ready, you can have all 3 for one entry. So you can have the 3 programs at comparable levels of what you begin at.

    But that is not It! I will also bump you up 2 levels from the level you begin at and waive all 1 Up's. THIS IS FOR TODAY ONLY



    I am looking for people to work with. This is very exciting. Everything has been updated and ready to go!! We have people doing sick amounts monthly. Please change your life and begin today.

    Thanks,

    Bill
    646-801-9003

    P.s
    I will be having my own daily calls hosted my me to help you.



































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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfHenryHiggins View Post
    And some of Bill's recent spam, forwarded to me from an irate man who suspects that someone signed him up for a mailing list without asking him first, featured the following links and addresses:

    AutoXTen.com


    Hmmn, it seems birds of a feather really DO flock together.

    http://www.autoxten.com features heavily in the spam being sent out by another Realscam.com favourite Dr Goddie Ude
    The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing

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    And another spam showed up,

    "The Secrets To Home Based Business Success"
    Video #7
    from Bill Moran



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    Now, there's something fun (and sick) about that www.automatedmoneyproducts.com website he's pushing.

    Here's the WHOIS:

    Registrant:
    Richard W.
    8852 s. maryland parkway #63
    las vegas, Nevada 89123
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: AUTOMATEDMONEYPRODUCTS.COM
    Created on: 02-Aug-10
    Expires on: 02-Aug-13
    Last Updated on: 11-Jul-11

    Administrative Contact:
    W., Richard privateuse111@yahoo.com
    8852 s. maryland parkway #63
    las vegas, Nevada 89123
    United States
    +1.7025387650

    Technical Contact:
    W., Richard privateuse111@yahoo.com
    8852 s. maryland parkway #63
    las vegas, Nevada 89123
    United States
    +1.7025387650

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS1.AUTOMATEDMONEY4YOU.COM
    NS2.AUTOMATEDMONEY4YOU.COM
    That phone number also matches:
    www.perpetualprofitsprelaunch.com
    http://www.automatedmoney4you.com/me...brams/home.php
    http://secret2prosperity.us
    www.RobertVitelli.com
    www.RobAbrams.tv
    http://perpetualprofitsprogram.com/m...fault.php/?p=1

    As well as the entire Magnetic Money Miracle and Global Gifting Systems pyramid schemes. Mr. Vitelli, a.k.a. Rob Abrams, has been a thorn in the side of the IRS for quite some time with his tax protester "legal" disclaimers in a number of his funny money schemes, advising members/victims that their "gifts" are tax free. It would not help his defense to note that the username privateuse111 shows up as a shill in the comments under reviews of his movie Lessons for an Assassin, back around 2004, nor that it also shows up connected with his name on Rotten Tomatoes in a post made in 2009.

    Than, of course, there's his resume on IMDB:

    Robert Vitelli
    robert@robertvitelli.com . http://www.Vitelli.com
    AFTRA, SAG

    Performer Profile

    * Gender: Male
    * Height: 5 feet 10 in
    * Weight: 175 lbs
    * Age Range: 30 - 40
    * Physique: Athletic
    * Hair Color: Brown
    * Hair Length: Short
    * Eyes: Hazel
    * Ethnicity: Caucasian
    * Voice Type: Bass

    Representation

    * Global Talent Management, Wendy Blum, Manager
    8852 S.Maryland Parkway #63 Las Vegas, Nevada 89123 United States
    702-538-7660 privateuse111@yahoo.com


    Performer Skills

    * Performance Skills: Magic
    * Athletic Skills: Rollerblading, Aerobics, Boxing, Surfing, Martial Arts, Baseball, Swimming, Cycling, Tennis, Football, Golf
    * Accents: Midwest, Irish, British, Italian, French, German
    * Musical Instruments: Drums
    * Dance: Modern, Salsa, Club/Freestyle, Swing, Flamenco, Waltz

    And if you go back to 2008-2009, you will find William Marler, under the pseudonym Bill Maverick, pushing Rob Abrams' cash gifting non-products.

    If anyone cares to delve into Marler's connections with Big Drew of PamelaPucker.com, please do so in my stead. There is only so much I can tolerate.
    http://www.ripoffreport.com/mail-ord...ck-i-5e6e5.htm

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    Re: Bill Marler

    And some of what Bill's sister Norah (author of "No More Dating Pigs") wrote in a discussion with Frederick Munster, after he went after her brother on his connection with spamhaus wealth-distributors.info and junk faxes from magneticcashgifting.net


    On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    I don't follow what you are saying, Norah.

    I'm going after his unethical advertising methods, while Ben - Prof. Higgins - is going after those
    programs he is in which are themselves illegal. Except for the flood of Essante ads on Backpage.com,
    the spam and fax issue appears to have cleared up. Which leaves you to deal with the Prof, not
    with me.

    I might however point something out to you, Norah. You're mistaken about the law.
    In the case of cash gifting schemes, the members are doing something just as illegal
    as the organizers. And "Bill Maverick" has been promoting his since 2008. Look it
    up with Google or another search engine and see the videos still out there.


    Fred Munster


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    Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2011 11:33:42 -0400

    Subject: Re: Prof
    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com


    At this point, it doesn't matter. I am asking for your help. My brother also said that some info is incorrect about one of your huge targets that you have gone after for years. He could clear it up for you which in a way is something good.

    My brother just wants it to go away. He has a real business. It's not a front. It's hurting all of us and more family. His online stuff is very part time and mostly a hobby. You can hate the others, but although you don't care for some of the programs, I know for a fact you would like and respect my brother with how he supports and tries to help others. Also, for all you do in your cause, you hurt the wrong people. You should go after the owners of the programs, not members. members paid to begin and just join. They are not the brains or organizers. If there are issues with the programs, then take down the programs and their websites.

    I will owe you a debt of gratitude and will never forget the good deed if you can help make the ugly post disappear.

    Thank you

    On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    You still think I'm Henry Higgins?



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    Date: Tue, 31 May 2011 12:00:20 -0400

    Subject: Re: Prof
    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com


    Prof. H.

    By brother wanted you to know that he has nothing to do with Merudh Patel. He once did some website work for him and must of put that info there. My brother is trying to contact him to remove. Please cut my brother a break. He is not like you say. He used the alias to separate his home based programs from his private life. You have hurt him more than you know, because he is a respected good person. Most wouldn't care, but he is not like most, he is a legitimate business person. You have so many others, so can you please cut him a break. I will pass on to him, that you cut him slack. He hasn't released your personal info. I will make sure he get's act together as well.

    I thank you in advance.




    On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:34 PM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    You keep miustaking me for the Prof. So who is he, really, since you claim to know?

    He's not David Nazar, that's for sure. We had a laugh when J.J. Ulrich thought that he was.



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    Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 12:30:30 -0400

    Subject: Re: Prof
    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com

    Please Professor, like I would do that. You were friendly to me. Please just resolve it. I will have my bother tone down the marketing. My brother is not one of these people that will ignore when you yourself break state cyber bully laws to do what you do. BTW, my brother doesn't like half the people you dislike. And if you care to know, the only reason he keeps personal info separate from internet opportunities, is for reason like this. Safety, he has little kids. And Prof, he truly does his best effort to help. He has many person relationships with high level law enforcement and political as well.

    The funny thing is, you would actually like him I bet if you ever spoke with him. You and him could agree to disagree on some things, but he knows some of the people you name are jerks. But go after the owners, not the members.

    I hope we can stop this before it really shows an ugly head.

    Hoping.


    On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    So what's "my" name, Miss Norah?

    Bet you'll name the wrong brother and have egg on your face.



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    Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 11:50:21 -0400

    Subject: Re: Prof
    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com

    listen complains, I am not an attorney. So stating laws means nothing. Here what i do know. My brother has your real name. You hide behind many names such as Prof Henry. Which makes it sick that you can post private personal info, but then hide yourself. And stating laws will not decide who's right or wrong. A state judge will. And every single person you have ever posted the attorneys will thank your for the info. Because it is much easier to contact every single person to join in filing suits. My publishing company is looking in to it as well. Bringing be in to this has $$ damages for me and will not go ignored. And flying out the window as you put it will still be huge costly pain dealing with 100s of victims that you so kindly listed on the site for the many who would join to proceed. I suggest that you resolve this by deleting it and all will go away.


    On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    I don't understand that reply, Miss Norah. If you use the wrong term as the basis for your case, the whole lawsuit
    can fly out the window. That's not an opinion.

    You might also want to look up The Bill of Rights and what "freedom of the press" means.
    You can't sue a site for what third parties wrote on them (otherwise Google, Yahoo, et all would be
    out of business long ago), either.



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    Date: Wed, 25 May 2011 10:59:19 -0400
    Subject: Re: Prof

    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com

    PS. Isn't the term libel, not slander, when it's written?

    See that is the beauty of reality. Opinions mean nothing. The court will decide if breaking laws for your personal cause is right. Every person that has ever been posted on that site will be contacted and asked to join in the complaints. Win or loose it will be costly. Any naming relatives will just be another huge issues.




    On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 12:32 AM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Huh?

    Are you sure you emailed the right person, Norah?
    I CC'd Henry Higgins back when we talked by email, but he never spoke up
    in the conversation (at least to me).


    Fred

    PS. Isn't the term libel, not slander, when it's written?



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    Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 17:41:28 -0400
    Subject: Prof
    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com


    Dear Professor Henry,

    I just want you to know how upset I am that you went ahead and hurt my brother. It is wrong and my bother knows the real identity of Professor Henry, and many have asked him to disclose it, but be hasn't. Because he is not dangerous. You think because what your opinion is, that breaking laws yourself will be ignored? Do you know how many lawsuits you will have to defend of all the people you have "cybered bullied" Slandered, and many other laws broken. Keep in mind, that it's not ok for you to break laws to go after people no matter what the cause is.

    There would be hundreds of people that would tie you up in court that want your name. I suggest you consider another option before you have the same pain you have caused.

    Thanks

    Norah's site has this as the WHOIS currently:

    Registrant:
    Leading The Way

    1 Mariners Bend
    Brielle, New Jersey 08730
    United States

    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: NORAHMARLER.COM
    Created on: 03-Sep-10
    Expires on: 03-Sep-12
    Last Updated on: 15-Feb-11

    Administrative Contact:
    Marler, Norah norasact@optonline.net
    Leading The Way
    1 Mariners Bend
    Brielle, New Jersey 08730
    United States
    (732) 722-7202

    Technical Contact:
    Marler, Norah norasact@optonline.net
    Leading The Way
    1 Mariners Bend
    Brielle, New Jersey 08730
    United States
    (732) 722-7202

    Domain servers in listed order:
    NS67.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    NS68.DOMAINCONTROL.COM

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    Re: Bill Marler

    And if you think that I'm going after Bill's family, rather than a co-scammer, by posting Norah's conversation and website, think again.

    Some excerpts from the earlier conversation:

    On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    Beep@beep.beep isn't even a valid email address. Who thought that one up?

    And the jabbathetribble email was, in case you didn't know, submitted to Bill Moran.
    Not to Bill Marler.

    Thank you for confirming that your brother is indeed behind the faxes, spam, and tax evasion. You'll be hearing from the
    process server shortly. I've taken the opportunity to CC: this discussion to ProfHenryHiggins of scam.com.

    You might also want to remind Bill that a 1-Up business plan is an illegal pyramid according to the SEC.



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    Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 15:51:37 -0400
    Subject: Re: excuse me

    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com


    I just want you to know that now you have crossed the line. No matter why you hate my brother, harrassing me by placing my email and address in random pages is criminal.

    My brother at my request gave the IP address of the person harassing him and it matches yours. I thought you wanted to help resolve.

    71.107.147.201 is your IP and well as for the others below.

    grimtinafan@gmail.com
    beep@beep.beep
    jabbathetribble@yahoo.com


    If you want to stop and resolve let me know and I will pass it on, if not be prepared to have to answer questions also and pay for your actions. What you don't know is I actually do have a relative who is a high ranking official who can get your name and address with one call which is how I got the ip from this email address.

    let me know.


    Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:51:22 -0400

    Subject: Re: excuse me
    From: datinghelpbook@gmail.com
    To: complains_of_names@hotmail.com


    He would never give tax advice. Well, let's all learn and help, not hurt. I hope you don't hurt my family member. I am sorry you feel this way. He is talented and if you ever want to make peace, we are nice people. Keep in mind he is just a member and paid to get in also. But he get's attacked because of his seo talent.

    Don't hate to much. Have you checked out my book?


    On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Complains of Names <complains_of_names@hotmail.com> wrote:

    His ads don't match the "he doesn't buy in" claims, Norah.

    You can't say one thing and do the opposite. That's hypocrisy.
    Ask him who "Kenin Cook" and "James Stirling" are. Those are the names that his old sites
    are suddenly showing, replacing Bill Maverick and Bill Moran, respectively. Yet the postal address
    and user accounts remain the same.

    How does promoting get-rich-quick schemes help someone? Answer: it doesn't. It destroys communities and
    tears families apart.

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    I must admit to some confusion here.

    Is "Norah" now saying "cash gifting" as being done by her brother is somehow legal now ?

    Or is she saying that because brother Bill is a nice guy, he somehow gets a free pass to carry on his "hobby" unhindered ??

    Is Prof Higgins solely responsible for outing Bill Marler, or did Mr Marler do this himself in the hope nobody would notice ??

    Does ignorance of a/the law/s mean such law/s cease to exist ??

    Is none of the following valid:

    The Wrong Side of the Law

    If you want to know about the legality of cash gifting programs, you should check both Federal Trade Commission regulations and your state’s laws. Your state’s Attorney General and district attorney have the power to determine if a cash gifting program is legal, and unfortunately, many cash gifting clubs have ended up on the wrong side of the law.
    There are two model for cash gifting programs - pyramids and one-up structures. All 50 states have laws against pyramid schemes, although they are sometimes referred to as “endless chains” (California), or Ponzi schemes. These laws apply to investments as well as cash gifting programs, and avoiding the use of investment terms when soliciting new members in cash gifting clubs is not enough to avoid prosecution.
    Several states have addressed and even prosecuted cash gifting organizations.

    California


    California groups pyramid schemes (called “endless chain schemes”) in its statutes against the operation of lotteries. In the landmark cash gifting case People vs. Sanchez, the court found that not only those who start cash gifting clubs, but also those who promote them, are lottery operators under the law. This case was a result of an investigation into the gifting group Friends Helping Friends.
    In 2002 and 2003, more than twenty women belonging to the Sacramento-based cash gifting club Women Helping Women were arrested and charged under the endless chain statute. Rather than face imprisonment, all pled guilty and were sentenced to a significant amount of community service and fines, in some instances up to $150,000.
    These women pled guilty despite the fact that many of the individual cash gifting groups within the organization insisted that all their members sign both “non-solicitation” and “gifting statements” saying that they recognized Women Helping Women as a private, voluntary gifting activity and would be relinquishing all legal rights to their gifts (presumably so they couldn’t later sue to have them returned).
    The gifting statements were their declarations that they had been told not to expect any kind of return in exchange for their gifts, and that they were fully informed adults who had not been misled about anything.

    Idaho


    In 2000 Idaho Attorney General Michel Butts stated:
    Idaho law prohibits pyramid schemes, classifying them as felonies. Neither providing money to needy recipients, nor disclosing the potential risk of losing one’s money, nor ‘gifting’ the money to avoid tax consequences absolves citizens of their obligation to comply with Idaho’s Pyramid Statute. Participants and promoters should be aware that Idaho law provides for both civil and criminal penalties for conducting an illegal pyramid.
    Iowa

    Here’s what Steve St. Clair of the Iowa Attorney General’s Consumer Protection Division had to say about cash gifting programs in 2000:
    … promoters may claim that this [gifting] scheme is legal because all payments are designated “gifts,” and participants may even be asked to sign a paper stating that they are making gifts. Promoters often claim that this “gift” angle makes the scheme legal, and that the pay-outs don’t have to be reported as income at tax time. These claims are false.
    Many other false representations may be made in promoting such schemes, including the claim that pay-outs are easy and quick, and that a refund will be readily available if requested. These pyramids ultimately collapse, leaving a lot of disappointed participants scrambling to get refunds from the person who got them to participate and/or the person who received their money.
    According to St. Clair, cash gifting participants can be prosecuted in Iowa under the following states:
    1. Theft by deception (Iowa Code sections 714.1(3) & 702.9). This law makes it a crime to obtain money or property through the use of deception. The written materials used to promote gifting pyramids may make deceptive claims regarding: (a) the fact that the initial payment is a gift rather than an investment; (b) the tax status of these “gifts”; (c) the speed with which a large pay-out will be generated; and (d) the legality of the scheme itself.
    2. Securities violations (Iowa Code section 502.102 (19). Securities laws control the promotion of various types of investments. Gifting pyramids have been determined by courts in other jurisdictions to constitute “investment contracts,” a form of security under Iowa law. (See the Nebraska Supreme Court ruling in State v. Irons, below). The sale of securities in Iowa is subject to a variety of registration and licensing requirements, as well as prohibitions regarding misrepresentations under Iowa’s Blue Sky Law, Iowa Code Chapter 502. See e.g., State v. Kraklio, 560 N.W.2d 16 (Iowa 1997).
    3. Lottery (Iowa Code section 725.12). Iowa’s lottery law prohibits prize schemes where a person pays to participate and the winners are determined by a process involving a substantial element of chance. With gifting pyramids, one makes a “gift” in order to participate; one participates in order to receive the pay-out (the prize element); and whether a pay-out comes about involves a great deal of chance, since it depends on matters outside the participant’s control (the activities of strangers, and whether the pyramid has already saturated the region).
    4. Tax Evasion (Iowa Code sections 422.25(8) & 703.1). Persons who do not report any pay-outs they receive through this scheme as income on their tax returns risk being prosecuted for tax evasion, and persons who inform others that pay-outs are not counted as income risk being prosecuted for aiding and abetting tax evasion.
    Finally, in Hall v. Montgomery Ward, the Iowa Supreme Court ruled that crime victims can sue the person who committed the crime. Participants in cash gifting pyramid schemes in Iowa may be able to use this legal precedent to recover money damages from promoters.

    Kentucky


    In December 2004, Kentucky Attorney General George Stumbo announced that an ongoing investigation of a gifting program called Elite Activity revealed that it met all the elements necessary to prove an illegal pyramid, although the program’s promoters claimed that it was a legitimate gifting club under IRS tax laws.
    Elite Activity was also shut down in Mississippi, Tennessee, Arkansas, South Dakota, and in Texas, where Elite Activity’s founder, Harry Dockstader, was sentenced to two years in prison and fined $10,000.

    Nebraska


    In State v. Irons, 574 N.W.2d 144 (1998), the Nebraska Supreme Court held that promoting a cash gifting program qualified as selling investment contracts under the state’s securities laws and upheld the conviction and imprisonment of Jack G. Irons, who ran a cash gifting club called the Friends Network.
    The Court stated that:
    “the factors that define an investment contract are whether there is (1) an investment (2) in a common enterprise (3) with a reasonable expectation of profits (4) to be derived from the entrepreneurial or managerial efforts of others.”
    The Friends Network was typical of hundreds of other cash gifting clubs, with each member participant having to recruit others to join the pyramid so that he or she could progress toward the point of “reward,” at which time the pyramid would be split in two and the participant could either leave or start over at the bottom. Each member was required to bring in at least one recruit, and was pressured to bring in more.
    While the Friends Network was closed because it violated Nebraska’s securities laws, it was also violating Nebraska’s statute against pyramid schemes:
    “A chain distributor scheme also known as pyramid sales shall mean a sales device whereby a person, upon a condition that he or she make an investment, is granted a license or right to recruit for profit one or more additional persons who also are granted such license or right upon condition of making an investment and may further perpetuate the chain of persons who are granted such license or right upon such condition… “
    New York

    In Pacurib v. Villacruz, the Civil Court of New York City ruled that not only were the founders of a cash gifting pyramid program guilty of fraud; the victims and participants of such programs had the right to sue those most responsible for promoting the programs.
    Maine

    In 2002, four women participating in a cash gifting club called A Woman’s Project filed suit in federal court against the State Attorney General, Steven Rowe, to prevent him from prosecuting them. They claimed that their First and Fourteenth Amendment rights to free assertion had been violated because the Maine State Attorneys’ office had called A Woman’s Project illegal, and wanted to be given an injunction protecting them from prosecution, as well as a judgment stating that their cash gifting activities were not in violation of state laws.
    They lost on both fronts - the Federal Court ruled that the state attorneys had every right to publicly warn people against possible scams. In April of 2002, Rowe filed suit against 31 members of A Woman’s Project for operating an illegal pyramid scheme. The group fell apart as soon as the suit was announced, but the State has managed to settle with its organizers and get some of the money returned to its victims.
    Virginia

    From a letter written by William Fuller, the Danville, Virginia, City Attorney:
    The Honorable William H. Fuller III
    Commonwealth’s Attorney for the City of Danville
    August 29, 2000
    You ask for guidance regarding the meaning of the term “operates” as it is used in § 18.2-239 of the Code of Virginia, pertaining to pyramid promotional schemes. You enclose documents describing a “gifting program…”
    A “promotional scheme” is defined as “any program utilizing a pyramid or chain process by which a participant gives a valuable consideration for the opportunity to receive compensation or things of value in return for inducing other persons to become participants in the program.”
    Participants in the described “gifting program” give valuable consideration for the opportunity to receive compensation in return for inducing others to become participants in the scheme. The action of a participant in making the payment or “gift” sustains the program and induces others to make that contribution.
    Accordingly, it is my opinion that every person who participates in the “gifting program” by paying $2,000, with the expectation of advancing and ultimately receiving $16,000, is guilty of a Class 1 misdemeanor for operating a pyramid promotional scheme, in violation of § 18.2-239.
    Punishment for conviction of a Class 1 misdemeanor is “confinement in jail for not more than twelve months and a fine of not more than $2,500, either or both.”
    But what about one-up cash gifting programs?

    The operators of one-up cash gifting programs claim that they are immune to prosecution as pyramid schemes because of their structures - “receiving lines” - which never have more than one “receiver” and one” giver” in them at any given time.
    But does that that really matter, since they still require recruitment of new participants if old participants are to recoup their “gifts?” One promoter of these cash gifting programs claims that they must meet several standards:

    • They must provide statements between the giver and the receiver that the gifts are given with no expectation of any returns;
    • They must provide statements between the giver and the receiver that gifts were unsolicited and that the giver approached the receiver inquiring about the opportunity to give;
    • There should be a statement between the giver and the receiver acknowledging that the giver accepts he or she is not making an investment;
    • And there must be a clear understanding between the giver and receiver that the giver is not guaranteed any benefits for making a gift.

    But California successfully prosecuted Women Helping Women, even though many of its members had met all of these standards.
    States like Iowa have made it clear that cash gifting clubs can be prosecuted not only as pyramids, but under their tax evasion, lottery, securities, and theft by deception laws. One-up cash gifting schemes can still qualify under any of those categories.

    Federal Actions Against Cash Gifting Programs


    Further doubt was cast on the legality one one-up systems by the 2006 SEC prosecution of Prosperity Automated Systems. Although it wasn’t a cash gifting system, PAS ran afoul the SEC because its founder, William Osterhout, was found to be selling unregistered securities. But the key finding in this instance was the SEC description of the PAS marketing system:
    “The Complaint further alleges that in order to purchase a PAS membership, prospective investors submit their personal information into an existing PAS website and agree to be contacted by a PAS team leader, who then directly solicits the investor.
    Investors who choose to purchase PAS memberships receive the following: (1) their own unique replicated PAS website that automatically offers PAS memberships to additional prospective investors; and (2) the services of PAS team leaders to solicit new prospective investors. The proceeds from an investor’s first sale of a PAS membership must be paid to an earlier investor; thereafter, PAS investors retain commissions for each subsequent sale of PAS memberships to new investors…”
    This is a perfect illustration of how one-up cash gifting systems work.
    When dealing with the SEC, the bottom line is that it can label whatever it wants as an “unregistered security” and leave it up to the other party to prove otherwise. How many cash gifting operators have the money to either challenge the SEC, or protect their programs from prosecution under any number of state statutes?
    Anyone considering a cash gifting program should not listen to any advice about its legality except that of a qualified attorney, including his or her state’s attorney general, and the SEC.
    So will the IRS pursue you for cash gifting? No. Again, the IRS does not define the legality of any income source - after all, they just want to tax your income, no matter where it comes from. But be advised before joining any cash gifting program that the law is not quite as friendly as gifting promoters may like to think.
    Courtesy: Cash Gifting Watchdog.com
    Last edited by littleroundman; 08-02-2011 at 12:46 AM.
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    I don't know which Norah is saying, myself.
    I'm certainly not the only one responsible for unmasking her brother, though.

    Here's the latest spam from Bill:

    Hello <munged>,

    I'm happy to announce that we are doing another "Secret Napkin Formula" call
    this Wednesday. I'm getting this out to you in plenty of time so
    you can prepare. Last week, I had over 20 people go on call
    AFTER the call was over, so that told me I need to get these
    e-mails out sooner to give everyone time to prepare.

    Please take a second secure your spot for
    Wednesday night!

    Call In Details:

    When: Wednesdays
    Time: 6:00pm Pacific / 9pm Eastern
    Call: 1-712-432-0900
    Code: 572142

    ******************************
    -By Invitation Only-

    FREE Secret Napkin Formula Call & Webinar
    "Discover How A Simple Business Model Scribbled On The
    Back Of A Napkin Is Pulling In 5-Figures Weekly...Consistently!"

    This Requires:

    -NO List
    -NO Downline Building
    -NO Selling, Convincing or Pitching
    -NO Complicated Internet Marketing
    -NO Delayed Income...You Earn Immediately

    Title: Secret Napkin Formula Call
    Date: Wednesday, August 3, 2011
    Time: 9PM Eastern Time (New York Time)

    Before Call or after please be sure to review $50,000 to over $100,000 system
    at: http://www.automatedmoney4you.com/me...rbill/home.php

    System Requirements: Need or want for more money
    Seeking: Money Motivated Individuals
    Character: Individuals who want to help people better their lives

    Space is limited.
    Be sure to look for my e-mail right after the call. You DO NOT
    want to miss this e-mail!

    See Ya Wednesday,

    Bill
    (347) 964-3933

    For Big Ticket Individuals Who Want To Generate At Least $50,000 to Over $100,00 A Month http://www.TheCashSecret.net Internet Business. (For Serious Business People)

    For Individuals Who Want To Generate At Least $10,000 to Over $30,000 A Month
    http://www.magneticcashgifting.net/m...elp/index4.asp
    Cash Leveraging System (Non Business)
    That (347) 964-3933 phone number shows up in several online yellow pages as being 260 W 44th St New York, NY 10036 - apparently a pizza restaurant, in the reality that the rest of us live in - and connected to CashGiftingSite.com. The owner's email address was given as onlinewealthmaster@gmail.com
    Oddly, the real restaurant's WHOIS data was updated today, Aug. 2, 2011, but the phone number given in it matches numerous ads and reviews of their pizza elsewhere, so I'm not worried that the owner has joined forces with the Marlers. Rather, I would guess that the Marlers swiped the address, a common tactic among online crooks who are actually overseas but not as common for those within the same nation as the posted address.

    The CashGiftingSite.com webpage itself seems to be, at the moment, a slush jointly using secretcashfast.com, thecashsecret.com, a copyright claim from Magnetic Money Miracle, and an AWeber Form Generator that redirects the viewer to automatedmoney4you.com (account name dollarbill) once you enter your contact information into it. The aweber list it connects to appears to be named amm4you with a site id of "1673293489" if I'm reading the code aright. In my experience, AWeber is very good at removing email addresses that complain of being spammed (by banning them from ever using it or its' services), but not good at shutting down abusive listowners.

    The conference call he advertised for Wednesday night appears to be hosted by Robert Vitelli (playing his Rob Abrams character), judging by the other sites promoting it.
    http://www.free-press-release.com/ne...311217423.html
    http://archive.aweber.com/millioncashthe/2011/07

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    Re: Bill Marler

    With the touch of a button we SMS text-ed 8,000,000 people and
    received 6,978 leads and so far over One Million Dollars in Orders.
    In one day..... Anyone looking for that type of Nuclear Marketing?

    That is just one golden nugget you get when you work AMM with me.

    Join me at: <spam site hidden to avoid giving away who is leaking Bill's spam>

    Business Builder,

    Bill Moran
    646-801-9003

    <dripping sarcasm>Real nice guy, Bill.</dripping sarcasm> Wastes the money of eight million people without asking them for permission. And it is outright illegal in the United States. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_phone_spam

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    This one arrived with the subject line "Bill & Rob's secrets to $100,000 a month"

    Hi <name munged for protection>

    I wanted to thank you for looking
    at my Automated Money Machine
    System.

    If you have any questions regarding
    our program and how the AMM
    opportunity can help you and
    your family prosper, call or e-mail
    me anytime.

    Also make sure to get on our
    very informative, "Live" Webinar
    this coming Wednesday at:

    3:00pm Pacific and again at

    6:00pm Pacific. (That's 6 & 9 EST)

    Just "Click" or Copy & Paste this
    address into you Browser at the
    chosen time and you will be plugged
    right into a front row seat!

    www.secretformulawebinar3pm.com

    www.secretformulawebinar6pm.com

    You will see exactly how to be
    outrageously successful and learn
    the details about our business model
    from home business millionaire
    Robert & Bill.

    Here is the Link to the first video
    in our series "Secrets To Home
    Based Business Success".

    The Secrets to Home Based Business Success



    Sincerely,

    Bill
    Automated Money Machine

    24 Hr. Information
    646-572-8655

    DollarBillm@gmail.com

    Both of the video websites named appear to belong to Mr. Vitelli/Mr. Abrams.

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    Honestly,

    some of these guys are just so funny, they should give up their scamming ways and take up being stand up comedians.

    Take a look at Mr Marler/Morans' web site.

    The one where he calls himself "Dollar Bill"




    and



    Automated Money Machine

    The website must be hosted in Antarctica, where the sun shines 24/7 for 6 months and midnight never comes.
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    Professor Henry, your intel on William Patrick Marler is outdated. I will contact you to bring you up to speed.

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    And he's back at it.

    This was sent out on Dec. 7.
    Dear Leaders,

    Over the past week I have been researching each of you. Checking
    out your splash pages, reading your forum comments, googling you,
    and even checking up on which MLM companies you are in, and what
    your ranks achieved are. As well as determined your communication
    skills through your various emails, PM's and IM's with me. I have also
    researched if some of you may of worked with some of my partners
    in some programs, such as Scott Miller, and some other leaders like
    yourself.

    If you are reading this email right now, it is because based on the
    above.....I have selected you as one of my top 20 leaders out of
    our entire team, which is now 2,000 strong and growing by the
    minute.

    So what I did, was compose a list of the 20 of you, along with my
    personal recommendations for why I felt that you would make a great
    leader for the top of the Wealth Matrix, and as a result
    of having an "All-Star Marketing Team" on the top of the matrix, we
    would not only promote the long term and stable growth of Wealth,
    but by being positioned on top, we would enable us to fill
    the matrix to the deepest levels possible.

    It is no secret. That having people who are just "looking for
    spillover" will work also.

    While providing spillover is something that we WANT to
    do....... for you and the others

    With that said:

    Welcome To Leadership.

    Based on my recommendations you have been given a very special
    place within this company, and I trust that each of you realizes
    the magnitude of this and that no one will spread any word of this
    email to anyone else...period. If you have questions. Send them to
    me please.

    This position alone, will probably create a 6 figure income earner
    out of all of you, and as such it is extremely important that you
    follow directions and read this email......twice if you need to.

    1. You are going to PRE-assigned Early Link for a top spot within
    my team
    on levels 3,4, or 5. I have already submitted your first and last
    names to my early email along with your email addresses. What this
    means is that once you complete sign up on this thing filling down to level
    8 in the first month you will have: all of your levels
    filled through spillover alone.

    2. This is the e-mail from me saying
    "Welcome Early Email" and in this email there is a
    link for you to sign on and log in to your back office and complete
    process. (IT IS VERY IMPORTANT that you do this right away...or
    your position will get kicked from the database.)

    3. I will quote Spider Man, "With Great Power, Comes Great
    Responsibility" --- If this is even half of what I
    think it is....you WILL be a 6 figure income earner within the
    first few months, and it's more than likely that all of you are
    going to be Millionaires within the next 2 years. I am going to ask
    that you work closely with me to take care of those who are in need
    on our team.

    Three Golden Rules

    A. If there is someone on our team on level 8 who is struggling to
    feed their children and is on the verge of bankruptcy and losing
    their house? We will award them $1,000 to put into their marketing
    to help. And if they need $2,000 or $5,000 we will give it. If
    we're all making $30,000 a month...I would hope that between the 20
    of us....we can take care of our lesser fortunate teammates. (I am
    NOT implying that we are working for charity, and going to be
    giving out multiple thousands of dollars per month. This will be a
    case by case basis, that I will bring before you in an email or on
    a private forum, and we will discuss it as a council at some point.)

    "What you give away, you get to keep." -- Zig Zigler

    B. When you hit the 7 figure mark. I will be expecting that you
    will do a "Great Work" to help those in need. I don't care what you
    choose. Whether you build a church, or donate to the cancer
    society, or become a big brother, or save children in Africa.
    Whatever it is. I have been given a gift, and I have passed on this
    gift to the 20 of you. This "Great Work" is a tax write off....and
    believe me...you're going to need plenty of those. Together, we are
    going to make absolute World History with and at
    some point in time, we will incorporate. Are you ready to be
    branded world wide? Are you ready to be driven to the very top of
    your primary businesses through this opportunity?

    C. In the near future, I will be creating a forum that is private
    for our 20 leaders alone. If you want to remain anonymous to your
    fellow Leaders...that's fine. You can use nicknames if you choose.
    It is there we will come together once a week to discuss topics.
    You will be expected to show up there at least once a week.

    If you are ready to accept 1-3 and A-C, then again I say welcome.
    Your life has just changed.

    If for any reason you feel that 1-3 AND A-C are not for you. Simply
    send me an email saying that you are not interested, and I will
    have your position link delivered to another person and you can join
    as a regular member of
    the team.

    ON A FINAL NOTE: DO NOT SHARE THIS INFORMATION WITH ANYONE. WHEN
    YOU RECEIVE YOUR LINK. DO NOT SEND IT TO ANYONE UNTIL YOU GET SIGNED UP.

    Ok....with that nasty all capitals paragraph out of the way.

    Are you all ready to earn ridiculous amounts of money?

    I know that I am! =)

    Welcome to the to the Top.

    At Your Service,

    Bill
    Feel free to email me at any time.

    P.S. This message is regarding being prepared for this email:

    OK HERE IT IS!! This link will change you and your families life.
    TOP 20 leaders to be placed right next to me link:
    http://getweeklypaychecks.com/landin...user=allcredit

    Once there rush through steps 1 & 2. (I will not hold of the rest of
    the team if you delay on this)

    By the way, his MCA affiliate site is https://www.tvcmatrix.com/971782 and he's using the email account TheBillMarler@gmail.com with it.
    Looking around, I see some more sites he's been active on recently.

    https://plus.google.com/u/0/108990127651244039244/about
    http://www.youtube.com/user/TheBillMarler
    http://www.empowernetwork.com/wealth...?id=wealthyway
    http://www.facebook.com/BillMarler
    If you are in Prosper With Integrity, and do not like that your personal information has been published here, please talk to these good people: http://www.attorneygeneral.gov http://www.ic3.gov http://www.fbi.gov

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    Hi guys , I one of the victims of this guy ! Cheater come out fake so call GPS rotator promoting National Wealth centre !

    Another guy name Eric Eric Greene. This guy just trying to be new scammer tag with bill here is what I have found out from Facebook they have create few FB accounts and Page

    Bill >>> https://www.facebook.com/TheCraigslistExpert?fref=ts https://www.facebook.com/BillMarlerPage


    Eric >>> https://www.facebook.com/Eric-S-Gree...7914/timeline/ check Eric Green his main personal Facebook , trying to be " Guru " helping people but is trying to be a scammer just like bill.


    they are now into National Wealth Centre another scammy stuff using so call GPS Rotator funnel just go Facebook you can see people promoting Guaranteed Sign Ups On Autopilot - Guaranteed Profit System (GPS)


    Don't be a victim let these scammer rob you. They soon will gone after few months come back , they just changed their name , etc info and try to scam again.

    is the SAME guy which now he aggressively try to scam people join his GPSfunnel rotator to scam more just for himself , Eric his people etc

    https://www.facebook.com/BillMarlerPage

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    Bill Marlers' BillMarlerPage on Facebook



    Eric Greens' Eric-S-Greene page on Facebook
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