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08-28-2016, 12:48 AM
#6176
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
When the SEC wants to ensure it wins against a fraudster such as Charlie Scoville, it doesn't go down to the beach and paddle in the shallows.
What it does is present its' case to a Federal judge point by point, so there's no chance of someone smooth talking their way out of the charges.
The "Howey Test" is a test created by the Supreme Court for determining whether certain transactions qualify as "investment contracts." If so, then under the Securities Act of 1933 and the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, those transactions are considered securities and therefore subject to certain disclosure and registration requirements.
Extract from the SEC complaint against Charlie Scoville and Traffic Monsoon
Sunil Patel, Sharon James and stacy532 can argue they are not "investors" till they turn blue in the face.
The Howey test says they are and the SEC has complete jurisdiction.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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08-28-2016, 03:45 AM
#6177
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Over on his FB page, our chum Sunil has removed that initial picture of a few of them waiting for the rest to turn up (titled "We are waiting here, guys") and has not posted anything at all about the day.
Perhaps he thinks it makes him look (cough) silly?
However, the good folks at the Traffic Monsoon Scam FB page have found lots of lovely pictures, so I do recommend you go over there for a good giggle!
https://www.facebook.com/TrafficMonsoonPONZI/?fref=ts
Here's just a taste:
TM 238 Aug 16.jpg
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08-28-2016, 04:56 AM
#6178
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Sunil, Sunil, Sunil......
TM 239 Aug 16.jpg
If you want to "spin" something, sonny, learn the rules:-
RULE NUMBER ONE: Don't lie.
You can stretch the truth, you can put a gloss on it, but don't break it. We can all see that you DIDN'T have a "massive turnout", you had about 40 people, if that. You DID NOT "take over Brighton", as there would have been thousands of people there who hadn't got a clue what the hell you were up to - nor would they care. And 40 people are not capable of taking over Brighton, end of.
RULE NUMBER TWO: If you do lie, then don't get caught. .
Posting piccies on FB which show how many people actually turned up is a silly move. We can all see how you were being, ahem, economical with the truth.
RULE NUMBER THREE: Always follow rules one and two.
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08-28-2016, 05:06 AM
#6179
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
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How many more times can these same people keep do the same thing and jumping to the next " BIG" thing , how do they look at themselves in the mirror and think they are a good person when all you are doing is the least amount of work possible and rinsing other people of their money, to fund your lifestyles.
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08-28-2016, 05:06 AM
#6180
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Well, Charles liked it anyway. So that's alright then.
TM 242 Aug 16.jpg
Meanwhile, it looks as if a lawyer DID turn up.....if that is what the chap in the striped shirt is:-
TM 240 Aug 16.jpg
TAKE THAT, SEC! You can't fight the wristbands and pointed fingers!
TM 241 Aug 16.jpg
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08-28-2016, 07:05 AM
#6181
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
100 people, eh, Shazza?
TM 243 Aug 16.jpg
But at least my question has been answered. It WAS a collection bucket.....with "Please give generously" written on it!
TM 244 Aug 16.jpg
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08-28-2016, 09:09 AM
#6182
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
Not many British people donate to a charity which does not display a registered charity number on the box or bucket. Has anybody an image of the bucket?
If Sunil and co claimed that TM is a registered charity in the UK or they used a fake registered charity registration number the matter should be reported to the charity commission.
The person who collects the money for a registered charity has to wear an ID badge round his or her neck and carry three A4 documents, 2 from the charitiy's trustees with picture evidence of their work and a third A4 picture of the authorisation for the person who is collecting.
If Sunil Patel is not authorised to collect for any charity then he has broken the law YET AGAIN
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08-28-2016, 10:13 AM
#6183
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Those dang haters are getting in Sunil's way....
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08-28-2016, 10:38 AM
#6184
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
I (like all the other haters) LOVED revolution day.
I havent laughed like that in a very, very long time.
"the owner seems really confident and even promises this one won't be going anywhere"
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08-28-2016, 10:46 AM
#6185
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The only "upset" people posting on social media are the victims who believed his nonsense and have been left holding the bag.
To anyone else, he's just an insignificant bit player in a much bigger drama, who's not even smart enough to keep his mouth shut when he's been caught out.
"Haterz" my a**
Scorners, definitely.
Ridiculers, for sure
But "haterz"
Nah, couldn't be bothered.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing
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08-28-2016, 11:21 AM
#6186
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Fat City, LA
I (like all the other haters) LOVED revolution day.
I havent laughed like that in a very, very long time.
I know. It's given me hours (well, several minutes at least) of innocent entertainment. Hats off to Sunil as a new comedy act!
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08-28-2016, 11:41 AM
#6187
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
he's not talking about us as all we've been is helpful by giving him info on how to get in touch with the SEC, pointing out they'll never see the banner waaaaaaaaaaaay over there, and whatnot.
Haven't lost any money to online scams.......results are typical.
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08-28-2016, 12:28 PM
#6188
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
They are not investors, but they want their money out...
https://www.facebook.com/TrafficMons...93772493998505
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08-28-2016, 01:21 PM
#6189
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
Let you do your thing Sunil. What thing? Do you mean collecting for charity without a registere charity number, a laminated ID number round your neck or an A4 letter of authority from the charity's trustees.
The Police and local authorities are very vigilant about phony charity collectors and you may have forgotten that the Revolution day event was on video cam.
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08-28-2016, 01:25 PM
#6190
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Bestbud
Exactly! It is called a "refund", and usually the company issuing one wants their product back! But this is what happens when you shop at Untitled-1.jpg
It seems like in this "industry" common sense is not all that common!
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08-28-2016, 02:37 PM
#6191
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Sunil nose best
Let me Patel ya something, "haters" have been out for years and once again they were the only ones that figured Monsoon right. Sunil have you ever heard the expression "we aren't laughing with you?"
By all means take your time finishing your current faceplanting, and get ready for more of the same with Traffic Hurricane.
Finish your verbal faceplant and assume the postion for the next scam.jpg
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08-28-2016, 03:08 PM
#6192
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
He understands that there were no guarantees of revenue sharing; but, he still wants his money back because it wasn't invested...
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08-28-2016, 04:34 PM
#6193
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
The above image I made from splicing two screen caps from the pan in the video below. It paints a clear picture of just how many Monsooners actually showed up at Brighton Beach at the designated "all-important hour" of 4pm to hold Sunil's banner and chant for Revolution Day. My most optimistic count of the souls on board is 34 (including shadows). I'm sure all the press teams that Sunil Patel contacted ended up quite comfortable with their decision to deploy their resources elsewhere Saturday afternoon.
Speaking of chanting - can anyone tell me if it is "WE ARE SCUM! WE ARE SCUM!" that these idiots are chanting beginning at 0:26?
SD
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"No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people" - H. L. Mencken
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08-28-2016, 04:48 PM
#6194
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Your new friend wants everyone to meditate.
https://www.facebook.com/10000821091...3671787249835/
Im sorry I dont know how to download a video then upload it here, if anyone does that video is well worth uploading.
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08-28-2016, 05:21 PM
#6195
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Absolutely no comment except that I want to win the seck.
SD
"No one in this world, so far as I know - and I have researched the records for years, and employed agents to help me - has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people" - H. L. Mencken
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08-28-2016, 05:54 PM
#6196
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Daveyw
The first one (around the 2.00 min mark) sounded like he recommends special medication every morning to his TM downline, he may be right
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08-28-2016, 07:00 PM
#6197
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
shipdit
Absolutely no comment except that I want to win the seck.
SD
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08-28-2016, 07:24 PM
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08-28-2016, 07:41 PM
#6199
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
Della Cate
100 people, eh, Shazza?
More like "Flop Day" than "Revolution Day".....
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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08-28-2016, 07:44 PM
#6200
Re: Traffic monsoon. Better than MAPS with trusted admin Charles Scoville
Originally Posted by
path2prosperity
Not many British people donate to a charity which does not display a registered charity number on the box or bucket. Has anybody an image of the bucket?
If Sunil and co claimed that TM is a registered charity in the UK or they used a fake registered charity registration number the matter should be reported to the
charity commission.
The person who collects the money for a registered charity has to wear an ID badge round his or her neck and carry three A4 documents, 2 from the charitiy's trustees with picture evidence of their work and a third A4 picture of the authorisation for the person who is collecting.
If Sunil Patel is not authorised to collect for any charity then he has broken the law YET AGAIN
Awesome find Judy.....I hope you and our other RS members from the UK all reported Sunil to the charity commission.....
ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ı ǝɯıʇ ʇsɐן ǝɥʇ sı sıɥʇ
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