Thread: Is My Advertising Pays / The Advert Platform A Scam or Ponzi?

people can take pics of other people's possessions all they want. let's have some solid evidence by golly.

Originally Posted by nerd

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Here is a little something straight from the horses mouth/ass.

I am going to have to agree with whoever gerbil is talking about here. Why would a real business have to be concerned with what affiliates are saying? Surely if the authorities open up the books on MAP they wont find anything suspicious right??

I hope the gerbil doesnt stumble upon this page, otherwise he might have a heart attack. Absolutely loaded to the gunnels with dashboard screenshots. But Scamlabro Jr is a top recruiter, so Im guessing different rules apply to him

Maps Results - Google Millionaire

Getting business advice from Mark Ghobrill is like having Robert Mugabe talk about humanitarianism

Originally Posted by nerd

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Here is a little something straight from the horses mouth/ass.

I am going to have to agree with whoever gerbil is talking about here. Why would a real business have to be concerned with what affiliates are saying? Surely if the authorities open up the books on MAP they wont find anything suspicious right??

I hope the gerbil doesnt stumble upon this page, otherwise he might have a heart attack. Absolutely loaded to the gunnels with dashboard screenshots. But Scamlabro Jr is a top recruiter, so Im guessing different rules apply to him

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The serious part of me sees lofty claims as a real problem for the people making them. MAPS will be long gone by the time the roosters come home. Most will end up losing money, credibility, relationships, and time they might have been doing something honest. Worst case, as many in Zeek found http://www.zeekrewardsreceivership.c...%203.25.14.pdf legal problems. Really though, we're 18 months in and the company is just now sweating the details after millions have been illegally solicited? This thing will collapse under it's own weight long before Standards and Practices shuts down any rouge distributors.


The silly side of me says the more lofty the better.

These people are promoting a Ponzi scam breaking numerous laws, while pretending to be concerned business people. Why not ask a Three Card Monte dealer to ply his trade without shills to rope marks. Of course the claims have to be crazy, 7 Figures in 2015 clicking 10 ads per day, here's my new truck and a cardboard check. What is Mark thinking being such a scold?

Scamlabro like Mark promoted Banners Broker plus the $600,000,000 Zeek Ponzi scam claiming the SEC just didn't understand. May as well advertise if you join MAPS in the next 48 hours butterflies will **** tax free $100 bills right into your lap.

The crazier the claims, the easier to warn sensible people.

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On a related note Ghobril is a fine one to and !!!

He was a "Banners Broker Millionaire" like Jamie Waters that scurried around making all kinds of promises he never kept. We can safely put a few million in losses on his filthy scamming paws.




Here's another Gerbil gem for those with money to burn.

http://www.realscam.com/f9/numis-net...110/#post75963

Originally Posted by Whip

and I'll ask the logical question........why would it cost them anything? If it's in the theoretical sense, they've already lost far more than that.

Hmmm, why does this remind me so much of Ad Hit Profits and Charles Scoville?

Oh yeah because that's exactly the same **** he used to do on that program when I was in it too

'Amazing' how many similarities there are between all these programs no matter how different and brightly coloured the bow they use to wrap around this **** is, eh?

Simon seems to have abandoned hotels lol..he's using houses instead!

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Oh dear...we seem to have upset the Mappers!



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Originally Posted by HARRISON

Simon seems to have abandoned hotels lol..he's using houses instead!

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'BRIAN STORMING' lmao. what an ass.
poor guy doesn't even know it's coming I bet.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Oh dear...we seem to have upset the Mappers!



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and, as always......they've got it backward.

RESIDENCE is a pub lol (thanks Jenny!)...can't win'em all! Here's the email address, feel free to complain - it obviously works!

Joseph@Residence.uk.com

so what is going to happen to the other alleged 600 that were at the last one?

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Simon seems to have abandoned hotels lol..he's using houses instead!

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As someone has already said, this is a pub/hotel, and one which he has used before for his "mastermind" training. I don't think it is the same as his London meetings with (cough) 600 people in attendance.

Originally Posted by HARRISON

Oh dear...we seem to have upset the Mappers!



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Ah. Before you quote the law, you should be sure you've got the name of the Act correct.

It's Section 994 of the COMPANIES Act 2006 (not the "complaints act as our friend has it above). According to Wikepedia, this is:-

"Unfair prejudice in United Kingdom company law is a statutory form of action that may be brought by aggrieved shareholders against their company. Under the Companies Act 2006 the relevant provision is s 994, the identical successor to s 459 Companies Act 1985. Unfair prejudice actions have generated an enormous body of cases, many of which are called "Re A Company", with only a six-digit number and report citation to distinguish them. They have become a substitute for the more restrictive conditions on a "derivative action", as an exception to the rule in Foss v Harbottle.[1] Though not restricted in such a way, unfair prejudice claims are primarily brought in smaller, non public companies. "

It also says:-

"s 994 Petition by company member

(1) A member of a company may apply to the court by petition for an order under this Part on the ground—

(a) that the company’s affairs are being or have been conducted in a manner that is unfairly prejudicial to the interests of members generally or of some part of its members (including at least himself), or
(b) that an actual or proposed act or omission of the company (including an act or omission on its behalf) is or would be so prejudicial.

(2) The provisions of this Part apply to a person who is not a member of a company but to whom shares in the company have been transferred or transmitted by operation of law as they apply to a member of a company.

(3) In this section, and so far as applicable for the purposes of this section in the other provisions of this Part, "company" means—

(a) a company within the meaning of this Act, or
(b) a company that is not such a company but is a statutory water company within the meaning of the Statutory Water Companies Act 1991 (c 58).


Four main issues arise out of the interpretation of s.994. First of all, who has a right to complain against whom? Secondly, what specifically does the "company's affairs" mean in s.994(1)(a)? Thirdly, when is something "unfair" and at the same time "prejudicial"? And lastly, when it says "the interests of members", what counts as an "interest" of a "member"? The defining feature of the s.994 action is that it is completely vague. Courts were therefore capable of interpreting the provisions gradually as they felt would be fair. After hearing a case, a court may make "such order as it thinks fit" under s.996. This wide discretion means that previous case law is not as weighty in precedent, as in other areas of law, since each case will be decided on its particular facts. "


Oh, and to bring an action, you have to be a member (shareholder) of the company about which you are complaining.

So really, it looks as if a member of MAPs could bring a complaint about MAPs practices if he/she deems them to be "unfair". But then again, MAPS would probably say that all its Members are independant "business owners" and not shareholders in the business.....On balance I think they really don't want to harp on about this .

I stress that I am NOT a lawyer, by the way!

The nomad scammer Simon Stepsys <simonstepsys@btinternet.com>

"Also I have arrange for my Asset Protection Specialist to do a presentation
on how to legally 100% protect all your assets. (this information alone is worth MILLIONS) "



Asset protection/tax dodge scams are pretty big in the states, no idea what he/she might be peddling a Ponzi Protection Tax Free Trust Perhaps?




Fraud

A corporation or LLC’s owners may also be held personally liable if they are found to have committed fraud. If the owner made fraudulent representations or omissions when applying for a business loan, he or she can be held personally responsible for the resulting harm to the creditor and risk losing personal assets. Alternatively, if a corporation or LLC was created to further a fraudulent cause or business, a court can pierce the corporate veil to get to the owners as well.

When You Might Be Personally Liable for LLC or Corporate Debt | Business Bankruptcy | Nolo.com

Asset Protection Scams


Bogus lawyers jailed after targeting the elderly with asset protection scam

Asset-protection trusts 'mis-sold' | News | Age UK

Oh what a surprise......ANOTHER glitch which means the profit share is not moving.

What a blow!

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Originally Posted by Whip

'BRIAN STORMING' lmao. what an ass.
poor guy doesn't even know it's coming I bet.

Sounds like a porn star

Originally Posted by Katra

Sounds like a porn star

nooooooooo. that's Buck Naked!

Well, they are apparently still going ahead on Saturday, even though they don't have a venue yet.....

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Of course, they may have somewhere to go but don't want to reveal it for fear of certain very naughty people getting there first and alerting the hotel.

Venue to be confirmed because of capacity my ar*e! They can't find anywhere to take them at this short notice, I bet. And it would be too negative to reveal that "the haterz" had managed to persuade two hotels not to take them, now wouldn't it?



Meanwhile, Simon is going ahead with his one day training in Nantwich, at a cost of £25 per head. Bargain! He normally charges £3,000 per hour for training you know. And what is the subject of this training? Why, HOW TO GET MORE REFERRALS of course!

What else?

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If 60 people all cough up £25 to attend this event, that means he makes £1,500. I bet the venue hire even with lunch and tea/coffee during the day will be half that at the very most. So that's a very handy £750 (minimum) for the boy Simon to trouser.

Can't understand why he isn't holding it at his new massive house (remember that?). There must be space there, and Jules could easily rustle up a plate of sandwiches for the numpties. He'd be able to pocket MUCH more money then! Not like him to miss a trick, is it?

Meanwhile, more doubts and doubters are surfacing. Looks like the message is penetrating the cloud of misplaced optimism the sheer woo that normally surrounds Mappers and would be Mappers - at least sometimes.

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C'mon now, Bobby, which MAP ponzi fraudster in his / her right mind would allow himself / herself to get within 10 kilometers of a court for long enough to file charges ???



How many media outlets and law enforcement agencies could the person accused of "prejudism" arrange to have there on the day, do you think ???

Come to think of it, wouldn't the "discovery" phase of the action be an absolute riot ??

You got it in one there, Richard.

Other than the ads for other HYIPs, what is the point of advertising to a closed loop traffic exchange made up of MAP members who are only there to make money by clicking on ads???

Far be it from me to be a nasty, mean person; and while I have no wish to dampen anyone's enthusiasm BUT.....these results don't look so great to me!

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I haven't actually counted them, but I bet there's probably around 300 clicks there in 7 days. That's about 42 a day. Surely to be successful (well, in a REAL advertising business that is) you need clicks in their hundreds and thousands every day? And as the writer admits, she hasn't had a sale yet.

But most importantly of all, the people clicking on her adverts are only doing so because they have to click on 10 ads a day to be part of this scheme They have as much interest in your "product" as they do in staring at the wall. In fact, they might as well be staring at the wall. Click, wait 10 seconds, click onto next random choice. What earthly good is that?

I just don't understand why people don't get this. It's not hard after all!

Originally Posted by Whip

'BRIAN STORMING' lmao. what an ass.
poor guy doesn't even know it's coming I bet.

Perhaps Brian Storming is the name of the speaker or something?

You don't know, Whip!!!

HE'S BACK!

"TOP TIPS MAN" IS NOW GIVING OUT BUSINESS ADVICE! I'm sure we could all benefit, so take it away, Dave Hayes!

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Note he talks about your ROI - return on investment? - and I thought Mappers weren't allowed to use the "i" word?

As if you could compare piddling about clicking on 10 ads a day with running a REAL business like a Subway franchise. It's enough to make a cat laugh.

LOL, page 39 of the scammers handbook! "______________ (insert name of favorite ponzi scheme) is a business!" Uttered by all the great scammers like tricky Nicky Smirnow ad nauseum...!

Originally Posted by littleroundman

You got it in one there, Richard.

Other than the ads for other HYIPs, what is the point of advertising to a closed loop traffic exchange made up of MAP members who are only there to make money by clicking on ads???

Yes and just look at the response he got....

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I despair sometimes, honestly I do. 150,000 people clicking on 10 ads a day does NOT mean that 1.5 million people have formed your audience of ad clickers! The audience is the same 150,000 people, each clicking 10 times!

No wonder people have an easy time getting muppets to join these schemes.